Voyage en Algérie avec un enfant portant le nom du père?
by Licornette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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je voudrais savoir si l' autorisation paternelle est indispensable, car le père de ma fille (elle porte son nom sur le passeport mais les deux noms en "nom d'usage" sur sa carte d'identité) ne me signera pas ce papier ???
je l'élève seule depuis huit ans mais il n'y a pas eu de jugement !
😕
et quelles sont les papiers à fournir à l'habitant pour avoir un certificat d'hebergement chez lui ?
urgent ! merci ! départ le 11 avril
je crois que je suis cuite ... et que ce voyage tombe à l'eau !
c'est bête j'ai déjà acheté les billets, les boules ..............🤪
"le fou erre , le sage voyage "
salut,
Pour établir le certificat d'hébergement, il faut tes nom, adresse et n° de passeport.. j'espère que ça va aller pour toi, sinon si t'es à la bourre essaye de le faire via un hotel avec échange de fax et Cie, De quel origine es tu ? moi une fois j'ai fais le visa pour un passeport français sans certificat d'hébergement, juste avec une carte consulaire périmée !
pour l'autorisation paternelle, je sais pas si elle est obligatoire avec un passeport Français !
Pour établir le certificat d'hébergement, il faut tes nom, adresse et n° de passeport.. j'espère que ça va aller pour toi, sinon si t'es à la bourre essaye de le faire via un hotel avec échange de fax et Cie, De quel origine es tu ? moi une fois j'ai fais le visa pour un passeport français sans certificat d'hébergement, juste avec une carte consulaire périmée !
pour l'autorisation paternelle, je sais pas si elle est obligatoire avec un passeport Français !
regarde ici : http://www.algerie-consulat-general-75.org/circ_enf_min.html
mais si vous voyagez avec des passeports français vous n'etes pas concernés .... je te souhaite un bon séjour !
mais si vous voyagez avec des passeports français vous n'etes pas concernés .... je te souhaite un bon séjour !
à lire : site de amba -france :
Entrée / Séjour HAUT DE PAGE
Passeport en cours de validité et visa.
Assurance-voyage
A compter du 1er septembre 2004, les demandeurs de visa de court séjour devront prouver à l’appui de leur demande de visa qu’ils sont titulaires d’une assurance-voyage couvrant les frais de rapatriement pour raisons médicales et de soins médicaux et hospitaliers d’urgence.
Conditions d’entrée et de sortie du territoire algérien pour les mineurs
L’âge légal de la majorité est de 19 ans en Algérie. Les mineurs français d’origine algérienne, non accompagnés de leur père, doivent impérativement être munis d’une autorisation paternelle de sortie du territoire algérien pour assurer leur retour en France.
Cette autorisation est établie à la demande du père et en sa présence :
en France, par les autorités consulaires algériennes
et, en Algérie, par les commissaires de police ou les présidents des assemblées populaires communales.
Il est important de faire la distinction entre droit de garde en droit français et puissance paternelle en droit algérien : quand bien même investie du droit de garde de l’enfant par un jugement français ou algérien, une mère divorcée ne peut autoriser son enfant à voyager, donc à quitter le territoire algérien, si le père est vivant. En principe, cette formalité n’est plus imposée aux enfants résidant à l’étranger et porteurs de passeports étrangers visés par les consuls algériens.
Depuis plusieurs années, de nombreux Français possédant concurremment la nationalité algérienne, porteurs d’un passeport français revêtu d’un visa algérien ou d’un passeport algérien délivré par une autorité consulaire algérienne en France, sont, au moment de quitter l’Algérie, retenus dans ce pays s’ils ne sont pas en mesure d’apporter la preuve de la régularité de leur situation militaire.
Il est, de ce fait, vivement conseillé à tout Français susceptible de posséder également la nationalité algérienne, de se munir de documents justifiant de sa position militaire à l’égard de l’un ou l’autre pays.
