Voyage aux États-Unis avec un visa d'Afghanistan
by Guirun
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je pars ds 15j aux états-unis. Je suis inquiet (ma femme surtout), car je suis partis en Afghanistan 15j il y a 3 ans pour une mission hospitalière. Vais je être inquété au passage de la douaneaméricaine? Dois je changer mon passeport?
Ben tu sais, les militaires US reviennent aussi d'Afghanistan 😎 et on les laisse rentrer.
J'adore toujours les gens qui se demandent s'il faut refaire son passeport 15 jours avant de partir 😮
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Il y a quelques sujets autour de cette problématique et toutes les expériences disent que ça ne pose pas de problème. Je suis entré aussi aux USA avec des visas de pays "inquiétants" et ça c'est bien passé. Simplement ne pas jouer avec le douanier/émigration et s'ils te posent la question sur ce que tu faisais là-bas, leur répondre simplement et sincèrement.
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J'adore toujours les gens qui se demandent s'il faut refaire son passeport 15 jours avant de partir 😮
Ouf!.......ça fait bcp de monde à adorer😛
Ouf!.......ça fait bcp de monde à adorer😛
On met longtemps à devenir jeune...
aucun problème ! De toute façon, vu la file d'attente, il ne faut pas croire que l'agent d'immigration s'amuse à regarder les tampons sur les passeports 😉
Ton nom sera passée dans la moulinette de leur ordinateur depuis longtemps, puisque la compagnie aérienne doit donner les noms des passagers. Et le passage à la douane c'est juste pour le folklore 😉
il ne faut pas croire que l'agent d'immigration s'amuse à regarder les tampons sur les passeports
Détrompe toi 🤪 Il faut savoir que dans tous les pays un peu "à risque", il faut un visa. Donc, à l'émigration US, ils ne regardent peut-être pas les tampons, mais ils regardent au moins les visas. Petite anecdote perso (déjà narrée sur ce forum sur un sujet similaire, désolé pour celles et ceux qui la connaissent!) : Je passe à la douane US avec un visa Libyen sur mon passeport. Le visa est uniquement en arabe. L'agent d'émigration me demande : "qu'êtes-vous allé faire en Libye" ... Donc attention à ce que tu écris : OUI, ils regardent, et OUI aussi ils savent faire la part des choses. Mais à une seule condition, me semble t'il : être transparent et dire simplement pourquoi on est allé dans ce pays là. Et si la raison n'est pas répréhensible : pas de soucis 😎
Détrompe toi 🤪 Il faut savoir que dans tous les pays un peu "à risque", il faut un visa. Donc, à l'émigration US, ils ne regardent peut-être pas les tampons, mais ils regardent au moins les visas. Petite anecdote perso (déjà narrée sur ce forum sur un sujet similaire, désolé pour celles et ceux qui la connaissent!) : Je passe à la douane US avec un visa Libyen sur mon passeport. Le visa est uniquement en arabe. L'agent d'émigration me demande : "qu'êtes-vous allé faire en Libye" ... Donc attention à ce que tu écris : OUI, ils regardent, et OUI aussi ils savent faire la part des choses. Mais à une seule condition, me semble t'il : être transparent et dire simplement pourquoi on est allé dans ce pays là. Et si la raison n'est pas répréhensible : pas de soucis 😎
Si la douane US n'est que du folklore alors on pourrait dire que l'on est allé acheter des armes ..non ..
Ok je sors -->
Ok je sors -->
J'ai eu droit à la même question pour un visa égyptien, non pas à la douane à l'arrivée aux USA, mais de la part de l'agent qui contrôle à l'embarquement pour le vol Europe-USA et il n'avait pas l'air d'avoir envie d'échanger des plaisanteries sur le sujet.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
Détrompe toi 🤪 Il faut savoir que dans tous les pays un peu "à risque", il faut un visa. Donc, à l'émigration US, ils ne regardent peut-être pas les tampons, mais ils regardent au moins les visas.
Je peux moi aussi te raconter mes passages à l'immigration américaine... J'ai visa sur visa et un très grand nombre de tampons et visa du moyen-orient, donc la Lybie aussi 😉 Vu que le passeport est presque complètement rempli, je réaffirme que non le type ne s'amuse pas à regarder les tampons.
Je crois aussi que vous avez une vision très datée de l'immigration. Aujourd'hui, les passeport sont électroniques voire biométriques et, pour les vols vers les USA, les compagnies aériennes ont OBLIGATION de faire parvenir la liste des passagers avant le départ de l'avion, avec tous les éléments d'identité. Tout cela est moulinée informatiquement et c'est comme cela que se fait le ciblage et les arrestations. Croire que c'est juste pour 4 tampons et un visa libyen, oui c'est du folklore. C'est plus du tout comme cela que se passe les passages de frontières. Demandez à la PAF en passant à Roissy quand vous irez faire votre Parafe 😉
Je peux moi aussi te raconter mes passages à l'immigration américaine... J'ai visa sur visa et un très grand nombre de tampons et visa du moyen-orient, donc la Lybie aussi 😉 Vu que le passeport est presque complètement rempli, je réaffirme que non le type ne s'amuse pas à regarder les tampons.
