Algérie sans passeport?
by Fiodra
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous, j'ai entendu dire que desormais on pouvait se rendre en algerie avec un passeport français et une carte d'identité algerienne à la place du passeport algerien, quelqu'un peut il me confirmer cela? Si ça peut m'eviter de demander un passeport algerien et toutes les galeres qui vont avec 🤪 Merci! Fio
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Impossible, il te faut un passeport à l'entrée du térritoire algerien, ton passeprot français suffit, mais il te faut un visa, voir avec le consulat d'algerie peut etre qu'ils ont des facilités pour ce genre de cas ( obtenir un visa n'est pas aussi galére que ça ).
salut!
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M.... dire que j'ai fait faire une cni au consulat, alors rebelote pour un visa! Merci quand meme! bonne journée fio
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bonjour,
je reviens d'algérie et c'est vrai que j'ai vu des algériens avec le passeport francais et la carte d'identé algérienne qui ont passé la
douane sans problème. j'ai posé la question à ces personnes qui m'ont dis qu'ils faisaient celà depuis plusieurs mois.
est ce que c'est légal? j'ai posé la question au consulat d'algérie et ils n'etait pas en mesure de me répondre!!!!
a moins d'essayer par soi meme, je ne vois pas qui pourra nous donner la réponse.
si j'ai des infos, je n'hésiterai a les communiquer.
🙂
Bonjour et merci Omar, ici non plus à Lyon le sce des passeports n'a pas su me repondre 🤪 alors si eux ne savent pas en effet.... Mais obtenir ( enfin arriver au guichet) un passeport releve du parcours du combattant, alors si jamais tu entends de quoi me rassurer je compte sur tes infos!!! merci encore et bonne journée Fio
SO
en effet moi aussi j'avais entendu parler de cette pratique et le consulat general algerien de paris n'a pu me renseigner!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
Enfin, Mamid, je connais trop les rouages de la paperasserie pour m'y prendre au dernier moment, mais j'ai obtenu l'info et je me suis hatée de faire ma cni en "periode creuse", maintenant je suis prise d'un doute et je me pose des questions! Au pire je ferai un visa, comme je ne vais pas souvent au bled, c'est triste que l'administration ne nous renseigne pas davantage, mais finalement c'est à peine surprenant! Merci et bonne journée Fio
SO
😎 SALUT !! c'est juste pour jetter de l'huile sur le feu !!!!!!
Avant 1994 !! c'est à dire !! avant la fermeture des frontieres terrestres entre le Maroc et l'Algérie !! ( c'est bon ? vous me suivez ??) les Algériens arrivaient au Maroc en nationalitée Française !! et entraient en Algérie en nationalitée Algérienne !! c'est bien d'avoir deux passeports et deux nationalitées !!
PAPY (qui n'a qu'un seul passeport-- dommage !!)
Avant 1994 !! c'est à dire !! avant la fermeture des frontieres terrestres entre le Maroc et l'Algérie !! ( c'est bon ? vous me suivez ??) les Algériens arrivaient au Maroc en nationalitée Française !! et entraient en Algérie en nationalitée Algérienne !! c'est bien d'avoir deux passeports et deux nationalitées !!
PAPY (qui n'a qu'un seul passeport-- dommage !!)
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
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Salut Papy, le probleme reside dans l'inutilité d'en avoir 2 si un seul suffit, et en l'occurence le seul fait de perdre du temps au consulat est en soi dissuasif!!! Merci quand meme Fio
SO
L'Algérie sans passeport? Oui, c'est possible.Il te suffit de faire comme Johnny dans "Il était une fois dans l' Oued".🙂
D'après ce que tu dis mamid, c'est + long d'avoir son visa en juin? Mais à partir de quand exactement ils mettent + de temps?
je pars le 8 juin, quand dois-je le faire pour être dans les temps?
Merci.
en effet moi aussi j'avais entendu parler de cette pratique et le consulat general algerien de paris n'a pu me renseigner!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
en effet moi aussi j'avais entendu parler de cette pratique et le consulat general algerien de paris n'a pu me renseigner!
mon frere est donc parti le mois dernier avec son passeport francais et la cni algerienne, il s'est fait refoulé à la PAF de l'aeroport d'annaba, et retour immediat sur paris avec le vol retour en rotation!
donc moi je dis vaut mieux se faire faire un visa (à 30€) ou bien son passeport (à60€) au lieu de perdre son billet d'avion pour une visite express du bled via l'aeroport!!🤪
je pense en fait que cette pratique depend du bon vouloir de notre cher PAF!
voila!!!!!!
Quant a dire que c'est la galere pour faire ses papiers au consulat je repond que:
oui si vous faites partie de la categorie: "je fais ma demande de papier ou visa en pleine haute saison" (juin juillet et aout!)
non si comme moi vous vous y prennez à l'avance ou bien hors saison!! j'ai refais mon passeport y'a une semaine le consulat etait vide, j'ai eu mon passeport en 1h !!
n'oubliez pas que vos passeport, cni, carte consulaire sont renouvellable 6 mois avant la date d'expiration! donc un seul conseil allez y maintenant! meme pour les visas la demande peut se faire de suite meme si votre depart est en aout!!
bojour fiodra,
Un conseil a te donner si tu veux se rendre en Algérie le mieux c'est de partire avec un passeport algérien .parce que avec un passeport français il faudra demander un visa a chaque foi que tu veut yalé .et en plus avec un passeport algérien tu pourra rester le temps que tu veux en cas de besoin, c'est pas le cas avec un visa.
