Dans ce pays du Sud-Est asiatique, on appelle kathoeys, qui signifie "différents", les hommes qui ont choisi de vivre sous une identité féminine. Ces lady boys, qui seraient près de cinq cent mille, font partie du paysage, que ce soit dans la capitale, Bangkok, ou dans les villages plus reculés. Parfaitement intégrés à la société, ils sont solidement ancrés dans la culture du pays. http://www.arte.tv/guide/fr/064565-026-A/360-geo
Arte: les "lady boys" en Thaïlande (2016)
by Charli120
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
En Thaïlande, les travestis et les transsexuels sont ancrés dans la culture du pays. Ces hommes qui ont choisi de vivre sous une identité féminine seraient près de cinq cent mille.
Dans ce pays du Sud-Est asiatique, on appelle kathoeys, qui signifie "différents", les hommes qui ont choisi de vivre sous une identité féminine. Ces lady boys, qui seraient près de cinq cent mille, font partie du paysage, que ce soit dans la capitale, Bangkok, ou dans les villages plus reculés. Parfaitement intégrés à la société, ils sont solidement ancrés dans la culture du pays. http://www.arte.tv/guide/fr/064565-026-A/360-geo
Dans ce pays du Sud-Est asiatique, on appelle kathoeys, qui signifie "différents", les hommes qui ont choisi de vivre sous une identité féminine. Ces lady boys, qui seraient près de cinq cent mille, font partie du paysage, que ce soit dans la capitale, Bangkok, ou dans les villages plus reculés. Parfaitement intégrés à la société, ils sont solidement ancrés dans la culture du pays. http://www.arte.tv/guide/fr/064565-026-A/360-geo
Mézalor, pourquoi les Tomboys ne sont-elles pas elles aussi appelées kathoeys ?
Puisqu' elles sont, elles aussi, différentes ?
J’espère que la plus que confidentielle Arte en parlera aussi; tiens, à ce sujet, dans la série américaine Billions, deuxième année : Taylor joué par Asia Kate Dillon en est un ( Tomboy )
J’espère que la plus que confidentielle Arte en parlera aussi; tiens, à ce sujet, dans la série américaine Billions, deuxième année : Taylor joué par Asia Kate Dillon en est un ( Tomboy )
Le socialisme ne peut fonctionner qu’au paradis où il n’est pas utile, et en enfer où ils l’ont déjà
Il est étrange de constater que les documents(films, reportages, artistes...) sur l'identité sexuelle se muliplient.Certains affirment que la théorie du genre n'existe pas mais il est indubitable qu'il existe une volonté de formater les esprits.Ce reportage sur les katoeys mérite d'etre regardé car tout voyageur au pays du sourire a déjà croisé ces incroyables créatures qui souvent exacerbent la féminité au plus haut point.
Il serait dommage de se contenter d'un voyeurisme primaire ou d'idéaliser la vie quotidienne des kathoeys.
SOYONS DONC DEVANT NOTRE PETIT ECRAN LE 26 MARS.
thierry3468
... il est indubitable qu'il existe une volonté de formater les esprits.
SOYONS DONC DEVANT NOTRE PETIT ECRAN LE 26 MARS.
On n'est pas sourd ..😠 Et question formatage rien de mieux qu'allumer la TV en France ou ailleurs...
J' ai supprimé cet ustensile totalement inutile aux alentours des années 91/92, tiens quand j'ai eu internet ..Étonnant, nan?
On n'est pas sourd ..😠 Et question formatage rien de mieux qu'allumer la TV en France ou ailleurs...
J' ai supprimé cet ustensile totalement inutile aux alentours des années 91/92, tiens quand j'ai eu internet ..Étonnant, nan?
Le socialisme ne peut fonctionner qu’au paradis où il n’est pas utile, et en enfer où ils l’ont déjà
tout voyageur au pays du sourire a déjà croisé ces incroyables créatures qui souvent exacerbent la féminité au plus haut point.
Elles/Ils ne sont pas toujours d'une féminité "exacerbée"...😎 mais c'est en grande partie une conséquence du bouddhisme que celles et ceux que je préfère appeler globalement les transgenres sont bien intégrés dans la société thaï, puisque cette religion reconnaît bien plus que les 2 sexes communément admis dans le monde judéo-chrétien.
Elles/Ils ne sont pas toujours d'une féminité "exacerbée"...😎 mais c'est en grande partie une conséquence du bouddhisme que celles et ceux que je préfère appeler globalement les transgenres sont bien intégrés dans la société thaï, puisque cette religion reconnaît bien plus que les 2 sexes communément admis dans le monde judéo-chrétien.
Et question formatage rien de mieux qu'allumer la TV en France ou ailleurs...
je suis bien d'accord....la télé française donc européenne se permet de porter un ou des jugements sur une culture qu'elle ne comprend pas toujours ( ici donc la culture Thaïlandaise). Après tout les lady boys ça fait peut-être partie intégrante de la culture thaïlandaise..
je suis bien d'accord....la télé française donc européenne se permet de porter un ou des jugements sur une culture qu'elle ne comprend pas toujours ( ici donc la culture Thaïlandaise). Après tout les lady boys ça fait peut-être partie intégrante de la culture thaïlandaise..
Certains affirment que la théorie du genre n'existe pas .
"théorie du genre" d'une part c'est apparemment une expression anglo-saxonne ( je viens de vérifier dans Wikipedia ) traduite de l'anglais gender theory Le problème en Français de traduire des expressions de l'anglais c'est que l'essence même d'une expression ( dans ses fondamentaux) est souvent mal comprise parce que mal traduite.
Ensuite c'est une expression de la novlangue du monde ambiant qui veut dire tout et n'importe quoi et dont je n'arrive toujours pas à bien saisir la signification. Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ? Le problème de la novlangue qui vient le plus souvent du monde anglo-saxon et donc des USA c'est souvent des "concepts" fabriqués, pour la plupart bidons et pleins de vacuité ( zone de confort, plafond de verre..il y en a des tonnes comme ça 🙂)
"théorie du genre" d'une part c'est apparemment une expression anglo-saxonne ( je viens de vérifier dans Wikipedia ) traduite de l'anglais gender theory Le problème en Français de traduire des expressions de l'anglais c'est que l'essence même d'une expression ( dans ses fondamentaux) est souvent mal comprise parce que mal traduite.
