Voyage au Portugal
by Mariec911
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour, ma mère et moi allons au Portugal en septembre pour 10 jours et nous aimerions savoir si vous avez des coups coeur à nous suggérer... Nous aimerions aussi visiter un vignoble et se promener dans les villes... Aussi auriez-vous une suggestion d'itinéraire à suivre, bien sur nous passerons pas à cote de Lisbonne ... Merci beaucoup!! ;)
Ma femme et moi revenons tout juste d'un séjour de deux semaines à Lisbonne. Si vous voulez des liens intéressants, je peux vous les faire parvenir, ou encore si vous voulez plus d, infos à propos de Lisbonne🙂
André
Bon, j'imagine que vous allez atterrir à Lisbonne, ou à Porto. Si vous arrivez à Lisbonne, en provenance de Montréal, vous n, aurez pas besoin de voiture, pour visiter la ville et la région. Le réseau de transport est efficace, pour vous déplacer.
Pour effectuer votre visite des autres régions du Portugal, je vais laisser à d'autres, le soin de vous répondre, car je risquerais de parler à travers mon chapeau.🙂
André
Bonjour,
Pour voir un peu notre parcours à Lisbonne, des centaines de photos et infos pratiques, vous pouvez aller voir mon blog (lien en signature). Aux alentours vous avez Cascais et Estoril, Sintra, et le palais royal de Queluz. Les transports sont suffisants pour visiter Lisbonne et les alentours !
Nous avons aussi été à Porto et alentours, nous avons tout aimé, mais cela dépend du temps dont vous disposez !
Pour voir un peu notre parcours à Lisbonne, des centaines de photos et infos pratiques, vous pouvez aller voir mon blog (lien en signature). Aux alentours vous avez Cascais et Estoril, Sintra, et le palais royal de Queluz. Les transports sont suffisants pour visiter Lisbonne et les alentours !
Nous avons aussi été à Porto et alentours, nous avons tout aimé, mais cela dépend du temps dont vous disposez !
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
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Bonjour Marie Claude,
En 10 jours vous pouvez largement visiter Porto, la vallée du Douro et ses vignobles, et Lisbonne. Entre les 2 villes, le train (cp.pt) ou l'avion (parfois tarif très intéressants de Ryanair). 3 jours pour Porto, une journée dans la vallée du douro si vous êtes intéressés par les vignobles, et le reste à Lisbonne + Sintra.
N'hésitez pas si vous avez d'autres questions plus précises
Cécilia
En 10 jours vous pouvez largement visiter Porto, la vallée du Douro et ses vignobles, et Lisbonne. Entre les 2 villes, le train (cp.pt) ou l'avion (parfois tarif très intéressants de Ryanair). 3 jours pour Porto, une journée dans la vallée du douro si vous êtes intéressés par les vignobles, et le reste à Lisbonne + Sintra.
N'hésitez pas si vous avez d'autres questions plus précises
Cécilia
Très bonne connaissance du Portugal
Voyages effectués: Tromso, Londres, Italie, Prague, Budapest, Vienne, Suisse, Istanbul, Croatie; Brésil (4 mois) ; Punta Cana ; NYCx2 ; Algérie ; Cuba; Martinique
https://voyageursgourmands.fr
En 10 jours je ne trouve pas, à moins de visiter à un rythme de dingue, mais chacun son truc.
En une semaine à Lisbonne je n'ai pas tout vu, ni même Sintra et Cascais. Tout voir superficiellement n'intéresse pas tout le monde.
En une semaine à Lisbonne je n'ai pas tout vu, ni même Sintra et Cascais. Tout voir superficiellement n'intéresse pas tout le monde.
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
D'abord Bonjour Miranda.
Deuxièmement vous ne savez pas si je visite superficiellement ou pas.
Effectivement si l'on veut tout voir/visiter dans une ville, autant y emménager 1 mois ou deux pour s'imprégner de la culture pendant qu'on y est, mais vu que tout le monde n'a pas cette chance, il faut bien bouger un minimum.