Pour de plus amples informations, adressez-vous à l’Ambassade de l’Algérie, adresses des missions étrangères en France (sur le site de la Maison des Français de l’étranger).
en France, par les autorités consulaires algériennes
et, en Algérie, par les commissaires de police ou les présidents des assemblées populaires communales.
Il est important de faire la distinction entre droit de garde en droit français et puissance paternelle en droit algérien : quand bien même investie du droit de garde de l’enfant par un jugement français ou algérien, une mère divorcée ne peut autoriser son enfant à voyager, donc à quitter le territoire algérien, si le père est vivant. En principe, cette formalité n’est plus imposée aux enfants résidant à l’étranger et porteurs de passeports étrangers visés par les consuls algériens.
Depuis plusieurs années, de nombreux Français possédant concurremment la nationalité algérienne, porteurs d’un passeport français revêtu d’un visa algérien ou d’un passeport algérien délivré par une autorité consulaire algérienne en France, sont, au moment de quitter l’Algérie, retenus dans ce pays s’ils ne sont pas en mesure d’apporter la preuve de la régularité de leur situation militaire.
Il est, de ce fait, vivement conseillé à tout Français susceptible de posséder également la nationalité algérienne, de se munir de documents justifiant de sa position militaire à l’égard de l’un ou l’autre pays.
Pour de plus amples informations, adressez-vous à l’Ambassade de l’Algérie, adresses des missions étrangères en France (sur le site de la Maison des Français de l’étranger).je suis d'origine syrienne paternelle et allemande maternelle, de nationalité francaise, ....
et je reprends espoir de pouvoir aller en kabylie avec ma fille ... j'appelle le consulat ... merci à tous ceux et celles qui m'ont répondu si vite ! 😮
donc si tout va bien Kabylie en avril ? et récit de voyage sur VF.
"le fou erre , le sage voyage "
Je réponds à ta question
si tu as le passeport et la carte d'identité française, tu n'as pas besoin d'autorisation paternelle par contre il te faut obligatoirement un visa algérien
Si tu as le passeport et la carte d'identité algérienne, il te faut obligatoirement une autorisation paternelle sinon ton enfant restera bloqué à la frontière algérienne, par contre tu n'auras pas besoin de visa
j'espère que j'ai été assez claire
a bientôt
si tu as le passeport et la carte d'identité française, tu n'as pas besoin d'autorisation paternelle par contre il te faut obligatoirement un visa algérien
Si tu as le passeport et la carte d'identité algérienne, il te faut obligatoirement une autorisation paternelle sinon ton enfant restera bloqué à la frontière algérienne, par contre tu n'auras pas besoin de visa
j'espère que j'ai été assez claire
a bientôt
Des éclairs ornent ses chevilles, elle a des nuages pour voile
Elle est venue pour parer la terre qui va se marier
Vaalia, Nitya, c'est ok côté papiers ou presque ... disons que je suis en attente d'un certif d'hebergem chez l'habitant à alger
mais mon plan n'est pas sûr 😊....!!!!!
en dernier recours je prends une chambre à albert 1
ce n'est pas un soucis
et puis je vais sur bejaia, oran peut être,
SDLV
😉🙂🙂 merci à vous !
si quelqu'un veut m'accompagner dans les trajets, faire un bout de route peut être jusqu'à Ghardaia .....
"le fou erre , le sage voyage "
Le truc c'est que pour sortir du territoire fraçais, on ne te demande pas d'autorisation, donc tu peux partir mais pas tranquille.
c'est au retour qu'on t'empechera de quitter l'algerie si tu n'as pas d'autorisation.
il y a deux solutions qui s'offrent à toi:
1) tu part et ensuite tu contacte le pere de là bas et tu lui explique que tu as besoin d'une autorisation pour que sa fille le revoit un jour.
2) tu fais tes bagages et tu resigne à rester là bas suf que l'algerie ne te laissra pas revenir avans les 19ans de ta fille (l'age de la majorité).
je serias toi, je choisirais la premiere solution qui arrangera tout le monde.
j'espere que ça va bien se passer pour vous deux.
cordialement,
Une oranaise mais loin d'Oran
il y a deux solutions qui s'offrent à toi:
1) tu part et ensuite tu contacte le pere de là bas et tu lui explique que tu as besoin d'une autorisation pour que sa fille le revoit un jour.