Ensuite c'est une expression de la novlangue du monde ambiant qui veut dire tout et n'importe quoi et dont je n'arrive toujours pas à bien saisir la signification. Pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire compliqué ? Le problème de la novlangue qui vient le plus souvent du monde anglo-saxon et donc des USA c'est souvent des "concepts" fabriqués, pour la plupart bidons et pleins de vacuité ( zone de confort, plafond de verre..il y en a des tonnes comme ça 🙂)
Après tout les lady boys ça fait peut-être partie intégrante de la culture thaïlandaise..
Ca fait plutôt partie intégrée de la culture thaïlandaise. Et c'est globalement un modèle pour des pays comme la France où en 2017 on continue à discriminer parfois gravement les genres minoritaires. Déjà que les femmes y sont nettement discriminées, alors imagine, les genres "incertains"... Ce qui fait débat par ailleurs, c'est la différence entre le sexe, inné, et le genre, acquis. Et en France, en ce moment, il est impossible d'en débattre sereinement. Comme de nombreux autres sujets, d'ailleurs.🤪 Quant à sabrer un(e) documentariste, de mon côté, j'attendrai de voir son travail.
Ca fait plutôt partie intégrée de la culture thaïlandaise. Et c'est globalement un modèle pour des pays comme la France où en 2017 on continue à discriminer parfois gravement les genres minoritaires. Déjà que les femmes y sont nettement discriminées, alors imagine, les genres "incertains"... Ce qui fait débat par ailleurs, c'est la différence entre le sexe, inné, et le genre, acquis. Et en France, en ce moment, il est impossible d'en débattre sereinement. Comme de nombreux autres sujets, d'ailleurs.🤪 Quant à sabrer un(e) documentariste, de mon côté, j'attendrai de voir son travail.
Disons qu'une chaîne désirant booster son audience fera un énième “reportage” sur le sujet...
la télé française donc européenne se permet de porter un ou des jugements sur une culture qu'elle ne comprend pas toujours
Concernant les gouffres d’incompréhension des différences culturelles,
actuellement, une piste intéressante:
Silence de Martin Scorsece Le choc Christianisme/Bouddhisme poussé a son paroxysme
Aussi Josh Kim traite en partie le sujet dans son court métrage "Draft Day" 2013 qui a donné naissance a How To Win At Checkers (drame-gay) 2015 Une immersion totale dans la philosophie Thaïe
https://youtu.be/V5jpoRSAqQw
la télé française donc européenne se permet de porter un ou des jugements sur une culture qu'elle ne comprend pas toujours
Concernant les gouffres d’incompréhension des différences culturelles,
actuellement, une piste intéressante:
Silence de Martin Scorsece Le choc Christianisme/Bouddhisme poussé a son paroxysme
Aussi Josh Kim traite en partie le sujet dans son court métrage "Draft Day" 2013 qui a donné naissance a How To Win At Checkers (drame-gay) 2015 Une immersion totale dans la philosophie Thaïe
https://youtu.be/V5jpoRSAqQw
Hey Ch😎rlie,
Khrap pour l'info-tv, j'tâcherais d'Le regarder. Les lady-boys sont mes "froeurs". Merci à Obeo pour le lien de Draft Day, très intéressant.
C'est Beau quand VF ouvre son cœur à l'Autre, au Respect, à la Fraternité quoi, qui pour oim est chevillée au Voyage.
Pânel3😉.
Khrap pour l'info-tv, j'tâcherais d'Le regarder. Les lady-boys sont mes "froeurs". Merci à Obeo pour le lien de Draft Day, très intéressant.
C'est Beau quand VF ouvre son cœur à l'Autre, au Respect, à la Fraternité quoi, qui pour oim est chevillée au Voyage.
Pânel3😉.
Pas encore tout rose au pays des sourires mais une énorme évolution en quelques années
Le web et, les réseaux sociaux si souvent mis au ban, sont aussi des vecteurs d’éveil aux autres,
2012 : Pipop, aspirant transsexuel, La punition? 5 ans de Wat : https://voyageurasie-soleillevant.blogspot.com/2012/06/thailande-pipop-aspirant-transsexuel-la.html
2016
(Bangkok-Post du 28/12) Une école de la province du nord-est, a organisé avec la direction et les professeurs son 2° concours de beauté annuel pour les écoliers de "sexe croisé" Un clip vidéo du spectacle est devenu un énorme succès dans les médias sociaux après avoir été posté sur Facebook par l'utilisateur Peerasak Thaksawirekhaphant. Il montre près de deux douzaines d'étudiants de l'école défilant sur scène en uniforme scolaire mais avec des visages et des cheveux longs et fortement maquillés. Daily News Online a cité Prasanphan Pholthayan, professeur de langue thaïlandaise et administrateur à l'école secondaire, qui a declaré que le défilé "Miss Beauty Queen 2016" était parmi les activités des élèves pour le 117e anniversaire de l'école. C'était en fait la deuxième année que le concours avait eu lieu. La direction de l'école avait convenu avec les étudiants qui proposaient le concours que les écoliers ayant une orientation «troisième sexe» devraient avoir de la place pour s'exprimer Les enseignants estiment que les élèves devraient avoir l'occasion de montrer leurs capacités, dit-elle. Les concours ont été approuvés à la condition que les candidats se comportent et s'habillent correctement. Depuis le début des concours, les attitudes négatives antérieures des autres étudiants envers les participants sont terminées, a déclaré Mme Prasanphan.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x56o7ei_291216_lifestyle
2012 : Pipop, aspirant transsexuel, La punition? 5 ans de Wat : https://voyageurasie-soleillevant.blogspot.com/2012/06/thailande-pipop-aspirant-transsexuel-la.html
2016
(Bangkok-Post du 28/12) Une école de la province du nord-est, a organisé avec la direction et les professeurs son 2° concours de beauté annuel pour les écoliers de "sexe croisé" Un clip vidéo du spectacle est devenu un énorme succès dans les médias sociaux après avoir été posté sur Facebook par l'utilisateur Peerasak Thaksawirekhaphant. Il montre près de deux douzaines d'étudiants de l'école défilant sur scène en uniforme scolaire mais avec des visages et des cheveux longs et fortement maquillés. Daily News Online a cité Prasanphan Pholthayan, professeur de langue thaïlandaise et administrateur à l'école secondaire, qui a declaré que le défilé "Miss Beauty Queen 2016" était parmi les activités des élèves pour le 117e anniversaire de l'école. C'était en fait la deuxième année que le concours avait eu lieu. La direction de l'école avait convenu avec les étudiants qui proposaient le concours que les écoliers ayant une orientation «troisième sexe» devraient avoir de la place pour s'exprimer Les enseignants estiment que les élèves devraient avoir l'occasion de montrer leurs capacités, dit-elle. Les concours ont été approuvés à la condition que les candidats se comportent et s'habillent correctement. Depuis le début des concours, les attitudes négatives antérieures des autres étudiants envers les participants sont terminées, a déclaré Mme Prasanphan.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x56o7ei_291216_lifestyle
Penser que les ladyboys thaïlandais ne sont l'objet d'aucune discrimination, ni moquerie, ni ostracisme est peut être faire preuve d'un optimisme exagéré. Mais pour les Thailandolatres, tout est beau et magnifique au pays du sourire.