Oui chacun son rythme. Après dire que visiter Porto et Lisbonne en 10 jours c'est visiter superficiellement, je ne suis absolument pas d'accord.
Très bonne connaissance du Portugal
Voyages effectués: Tromso, Londres, Italie, Prague, Budapest, Vienne, Suisse, Istanbul, Croatie; Brésil (4 mois) ; Punta Cana ; NYCx2 ; Algérie ; Cuba; Martinique
https://voyageursgourmands.fr
Peut-être pas superficiellement mais je trouve que c'est un peu la course, à moins de visiter de 8h du matin à 20h le soir, ce que certains font j'imagine, mais je trouve qu'en speedant on passe à côté de pas mal de choses...
Mais chacun voit, en effet ! Quand on vient de loin et qu'on sait qu'on ne pourra pas forcément revenir, on fait comme on peut, c'est vrai.
Mais chacun voit, en effet ! Quand on vient de loin et qu'on sait qu'on ne pourra pas forcément revenir, on fait comme on peut, c'est vrai.
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Ma femme et moi revenons tout juste d'un séjour de deux semaines à Lisbonne. Si vous voulez des liens intéressants, je peux vous les faire parvenir, ou encore si vous voulez plus d, infos à propos de Lisbonne🙂
Bionjour André, est-ce possible d'avoir vos suggestions d'endroits à ne pas manquer?
Je suis en préparation de voyage moi aussi! Merci!!
Bionjour André, est-ce possible d'avoir vos suggestions d'endroits à ne pas manquer?
Je suis en préparation de voyage moi aussi! Merci!!
Marie-C
Bonjour Marie-c, je peux vous faire des suggestions, mais évidemment cela dépend du temps que vous avez l'intention de passer à Lisbonne.
J'y ai passé 14 jours.... d'autres y passent 48 heures.
Donc, il y a des choses à voir en priorité, selon le temps dont vous disposez.
J'attendrai donc de vos nouvelles
Cordialement,
André
j'ai prévu y être 4-5 jours, on m'a suggéré bcp d'endroits autour alors je suis un peu mêlée dans mes choix. Qu'est-ce selon vous serait vraiment à ne pas manquer? Merci!
Marie-C
Vous pouvez aller voir mon blog (lien en signature) pour vous donner une idée. J'y ai été une semaine après je flâne donc on va dire que ça correspond peut-être à 4-5 jours d'une personne qui a un rythme de visite plus rapide. Puis cela dépend de vos gouts. Nous avons préféré voir le château de Queluz plutôt que celui de Sintra par ex.
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Bonjour ! Je viens de parcourir, un peu rapidement, le blogue de MirandaMouse, et je dois dire qu'il y a là de très bonnes suggestions et je ne ferais que répéter les mêmes recommandations.. Il s'agit de faire des choix en fonction du temps dont vous disposez, de vos intérêts et de la ''qualité'' de vos chaussures de marche 🙂 J'en ai encore mal aux mollets😉 Voici un lien qui pourrait aussi vous intéresser.
http://www.lapresse.ca/voyage/48-heures/201205/04/01-4522133-48-heures-a-lisbonne.php
http://www.lapresse.ca/voyage/48-heures/201205/04/01-4522133-48-heures-a-lisbonne.php
André
Vous pouvez aller voir mon blog (lien en signature) pour vous donner une idée. J'y ai été une semaine après je flâne donc on va dire que ça correspond peut-être à 4-5 jours d'une personne qui a un rythme de visite plus rapide. Puis cela dépend de vos gouts. Nous avons préféré voir le château de Queluz plutôt que celui de Sintra par ex.
Merci Miranda c'est parfait!
Merci Miranda c'est parfait!
Marie-C
De rien !
