Aller ou pas en Birmanie?
by Jayhel
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai entendus souvent dire que la birmanie n'est pas un pays qui accepte les voyageur... cependant jai assui lu quelque par que le peuple birman est un des plus acceuillant au monde .... 😕 alors aller ou pas en birmanie??
Rien est plus nuisible a l'esprit aventurier d'un Homme, qu'un avenir assurer... Le noyau central de l'esprti vivant d'un Homme, c'est sa passion pour l'aventure. Crhistofer(Alexander)McCandless
Bonjour!!!🙂
La Birmanie est un pays incontournable dans la partie sud asiatique!!!😉
J'y suis allé l'année dernière à cette époque ci et cela fut merveilleux et j'ai eu un temps superbe!!!!!
Les birmans sont des gens tout à fait gentil et pour faire des portraits cela est génial !!!
Maintenant, pour te dire d'y partir en ce moment à cause des pbls qu'il y a eu récemment je ne peux pas te renseigner!!!!😐
Bon trip dans ce très très beau pays!!!😉
La Birmanie est un pays incontournable dans la partie sud asiatique!!!😉
J'y suis allé l'année dernière à cette époque ci et cela fut merveilleux et j'ai eu un temps superbe!!!!!
Les birmans sont des gens tout à fait gentil et pour faire des portraits cela est génial !!!
Maintenant, pour te dire d'y partir en ce moment à cause des pbls qu'il y a eu récemment je ne peux pas te renseigner!!!!😐
Bon trip dans ce très très beau pays!!!😉
Tant que la couleur de la peau sera plus importante que la couleur des yeux, nous ne connaitrons pas la paix.
sur la question de savoir s'il faut ou non aller dans ce pays, je te suggère de consulter cette adresse :
http://www.lonelyplanet.fr/_pdf/mya5_yaller.pdf
http://www.lonelyplanet.fr/_pdf/mya5_yaller.pdf
Bonjour,
pour répondre à ta question le débat a lieu sur le forum juste au dessus "Bravo à ceux qui vont en Birmanie". Tu pourras te faire une idée.
soleda
Salut jayhel
Juste par curiosité, j'aimerais savoir par qui tu as entendu dire souvent que la Birmanie n'acceptait pas les voyageurs.
Juste par curiosité, j'aimerais savoir par qui tu as entendu dire souvent que la Birmanie n'acceptait pas les voyageurs.
Par sa conscience im...cile, juste ce qu'il te manque !
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Par sa conscience im...cile, juste ce qu'il te manque !
Ah ah ! prends ton courage à 2 mains un jour l'ami salsa3 ainsi qu'un billet d'avion et forge-toi une vraie opinion. Pas des trux que tu as lu dans des livres. En tout cas : t'es drole ... continue !
Ah ah ! prends ton courage à 2 mains un jour l'ami salsa3 ainsi qu'un billet d'avion et forge-toi une vraie opinion. Pas des trux que tu as lu dans des livres. En tout cas : t'es drole ... continue !
salut lucky ! J'ai entendu parler de cela par quelque voyageur (qui n'y sont pas aller bien sure) et meme par quelque bouquain !
Rien est plus nuisible a l'esprit aventurier d'un Homme, qu'un avenir assurer... Le noyau central de l'esprti vivant d'un Homme, c'est sa passion pour l'aventure. Crhistofer(Alexander)McCandless
Par sa conscience im...cile, juste ce qu'il te manque !
Ah ah ! prends ton courage à 2 mains un jour l'ami salsa3 ainsi qu'un billet d'avion et forge-toi une vraie opinion. Pas des trux que tu as lu dans des livres. En tout cas : t'es drole ... continue !
J'ai été dans bien d'autres pays que la Birmanie et pas des plus simples. Et si un jour je devais aller dans ce pays, ce n'est pas en visitant Shwedagon et Mandalay que je devrais me persuader que la dictature a subitemment disparu, les tortures volatilisées. Il faut savoir distinguer un peuple charmant et un pays merveilleux d'un régime sanguinaire. Tu as décidé de ne voir que la plus belle partie des choses, en occultant le mal, comme tu veux, c'est un choix, mais ne blâme pas ceux qui gardent les yeux ouverts.