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Penser que les ladyboys thaïlandais ne sont l'objet d'aucune discrimination, ni moquerie, ni ostracisme est peut être faire preuve d'un optimisme exagéré.
Tout a fait, je l'évoque dans mon message précédent
Un film qui traite de la discrimination administrative:
1448 Love Among Us (2014)
(tourné dans les superbes paysages de Paï)
L'histoire sert de support au sujet de fond du film (via Bangkok-Post, la revue du 28/112014) Selon la loi civile thaïlandaise l'article 1 448 stipule que seuls les hommes et les femmes âgés de plus de 17 ans peuvent être légalement mariés. Cela affecte la communauté LGBT grandement puisque la loi leur interdit le mariage ils ne peuvent pas demander un prêt bancaire comme un conjoint, et, ils ne peuvent pas signer une autorisation si leur partenaire a besoin d'une opération d'urgence. Donc, si quelque chose arrive à l'un, l'autre pourrait potentiellement être laissé sans un seul baht. Le film réussit à tenir compte de ces questions auxquels sont confrontés les couples LGBT.
Mais pour les Thailandolatres, tout est beau et magnifique au pays du sourire.
Peut-être la phrase de trop sur un sujet qui devrait inciter a la tolérance ?
Tout a fait, je l'évoque dans mon message précédent
Un film qui traite de la discrimination administrative:
1448 Love Among Us (2014)
(tourné dans les superbes paysages de Paï)
L'histoire sert de support au sujet de fond du film (via Bangkok-Post, la revue du 28/112014) Selon la loi civile thaïlandaise l'article 1 448 stipule que seuls les hommes et les femmes âgés de plus de 17 ans peuvent être légalement mariés. Cela affecte la communauté LGBT grandement puisque la loi leur interdit le mariage ils ne peuvent pas demander un prêt bancaire comme un conjoint, et, ils ne peuvent pas signer une autorisation si leur partenaire a besoin d'une opération d'urgence. Donc, si quelque chose arrive à l'un, l'autre pourrait potentiellement être laissé sans un seul baht. Le film réussit à tenir compte de ces questions auxquels sont confrontés les couples LGBT.
Mais pour les Thailandolatres, tout est beau et magnifique au pays du sourire.
Peut-être la phrase de trop sur un sujet qui devrait inciter a la tolérance ?
Hey Ch😎rlie,
C'est Beau quand VF ouvre son cœur à l'Autre, au Respect, à la Fraternité quoi, qui pour oim est chevillée au Voyage.
Le chemin est encore long pour que ces "petites différences" deviennent insignifiantes. Mais il n'est pas inutile, puisqu'on lit souvent que "La Thaïlande est un pays d'arriérés", de rappeler que sur certains plans, ce pays se montre en avance. J'espère juste que le documentaire ne se cantonnera pas aux katoeys des quartiers chauds, ce qui donnerait une fois encore une image très réductrice des réalités de ce pays.
Le chemin est encore long pour que ces "petites différences" deviennent insignifiantes. Mais il n'est pas inutile, puisqu'on lit souvent que "La Thaïlande est un pays d'arriérés", de rappeler que sur certains plans, ce pays se montre en avance. J'espère juste que le documentaire ne se cantonnera pas aux katoeys des quartiers chauds, ce qui donnerait une fois encore une image très réductrice des réalités de ce pays.
Mais il n'est pas inutile, puisqu'on lit souvent que "La Thaïlande est un pays d'arriérés", que sur certains points, ce pays est à l'avant-garde.
Tout a fait. Notamment par rapport aux pays voisins. Quand on sait que le premier magazine homosexuel n'a pu paraitre officiellement au Cambodge qu'en 2015 et le Vietnam a juge pendant longtemps l'homosexualite comme amorale au regard des valeurs confuceennes et familiales, alors que l'ISEE (institut of studies of society, economy and environment) estimait en 2012 que 270 000 transgenres etaient partis se faire operer au Royaume de Siam, il n'est en effet pas inutile de regarder ce reportage.
On peut comprendre et aimer un pays sans tout cautionner ni etre aveugle. Il y a des travers partout et un peu de tolerance ne fait pas de mal.
Tout a fait. Notamment par rapport aux pays voisins. Quand on sait que le premier magazine homosexuel n'a pu paraitre officiellement au Cambodge qu'en 2015 et le Vietnam a juge pendant longtemps l'homosexualite comme amorale au regard des valeurs confuceennes et familiales, alors que l'ISEE (institut of studies of society, economy and environment) estimait en 2012 que 270 000 transgenres etaient partis se faire operer au Royaume de Siam, il n'est en effet pas inutile de regarder ce reportage.
On peut comprendre et aimer un pays sans tout cautionner ni etre aveugle. Il y a des travers partout et un peu de tolerance ne fait pas de mal.
Héhé, c'est aujourd'hui dimanche, à 20h (d'été), que les lady-boys déboulent sur Arte.
@+ pour le debrief.
PâneL3😉
@+ pour le debrief.
PâneL3😉
Je mets de suite une VHS dans mon magnétoscope.
Eh ben oilà, j'ai vu; Et j'ai kiffé: le récit de la life et le témoignage de Dio/Mini, la galerie de portraits de ses consoeurs Katoyes (hôtesse de bus, prof de math&danse tradi, meneuse de revue à Pattaya..), le regard et le traîtement de la société civile (famille, "rue", Autorités) & Bouddhiste (truly) Thaï et puis
Cette phrase, dite dans le documentaire, qui peut-être résume Tout, c'est à dire Rien : : Je m' disais aussi...
Let's be different=katoye!!!!
PâneL3😉
Let's be different=katoye!!!!
PâneL3😉
Touchant portrait de Me Me (mi homme mi femme) qui ne sombre jamais dans le racolage habituel des reportages tv.Mais, Me Me a un parcours un peu atypique pour un katoey car Me Me veut se situer dans un zone intermédiaire entre femme et homme.Beaucoup de katoeys veulent devenir femme et ne rêvent que d'une opération chirurgicale pour changer de sexe.
Le reportage met en évidence aussi le recours à une "hormonothérapie" très précoce le plus souvent sans surveillance médicale.La chirurgie esthétique très présente en Thaïlande participe grandement au changement de sexe.Il est aussi indéniable que la réussite financière de certains katoeys favorisent aussi la prise de décision de certains adolescents .
Ce portait est bien loin du katoey très efféminé exubérant et maniéré que l'on peut croiser dans les quartiers chauds de Thaïlande.
thierry3468
la télé française donc européenne se permet de porter un ou des jugements sur une culture qu'elle ne comprend pas toujours (ici donc la culture Thaïlandaise).
Où avez-vous vu un jugement ?🤪🏴☠️
Après tout les lady boys ça fait peut-être partie intégrante de la culture thaïlandaise..
Et il serait donc interdit de parler d'un sujet à partir du moment où il ferait partie intégrante d'une culture ?🤪🏴☠️
Où avez-vous vu un jugement ?🤪🏴☠️
Après tout les lady boys ça fait peut-être partie intégrante de la culture thaïlandaise..
Et il serait donc interdit de parler d'un sujet à partir du moment où il ferait partie intégrante d'une culture ?🤪🏴☠️
c'est une expression de la novlangue du monde ambiant qui veut dire tout et n'importe quoi
(...)
la novlangue (...) c'est souvent des "concepts" fabriqués, pour la plupart bidons et pleins de vacuité (zone de confort, plafond de verre..il y en a des tonnes comme ça 🙂)
Il semble que vous n'ayez strictement rien compris au concept de novlangue...🤪 Allez, vous me relirez trois fois 1984.😏
Il semble que vous n'ayez strictement rien compris au concept de novlangue...🤪 Allez, vous me relirez trois fois 1984.😏
Documentaire sensible et intelligent. Caméra discrète et observatrice...Des portraits de katoeys, certes...mais avant tout des portraits.
Une enfance qui se cherche, un esprit qui se trouve, et la mère qui pleure, et le père qui ne dit rien et qui prend son fils-femme dans ses bras...
Et le village, les racines et l'exode, le plus jeune parti étudier la médecine, l'aînée en Malaisie, les grands-parents qui élèvent les petits-enfants, et les tisseuses de soie, les vieux qui vieillissent, les enfants, le moine qui encadre, protège, devine... le bouddhisme, tolérance, limites, croyances, préjugés, rejets...et les chiens, et les cyclos, et la pluie, et le soleil, et encore la pluie, et encore les enfants, et les pistes de latérite, et la rizière, et les repas sur la natte...
Là-bas, la ville et ses fourmis, et les néons, les papillons de nuit, les vieux cons libidineux, et les paillettes, les strass, les militantes et les discrètes, et la solidarité...
Et toutes les inquiétudes, et tous les questionnements, et toute la foi, et tous les projets, et tous les chemins qui restent à parcourir...
La vie est parfois douce, la vie est souvent dure, et c'est toujours la vie.
Un regard plein d'empathie sur le pays. Ni celui de ses détracteurs vaniteux, ni celui de ses adorateurs béats. Un regard juste. Juste un regard. Au milieu du pays, au milieu des gens.
Et ces gens, je m'estime privilégié de partager quelques-uns de leurs moments.🙂
www.arte.tv/...064565-026-A/360-geo
Et le village, les racines et l'exode, le plus jeune parti étudier la médecine, l'aînée en Malaisie, les grands-parents qui élèvent les petits-enfants, et les tisseuses de soie, les vieux qui vieillissent, les enfants, le moine qui encadre, protège, devine... le bouddhisme, tolérance, limites, croyances, préjugés, rejets...et les chiens, et les cyclos, et la pluie, et le soleil, et encore la pluie, et encore les enfants, et les pistes de latérite, et la rizière, et les repas sur la natte...
Là-bas, la ville et ses fourmis, et les néons, les papillons de nuit, les vieux cons libidineux, et les paillettes, les strass, les militantes et les discrètes, et la solidarité...
Et toutes les inquiétudes, et tous les questionnements, et toute la foi, et tous les projets, et tous les chemins qui restent à parcourir...
La vie est parfois douce, la vie est souvent dure, et c'est toujours la vie.
Un regard plein d'empathie sur le pays. Ni celui de ses détracteurs vaniteux, ni celui de ses adorateurs béats. Un regard juste. Juste un regard. Au milieu du pays, au milieu des gens.
Et ces gens, je m'estime privilégié de partager quelques-uns de leurs moments.🙂
www.arte.tv/...064565-026-A/360-geo
Documentaire sensible et intelligent. Caméra discrète et observatrice...Des portraits de katoeys, certes...mais avant tout des portraits. Une enfance qui se cherche, un esprit qui se trouve, et la mère qui pleure, et le père qui ne dit rien et qui prend son fils-femme dans ses bras...
Joli post, belle plume. Ca donne envie de mater le doc. (pas encore regardé) merci ++
Joli post, belle plume. Ca donne envie de mater le doc. (pas encore regardé) merci ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Il faut que je m'arrête, je vais finir par faire des phrases.😎
Sir , Yes sir !
Je ne pige pas où est le privilège ; surtout que ce partage se fait par l’intermédiaire d' un reportage TV .. Partage plus qu' assez superficiel ..
Des lady-boys, y en a partout en Thaïlande ; plusieurs vivant dans le petit village d' Issan où j' habite depuis des lustres .. On se cause à l' occasion mais je ne vois pas du tout où peut/pourrait se situer un quelconque privilège de partage de leur vie ....
Va vraiment falloir que Charlie redescende sur terre de temps à autre ou qu'il arrête l'herbe qui fait rire ..
Je ne pige pas où est le privilège ; surtout que ce partage se fait par l’intermédiaire d' un reportage TV .. Partage plus qu' assez superficiel ..
Des lady-boys, y en a partout en Thaïlande ; plusieurs vivant dans le petit village d' Issan où j' habite depuis des lustres .. On se cause à l' occasion mais je ne vois pas du tout où peut/pourrait se situer un quelconque privilège de partage de leur vie ....
Va vraiment falloir que Charlie redescende sur terre de temps à autre ou qu'il arrête l'herbe qui fait rire ..
Le socialisme ne peut fonctionner qu’au paradis où il n’est pas utile, et en enfer où ils l’ont déjà
Charlie et ses drôles de dames
Il doit être fan
Je ne pige pas où est le privilège ; surtout que ce partage se fait par l’intermédiaire d' un reportage TV.. Partage plus qu' assez superficiel..
Hello, relis le post de Charlie. C est des portraits. Pas des portaits de katoeys. Bon j en parle sans l avoir vu. Pas d electricité ce soir orage oblige. Vais pas niquer mon maomao 399b. a mater un docu. On attendra le we et peut etre le retour de la land-line fibre optique operationnelle ! ++
Hello, relis le post de Charlie. C est des portraits. Pas des portaits de katoeys. Bon j en parle sans l avoir vu. Pas d electricité ce soir orage oblige. Vais pas niquer mon maomao 399b. a mater un docu. On attendra le we et peut etre le retour de la land-line fibre optique operationnelle ! ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Bon j en parle sans l avoir vu.
Au-delà de ces portraits de katoeys, certains aspects sont juste suggérés, quelques images, un plan fixe, une réflexion...Tu évolues dans ce contexte, pour toi, rien à y découvrir. Pour ma part, j'ai juste pris plaisir à visionner ce documentaire car il est rare de voir bien captées la vie d'un village, ses personnages et ses ambiances. Ce pays est tellement caricaturé que cette justesse méritait d'être soulignée.
Au-delà de ces portraits de katoeys, certains aspects sont juste suggérés, quelques images, un plan fixe, une réflexion...Tu évolues dans ce contexte, pour toi, rien à y découvrir. Pour ma part, j'ai juste pris plaisir à visionner ce documentaire car il est rare de voir bien captées la vie d'un village, ses personnages et ses ambiances. Ce pays est tellement caricaturé que cette justesse méritait d'être soulignée.
Tu évolues dans ce contexte, pour toi, rien à y découvrir
Si au contraire. Sur le fond je sais pas mais sur la maniere dont le sujet est abordé, je me rejouis.
Mais c est pas pour aujourd hui car de nouveau en 4g. Arg. Sacrifions un cadre local PEA rituellement a Songran.
Si au contraire. Sur le fond je sais pas mais sur la maniere dont le sujet est abordé, je me rejouis.
Mais c est pas pour aujourd hui car de nouveau en 4g. Arg. Sacrifions un cadre local PEA rituellement a Songran.
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Même ressenti, très touché par ce docu, par les personnes que l'on y voit ... 🙂
En Indonésie c'est la même, on a l'habitude des " waria " ( " wanita pria " soit "hommes femmes") ... Elles sont souvent vulgaires et tapageuses - surtout celles qui se prostituent -, prétendument bien acceptées mais en réalité souvent moquées et discriminées, voire pire ... Leur apparence ( pas d'argent, pas d'accès aux traitements ) n'aide pas, beaucoup les considèrent comme de grotesques monstres de foire ... Un reportage pour celles et ceux que le sujet intéresse : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJTzMHDaOlg ...
www.arte.tv/...064565-026-A/360-geo
Ca y est, je suis devenue une quiche blonde ! 🤪 Comme Nato, j'attendais d'avoir une connexion plus fiable pour voir le reportage en replay mais le lien ne marche pas "no playable sources found". Si les fortiches en informatique pouvaient me donner un coup de main pour faire marcher ce #@**¤¤# ordi ou un autre lien, ce serait pas de refus. Merci.
Ca y est, je suis devenue une quiche blonde ! 🤪 Comme Nato, j'attendais d'avoir une connexion plus fiable pour voir le reportage en replay mais le lien ne marche pas "no playable sources found". Si les fortiches en informatique pouvaient me donner un coup de main pour faire marcher ce #@**¤¤# ordi ou un autre lien, ce serait pas de refus. Merci.
www.arte.tv/...064565-026-A/360-geo
Ca y est, je suis devenue une quiche blonde ! 🤪 Comme Nato, j'attendais d'avoir une connexion plus fiable pour voir le reportage en replay mais le lien ne marche pas "no playable sources found". Si les fortiches en informatique pouvaient me donner un coup de main pour faire marcher ce #@**¤¤# ordi ou un autre lien, ce serait pas de refus. Merci.
Hello, http://www.arte.tv/guide/fr/064565-026-A/360-geo
Ici lien ok depuis la thai.
Suivant ton ip il peut y avoir des restrictions (restriction de marché geo, pas censure). Beau reportage. Et ca nous change de la Villiardere.
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Ca y est, je suis devenue une quiche blonde ! 🤪 Comme Nato, j'attendais d'avoir une connexion plus fiable pour voir le reportage en replay mais le lien ne marche pas "no playable sources found". Si les fortiches en informatique pouvaient me donner un coup de main pour faire marcher ce #@**¤¤# ordi ou un autre lien, ce serait pas de refus. Merci.
Hello, http://www.arte.tv/guide/fr/064565-026-A/360-geo
Ici lien ok depuis la thai.
Suivant ton ip il peut y avoir des restrictions (restriction de marché geo, pas censure). Beau reportage. Et ca nous change de la Villiardere.
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A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Il faut que vous cliquiez sur le lien que Nato vous a adressé.
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Documentaire sensible et intelligent. Caméra discrète et observatrice...Des portraits de katoeys, certes...mais avant tout des portraits. Une enfance qui se cherche, un esprit qui se trouve, et la mère qui pleure, et le père qui ne dit rien et qui prend son fils-femme dans ses bras...
Joli post, belle plume. Ca donne envie de mater le doc. (pas encore regardé) merci ++
Perso le plus beau reportage que j'ai pu voir sur le sujet Avec d'autres mots je n'aurais pas dit mieux que Charlie
peut-être remercier la réalisatrice pour son professionnalisme
pas évident de traiter en 45' les différents parcours et points de vue, et ce avec autant de sobriété et de retenue
Joli post, belle plume. Ca donne envie de mater le doc. (pas encore regardé) merci ++
Perso le plus beau reportage que j'ai pu voir sur le sujet Avec d'autres mots je n'aurais pas dit mieux que Charlie
peut-être remercier la réalisatrice pour son professionnalisme
pas évident de traiter en 45' les différents parcours et points de vue, et ce avec autant de sobriété et de retenue
Vibrrrrant hommage d'Obéo à la Réalisatrice du Docu, justifié, mais à mes yeux le premier talent reste celui de ses Sujets, , dont l'humanité laisse sans voix leurs r😛illeurs et livre un peu plus de leur "Beau secret" à ceux, que je veux croire plus n😎mbreux, qui les aiment d'instinct fraternel.
PâneL3😊, profession Humain.
PâneL3😊, profession Humain.
Perso le plus beau reportage que j'ai pu voir sur le sujet
Avec d'autres mots je n'aurais pas dit mieux que Charlie
Finalement regardé en 4G... Pour reprendre Charlie aussi, un regard intelligent sans caricature ni racolage. Des réflexions et des images qui m'ont beaucoup touchée. Un grand merci à tous les intervenants masculins et positifs de ce fil qui, sans moquerie, m'ont donné envie de le visionner.
Finalement regardé en 4G... Pour reprendre Charlie aussi, un regard intelligent sans caricature ni racolage. Des réflexions et des images qui m'ont beaucoup touchée. Un grand merci à tous les intervenants masculins et positifs de ce fil qui, sans moquerie, m'ont donné envie de le visionner.
Je ne vois pas ce que vous trouvez de si différent par rapport à d'autres reportages équivalents parlant d'autres sujets .( je ne connais pas De La Villardiaire )
Premio émission allemande , en langue allemande traduite en français; bien traduite? mal traduite? Je ne pourrai pas dire..surtout que la langue originale est le thaïlandais et de temps à autre le thai-issan Ce que j' ai entendu m' a parfois bien fait sourire ; des prononciations de bled " à la française " "fonne " pour Phon ou " fetchaboune " pour Petchabun;
Je m' attendais à plusieurs parcours.. En fait il n'y en a qu'un avec 3 minutes pour sa copine fonctionnaire/prof de danse et 3 autres minutes, même pas d'ailleurs, pour la nana/katoye qui bosse comme hôtesse dans un bus VIP .
J' ai adoré les quelques mots prononcés par son " mari ", le conducteur du bus..qui dit qu'elle se comporte mieux qu'une vraie femme; elle fait la cuisine, la lessive.. Ça en dit long en très peu de mots sur le comportement des jeunes nanas thaïlandaise. 😛😛 et bien entendu sur le machisme du thaï masculin .😠
Pour faire bref, je reste sur ma faim de connaissance; je n' ai strictement rien appris .
Pour le reste, de bien belles images de Bangkok sous la pluie ...😏
Premio émission allemande , en langue allemande traduite en français; bien traduite? mal traduite? Je ne pourrai pas dire..surtout que la langue originale est le thaïlandais et de temps à autre le thai-issan Ce que j' ai entendu m' a parfois bien fait sourire ; des prononciations de bled " à la française " "fonne " pour Phon ou " fetchaboune " pour Petchabun;
Je m' attendais à plusieurs parcours.. En fait il n'y en a qu'un avec 3 minutes pour sa copine fonctionnaire/prof de danse et 3 autres minutes, même pas d'ailleurs, pour la nana/katoye qui bosse comme hôtesse dans un bus VIP .
J' ai adoré les quelques mots prononcés par son " mari ", le conducteur du bus..qui dit qu'elle se comporte mieux qu'une vraie femme; elle fait la cuisine, la lessive.. Ça en dit long en très peu de mots sur le comportement des jeunes nanas thaïlandaise. 😛😛 et bien entendu sur le machisme du thaï masculin .😠
Pour faire bref, je reste sur ma faim de connaissance; je n' ai strictement rien appris .
Pour le reste, de bien belles images de Bangkok sous la pluie ...😏
Le socialisme ne peut fonctionner qu’au paradis où il n’est pas utile, et en enfer où ils l’ont déjà
Franklenfant je te trouve très sévère, j'ai beaucoup aimé le reportage, plein de finesse et de subtilité. Pour toi qui vis en Thaïlande cela n'a peut-être pas beaucoup de sens mais pour des européens qui ne sont jamais allés en Thaïlande, cela donne une autre image du pays. Même moi qui passe 2 à 3 fois par an par la Thaïlande j'ai adoré le reportage, que j'ai trouvé touchant ( je ne suis pas un fan de la Tv pourtant)
Cordialement,
DUC
le premier talent reste celui de ses Sujets, , dont l'humanité laisse sans voix leurs r😛illeurs et livre un peu plus de leur "Beau secret" à ceux, que je veux croire plus n😎mbreux, qui les aiment d'instinct fraternel.
En fait, le titre originel du documentaire Eine zweite Art von Frau: Thailand, das dritte Geschlecht, un second genre de femme (traduit directement du thai "sao praphaet song" ) : Thailande, le 3eme sexe, était plus explicite que "lady boys". Je retiendrai particulièrement les paroles sensées de Mee Mee Tao : " J'ai appris à ne jamais vouloir posséder quelqu'un ni quelque chose, [...] rien ni personne ne peut nous appartenir car il n'y a rien qui ne dure à jamais [...] Je ne peux pas être déçue si je ne convoite rien" Ou sa simple conclusion : "le sexe n'a pas d'importance, ce qui importe est que je sois fidèle à moi-même". En ce sens, ses réflexions sont proches de n'importe quelle femme dans un monde d'hommes. Transposez ces mots dans le domaine professionnel, ou même celui des voyages solo dans lesquels on parle de parité même si on en est bien loin, ici ou là-bas. Je ne sais pas s'il faut parler de fraternité mais si le documentaire avait pour but de nous apporter un regard empathique sur le droit à la différence, pari gagné.
En fait, le titre originel du documentaire Eine zweite Art von Frau: Thailand, das dritte Geschlecht, un second genre de femme (traduit directement du thai "sao praphaet song" ) : Thailande, le 3eme sexe, était plus explicite que "lady boys". Je retiendrai particulièrement les paroles sensées de Mee Mee Tao : " J'ai appris à ne jamais vouloir posséder quelqu'un ni quelque chose, [...] rien ni personne ne peut nous appartenir car il n'y a rien qui ne dure à jamais [...] Je ne peux pas être déçue si je ne convoite rien" Ou sa simple conclusion : "le sexe n'a pas d'importance, ce qui importe est que je sois fidèle à moi-même". En ce sens, ses réflexions sont proches de n'importe quelle femme dans un monde d'hommes. Transposez ces mots dans le domaine professionnel, ou même celui des voyages solo dans lesquels on parle de parité même si on en est bien loin, ici ou là-bas. Je ne sais pas s'il faut parler de fraternité mais si le documentaire avait pour but de nous apporter un regard empathique sur le droit à la différence, pari gagné.
fraternité
Ce mot a été tant galvaudé que j'en suis venu à lui préférer "altérité". D'autant que la la fraternité restera toujours masculine. La langue étant un instrument d'asservissement...
Ce mot a été tant galvaudé que j'en suis venu à lui préférer "altérité". D'autant que la la fraternité restera toujours masculine. La langue étant un instrument d'asservissement...
le premier talent reste celui de ses Sujets, , dont l'humanité laisse sans voix leurs r😛illeurs et livre un peu plus de leur "Beau secret" à ceux, que je veux croire plus n😎mbreux, qui les aiment d'instinct fraternel.
En fait, le titre originel du documentaire Eine zweite Art von Frau: Thailand, das dritte Geschlecht, un second genre de femme (traduit directement du thai "sao praphaet song" ) : Thailande, le 3eme sexe, était plus explicite que "lady boys". Je retiendrai particulièrement les paroles sensées de Mee Mee Tao : " J'ai appris à ne jamais vouloir posséder quelqu'un ni quelque chose, [...] rien ni personne ne peut nous appartenir car il n'y a rien qui ne dure à jamais [...] Je ne peux pas être déçue si je ne convoite rien" Ou sa simple conclusion : "le sexe n'a pas d'importance, ce qui importe est que je sois fidèle à moi-même". En ce sens, ses réflexions sont proches de n'importe quelle femme dans un monde d'hommes. Transposez ces mots dans le domaine professionnel, ou même celui des voyages solo dans lesquels on parle de parité même si on en est bien loin, ici ou là-bas. Je ne sais pas s'il faut parler de fraternité mais si le documentaire avait pour but de nous apporter un regard empathique sur le droit à la différence, pari gagné.
Merci pour ce complément d'informations et ton regard de femme
intermède:
le ciné thaïlandais sait aussi traiter ces sujets avec délicatesse
La bande annonce de "It Gets Better"
https://youtu.be/wu_YGAQAKfI
En fait, le titre originel du documentaire Eine zweite Art von Frau: Thailand, das dritte Geschlecht, un second genre de femme (traduit directement du thai "sao praphaet song" ) : Thailande, le 3eme sexe, était plus explicite que "lady boys". Je retiendrai particulièrement les paroles sensées de Mee Mee Tao : " J'ai appris à ne jamais vouloir posséder quelqu'un ni quelque chose, [...] rien ni personne ne peut nous appartenir car il n'y a rien qui ne dure à jamais [...] Je ne peux pas être déçue si je ne convoite rien" Ou sa simple conclusion : "le sexe n'a pas d'importance, ce qui importe est que je sois fidèle à moi-même". En ce sens, ses réflexions sont proches de n'importe quelle femme dans un monde d'hommes. Transposez ces mots dans le domaine professionnel, ou même celui des voyages solo dans lesquels on parle de parité même si on en est bien loin, ici ou là-bas. Je ne sais pas s'il faut parler de fraternité mais si le documentaire avait pour but de nous apporter un regard empathique sur le droit à la différence, pari gagné.
Merci pour ce complément d'informations et ton regard de femme
intermède:
le ciné thaïlandais sait aussi traiter ces sujets avec délicatesse
La bande annonce de "It Gets Better"
https://youtu.be/wu_YGAQAKfI
Bonsoir Barefoot,
Khrap de votre intérêt (il semble que j'ai laissé votre "binôbeo" sans voix, à moins qu'il ne me juge pas digne de Son <AMHA"? enfin soit, po grave hein*)
En fait, le titre originel du documentaire Eine zweite Art von Frau: Thailand, das dritte Geschlech
A vos souhaits !
Je retiendrai particulièrement les paroles sensées de Mee Mee Tao : " J'ai appris à ne jamais vouloir posséder quelqu'un ni quelque chose, [...] rien ni personne ne peut nous appartenir car il n'y a rien qui ne dure à jamais [...] Je ne peux pas être déçue si je ne convoite rien" Ou sa simple conclusion : "le sexe n'a pas d'importance, ce qui importe est que je sois fidèle à moi-même".
Woaw, vous avez visionné le Docu avec un carnet sous la main ou bien??!! Anyway, ces mots cités me touchent comme ils vous touchent, merci de les rapporter Ici.
Je ne sais pas s'il faut parler de fraternité mais si le documentaire avait pour but de nous apporter un regard empathique sur le droit à la différence, pari gagné.
Perso, je persiste et signe: . Le , pour moi, coule de source, ceux qui ne Le reconnaissent po suscitent ma compassion.
Bonne continuation sur ce ^^#!&=% de f😉rum.
PâneL30.
* perso, ne serait-ce que par élémentaire civilité, pardon pour le gros mot, je réponds toujours à un message qui m'est adressé pseudonymement, à bon entendeur: 😛.
Khrap de votre intérêt (il semble que j'ai laissé votre "binôbeo" sans voix, à moins qu'il ne me juge pas digne de Son <AMHA"? enfin soit, po grave hein*)
En fait, le titre originel du documentaire Eine zweite Art von Frau: Thailand, das dritte Geschlech
A vos souhaits !
Je retiendrai particulièrement les paroles sensées de Mee Mee Tao : " J'ai appris à ne jamais vouloir posséder quelqu'un ni quelque chose, [...] rien ni personne ne peut nous appartenir car il n'y a rien qui ne dure à jamais [...] Je ne peux pas être déçue si je ne convoite rien" Ou sa simple conclusion : "le sexe n'a pas d'importance, ce qui importe est que je sois fidèle à moi-même".
Woaw, vous avez visionné le Docu avec un carnet sous la main ou bien??!! Anyway, ces mots cités me touchent comme ils vous touchent, merci de les rapporter Ici.
Je ne sais pas s'il faut parler de fraternité mais si le documentaire avait pour but de nous apporter un regard empathique sur le droit à la différence, pari gagné.
Perso, je persiste et signe: . Le , pour moi, coule de source, ceux qui ne Le reconnaissent po suscitent ma compassion.
Bonne continuation sur ce ^^#!&=% de f😉rum.
PâneL30.
* perso, ne serait-ce que par élémentaire civilité, pardon pour le gros mot, je réponds toujours à un message qui m'est adressé pseudonymement, à bon entendeur: 😛.
* votre réponse (message N°36) pour moi étant juste une remarque sur le professionnalisme de la réalisatrice, je ne voyais pas l'utilité d'allonger inutilement, surtout que vous ne posiez aucune question appelant une réponse
perso, ne serait-ce que par élémentaire civilité, pardon pour le gros mot, je réponds toujours à un message qui m'est adressé pseudonymement, à bon entendeur
Bonjour Vous en êtes vraiment sur ? voyageforum.com/...post=7812591#7812591
*edit pour garder la lisibilité de ce fil fort intéressant, fin du HS en ce qui me concerne car vous remarquerez que cela ne fait qu'attirer les mouches du coche
perso, ne serait-ce que par élémentaire civilité, pardon pour le gros mot, je réponds toujours à un message qui m'est adressé pseudonymement, à bon entendeur
Bonjour Vous en êtes vraiment sur ? voyageforum.com/...post=7812591#7812591
*edit pour garder la lisibilité de ce fil fort intéressant, fin du HS en ce qui me concerne car vous remarquerez que cela ne fait qu'attirer les mouches du coche
perso, ne serait-ce que par élémentaire civilité, pardon pour le gros mot, je réponds toujours à un message qui m'est adressé pseudonymement, à bon entendeur
Bonjour Vous en êtes vraiment sur ? voyageforum.com/...post=7812591#7812591
pour garder la lisibilité de ce fil fort intéressant, fin du HS en ce qui me concerne
vous n'avez posé aucune question pourquoi vouloir obtenir une réponse
j'ai une question pour ma part, comment expliqué le nombre incroyable de LB dans ce pays? c'est unique au monde, phénomène de mode? culturel?