Ah oui en voyage toujours prévoir de bonnes chaussures et là-bas ça grimpe 😛
Ah oui en voyage toujours prévoir de bonnes chaussures et là-bas ça grimpe 😛
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Bonjour,
Si vous avez 10 jours sur place, je suis du même avis que Cécilia, je pense que vous pouvez voir Lisbonne, Porto et la vallée du Douro. Je dirais 2-3 jours à porto, 4-5 jours à lisbonne et 1-2 jours dans la vallée du Douro. A Porto, je vous conseille la visite d'un chais (nous avons visité Ramos Pinto, très sympa !), le palais de la bourse, le quai da ribeira, l'église et la torre dos clerigos. A proximité de Lisbonne, je vous conseille vraiment Sintra. A Lisbonne nous avons beaucoup aimé le quartier Belem, bairro alto, le chateau saint georges, le tram 28, les funiculaires, la place du commerce, ..
Si vous avez le choix (et la possbilité), je vous conseille de louer une voiture, ça laisse plus de liberté pour se déplacer et vous permettrait d'aller le voir le palais da pena à Sintra.
Vous pouvez aller voir mon blog, j'y ai mis des photos et les visites que nous avons faites !
Bons préparatifs ! 😉
Si vous avez 10 jours sur place, je suis du même avis que Cécilia, je pense que vous pouvez voir Lisbonne, Porto et la vallée du Douro. Je dirais 2-3 jours à porto, 4-5 jours à lisbonne et 1-2 jours dans la vallée du Douro. A Porto, je vous conseille la visite d'un chais (nous avons visité Ramos Pinto, très sympa !), le palais de la bourse, le quai da ribeira, l'église et la torre dos clerigos. A proximité de Lisbonne, je vous conseille vraiment Sintra. A Lisbonne nous avons beaucoup aimé le quartier Belem, bairro alto, le chateau saint georges, le tram 28, les funiculaires, la place du commerce, ..
Si vous avez le choix (et la possbilité), je vous conseille de louer une voiture, ça laisse plus de liberté pour se déplacer et vous permettrait d'aller le voir le palais da pena à Sintra.
Vous pouvez aller voir mon blog, j'y ai mis des photos et les visites que nous avons faites !
Bons préparatifs ! 😉
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What do you all think? :( I’m wondering if it’s really a good idea to go...
Hi everyone,
I’m 66 and just discovered solo travel in Uzbekistan—I loved it! So I’ve decided to explore Africa, starting with Senegal. I’m just beginning my research, but if anyone can give me advice on which month to go, what to see, and whether this destination is safe—or maybe suggest another African country—I’d really appreciate your tips!
Hi there!
We’re leaving in early November for a month.
Here’s our itinerary:
Arrival in Takhmau, then heading to:
Kampong Cham
Kratie – 2 days
Mondolkiri – 3 days
Ratanakiri – 3 days
Stung Treng – 1 day
Siem Reap – 4 days
Battambang – 1 day
Kampong Chhnang – 3 days
Kampot – 2 days
Islands (WE’RE HESITATING WHICH ONE?) – 4 DAYS
Phnom Penh – 2 days
That’s it! 😊
We’re backpacking… and we love spots that aren’t too touristy. If you’ve got any tips, we’re all ears!
Thanks
Hi there,
We’d like to stay in Switzerland for five days.
There are two of us (women).
We don’t know this country at all.
What cities or affordable spots would you recommend for visiting?
Cheap accommodation.
Looking for community-based options.
And being close to public transport.
Thanks for your tips and experiences!
Best regards.
Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone has taken a Rede Expressos bus from Lisbon Airport to Lagos, and if so, where exactly at the airport you need to board it? I’m worried I’ll get lost and miss my bus...
Hi again,
I’m adding more details to my info request. Here are two proposed itineraries. We’re hesitating:
Colombo - Unawatuna 2 days - Sinharaja 1 day - Bandarawela 2 days - Kandy 3 days - Dambulla 2 days - Wilpattu Park 1 day - Kalpitiya 3 days - Negombo 1 day
What should we change or add a day for to include Jaffna?
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Hello everyone,
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.