Sans te raconter ma vie privée, saches que ma famille parternel a subi les purges du soit disant "parti du peuple", et pas pour une question d'exploitation du peuple étant issu d'une famille modeste. Et que les membres de ma famille restante aujourd'hui se comptent sur les doigts d'une main, le reste se trouvant dans des charniers quelque part dans l'Est.
Alors, tes aventures personnels à la "Martine se tord un orteil chez les scouts", franchement......
Ah ah ! prends ton courage à 2 mains un jour l'ami salsa3 ainsi qu'un billet d'avion et forge-toi une vraie opinion. Pas des trux que tu as lu dans des livres. En tout cas : t'es drole ... continue !
J'ai été dans bien d'autres pays que la Birmanie et pas des plus simples. Et si un jour je devais aller dans ce pays, ce n'est pas en visitant Shwedagon et Mandalay que je devrais me persuader que la dictature a subitemment disparu, les tortures volatilisées. Il faut savoir distinguer un peuple charmant et un pays merveilleux d'un régime sanguinaire. Tu as décidé de ne voir que la plus belle partie des choses, en occultant le mal, comme tu veux, c'est un choix, mais ne blâme pas ceux qui gardent les yeux ouverts.
Sans te raconter ma vie privée, saches que ma famille parternel a subi les purges du soit disant "parti du peuple", et pas pour une question d'exploitation du peuple étant issu d'une famille modeste. Et que les membres de ma famille restante aujourd'hui se comptent sur les doigts d'une main, le reste se trouvant dans des charniers quelque part dans l'Est.
Alors, tes aventures personnels à la "Martine se tord un orteil chez les scouts", franchement......
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Se faire une opinion sur la Birmanie sans lire... Ca me parraît bien naïf. Vous pensez vraiment que faire du tourisme en Birmanie c'est suffisant pour découvrir ce qui s'y passe? Tu trouves ça inutile toi de te documenter sur l'histoire, la politique et la culture d'un pays? Comme je l'ai déjà écrit : je ne sais pas si c'est intelligent d'aller en Birmanie en ce moment, je n'ai pas d'opinion tranchée sur le sujet. Par contre, je ne vois pas l'intérêt de voyager en laissant son cerveau chez soi. La Birmanie est une dictature! Ca signifie que les tourisites ne verront pas la réalité du pays. En plus de se heurter à la difficulté de communication liée à la langue, ils n'obtiendront rien comme vraies infos des Birmans... Ils sont baillonnés. Les racourcis du style "il sourit = il est content", "il est gentil = c'est mon ami", c'est réducteur et insultant.
Je crois que, quelle que soit la destination, c'est toujours indispensable de lire avant de partir si on veut essayer de comprendre un peu un pays... Dans le cas de la Birmanie, c'est indispensable. N'oubliez pas qu'en temps que touristes ont va vous servir des images manipulées du pays, il faut s'être bien documenté pour parvenir à trier un peu le vrai du faux... Au risque de rentrer plus ignorant encore de son voyage.
Vraie opinion??? Juste parce que t'as pris un billet d'avion? Ben, dis-donc, c'est pas difficile de découvrir un pays... Suffit d'acheter un billet d'avion et d'aller s'y promener avec son sac sur le dos... Et dire qu'il y a des gens qui perdent des années à analyser l'histoire et la politique d'un pays (pour écrire les bouquins que vous dénigrez) alors qu'ils auraient pu se contenter d'y partir en vacances... Allez, franchement, tu crois vraiment que tu découvres un pays sous dictature en allant faire le sympa avec ton appareil photo? C'est déjà pas possible dans un petit pays comme la Belgique. Ou alors tu penses que comme c'est exotique, c'est plus facile à comprendre?
Au cas où : je reprécise : pas de prise de position pour moi entre y aller ou pas. Par contre, si c'est pour y aller avec la tête dans un sac, vraiment, je répète que je ne vois pas l'intérêt.
Au cas où : je reprécise : pas de prise de position pour moi entre y aller ou pas. Par contre, si c'est pour y aller avec la tête dans un sac, vraiment, je répète que je ne vois pas l'intérêt.
Par contre, si c'est pour y aller avec la tête dans un sac, vraiment, je répète que je ne vois pas l'intérêt.
