Bonjour Quentin
Je confirme ce qu'a dit Natho ci dessus.
« Je sais qu'il y a eu plusieurs post sur ce sujet mais le dernier date de 2014, je sais que tous peu vite changer.. »
Info février 2017; il y a deux possibilités pour obtenir 30jours d'exemption de visa en faisant un aller retour en Birmanie à partir de Ranong :
_soit Ranong Kawthoung ou
_soit Ranong Andaman Club.
il y a au moins un café/agence à Ranong (près du marché central...) qui propose une formule tout compris au départ de Ranong, et même à Chumphon (pourtant à 3heures de bus de Ranong) il y a aussi des agences qui proposaient une formule tout compris (bus, bateau, etc) pour obtenir les 30jours (d'exemption de visa) au départ de Chumphon !
Mais il n'est absolument pas obligatoire de passer par une agence pour obtenir les 30jours thai, pour faire un aller retour dans la journée Ranong /Birmanie, je l'ai toujours fait par moi même sans aucune difficulté. Par soi meme, c'est possible, parfois moins cher, mais c'est aussi un peu plus long en général... 😉
Pour Ranong Kawthoung, si on le fait par soi même, je conseille vivement de prendre le bateau public (50thb, 10 places, qui attend d’être plein pour partir) plutôt que de chartériser un bateau (300thb ou 400thb aller et retour compris) car votre bateau loué risque aussi de servir aux transports de clandestins sans que vous le sachiez et avec à la clé, si ils sont découverts, le risque d’énormes tracasseries ... 🤪 🤪
Comme l'a dit Jungletroll, Pour cet aller retour Thaïlande Birmanie dans la journée, l'immigration birmane exige un billet de 10$ IMPECCABLE ou neuf aussi pour éviter d'avoir à l'acheter 500thb à Ranong, je conseille de changer des bahts en dollars à Bangkok en demandant bien d'avoir 2 ou 3 billets de 10dollars implacables. (2 ou 3 billets sont plus sûrs, car l'immigration birmane peut en refuser 1 pour un défaut invisible à nous, mais rédhibitoire pour eux).
Il est possible que le billet de 10$ (des agences de VisaRun) soit compris dans leur prestation à 900 ou 1000thb, mais le vérifier avant 😉
Depuis 2014 (ou ...) Il est aussi parfaitement possible d'entrer en Birmanie et d'aller au delà de Kawthoung par cette entrée, à condition d'avoir au préalable un visa birman (eVisa ou visa obtenu à Bangkok) , mais pour une exemption de visa thai de 30jours (appelé improprement VisaRun dans les forums anglo-saxons) donc pour un simple aller retour dans la journée c'est inutile, juste 10$ suffisent (en fait les 10$, c'est un permis d'1 jour).
Information conditionnelle : En novembre 2018, j'ai rencontré un voyageur qui m'a affirmé que l'ancien permis de 14jours de séjour pour Kawthoung, (le permis de 14 jours délivré à Ranong pour rester UNIQUEMENT à Kawthoung Birmanie et revenir ensuite à Ranong), existait toujours il serait donc possible de rester en Birmanie à Kawthung (et dans un petit rayon autour, de 8km...) (avec un « permis spécial » délivré à Ranong pour juste Kawthung) et de revenir quelques jours plus tard à Ranong.
Bien sûr un tel permis est inutile si on ne désire qu'un « Visa Run », ou si on a un Visa Birman (eVisa, Visapapier obtenu à lambassade birmane de Bangkok) pour visiter toute la Birmanie. Je donne cette information (à vérifier) car plusieurs voyageurs ont apprécié quelques jours à Kawthoung...
Bonne journée à tous
Pour aller de Bangkok à Ranong par Gros bus VIP de nuit, toutes les infos ci dessous:
https://voyageforum.com/discussion/se-rendre-koh-payam-depuis-bangkok-d8281031/Roughguide semble confirmer que le permit de 14jours pour uniquement Kathoung existe toujours, (mais à ma connaissance, il n'est/ n'etait pas nécessaire de réserver un hotel cher à Kawthoung):
It is possible to make a day-trip to Myanmar through any of them for a fee of $10 or 500 baht, but if you’re just crossing on a visa run then don’t choose Three Pagodas Pass as you will not get a new Thai visa stamp on re-entry. If you want to take a look around before returning to Thailand then you will need to surrender your passport at the border and return before the crossing closes for the day (usually at 6pm, but do check).
