Nous prévoyons de faire un voyage de 10 jours en Birmanie à 4 personnes du 26 Aout au 4 Septembre 2013. J'ai fait un planning mais j'aurais besoin d'informations à jour sur les transports, car j'ai l'impression que ça bouge très vite dans ce pays ...
Le planning est le suivant :
26/08 : Arrivée à Yangon à 12:00.
26/08 - 27/08 : Visite de Yangon
27/08 : Bus de nuit par le Lake Inle
28/08 - 29/08 : Lake Inle
29/08 : Bus de nuit pour Bagan
30/08 - 01/09 : Bagan
02/09 : Bus le matin pour Mandalay (arrivée dans l'après-midi)
02/09 - 04/09 : Mandalay
Vol pour Bangkok le 04/09 dans l'après-midi.
Je cherche donc des informations précises sur les trajets Yangon - Lake Inle ; Lake Inle - Bagan ; Bagan - Mandalay : horaires, tarifs, temps de trajet, ...
Si vous avez des suggestions pour améliorer ce planning, ou des idées de visites autour de Bagan et Mandalay, je suis aussi preneuse !
Une nuit au Lac Inle, 2 à Bagan, 2 à Mandalay ... C'est un rythme de sprinteur. Les bus de nuit n’ont absolument rien de reposant (entre la clim à fond, le Karaoké, les arrêts répétés vous allez finir votre voyage sur les rotules.
Si vous n’avez pas d’autre alternative que 10 jour sur place, je vous conseille d’envisager l’avion pour au moins un si ce n’est tous les trajets.
J'ai détaillé davantage mon planning qui est le suivant :
26/08 : Arrivée Yangon 12:00 - Visite de la ville. Nuit à Yangon (BeautifulLand Hotel II a l'air sympa)
27/08 : Visite de Yangon avec notamment la célèbre pagode, le palace, etc.
Départ en bus de nuit pour le Lake Inle
28/08 : Arrivée à Inle. Puis bateau sur le lac toute la journée.
Nuit à Inle : May GuestHouse ou 4 sisters
29/08 : Journée au Lake Inle : village Indein, ou vélo autour du lac
Bus de nuit pour Bagan
30/08 : Arrivée à Bagan. Puis, visite de la ville (pagode, temples, old bagan, cave). Nuit à Bagan :
May Kha Lar Guest House ou Large Golden Pot ou Shwe Na Di Guesthouse.
31/08 : Mont Popa pour la journée. Nuit à Bagan
01/09 : Départ le matin pour Mandalay (bus ou taxi). Visite de Mandalay (palace, pagode, monastère, market). Nuit à Mandalay :Peacock Lodge
02/09 : Journée à Amarapura, Sagaing et Inwa. J'ai vu qu'il était possible de partir très tôt le matin, en Blue Car, pour voir le lever du soleil sur U Bein's Bridge. Nuit à Mandalay
03/09 : Mingun ou Pyin Oo Lwin (lequel des deux me conseillez-vous?). Nuit à Mandalay
04/09 : Départ pour Bangkok.
On ne réserve rien, sauf le premier logement à Yangon, vu la saison, je pense qu'on aura pas de soucis pour trouver !
J'ai bien conscience que ça va vite, mais 10 jours, c'est court finalement ! On se dit que deux bus de nuits, ça va le faire, et tant pis si on est fatigué à la fin, on se reposera après !
J'aimerais juste avoir des infos précises sur les bus, horaires, temps de trajet en particulier (j'ai vu des 14h, 16h de trajet mais c'était il y a déjà quelques années donc je voudrais savoir si ça c'est amélioré à ce niveau là !).
Désolé de vous décourager, mais votre programme en à peine 10 jours est bien trop ambitieux et va vous faire passer à côté de tas de choses.
En si peu de temps, il faut se concentrer sur trois destinations : Yangon, le lac Inle et Bagan et pourquoi pas Mandalay si vous quittez le pays par son aéroport.
Ne comptez pas visiter en plus Pyi U Lwin, ou le mont Popa (d'un intérêt limité et qui ne vaut pas de sacrifier une journée).
Le bus de nuit entre Yangon et le lac Inle de nuit n'est pas si simple. Il faut prendre un bus en fin de journée de Yangon pour Taungyi. Le bus vous déposera avant à Shwenyaung et de là il y aura encore un peu de route pour rejoindre le lac, au beau milieu de la nuit en plus. Avant d'arriver à Nyaungshwe au bord du lac.
De Nyaungshwe à Bagan, il y a un bus à 18 heures qui arrive à Bagan à 3 h 30 ou 4 heures du matin.
Enfin Bagan-Mandalay, il y a un bus à 21 h 30 qui arrive très tôt le matin à Mandalay, vers 5 heures.