Et où as tu vu que les gens qui vont en Birmanie y vont la tête dans un sac ? Il me semble tout de même que se rendre sur place est une source de connaissance du pays non négligeable : il ne faut pas non plus prendre les gens pour des abrutis, et croire qu'en étant sur place ils oublient tout de la dictature et des très difficiles conditions de vie des Birmans. Je te rassure, même si la présence militaire n'est pas forcément très visible pour les touristes là bas, les très difficiles conditions de vie des Birmans on ne peut pas ne pas les voir; mais pour savoir celà, il faut y être allé...
Et où as tu vu que les gens qui vont en Birmanie y vont la tête dans un sac ? Il me semble tout de même que se rendre sur place est une source de connaissance du pays non négligeable : il ne faut pas non plus prendre les gens pour des abrutis, et croire qu'en étant sur place ils oublient tout de la dictature et des très difficiles conditions de vie des Birmans. Je te rassure, même si la présence militaire n'est pas forcément très visible pour les touristes là bas, les très difficiles conditions de vie des Birmans on ne peut pas ne pas les voir; mais pour savoir celà, il faut y être allé...
Cyrille
La Birmanie est une dictature! Ca signifie que les tourisites ne verront pas la réalité du pays.
Dictature ou démocratie, on voit d'un pays étranger ce qu'on veut bien en voir. Et je ne crois pas qu'on voie mieux à distance...
je ne sais pas si c'est intelligent d'aller en Birmanie en ce moment
Et d'après toi, où est-il intelligent d'aller ? ça m'intéresse parce que je suis en train de programmer mon prochain voyage et je ne voudrais pas passer pour une touriste débile...
En plus de se heurter à la difficulté de communication liée à la langue, ils n'obtiendront rien comme vraies infos des Birmans... Ils sont baillonnés
Si j'ai bien compris, tu n'es jamais allée là bas. Comment sais tu donc comment se passent les rapports avec les Birmans, ce qu'ils disent ou pas ?
je ne vois pas l'intérêt de voyager en laissant son cerveau chez soi
Ben moi non plus, c'est pourquoi j'avais emporté le mien avec moi quand je suis allée en birmanie.
Dictature ou démocratie, on voit d'un pays étranger ce qu'on veut bien en voir. Et je ne crois pas qu'on voie mieux à distance...
je ne sais pas si c'est intelligent d'aller en Birmanie en ce moment
Et d'après toi, où est-il intelligent d'aller ? ça m'intéresse parce que je suis en train de programmer mon prochain voyage et je ne voudrais pas passer pour une touriste débile...
En plus de se heurter à la difficulté de communication liée à la langue, ils n'obtiendront rien comme vraies infos des Birmans... Ils sont baillonnés
Si j'ai bien compris, tu n'es jamais allée là bas. Comment sais tu donc comment se passent les rapports avec les Birmans, ce qu'ils disent ou pas ?
je ne vois pas l'intérêt de voyager en laissant son cerveau chez soi
Ben moi non plus, c'est pourquoi j'avais emporté le mien avec moi quand je suis allée en birmanie.
Cyrille
Tes propos me rappellent une citation de GB Shaw: «Je ne vois pas bien pourquoi les hommes qui croient aux électrons se considèrent comme moins crédules que les hommes qui croient aux anges.»
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Je n'ai jamais fait de telle généralité... J'espère bien que tous les touristes qui vont en Birmanie n'y vont pas avec un sac sur la tête. Ma réponse concernait seulement le conseil de laisser tomber les livres. Je me doute qu'il doit y avoir des gens qui se documentent en plus de voyager!
Je me doute également que tu vois que la condition de vie des Birmans n'est pas facile lorsque tu voyages. Par contre, pour approfondir, y'a pas de miracle, il faut se documenter. Je n'ai jamais accusé tous les touristes de ne pas le faire... Je dis juste que se rendre en Birmanie sans se renseigner réellement sur la situation politique du pays, comme suggéré plus haut, ca n'a pas de sens. Et puis, voir la misère d'un peuple... ca reste voir, où est l'intérêt si ce n'est pas accompagné d'une réflexion en profondeur?
Tiens, tu cites des écrits toi maintenant? Donc si je comprends bien la moral de ce que tu dis, c'est : "mieux vaut voyager naïf"?... C'est vrai, c'est certainement plus confortable!