2) tu fais tes bagages et tu resigne à rester là bas suf que l'algerie ne te laissra pas revenir avans les 19ans de ta fille (l'age de la majorité).
je serias toi, je choisirais la premiere solution qui arrangera tout le monde.
j'espere que ça va bien se passer pour vous deux.
cordialement,
Une oranaise mais loin d'Oran
Algérie mon amour
Algérie pour toujours
Jazaîr enti hobby
dima sakna fi kaalbi
ca alors .... tu as réussi à me faire douter trop longtemps,
🏴☠️
donc pour les voyageuses avec enfants :
pas besoin d'autorisation paternelle ni à l'entrée ni à la sortie
pourvu que les deux parents soient français .
Babaie
A part ca qui va à Ghardaia et Timimoun mi avril ? Covoiturage ?
A part ca qui va à Ghardaia et Timimoun mi avril ? Covoiturage ?
"le fou erre , le sage voyage "
JE N'ai pas dis que tu n'as pas besoin d'autorisation paternelle.
le truc c'est que tu peux rentrer en algerie avec ta fille mais pout revenir en france, ils vont te demander l'autorisation;
JE SERAIS TOI, je part et des que tu arrive en algerie, tu contacte ton ex mari et tu lui explique que si il ne t'envoie pad d'autorisation, ta fille reste bloquée en algerie.
je pense qu'il se bougera l'arriere train s'il veut revoir sa fille.
PS: il doit faire l'autorisation au consulat ou si tu es française et lui aussi à la mairie je crois
le truc c'est que tu peux rentrer en algerie avec ta fille mais pout revenir en france, ils vont te demander l'autorisation;
JE SERAIS TOI, je part et des que tu arrive en algerie, tu contacte ton ex mari et tu lui explique que si il ne t'envoie pad d'autorisation, ta fille reste bloquée en algerie.
je pense qu'il se bougera l'arriere train s'il veut revoir sa fille.
PS: il doit faire l'autorisation au consulat ou si tu es française et lui aussi à la mairie je crois
Algérie mon amour
Algérie pour toujours
Jazaîr enti hobby
dima sakna fi kaalbi
en partant de france c rare qd c la mere qui voyage avec son enfant qu'on te demande la sortie de territoire mais par contre pr revenir d'algerie avec un enfant et qui porte le nom de son pere tu te lance dans la galere moi a ta place j'eviterais d'y aller sans l'autorisation parentale desolée j'espere que c que partie remise pr ton voyage.
je ne partage pas ton point de vue je suis française et on m'as demandé la sortie de territoire sinon l'enfnat ne bouge pas du sol algerien sans son pere qui est pourtant français vivant en france
Tu as eu affaire à un policier qui faisait un exces de zèle 😉
Les deux étant françaisje ne vois pas pourquoi on te demande l'autorisation de sortie du territoire à moins que ton enfant n'avait pas son propre passeport.
Curieux cette affaire !
"Si tu tues le coq au village, et la perdrix dans la forêt,
qui est-ce qui t'indiquera le lever du jour ?
fallait specifié que l'enfant devait avoir son propre passeport ça personne ne le dit ni au consulat ni a la douane donc c un complement d'information qui peut me servir et servir aux autres merci😉
Salut à tous
de retour d'algérie
avec ma fille de 9 ans, qui avait son propre passeport (francaises toutes les deux ) aucun problème ! autorisation paternelle ni écrite ni demandée !
Arrivées le 11 avril, ville d'alger déserte (normal à 1 h du matin ?)
Acceuillies à l'aéroport par des forumistes que je tiens à remercier et qui sont devenus des amis Quant au pays, il n'offre pas le confort d'ici évidemment .....!!! mais il faut juste le savoir ...cela ne me posa pas de problème!
"le fou erre , le sage voyage "
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My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel




