J'aimerai avoir l'avis de ceux qui sont déjà allé en Birmanie...
Etant donné le contexte, c'est à dire la mainmise de l'etat, il n'est pas forcement simple de découvrir le pays et d'aller à la rencontre de la population d'une façon des plus libre... et sans avoir l'impression de financer le dictat....il ne parait pas évident de se détourner des "sentiers" touristiques" plus ou moins surveiller ou gérés par l'etat..
Cela vous a t il dérangé ou frustré lors de votre séjour ?
C'est un sujet qui a déjà été abordé plusieurs fois ici et qui prête toujours à polémique entre ceux qui incitent à boycotter ce pays et pensent que cela peut contribuer à faire chuter le régime en place et d'autres, dont je fais partie, qui pensent que cela pénalisera encore plus les Birmans et ne sera pas décisif pour un retour à la démocratie dans ce pays. J'évoque là un boycott touristique et mon avis ne concerne pas un boycott commercial qui aura (et a) un impact plus évident.
J'ai effectué quatre voyages dans ce magnifique pays et n'en regrette aucun. Evidemment, il ne faut pas se lasser de dénoncer ce régime et faire en sorte que dans votre voyage vous ne favorisiez pas les activités gérées directement par ce gouvernement, autant que faire se peut.
Voilà, c'était mon humble avis.
Voyagez, voyagez, il en restera toujours quelque chose!
Merci pour vos réponse, je compte faire un long voyage d'ici quelques moi et je compte passer par la Birmanie, même si cela ne doit pas être simple.
Je suis d'accord avec vous sur le fait que je ne dois pas me priver de rencontrer la population et que je ne dois pas les priver d'une "vision" de l'étranger (en toute modestie 😏 )
Je pense essayer d'y voyager le plus simplement possible en évitant - au maximum - les gros pôles et combinaisons touristiques (hotels, organismes d'état..)
Cours y pour la population qui est une des plus acceuillantes et des plus chaleureuses du Sud Est et oublie la junte ; tu ne la verra jamais sauf à vouloir braver d'élémentaires règles de sécurité. Et paie les taxes en billet de 1$ seulement juste pour voir les fonctionnaires faire la tronche (ils préférent les grosses coupures qui disposent d'un meilleur taux de change...) 😉
Perso je remets le couvert en Setembre/octobre 2010 !
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Pas plus que les juntes cambodgiennes et thailandaises. Cette derniere peut s'ennorgeuillir d'avoir actuellement le conflit le plus meurtrier de la region...
Quand je lis que ce monsieur écrit,
Et paie les taxes en billet de 1$ seulement juste pour voir les fonctionnaires faire la tronche (ils préférent les grosses coupures qui disposent d'un meilleur taux de change...)
je suis plus qu'insurgée de vous lire, qui doit traduire votre profonde incompréhension de la réalité Birmane, de croire que votre geste d'un des plus ridicules qu'il soit et méprisable, vous donne bonne conscience
Critiquer OUI à la condition d'avoir bien compris ou je voulais en venir.... Je fais référence à des petites coupures lesquelles bénéficient d'un taux de change très inférieur aux autres sur le marché international: ce qui veut dire qu'en payant 10 X 1 $ de taxes à la junte elle recevra 20% de moins que celui qui aura payé avec un billet de 10 ou 20$. En quoi ceci est il méprisable ? Je néprouve pas le besoin de parler des kg de vétement distribués directement à la population ou des dons financiers pour me draper de bonne conscience !
Encore une qui pense voyager mieux que les autres avec SA "réalité birmane"...
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Je t'encourage aussi à lire les discussions qui ont déjà eu lieu à ce sujet sur le forum LP.
Généralement moins angéliques et plus approfondies qu'ici.
A +
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200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
La situation a sensiblement évolué depuis quelques mois.
Est-ce que ça se ressent sur place ?
Très interessé par les expériences de ceux qui sont allés en Birmanie récemment 🙂
La machine du tourisme est lancée ... le tourisme de masse va pas tarder à envahir le pays !
Nouvelles routes, nouveaux ponts, le change dans les banques, même aperçu un dab dans la banlieue de Yangon dans une banque KBZ. Les prix augmentent dans les guest house, écran plat dans les bus, les jeunes à la mode occidentale, internet accessible sans restrictions, des grandes marques apparaissent...
Le pays s'ouvre de plus en plus, c'est sur. Dans le bon sens, je l'espère. Dans tous les cas, je souhaite le meilleur au merveilleux peuple birman. Car il le mérite. en espérant que l'ouverture du pays et l'arrivée fracassante de la modernité n'efface pas leur gentillesse et leur sourire. Dans les maisons de thé, les langues se délient, et beaucoup pensent que le pays est sur la bonne voie.
Le pays se voit doté des pouvoirs économiques de la région asie du sud Est en 2014; Signe de confiance des voisins. Puis la Birmanie se trouve à un futur carrefour important entre l'Inde et la Chine. Sauront ils en tirer partie, et en faire profiter la population ? Sans se faire trop acheter ? En ce moment on peut apercevoir un immense réseau de pipeline qui traverse le pays, du golfe du Bengale à la Chine. Il y a seulement des Chinois qui sont employés, même pas de birmans. Les locaux l'ont en travers de la gorge... et je crois que dernièrement Aung San Suu Kyi va se présenter pour être député. Mais bon, la junte est toujours là et on ne connait pas vraiment ses intentions, même si elle donne du leste. Peut être qu'un coup d'état de Aung San Suu Kyi se prépare !
Si vous vous voulez profiter des sites avec encore pas trop de touriste, dépêchez vous !!! Car à Angkor Wat par exemple, il y a tellement de touriste, que le plaisir de la découverte est gâchée. Même si évidemment ça reste très beau. A Bagan, vous vous retrouvez seul sans problème à certains endroits en vous baladant à vélo. C'est réellement magique !
Voila, si quelqu'un à des questions concernant des visites, n"hésitez pas ! vous pouvez aussi consulter mon blog : ici pour voir quelques photos et récits du 15 décembre 2011 au 11 janvier 2012. Pour l'instant je n'ai mis que la moitié de notre périple en Birmanie. Mais la suite arrive bientôt
Merci pour ton message l'oiseau breton 😉
C'est très vivant, ça donne envie d'y être !
2 ptites questions :
- est ce que les birmans parlent (relativement 😕) librement et ont-ils espoir dans les changements qui semblent s'annoncer ? (à te lire ça semble plutot oui)
- est-ce qu'on peut voyager plus librement hors des itinéraires balisés (par le gvt) ?
A + 🙂
est-ce qu'on peut voyager plus librement hors des itinéraires balisés (par le gvt) ?
Pas avant quelques années quand même : encore de mauvaises habitudes à perdre.... 😛 Mais seul tu peux aller deja ou tu veux. Discretement, sans être trop curieux.
Mais es tu deja allé en Birmanie ?
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Ils parlent un peu plus librement, mais toujours avec une petite appréhension qu'on les surveille. Quelquefois avant de se confier, certain regarde autour d'eux. Mais ils ont tous l'espoir de changements qui brille dans les yeux en ce moment.
Nous sommes restés sur un circuit classique. Mais je pense qu'il est toujours difficile de sortir des sentiers balisés. Certaines zones sont fermées. Comme dans la partie nord de Namhsan, où des combats auraient lieu dans le Kashin (un cessez le feu est en discussion en ce moment). Autour de Kengtung, certain village serait inaccessible. Mais en se baladant discrètement comme dit au dessus peut être que ! certaine zone, ne sont accessible qu"en avion, donc bien ficelé par les militaires, comme la région autour de Putao dans le nord, que nous aurions bien aimé visiter... mais beaucoup trop cher pour nous 😕
En revanche nous avons vu des gens à vélo qui faisaient un périple dans le pays, ca permet surement de sortir un peu des sentiers battus et de rencontrer plus facilement la population. Ou d'autres qui louaient des scooters sur de longues distances pour découvrir les villages. Lorsque tu veux visiter les grands classiques qui sont incontournables, tu as à peine le temps de sortir des sentiers battus. Donc un nouveau voyage s'imposera 🙂. Et les zones restreintes devraient s'ouvrir petit à petit dans les années à venir, si le changement se confirme.
Merci pour tes infos.
Je ferai comme toi un circuit "classique", en 20 jours peu de temps pour se permettre des extras 🤪
Nous partirons à 2, en routard, cad sans rien réserver à l'avance à part le vol (genre à la touriste que certains gouvernements n'aiment pas trop 😎)
Perso, j'adore sortir des sentiers battus (et rebattus !) et j'hésiterai pas si l'envie m'en prend.
Celà dit, soyons honnête, partir en pleine cambrousse, ça peut-être aussi génial que pénible !
La Birmanie est une des pires dictatures de la planète, et même si ça s'ouvre très doucement, il y a encore du boulot 😏
Ton message est optimiste mais très clair, les birmans sont méfiants et on les comprend. Je n'ai aucune envie de mettre des gens mal à l'aise par notre simple présence... ou parce qu'on aura dit un truc qui nous semblait anodin mais qui gêne les locaux.
Je rêve d'aller en Birmanie depuis longtemps mais je déteste les juntes qu'elles soient de gauche, de droite ou de quelque religion que ce soit ! Alors j'hésite... Pour que tout le monde se sente à l'aise, je n'ai pas la prétention d'avoir la véritééééééééé.... même si c'est revendiqué et assumé ! Il y ades débats enflammés sur VF ou ailleurs entre les foyallé et les foboykoté !
J'espère avoir répondu à ta question, Philgbo, la réponse est que j'irai un jour 😉
Le beau conditionnel....
Si je vais en Birmanie c'est pour sa si attachante population. Et vais vite y retourner en novembre 2012 avant que le pays ne devienne une destination "bo bo" comme le Vietnam et y perde une partie de son âme . Auuparavant ce sera Philippines en mars. Donc ne pense pas mais FAIS LE.
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Le beau conditionnel....
Si je vais en Birmanie c'est pour sa si attachante population. Et vais vite y retourner en novembre 2012 avant que le pays ne devienne une destination "bo bo" comme le Vietnam et y perde une partie de son âme . Auuparavant ce sera Philippines en mars. Donc ne pense pas mais FAIS LE.
Plutôt que "bo bo" je dirais "tendance"
d'un autre côté avec moins de 500 000 touristes en Birmanie, et 19 millions en Thailande...il y a de la marge avant l'arrivée d'un tourisme de masse.
et dans les 6 millions au Vietnam.
bref, on a le temps d'aller en Birmanie, en espérant que d'autres provinces vont s'ouvrir aux voyageurs.
Chiang Khan en Thailande est par contre "tres bo bo" c'est même assez surprenant et amusant !
la birmanie faisable en 2 semaines , tu te prend pas la tete a faire du bus , prend des vols interieurs
les routes sont vraiment tro^p galere , pour l avoir fait en bus j ai bien flippe sur le trajet pyay bagaan
belle culture du pays , maintenant moi perso j ai pas eu de coup de coeur pour le pays et j ai depensé quand meme pas mal de fric en 2 semaines, j etais a 30 euros par jours sans compter le vol interieur
voila
j ai depensé quand meme pas mal de fric en 2 semaines, j etais a 30 euros par jours sans compter le vol interieur
30 €/jour "pas mal de fric" ? Humour 2eme degré ?
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Cette comparaison devient (vraiment) ridicule... 🤪
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Merci pour ton conseil, il est toujours important de parler compta.
Je compte en effet voyager avec mon porte-feuiile (pas trop le choix) mais ce qui m'intéresse c'est surtout les personnes avec qui je vais partir et celles que je vais rencontrer.