Juste une précision : les électrons sont invisibles à l'oeil, c'est pour cette raison que cette comparaison a été faite. la dictature birmane est moins discrète! Et encore une autre précision : c'est en se basant sur ce genre de grandes réflexions que les catholiques intégristes défendent le créationnisme.
Mais bon, si ton crédo c'est de rester dans l'ignorance... Chacun son truc!
Et puis, voir la misère d'un peuple... ca reste voir, où est l'intérêt si ce n'est pas accompagné d'une réflexion en profondeur?
Rebelote... Tu serais pas un peu têtue toi ?😉
ben oui, mais où est-il écrit qu"on ne réfléchit pas, qu'on ne se documente pas ?
Car si on ne peut pas connaître la réalité de ce pays seulement en le visitant, peux-tu prétendre qu'on peut la connaître cette réalité sans venir voir, juste ne se documentant ? Perso moi je ne crois pas...
Rebelote... Tu serais pas un peu têtue toi ?😉
ben oui, mais où est-il écrit qu"on ne réfléchit pas, qu'on ne se documente pas ?
Car si on ne peut pas connaître la réalité de ce pays seulement en le visitant, peux-tu prétendre qu'on peut la connaître cette réalité sans venir voir, juste ne se documentant ? Perso moi je ne crois pas...
Cyrille
Euh, mon message était adressé à CyrilleG et va dans le même sens que tes propos. Cela me paraissait pourtant évident. Faut croire que je me suis trompé.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Bon, dernière fois, arrête de te sentir attaquer et relis ce que j'ai écrit!!! J'ai répondu à quelques personnes qui ne voyaient pas l'utilité des livres. Je n'ai JAMAIS prétendu que c'était le cas de ts les touristes. Je suppose bien qu'il y en a qui se documentent avant de partir, l'inverse serait triste tt de même!
Ah, pardon, j'avais loupé son message
La Birmanie est une dictature! Ca signifie que les tourisites ne verront pas la réalité du pays.
Dictature ou démocratie, on voit d'un pays étranger ce qu'on veut bien en voir. Et je ne crois pas qu'on voie mieux à distance...
je ne sais pas si c'est intelligent d'aller en Birmanie en ce moment
Et d'après toi, où est-il intelligent d'aller ? ça m'intéresse parce que je suis en train de programmer mon prochain voyage et je ne voudrais pas passer pour une touriste débile...
En plus de se heurter à la difficulté de communication liée à la langue, ils n'obtiendront rien comme vraies infos des Birmans... Ils sont baillonnés
Si j'ai bien compris, tu n'es jamais allée là bas. Comment sais tu donc comment se passent les rapports avec les Birmans, ce qu'ils disent ou pas ?
je ne vois pas l'intérêt de voyager en laissant son cerveau chez soi
Ben moi non plus, c'est pourquoi j'avais emporté le mien avec moi quand je suis allée en birmanie. Je sais pas pq tu te sens tellement attaqué par ce que j'écris alors que dans tes réponses rien est à contre-sens de ce que j'ai écrit. Dans mon message il est donc dit : 1. Que je n'ai pas pris de position sur le fait d'aller ou pas en Birmanie, ce qui signifie que je ne juge pas ceux qui y vont. 2. Ce que disent les Birmans sur ce qu'ils vivent? Pas besoin d'y aller pour savoir qu'ils ne vont pas s'épancher dans les bras de touristes quand on sait que le pays est remplis d'espions du pouvoir... Je suppose qu'ils ne sont pas suicidaires. De plus, j'ai eu l'occasion de discuter longuement avec qqu'un qui est parvenu à sortir d'une dictature, on comprend alors quels sont les mécanismes qui parviennent à faire taire les gens... Si les Birmans avaient l'occasion de s'exprimer librement, ce ne serait plus une dictature la Birmanie... 3. Je ne t'ai jamais accusé d'avoir laissé ton cerveau chez toi et je ne comprends tjs pas pourquoi tu t'es senti visé comme ca...
Dictature ou démocratie, on voit d'un pays étranger ce qu'on veut bien en voir. Et je ne crois pas qu'on voie mieux à distance...
je ne sais pas si c'est intelligent d'aller en Birmanie en ce moment
Et d'après toi, où est-il intelligent d'aller ? ça m'intéresse parce que je suis en train de programmer mon prochain voyage et je ne voudrais pas passer pour une touriste débile...