Je crois aussi que vous avez une vision très datée de l'immigration. Aujourd'hui, les passeport sont électroniques voire biométriques et, pour les vols vers les USA, les compagnies aériennes ont OBLIGATION de faire parvenir la liste des passagers avant le départ de l'avion, avec tous les éléments d'identité. Tout cela est moulinée informatiquement et c'est comme cela que se fait le ciblage et les arrestations. Croire que c'est juste pour 4 tampons et un visa libyen, oui c'est du folklore. C'est plus du tout comme cela que se passe les passages de frontières. Demandez à la PAF en passant à Roissy quand vous irez faire votre Parafe 😉
Septembre 2012 ... 🤪
😏 datée au sens littéraire 😛
qui peut croire que l'immigration américaine découvre les passagers au moment où ils arrivent à l'aéroport et attend fébrilement de voir les passeports et les visas pour savoir s'il y a quelqu'un "d'intéressant" dans l'avion 🤪 L'informatique et les transferts de liste de passagers jouent un rôle prépondérant.
😏 datée au sens littéraire 😛
qui peut croire que l'immigration américaine découvre les passagers au moment où ils arrivent à l'aéroport et attend fébrilement de voir les passeports et les visas pour savoir s'il y a quelqu'un "d'intéressant" dans l'avion 🤪 L'informatique et les transferts de liste de passagers jouent un rôle prépondérant.
Ce que je voulais dire, et ce sera ma dernière intervention sur ce post :
- Oui, il y a des probabilités que guirun (qui doit bien se demander ce qu'il a fait pour que ce sujet fasse réagir à ce point!) soit questionné sur ce sujet,
- Non, il n'a pas à s'inquiéter s'il répond sincèrement.
Je ne suis pas sûr que les compagnies aériennes et les autorités américaines disposent des informations complètes sur chaque passager, ses voyages précédents, ses visas, etc ... pour faire un tri en amont des personnes qu'ils vont particulièrement questionner lors du passage à l'immigration. Comment le pourraient-elles ? Je crois que c'est la notion de "folklore" que tu évoques qui fait réagir ... Essaye de répondre "Oui" à une des questions de l'ESTA, ou essaye de dire à l'officier/cière d'immigration que ça ne le/la regarde pas ce que tu étais allé faire dans tel ou tel pays jugé sensible par eux. Tu verras alors si c'est du folklore 😛
Cordialement
Je ne suis pas sûr que les compagnies aériennes et les autorités américaines disposent des informations complètes sur chaque passager, ses voyages précédents, ses visas, etc ... pour faire un tri en amont des personnes qu'ils vont particulièrement questionner lors du passage à l'immigration. Comment le pourraient-elles ? Je crois que c'est la notion de "folklore" que tu évoques qui fait réagir ... Essaye de répondre "Oui" à une des questions de l'ESTA, ou essaye de dire à l'officier/cière d'immigration que ça ne le/la regarde pas ce que tu étais allé faire dans tel ou tel pays jugé sensible par eux. Tu verras alors si c'est du folklore 😛
Cordialement
Bonjour, je ne rentre pas dans les différentes polémiques au sujet de la "vigilance" des agents US, juste que je fais part de ma propre expérience. J'avais - perdu dans une foule d'autres visas, sur un passeport presque totalement rempli - un visa soudanais. Dès Bruxelles, avant même les formalités d'embarquement, j'ai subi un véritable interrogatoire au sujet du Soudan, sur ce que j'y avais fait, où j'avais logé, si j'y connaissais quelqu'un etc. Ce fut aimable mais sérieux. J'ai répondu la vérité (tourisme) et je suis passée sans encombre. On m'a questionnée à nouveau à chaque contrôle de passeport. Je confirme ce qui est dit plus haut: il suffit de répondre poliment la vérité (plaisanter ne semble pas une bonne idée), et si vous avez fait du tourisme (d'accord, pas très plausible pour l'Afghanistan...) ou de l'humanitaire, je suppose qu'il n' y aura aucun problème. De toute façon, l'agent de l'immigration n'oubliera pas de vous poser quelques questions, même si vous n'avez jamais été en Afghanistan. Amicalement.
virginie
J'avais cité l'exemple du visa libyen, mais idem pour le visa soudanais (2 ans d'expat et de nombreuses missions annexes).
Ce qui m'avait tout spécifiquement surpris pour le visa libyen, c'est qu'il était exclusivement en arabe alors que généralement, sur les visas, il y a une partie langue du pays et une partie Anglais. Donc, dans cet exemple précis, à part lire l'arabe ou connaitre ce type de visa, il n'y a pas moyen de savoir. Et il l'a su. C'est en cela que je dis qu'ils sont vigilants.
Mais, bon ... J'avais promis de ne plus intervenir, mais ça fait trop plaisir 😏
J'avais promis de ne plus intervenir, mais ça fait trop plaisir 😏
Des promesses, des promesses... 😏 😏 😏
D'ailleurs, je précise que ce ne sont pas les compagnies aériennes qui font le boulot de la police mais bien la police elle-même 😉 Mais je n'en dis pas plus car tu as promis de ne plus intervenir et je ne voudrais pas, qu'en plus, tu me dises que je t'empêche de tenir tes promesses... folkloriques 😏
Des promesses, des promesses... 😏 😏 😏
D'ailleurs, je précise que ce ne sont pas les compagnies aériennes qui font le boulot de la police mais bien la police elle-même 😉 Mais je n'en dis pas plus car tu as promis de ne plus intervenir et je ne voudrais pas, qu'en plus, tu me dises que je t'empêche de tenir tes promesses... folkloriques 😏
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.