Je repose donc ma question : est-ce qu'un pays qui était, il y a peu (2008) dans les 5 derniers pour... :
- la liberté de la presse
- la lutte contre la corruption
- le respect des libertés publiques
- etc
Comme tu ne veux pas comprendre que les habitants ne sont pas représentatifs de la perception internationale du pays dans lequel ils vivent (et à laquelle tu semble très attaché) je suis assez content de constater que je ne t'y croiserai pas. Ce qui me permettra d'user (et abuser) à mon gré de mon libre arbitre sans avoir à me soucier de statistiques et des avis de pseudo touristes "donneurs de leçon démocratique" dont le discours m'a toujours consterné.
Je me demande même si tu ne serais pas de ceux qui ne sont pas allé voter un certain 21 avril.... 😇😇
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
MDR Mais tu racontes vraiment n importe quoi
je te dis c est cher point t as pas a discuter
c est plus cher qu ailleur et pour te faire criser parceque je vois que ca marche je dirai meme que la birmanie c est une grosse pompe a fric et un attrape touriste
ya franchement rien a voir et quand t aura bougé tes fesses ailleurs dans le monde on en reparlera!
bye
Une xhose est sûre c'est que dans chaque pays d'Asie du Sud Est, j' y suis allé plus souvent et bien plus longtemps que toi !! 😎 Par ailleurs mes destinations ne sont pas guidees par le faible cout de vie sur place...
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Une xhose est sûre c'est que dans chaque pays d'Asie du Sud Est, j' y suis allé plus souvent et bien plus longtemps que toi !! 😎 Par ailleurs mes destinations ne sont pas guidees par le faible cout de vie sur place...
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humm on a pas les memes valeurs! et arretes de polemiquer t es fatiguante!
la birmanie c est plus cher qu ailleur ! basta
humm on a pas les memes valeurs! et arretes de polemiquer t es fatiguante!
la birmanie c est plus cher qu ailleur ! basta
Lis ma fiche perso 😇
Ne te fie pas à un avatar..... 😉😛
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Super Vanille et Gbagbo, merci, on a compris que vous n'étiez pas d'accord.
Vous pourriez peut-être continuer en Mp, nous on est là pour parler voyages.
Cool, zen, peinard, peace & love, merci !
Est-ce qu'on peut aujourd'hui voyager à peu près librement et où on veut, en routard en Birmanie ?
Est-ce que les birmans parlent, à peu près, librement ?
Est-ce que la situation s'est sensiblement améliorée depuis 10/5/2 ans ?
Le témoignange de Loizeau était super intéressant, et comme vous avez l'air de connaitre le pays, je suis sur que vous pouvez faire au moins aussi bien.
bah ecoutes tu sais quoi ta fiche je l ai meme pas lu et je m en fou
quand on voit ta photo avec ta main sur la tete qui sert a rien et des poses que tu tapes sur un forum de voyage on a pas vraiment envie de savoir qui tu es et ou t as voyagé
ceci etant di on va te laisser retourner ds ton super pays et toi tu vas nous laisser parler sur ce forum tranquillement de la discussion initiale
ok ?
salut
Le beau conditionnel....
Si je vais en Birmanie c'est pour sa si attachante population. Et vais vite y retourner en novembre 2012 avant que le pays ne devienne une destination "bo bo" comme le Vietnam et y perde une partie de son âme . Auuparavant ce sera Philippines en mars. Donc ne pense pas mais FAIS LE.
Bien sur qu'il faut aller en Birmanie!! la réponse est sans équivoque ! de surcroît la junte militaire est assujétie au bon vouloir des Chinois ! Toutes les richesses de ce pays sont pillées par la Chine et bien sûr aucun gouvernement ne bouge le doigt !!! Le peuple Birman a besoin des touristes t dans quelques années cela sera trop tard et deviendra gangréné par les étrangers, comme le Laos et le Cambodge !!
Si tu apprecies les endroits uniquement en prenant en considerant le budget, je te recommande la province de l Isan en Thaïlande, c est super cheap.
Une bonne base de départ , udon thani (y a même un Mc Do signe d'évolution ? )
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...