En plus de se heurter à la difficulté de communication liée à la langue, ils n'obtiendront rien comme vraies infos des Birmans... Ils sont baillonnés
Si j'ai bien compris, tu n'es jamais allée là bas. Comment sais tu donc comment se passent les rapports avec les Birmans, ce qu'ils disent ou pas ?
je ne vois pas l'intérêt de voyager en laissant son cerveau chez soi
Ben moi non plus, c'est pourquoi j'avais emporté le mien avec moi quand je suis allée en birmanie. Je sais pas pq tu te sens tellement attaqué par ce que j'écris alors que dans tes réponses rien est à contre-sens de ce que j'ai écrit. Dans mon message il est donc dit : 1. Que je n'ai pas pris de position sur le fait d'aller ou pas en Birmanie, ce qui signifie que je ne juge pas ceux qui y vont. 2. Ce que disent les Birmans sur ce qu'ils vivent? Pas besoin d'y aller pour savoir qu'ils ne vont pas s'épancher dans les bras de touristes quand on sait que le pays est remplis d'espions du pouvoir... Je suppose qu'ils ne sont pas suicidaires. De plus, j'ai eu l'occasion de discuter longuement avec qqu'un qui est parvenu à sortir d'une dictature, on comprend alors quels sont les mécanismes qui parviennent à faire taire les gens... Si les Birmans avaient l'occasion de s'exprimer librement, ce ne serait plus une dictature la Birmanie... 3. Je ne t'ai jamais accusé d'avoir laissé ton cerveau chez toi et je ne comprends tjs pas pourquoi tu t'es senti visé comme ca...
Mouais, admettons...
Si d'aventure tu venais à lire un de mes posts, puis-je te demander de le faire avec attention, de m'invectiver si tu estimes que cela est justifié mais d'éviter de m'agresser si, comme dans le cas présent, je ne fais qu'aller dans ton sens? Cela m'éviterait de me demander ce qu'il m'a pris de montrer que je partage ton opinion! Par avance merci.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Désolé, suis pas habituée aux forums...
je ne comprends tjs pas pourquoi tu t'es senti visé comme ca
Parce que c'est une femme... (oh, je rigole, je rigole mesdames!) Sur ce je vous laisse entre nanas (c'est pas péjoratif!) et vous souhaite, mesdames, une douce nuit exempte de toute forme de violence.
Parce que c'est une femme... (oh, je rigole, je rigole mesdames!) Sur ce je vous laisse entre nanas (c'est pas péjoratif!) et vous souhaite, mesdames, une douce nuit exempte de toute forme de violence.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Là, tu te ridiculises de plus en plus, tu ne comprends même plus le sens des questions.
Pour répondre à la questions originale avec plus de précision, que la junte se passe de touristes, ça ne les dérangerait pas, ils n'en ont pas besoin mais crois tu que les birmans soit assez c.n pour penser la même chose quoique en ai pu dire la dame il y a bien longtemps, il n'y a que des tordus du cerveau formater par une certaine intelligencia borné et obtus par son irréalisme dans la perception de la réalité du terrain pour continuer à penser des c.......s pareilles.
Mais bon, chacun peut penser ce qu'il veut, de très loin, moi, je pense et je parle de ce que je vis tous les jours.
je te conseillerai vivement la Birmanie. Je suis moi même asiatique et j'ai fait beaucoup de pays d'asie du sud, et la birmanie a été le pays que j'ai le plus apprécié, et pourtant ce nest pas mon pays dorigine. Tu trouveras mille et une chose a découvrir, les gens y sont très gentils contrairement a ce qu'on pourrait imaginer, et on est pas dépaysé la bas, il y a pas mal de francais. C'est un très beau pays qui na pas encore vecu le developpement touristique (dans le mauvais sens du terme). La nature, les paysages sont d'une beauté incroyable. J'espère que tu te laisseras tenter.
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Je te rassure, même si la présence militaire n'est pas forcément très visible pour les touristes là bas, les très difficiles conditions de vie des Birmans on ne peut pas ne pas les voir;
mais pour savoir celà, il faut y être allé...