Et pour avoir ton passeport tu pourra l'avoir ces jours ci en 2 heur maxi si ta tous tes doc, c'est pas vraiment galère, après tous si tu vas en mois de juin ou juillet c’est normal que ça va être 1 pti pe compliqué .
salam
les autorités consulaires commencent a mettre plus de temps des qu'il y a de l'affluence c'est a dire avant les depart en vacances qui commence en juin!!
ton depart s'effectue dans 1 mois exactement, je te conseil de faire le depot maintenant pour en etre debarassé!
quand on dit que ça prend du temps, oui ça met longtemps! mais le visa il le donne toujours avant la date de depart c'est pas des sadiques non plus!!!mais au lieu de l'obtenir au bout de 3jours (periode creuse) lors de l'affluence ça prends de 3 à 15jrs! voir parfois on l'obtient 2 jours avant son depart!
donc un conseil wamo vas y des a presents ou bien dans les 2 prochaines semaines, mais en tout cas avant le 1er juin, pour ne pas passer tes journées au consulat!
ton depart s'effectue dans 1 mois exactement, je te conseil de faire le depot maintenant pour en etre debarassé!
quand on dit que ça prend du temps, oui ça met longtemps! mais le visa il le donne toujours avant la date de depart c'est pas des sadiques non plus!!!mais au lieu de l'obtenir au bout de 3jours (periode creuse) lors de l'affluence ça prends de 3 à 15jrs! voir parfois on l'obtient 2 jours avant son depart!
donc un conseil wamo vas y des a presents ou bien dans les 2 prochaines semaines, mais en tout cas avant le 1er juin, pour ne pas passer tes journées au consulat!
Merci Mamid et maintenant ça ne me rassure pas car mon ami ne m'a toujours pas fait l'attestation d' accueil !!🤪
Il va la faire en principe dimanche à sa mairie, en espérant qu'il puisse..........Et j'irai au consulat le 20 mai car je ne peux m'y rendre que le samedi en plus !!!!!!!!!!!!!😕
Le plus galère c'est d'arriver au guichet 🤪 apres c'est sur c'est reglé! Bonne soirée et merci!! Fio
SO
Bonjour Fio. Pour ma part, je me rends en algérie (alger) au moyen de mon passeport algérien et de ma CNI française. Donc l'inverse passeport français et CNI algérienne, doivent être de mise. Mais par mesure de prudence, vous devriez téléphoner à la PAF (police des frontières) de l'aéroport ou de la gare maritime, (voir n° tél. sur internet), qui vous renseigneront utilement. Bon voyage !
Oui, je vais faire ça des aujourd'hui, mais pour trouver le numero du port d'accueil😕, je vais deja chercher sur le net, bonne idée! Merci et bonne journée Fio
SO
Bonjour,
Je vais bientot partir en Algérie, j'ai mon passeort francais et une CNI algérienne.
Mon père s'est renseigné au près d'un agent de la PAF Houari Boumedienne et celui-ci
lui a dit que le passeport francais et la CNI algerienne suffisaient.
A votre avis puis-je partir sans problème (je n'ai que 16 ans).
Amicalement.
J'ai eu confirmation par mon neveu qui est parti ce matin, l'autorisation paternelle n'est plus exigée, du coup tu peux partir avec ce documents sans souci! Bon voyage!
SO
Bonsoir,
Voila c'est ça, du coup tu peux partir sans visa avec ces 2 documents!
Voila c'est ça, du coup tu peux partir sans visa avec ces 2 documents!
SO
Bonjour,
Une amie est dans la galère et n'a pas eu le temps de s'en ocuper avant!!
Elle part en algerie dimanche mais elle vient de se rendre compte qu elle n'a pas de passeport francais! En revanche elle a un passeport algerien et carte d identité francaise.
Sa question est de savoir s il y aura un problème? La carte d identité francaise suffit elle.?
Merci
Une amie est dans la galère et n'a pas eu le temps de s'en ocuper avant!!
Elle part en algerie dimanche mais elle vient de se rendre compte qu elle n'a pas de passeport francais! En revanche elle a un passeport algerien et carte d identité francaise.
Sa question est de savoir s il y aura un problème? La carte d identité francaise suffit elle.?
Merci
Bonjour a tous,
Je viens de m adherer a ce forum, j ai une petite question svp ! suite a l expiration de ma carte de sejour d 1 an, j ai recu un recepisse d un mois et declenche un rendez vous pour le renouvellement de ma carte de sejour en France, je compte partir en Algerie pour qq jours, et on m a bien informee au niveau de la prefecture que je pourrais me deplacer avec ce recepisse, mais voila qu une amie me previent qu au niveau de l aeroport d Alger ( lors des enregistrements, Controle de documents et a la PAF ) il pourrait avoir un risque de non obtention de permission d entree en France, qui veut dire etre refoulee !!!! est ce bien vrai, j ai deja pris mes billets, et je me vois deja dans les bras de mes vieux parents qui me manquent... pourriez vous m aider svp, Bien cordialement
Je viens de m adherer a ce forum, j ai une petite question svp ! suite a l expiration de ma carte de sejour d 1 an, j ai recu un recepisse d un mois et declenche un rendez vous pour le renouvellement de ma carte de sejour en France, je compte partir en Algerie pour qq jours, et on m a bien informee au niveau de la prefecture que je pourrais me deplacer avec ce recepisse, mais voila qu une amie me previent qu au niveau de l aeroport d Alger ( lors des enregistrements, Controle de documents et a la PAF ) il pourrait avoir un risque de non obtention de permission d entree en France, qui veut dire etre refoulee !!!! est ce bien vrai, j ai deja pris mes billets, et je me vois deja dans les bras de mes vieux parents qui me manquent... pourriez vous m aider svp, Bien cordialement
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Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.




