je pars en raid 4x4 dans le sud algerien avec 4 vehicules équipés , qui a déja fait une demande a la ARPT pour importer légalement GPS et radio VHF ?
je sais que normalement ces appareils sont interdit en Algerie mais il sagit de notre securité, meme si on doit prendre un guide , je VEUX mon GPS et ma radio
J'ai des potes qui y sont actuellement, et équipés en GPS, navig embarquée, VHF, et téléphone sat pour une durée de 3 semaines, rentrés en Algérie à Taleb Larbi de descendre par Hassi-Messaoud et Hassi Bel Guebbour vers le Tassili des Ajjer , Djanet , les dunes rouges de Tin Merzouga , Monts Gautier , Erg Killian , Tassili du Hoggar , Assekrem , ermitage du père de Foucauld , Tamanrasset , traverseé de l'Adrar Ahnet , In salah , El Golea , Ghardaïa et retour.
Je me renseigne sur notre forum de 4x4 et je te tiens informé...
Pour Votre sécurité et pr une meilleure fiabilité et crédibilité d un séjour sans faille, rien ne remplacera un Guide Local…….
La plus part des Guides Locaux possèdent leurs propre GPS et Tel Satellitaire, et croyez moi ce sont des gens chevronné, très expérimenté et des vraie professionnels.
Et en plus le guide est OBLIGATOIRE. Bonne Chance................................................Yough
Effectivement, un guide chevronné n'est pas à confondre avec un GPS ! Pour faire du goudron, personne n'a besoin de GPS, tout est indiqué partout !
Mais par contre, le GPS ne vous indiquera pas du tout de grandes dunes déplacées, les passages qui peuvent exister ce soir et demain soir ils n'existeront plus ! Seul un guide pourra vous sortir d'une telle impasse !
Je n'ai jamais voulu avoir un GPS puisque pas toujours fiable !
Il se peut qu'en cas de passage à la frontière ou lors d'un contrôle un peu plus poussé qu'on confisque votre GPS, jumelles, ...
ne pars pas en Algérie avec un tel état d'esprit ... 😇
dire; "je VEUX" 🤪 ... c'est le clash assuré de l'autre coté 😛
à moins que ... tu ne le pense pas 😉
un conseil, juste eu (1); il sont chez eux, et ils font comme bon leur semble, ET ILS ONT RAISON 😎
pour communiquer entre voitures, des talkie-walkies sont bien suffisants 😄
faites vous "piquer" par l'armée ou la gendarmerie avec des VHF,
soyez assurés d'un séjour gratuit dans leurs locaux ... ils n'aiment pas (pas du tout 😕) ce type d'équipement
on aime ou pas ce n est pas a toi de nous dire ce qu on doit faire dans notre pays!!!!!
en plus tu emplois le mot "piquer" , on dirait que les forces de securites sont la juste pour voler les gens , alors faut comprendre que ce genre de trucs est interdit on algerie par mesure de securite que ce soit pour les algeriens ou les etrangers et pas pour "LES PIQUER" au gens .
cherchez autres pays dans les alentours pour faire ce qui vous semble , tu peux meme deplacer votre armee labas si tu veux , mais pour l algerie tu te trompes d adresse!!!!!!
Désolée de te reprendre il est marqué - te faire "piquer" par les ... - c'est une expression en langue française pour dire "te faire arrêter" !!! Il ne parle pas du tout de vol !!!
Ce n'est pas bien d'agir ainsi sur un forum de voyage et surtout quand il s'agit d'expressions dans une langue ! N'oublies pas qu'ici c'est le français la langue de communication mais qu'il y a des dizaines de nationalités présentes sur VF !!! Chacun s'exprime comme il peut, et en plus Domayeux a bien dit que les algériens ont raisons de leurs loi ! Au contraire, il approuve ! Tu as mal interprêté !
oh c 'est quoi cette discussion !!!! on part à la guerre ou en vacances ?????????????????????????????
je comprends nos amis Belges de partir équipés puisqu'ils en ont . maintenant si c'est interdit qu'ils posent la question au Consulat de Bruxelles
C'est eux l'Administration pas nous !!!!
bon séjour en Algerie, elle a besoin de ceux qui savent l'apprécier et pas des mal-élevés !!!
ben voila !la question etait pourtant claire , et comme on a dentance a devier les sujets sur le site on a commencer a parler des algeriens et leurs mauvaises habitudes! alors que c'etait mieux de parler de l ARPT ET LES GPS OU VHF!!