Une dictature n'est pas seulement visible par sa présence de militaires dans la rue. Une dictature se distingue par le fait qu'il y a des espions en civils et des indicateurs un peu partout à traquer les contre révolutionnaires, à observer le peuple, récolter des informations, faire des rapports.Une dictacture se distingue par le fait qu'elle opprime son peuple discrètement, muselle voir supprime la presse indépendante, censure les livres, le cinéma, le théatre, contrôle l'économie les autorisations et les licences, taxe et soutire de l'argent au peuple pour privilégier les dirigeants et un certain nombre de privilégiés aux ordres du pouvoir.Une dictacture se distingue par le fait qu'elle ne consacre que peu de budget à la santé, l'éducation, la formation, les infrastructures tout en renforçant l'armée, la police et les services secrets.
Et cela, il ne faut pas y être allé pour le savoir. Y allé c'est aller voir les effets, la cause est tellement peu visible.
De par le monde, il y a des dictactures qui ont une économie prospère comme la Tunisie, et des pays démocratiques qui ont une économie désastreuse et une inflation galopante et où les gens y sont très miséreux.
La Birmanie réunit tous les ingrédients d'une pur et dur dictacture.
Une dictature n'est pas seulement visible par sa présence de militaires dans la rue. Une dictature se distingue par le fait qu'il y a des espions en civils et des indicateurs un peu partout à traquer les contre révolutionnaires, à observer le peuple, récolter des informations, faire des rapports.Une dictacture se distingue par le fait qu'elle opprime son peuple discrètement, muselle voir supprime la presse indépendante, censure les livres, le cinéma, le théatre, contrôle l'économie les autorisations et les licences, taxe et soutire de l'argent au peuple pour privilégier les dirigeants et un certain nombre de privilégiés aux ordres du pouvoir.Une dictacture se distingue par le fait qu'elle ne consacre que peu de budget à la santé, l'éducation, la formation, les infrastructures tout en renforçant l'armée, la police et les services secrets.
Et cela, il ne faut pas y être allé pour le savoir. Y allé c'est aller voir les effets, la cause est tellement peu visible.
De par le monde, il y a des dictactures qui ont une économie prospère comme la Tunisie, et des pays démocratiques qui ont une économie désastreuse et une inflation galopante et où les gens y sont très miséreux.
La Birmanie réunit tous les ingrédients d'une pur et dur dictacture.
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
Bon oui et alors tu nous a balancé pour la énième fois ce que tout le monde commence à connaitre par cœur et après, crois tu que cela va les aider à se libérer de leurs jougs et crois tu que de ne plus voir venir des étrangers visiter leur pays vas les aider encore plus et crois tu encore que de crever un peu plus de faim pour un peu plus de monde va encore plus leur donner la force et la volonté de s'en libérer. Non pas du tout, c'est la preuve de ta méconnaissance totale de ce cas particulier qu'est le Myanmar et son contexte géopolitique.
Merci pour ton intervention Salsa, mais ton cours magistral n'est pas né"cessaire, j'ai été à l'école et je sais déjà tout ça.
Je sais aussi qu'on ne voit rien du pouvoir quand on est là bas (ou ailleurs, j'en connais plusieurs des dictatures...), et qu'on ne voit que les conséquences de l'oppression sur la population.
la question n'est pas de savoir quel type de régime est la Birmanie, ça on le sait tous, ni de définir une dictature d'autres l'ont fait bien mieux que toi. Range donc tes leçons s'il te plaît.
la question n'est pas de savoir quel type de régime est la Birmanie, ça on le sait tous, ni de définir une dictature d'autres l'ont fait bien mieux que toi. Range donc tes leçons s'il te plaît.
Cyrille
Tes propos me rappellent une citation de GB Shaw: «Je ne vois pas bien pourquoi les hommes qui croient aux électrons se considèrent comme moins crédules que les hommes qui croient aux anges.»
Tu peux m'expliquer, quelque chose m'échappe : si j'ai bien compris le sens de ta remarque, je serais celle qui croit aux anges ? Qu'est ce que j'ai dit qui puisse te faire penser ça ?
Tu peux m'expliquer, quelque chose m'échappe : si j'ai bien compris le sens de ta remarque, je serais celle qui croit aux anges ? Qu'est ce que j'ai dit qui puisse te faire penser ça ?