If you hope to spend more than a day in Myanmar then it is theoretically possible when entering through Ranong–Kawthaung and Mae Sai–Tachileik, but not with a standard visa. For the former crossing, you’ll need a special permit, which in practice is impossible to obtain unless you have booked an expensive resort or a live-aboard diving trip. For the latter, you can arrange a fourteen-day permit at the border, but it does not allow travel beyond Kengtung.
https://www.roughguides.com/destinations/asia/myanmar-burma/getting-there/#ixzz3bX0BXsxaInfos complémentaires :
Du RoughGuide:
The southernmost tip of Burma – known as Kaw Thaung in Burmese, Ko Song in Thai, and Victoria Point when it was a British colony – lies just a few kilometres west of Ranong across the gaping Chan River estuary, and is easily reached by longtail boat from Saphan Pla fishing port just outside Ranong town centre. It’s quite straightforward for foreign tourists to hop across to Burma at this point, and hop back for a new fifteen-day stay in Thailand (the “tourist visa exemption”). You can either do it independently, as described below, or you can make use of one of the all-inclusive “visa run” services advertised all over town, including at Pon’s Place (B850 including visa). Most visa-run operators use the Saphan Pla route, but they can also book you on the faster, more luxurious Andaman Club boat (B1000 including visa), which departs from the Andaman Club pier 5km north of Ranong’s town centre and travels to and from the swanky Andaman Club hotel, casino and duty-free complex, located on a tiny island in Burmese waters just south of Kaw Thaung.
Boats to Kaw Thaung leave from the so-called Burmese Pier in the port of Saphan Pla, 5km southwest of town and served by songthaews from Ranong market. Thai exit formalities are done at the pier, after which longtail boats take you to Kaw Thaung and Burmese immigration. Here you pay US$10 (or B500) for a pass that should entitle you to stay in Kaw Thaung for a week but forbids travel further than 8km inland. Note that Burma time is thirty minutes behind Thailand time, and that to get back into Thailand you’ll have to be at the immigration office in Saphan Pla before it closes at 6pm. Thai money is perfectly acceptable in Kaw Thaung.
WIKITRAVEL:
A Visa Run - is the most likely reason people visit Ranong. To start the process, catch a songthaew (#3 and #4)from the market (there is a bank nearby and it open 7 days a week from 09:00 to15:00 and will give you "new" USD10 bill at bank rate) on the main road in Town Center, or take songthaew #6 (South bound) on Route 4 right next to bus terminal. It costs 15 baht (Jan 2014, some drivers "forget" to give you change if you give your driver a 20 baht bill) to get to Saphan Pla, the fishing port providing the link to Kawthoung (aka Victoria Point), a fishing town in Myanmar. Most songthaews end up here eventually, though some follow a longer route than others. You get off when your driver pay a toll fee near a big fuel station on your right. The pier and immigration office is right behind the fuel station. A bank (Mon-Fri 08:30-15:30) is on the other of the main road. Your first stop is to go the immigration office where you must formally exit Thailand. Get your passport stamped and then head for the pier.
It is likely you will be offered a boat by touts. A longtail boat should cost around 300 baht (return), whether you're on your own or in a group. The price you pay for a boat should be negotiated before you get in: there are reports of tourists being charged up to 1,000 baht. If you want to be stubborn you can take one of the longtail boats with all the Burmese people in it and can get a trip one-way for 50THB (circa 2012). They will try to say no at first but make sure you bring two 50THB bills (one for the ride there, one for the ride back) and do not ask for change or they will try to keep the change. There is also a big boat which is used by more organised visa runs, and a small-scale trip via longtail usually coordinated by a white haired chap in a gold coloured pickup who hangs around the bus station. Longtails are faster and fewer people mean less waiting time at the various immigration points. The big boat is slower and takes longer because of the number of passports to be checked, but can work out cheaper.
Entry into Myanmar costs US$10, and notes should be in good condition, especially with no writing on them. Local touts sell US dollar notes but at bad exchange rates. There is a bank in front of the pier, you can exchange your money there with normal exchange rates. On weekends the Myanmar authorities also require photocopies of your passport done by a small shop at the immigration office for 10 baht.
The boat will first go to a Thai Immigration checkpoint, and the driver will take your passport to be inspected, then to a Myanmar Immigration checkpoint a few km further on. For some reason they don't need to see your passport there. When you arrive in Kawthoung there will be plenty of touts offering cheap whiskey/cigarettes/guided tours. You must first enter the country by going to the immigration office to the left as you exit the short pier to pay US$10 and tell the officials, who speak English, that you're a day-tripper. Two weeks visa are sold, which could be useful as Kawthoungcould be well worth a few days. If you're just staying the day, Myanmar immigration will stamp you in and out in one go so you won't have to return on your way out.
You'll probably be offered counterfeit Valium and Viagra by touts, and steered towards shops selling cheap alcohol and cigarettes. There is a limit on what can be brought back legally, and the boat may be checked on the return journey. You'll also be offered a one-hour sight-seeing trip on a moped from the touts. At the end of the trip you may be told that the price you agreed was for the moped only and that you need to pay further for the guide himself. It's well worth spending some time in the village even if you're just doing the day trip.
After the boat trip back you must return to the Thai immigration office to formally re-enter the country.
wikitravel.org/en/Ranong
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