De part ma grande expérience au Sahara, où je vis, je suis en mesure de dire que les consulats ne sont pas toujours au courant de ce qui se passe en réalité au niveau des frontières et des barrages.... !
on aime ou pas ce n est pas a toi de nous dire ce qu on doit faire dans notre pays!!!!!
parfois vous n'êtes pas "marrants" (amusants) 🤪
vous vous foutez en colère alors que l'on prend votre défense, c'en est désespérant 😕
LISEZ BIEN AVANT DE RÉPONDRE 😛 ... et de faire preuve d'agressivité 😇
oh c 'est quoi cette discussion !!!! on part à la guerre ou en vacances ?????????????????????????????
je comprends nos amis Belges de partir équipés puisqu'ils en ont . maintenant si c'est interdit qu'ils posent la question au Consulat de Bruxelles
C'est eux l'Administration pas nous !!!!
bon séjour en Algerie, elle a besoin de ceux qui savent l'apprécier et pas des mal-élevés !!!
pour avoir passé 6 ans en Algérie au Nord Sahara comme Directeur d'Opérations, avec des déplacements permanent dans le Grand Sud, j'avais fait la démarche pour avoir une VHF, question de sécurité, et de rester en contact avec mes collaborateurs, cette facilité demandée à titre professionnelle me fut TOUJOURS refusée, alors que les pétroliers/gaziers y avaient accès ... je n'étais "que" compagnie de service ... 😛
donc lorsque notre "ami" écrivait "je VEUX" je désirais le voir relativiser son souhait !! 😇 et le mettre au conditionnel 😛
sinon il allait sans contestation possible au devant de grandes désillusions 🤪
et j'ajoute "que charbonnier est Maître chez lui" à l'attention de mon "ami" Algérien, qui a qqs soucis avec la compréhension de la langue française 😛
tu dois savoir cher monsieur que on cherche pas qlq un pour nous defendre car quand on avait besoin d aide a certain moment tout le monde nous tourner le dos.et tu dois savoir que ta facon de nous defendre est rater😉
et t'inquietes je ne suis pas enerver car si il te semble que je suis enerver d apres ce que j ai ecrit tu as tort .
MONSIEUR 105BELGE ce materiels est parmis mes taches la ou je travaille , tu dois savoir que c interdit d aqquerir ce materiel sauf pour les societes qui ont des agrements pour importer et installer ces systems de communication.tu peux aller meme au consulat de france et tu veras que meme pour eux c'est un sous traitant algerien qui a un agrement qui s occupe de ca.
donc que on soit operations manager ou PDG d un truc ne te donne pas automatiquement d avoir ce materiel😉
L' Autorité de Régulation de la Poste et des Télécommunications (ARPT) A Alger ne te délivrera jamais l autorisation pour Ta Radio VHF, car tu peut te croiser avec les fréquences des services de sécurité (Prétexte légal évoqué: La gène du fonctionnement des autres réseaux de Radiocommunications!!!!!!!). Et si on te chope avec un Sans autorisation, crois moi c la galère ininterrompu avec la Gendarmerie et GIGF, surtout que tu est un étranger.
Mais pour le GPS, les services compétents sont bcp moins rigoureux, mais je te suggère de louer un sur place, et de louer un tel satellitaire il te sera très Utile, et en plus il est moins repérable.
Si tu tombes sur un Bon Guide, il peut te fournir ces deux Outils de communication fFacilement , contre un dépôt de garantie dérisoire (en espèces).
Bonjour JIJEL,
en fait je comprends bien la situation " des BELGES" ils disent tout simplement qu'avec un GPS (et ses points) et la radio pour communiquer entre eux ils se sentiraient en sécurité .
C'est tout simple il faut leur répondre qu'avec la qualité professionnelle des guides ils seront sans souci pour leurs sécurité .
Ils donnent le parcours désiré et le guide le fera en évitant de se planter un peu partout .
Bonne journée.
charly83
Même quand c'est autorisé, on tombe toujours sur des militaires persuadés que c'est interdit, il y a quand même beaucoup de postes de controle remplis de militaires, ou gendarmes peu informés. Personnellement, je cache mon GPS a la douane et dans les postes .Je n'utilise pas de vhf, ni toraya, je passe partout ou presque, même pas avec un 4x4 (Reggane Mali, Tamanrasset Mali, Tamanrasset Niger, et bien des circuits dans le désert, l'Algérie est presque entierement goudronnée de neuf, il n'y a que les panneaux qui ne sont pas toujours installés et les route ne sont pas toutes mentionnées chez Michelin! Et ne dites pas je veux en Algérie, l'autorité ne le supporte guère
Ps: j'ai qqs points gps et quelques tel de guides serieux , tout depend de votre destination
Je ne vais pas (encore) dans le sud. Mais je passe régulièrement la frontière aux niveaux des aéroports avec mes talkie pmr446 sans aucun souci.
J'ai vu ces équipements en vente (probablement libre?) dans des boutiques de GSM sur Alger et Constantine.
Et pas mal de mes clients sont équipés.
Il y a moins de portée qu'une VHF mais si 3-5 km de portée vous suffisent c'est peut-être jouable avec ces joujous.
Par contre dans le sud, à proximité des installations pétrolières, je n'essaierai pas...
En cas de confiscation c'est environ 100 Euros la paire de perdus.
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.