Cyrille
Non, tu es celle qui croit aux électrons.
C'était un trope de type métaphorique. Il te suffit de remplacer "qui croient aux électrons" par "qui sont allés en Birmanie" et "qui croient aux anges" par "qui ne sont pas allés en Birmanie mais qui ont acquis certaines connaissances par le biais de la lecture de documents relatifs à ce sujet".
Je précise, pour éviter toute polémique, même si c'est illusoire, que je ne fais partie ni des premiers ni des seconds.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
OK...
Devant le tableau paradisiaque que certains peignent de ce pays, occultant les conditions épouvantables d'existence des habitants, j'avais interprété ta pensée différemment, et j'en avais conclu que tu me classais dans la catégories des émerveillés, ceux qui véhiculent une vision angélique de ce pays !
C'est donc plus clair pour moi, merci, même si je trouve cette métaphore pas tout à fait adaptée...
Cyrille
Lis ça tu comprendras pourquoi il faut y aller:
Touristes, envahissez la Birmanie ! Faut-il, citoyens du monde, vous rendre en Birmanie? Manger, dormir, voyager, rêver dans un pays sous le joug d'une dictature féroce? Faut-il aller à la rencontre du diable ? Oui ! Envahissez la Birmanie. Entrez-y avec votre bonne conscience et portez-là le front haut! Allez soutenir son peuple. Ecoutez-le parler, murmurer. il vous dira ce que vous voulez savoir, ce que vous voulez comprendre. Pas toujours avec des mots, mais souvent avec des regards, des sourires et une immense ferveur, silencieuse. O voyageurs, allez jouer avec le diable. Ne le craignez pas. Il ne crèvera pas de faim sans vous, le diable. Il ne vit pas en Corée du Nord, le diable. Il n'a que faire de vos devises, le diable. Il est déjà repu, le diable! Aung San Suu Kyi, l'ange de la liberté, s'est brûlée les ailes en prêchant l'auto-isolationnisme. Elle y a depuis renoncé, renvoyant chacun à sa bonne conscience. Comme il faut renoncer - et que ceux qui fustigent cette idée aillent au diable! - à l'isolationnisme économique, cette théorie qui prétend qu'en affamant un peuple, il se révoltera. Est-ce qu'un embargo a réussi à déloger Castro? Ou Saddam, avant la guerre? Non, que diable! Le diable ne dépend pas de l'Occident. Le diable est riche, le diable est fort, le diable a des amis, des grands frères qui le protègent, le nourrissent, l'arment. Le diable n'est pas seul en enfer!
Ne pas pactiser avec le diable, ne pas lui vendre d'armes, ne pas lui acheter son gaz, ni son bois, ni ses pierres précieuses, ne pas faire fructifier son argent est, pour l'Occident, un devoir. Les dirigeants chinois, russes, les militaires thaïlandais, les banquiers singapouriens... tout ce beau monde qui porte les droits de l'homme et les libertés fondamentales dans leur cœur, comme chacun sait, s'en frotte les mains! Mais risquer de bloquer l'aide humanitaire, si vitale, d'assécher les flux monétaires, d'aggraver l'inflation, la pénurie, la baisse du pouvoir d'achat, déjà si bas, de priver le petit peuple d'une ressource aussi précieuse que le tourisme, bref d'affamer les Birmans, leurs moines, pour les envoyer se faire massacrer dans la rue et torturer dans les prisons, est un crime. Non pas un crime contre l'humanité - ne nous trompons pas de camps - mais contre 50 millions de Birmans. Touristes-fantassins, inondez la Birmanie de vos devises, elles serviront peut-être à enrichir le diable, mais surtout à nourrir le peuple.