Evidemment, tout cela est à vérifier sur place. Certains billets sont à acheter à l'avance, certains hôtels se réservent aussi quelques jours avant car fin août-début septembre, ce n'est pas comme il y a 5-6 ans, désormais c'est une saison qui commence à être prisée aussi.
Si vous voulez en savoir plus, vous pouvez toujours jeter un oeil ici
Sans compter le problème majeur des transports au Myanmar, s'ils partent globalement à l'heure, on se sait jamais à quelle heure ils vont arriver.
Autre chose, le Myanmar n'est pas la Thailande. Vouloir le survoler en 10 jours c'est comme disais Kristof, vous faire passer à côté de plein de chose et surtout voyager à un rythme totalement décallé par rapport au pays lui même.
Bonjour,
déjà Rangoon lac Inlé/
bus fatiguant, arrivée très tôt ds le froid au petit matin loin de tt
prendre transport pour le lac puis chercher un bateau, visiter au pas de course.....le reste du voyage me semble bâti sur le m^me topo.
En Birmanie les distances sont longues , les cars bruyants, peu de place pour dormir, .On arrive tjrs au petit matin?les horaires sont relativement respectée.En fait sans se donner un tps de repos de tps en tps je pense qu'on ne profite pas du voyage..manque de sommeil etc...Il faut aussi se donner un tps pour trouver un hôtel.Aussi la nuit tombe vite et tt marche au ralenti.
Peut être plus de tps à un endroit au prix d'en supprimer un autre.Il y a des gens qui en 10j priviligient 3à4j en bateau sur le fleuve qui passe à Bagan et traverse la Birmanie, Ils visite Bagan, ( je n'ai plus le nom en tête.) et vont au lac Inlé.
A mon avis en 10j on peut supprimer Mandalay...Ce n'est que mon humble avis.
Bon voyage
Vous êtes habitué à toujours voyager aussi vite ou pas ? J'ignore vos expériences passées mais je suis assez d'accord avec les autres opinions exprimées ici. En 10 jours Yangon, le lac Inle et Bagan, c'est déjà pas mal. Évidemment, il y a plein d'autres choses à voir mais ces 3 là sortent vraiment du lot. À vouloir tout voir, on finit par ne pas voir grand-chose en fait.
Un petit article sur Bagan sur mon blog : http://onechai.fr/2013/07/la-plaine-de-bagan-et-ses-2000-pagodes/
Je pense qu'on va revoir notre planning du coup ... Comme vous le conseillez, on va sans doute supprimer une journée à Mandalay, mais on pense maintenir la journée à Amarapura, Sagaing et Inwa, ça a l'air de vraiment valoir le coup. Donc ça veut dire partir le 02/09 au matin ou dans la journée pour Mandalay (en taxi), au lieu du 01/09 initialement prévu. Ca nous libère donc une journée à Bagan ou Inle.
On va réfléchir à tout ça, on a encore un peu de temps !
Savez-vous en combien de temps on peut faire Bagan - Mandalay si on loue un taxi ?
Au risque de me répéter, l'option vols domestiques est-elle envisageable? Car entre vos bus de nuit, encore une fois PAS REPOSANT, ceux de jours qui vont vous faire perdre une journée de visite, votre programme est beaucoup trop chargé. Pas infaisable si l'on envisage les vols domestiques.
Je pense que vous sous-estimez largement l'aspect éprouvant des voyages en bus au Myanmar. Comme signifié plus haut, c'est une arrivée la plupart du temps entre 4Am et 6AM. Allez grimper des temples à Bagan aprés ce genre de voyage. Sans compter le décalage horaire, vous vous reposerez bien avant d'être rentré, contraint par votre programme.
Sinon le Red Bull est en vente au Myanmar, mais je doute que cela soit suffisant.
Je n'arrive pas à trouver d'informations sur les vols domestiques... Sur les sites Air Bagan, ou Air Mandalay, je ne trouve pas de vols Heho - Bagan (Nyaung U) fin août notamment.
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Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning
March 24: Phnom Penh
March 25: Phnom Penh
March 26: Depart for Kampot
March 27: Kampot
March 28: Depart for Battambang
March 29: Battambang
March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap
March 31: Siem Reap
April 1: Siem Reap
April 2: Siem Reap
April 3: Siem Reap
April 4: Siem Reap
April 5: Departure
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta.
21/09: Borobudur
22/09: Prambanan
23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang)
24/09: Bromo
25/09: Kawa Ijen
26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran
27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran
28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk
29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk
01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud
02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud
04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo
05/10: Komodo cruise
06/10: Komodo cruise
07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo.
08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar
09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore
10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing
July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao
August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide
August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena
August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands
August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts)
August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk
August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar
August 17: Rammang Rammang
August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