Philippe Plénacoste
Touristes, envahissez la Birmanie ! Faut-il, citoyens du monde, vous rendre en Birmanie? Manger, dormir, voyager, rêver dans un pays sous le joug d'une dictature féroce? Faut-il aller à la rencontre du diable ? Oui ! Envahissez la Birmanie. Entrez-y avec votre bonne conscience et portez-là le front haut! Allez soutenir son peuple. Ecoutez-le parler, murmurer. il vous dira ce que vous voulez savoir, ce que vous voulez comprendre. Pas toujours avec des mots, mais souvent avec des regards, des sourires et une immense ferveur, silencieuse. O voyageurs, allez jouer avec le diable. Ne le craignez pas. Il ne crèvera pas de faim sans vous, le diable. Il ne vit pas en Corée du Nord, le diable. Il n'a que faire de vos devises, le diable. Il est déjà repu, le diable! Aung San Suu Kyi, l'ange de la liberté, s'est brûlée les ailes en prêchant l'auto-isolationnisme. Elle y a depuis renoncé, renvoyant chacun à sa bonne conscience. Comme il faut renoncer - et que ceux qui fustigent cette idée aillent au diable! - à l'isolationnisme économique, cette théorie qui prétend qu'en affamant un peuple, il se révoltera. Est-ce qu'un embargo a réussi à déloger Castro? Ou Saddam, avant la guerre? Non, que diable! Le diable ne dépend pas de l'Occident. Le diable est riche, le diable est fort, le diable a des amis, des grands frères qui le protègent, le nourrissent, l'arment. Le diable n'est pas seul en enfer!
Ne pas pactiser avec le diable, ne pas lui vendre d'armes, ne pas lui acheter son gaz, ni son bois, ni ses pierres précieuses, ne pas faire fructifier son argent est, pour l'Occident, un devoir. Les dirigeants chinois, russes, les militaires thaïlandais, les banquiers singapouriens... tout ce beau monde qui porte les droits de l'homme et les libertés fondamentales dans leur cœur, comme chacun sait, s'en frotte les mains! Mais risquer de bloquer l'aide humanitaire, si vitale, d'assécher les flux monétaires, d'aggraver l'inflation, la pénurie, la baisse du pouvoir d'achat, déjà si bas, de priver le petit peuple d'une ressource aussi précieuse que le tourisme, bref d'affamer les Birmans, leurs moines, pour les envoyer se faire massacrer dans la rue et torturer dans les prisons, est un crime. Non pas un crime contre l'humanité - ne nous trompons pas de camps - mais contre 50 millions de Birmans. Touristes-fantassins, inondez la Birmanie de vos devises, elles serviront peut-être à enrichir le diable, mais surtout à nourrir le peuple.
Philippe Plénacoste
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Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Salut
Je n'ai pas le plaisir de connaitre l'auteur de cet article, mais enfin un article de quelqu'un qui a tout compris. Plus le beau soleil que nous avons, la journée va être plus légère. Le bonjour à tout le monde et bon dimanche à vous
Je n'ai pas le plaisir de connaitre l'auteur de cet article, mais enfin un article de quelqu'un qui a tout compris. Plus le beau soleil que nous avons, la journée va être plus légère. Le bonjour à tout le monde et bon dimanche à vous
C'est ce qui m'a plu aussi dans l'article, pour moi ça répond à toutes les interrogations du pour ou contre.
Départ en Asie dans 5 jours, une belle journée aussi.
"
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
Celui qui pose une question risque cinq minutes d'avoir l'air bête. Celui qui ne pose pas de question restera bête toute sa vie.
Paix et tranquillité, voilà le bonheur.
+1, un grand bravo a l'auteur de cet article, sans haine et avec humour il a effectivement reussit a faire passer le message que nous sommes nombreux a essayer de relancer a chaque occasion !
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Salut
Pour info, c'est le rédacteur en chef de la publication Gavroche, journal en français publié en Thaïlande depuis de nombreuses années. Des gens qui causent de choses qu'ils connaissent.
Pour info, c'est le rédacteur en chef de la publication Gavroche, journal en français publié en Thaïlande depuis de nombreuses années. Des gens qui causent de choses qu'ils connaissent.
la question n'est pas de savoir quel type de régime est la Birmanie, ça on le sait tous, ni de définir une dictature d'autres l'ont fait bien mieux que toi. Range donc tes leçons s'il te plaît.
Alors la faut pas rever... le sujet semble s'endormir c'est pour le reveiller un peu, tandis qu'en Birmanie la vie continue.
Alors la faut pas rever... le sujet semble s'endormir c'est pour le reveiller un peu, tandis qu'en Birmanie la vie continue.
"En évitant le tigre, on rencontre le crocodile" Proverbe Thailandais
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We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.