Bonjour Vous en êtes vraiment sur ? voyageforum.com/...post=7812591#7812591
pour garder la lisibilité de ce fil fort intéressant, fin du HS en ce qui me concerne
vous n'avez posé aucune question pourquoi vouloir obtenir une réponse
j'ai une question pour ma part, comment expliqué le nombre incroyable de LB dans ce pays? c'est unique au monde, phénomène de mode? culturel?
j'ai une question pour ma part, comment expliqué le nombre incroyable de LB dans ce pays?
c'est unique au monde, phénomène de mode? culturel?
Bonjour Freddy !
J'ai surtout remarqué, qu'il y en a de plus en plus dans les villes où il y a beaucoup de touristes ainsi que dans les salons de massages...
Probablement une questions d'offres ou de demandes, illes essaient de pénétrer le marché et la vie est moins dure pour eux...
Bref, rien ne vaut une bonne saucisse, mais à table et en bonne compagnie.
Bon Appétit et continuation à Tous !
Bonjour Freddy !
J'ai surtout remarqué, qu'il y en a de plus en plus dans les villes où il y a beaucoup de touristes ainsi que dans les salons de massages...
Probablement une questions d'offres ou de demandes, illes essaient de pénétrer le marché et la vie est moins dure pour eux...
Bref, rien ne vaut une bonne saucisse, mais à table et en bonne compagnie.
Bon Appétit et continuation à Tous !
" La Liberté, si elle est illimitée, conduit à son contraire, car si elle n'est pas protégée et restreinte par la Loi, la Liberté conduit nécessairement à la tyrannie du plus fort sur le plus faible " Karl Popper

Perso, je persiste et signe: . Le , pour moi, coule de source, ceux qui ne Le reconnaissent po suscitent ma compassion.
Bonne continuation sur ce ^^#!&=% de f😉rum.
PâneL30.
Bonjour Pânel !
Et moi, à mon humble avis, il va falloir changer de fourrage ou d'étalon(nage)...
Bon voyage et continuation à Tous !
PS - PerSo, entre les deux "parties" j'ai choisis mes rêves et ma façon de voyager... 😛
" La Liberté, si elle est illimitée, conduit à son contraire, car si elle n'est pas protégée et restreinte par la Loi, la Liberté conduit nécessairement à la tyrannie du plus fort sur le plus faible " Karl Popper
Comme je l'ai écrit, j'ai apprécié ce reportage subtil tout en nuances qui résume parfaitement le pays du sourire.Mais, le sujet me renvoie aussi à la publicité thaïe très inventive qui sait elle aussi évoquer cette population des katoyes avec humour.Je vous propose donc à tous de (re)visionner cette pub hilarante de nos amis thaïs:
https://youtu.be/pOp5QWhWiAw
thierry3468
j'ai une question pour ma part, comment expliqué le nombre incroyable de LB dans ce pays?
c'est unique au monde, phénomène de mode? culturel?
Pas unique au monde, en Indonésie aussi il y en a partout. Même dans les villages les plus reculés. Des types qui sont dockers le jour, femmes la nuit. Des mastards carrés comme des rugbymen vaguement maquillés. Mais aussi des LB beaucoup plus femmes (d'apparence), prostitués ou pas. En matière de chirurgie esthétique le bricolage fait parfois des ravages. On trouve aussi quelques trans qui ont réussi dans les affaires, mais moins qu'en Thaïlande à mon humble avis. Et puis la montée des islamistes n'aide pas ...
Pas unique au monde, en Indonésie aussi il y en a partout. Même dans les villages les plus reculés. Des types qui sont dockers le jour, femmes la nuit. Des mastards carrés comme des rugbymen vaguement maquillés. Mais aussi des LB beaucoup plus femmes (d'apparence), prostitués ou pas. En matière de chirurgie esthétique le bricolage fait parfois des ravages. On trouve aussi quelques trans qui ont réussi dans les affaires, mais moins qu'en Thaïlande à mon humble avis. Et puis la montée des islamistes n'aide pas ...
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In the novel, the country is called "Jidada, with a -da and another -da" (p.1); there’s no mistaking that this fictional state is Zimbabwe.
For *Glory*, her second novel, NoViolet Bulawayo invents a whole series of codes whose strength lies precisely in how easy they are to decipher. Like George Orwell’s Animal Farm, the characters populating Bulawayo’s universe aren’t humans but horses, goats, or crocodiles with all-too-human traits. Mugabe and Mnangagwa are horses, the spiritual leader is a pig, the soldiers are all bloodthirsty dogs, while the populace consists of goats, chickens, donkeys, and cats. The shift to the animal world serves only to better grasp the laws of despotism—and to ridicule real-life models. On one hand, the animals are humanized: they tweet, torture, travel in private jets. On the other, their greed, stupidity, and brutality stem from their animal nature.
It’s the old trick of fable: dressing men in animal disguises to make them easier to recognize. That’s how Orwell, in Animal Farm, traced how the promise of liberation from the Russian Revolution turned into Stalinist terror. In his 1945 fable, George Orwell describes how the animals of a farm drive out their farmer to organize the exploitation themselves, collectively. For a time, they truly taste freedom, but a clique of pigs ends up taking control. The central figures of the Soviet story—Stalin, Trotsky, Molotov—were easily recognizable.
Yet Bulawayo departs sharply from Orwell. She’s less concerned with precision and the force of argument than with satirical exaggeration. The deposed president is a senile old man who believes he can control even the sun’s course. The new stallion in power is a greedy debaucher. His soldiers sniff respectfully at his tail and backside.
In Bulawayo’s *Glory*, things are more complicated, but her novel also tells of a failed, incomplete liberation. In the author’s Animal Farm, Jidada, the colonial exploiters are followed by new forms of oppression. Because the former liberators become tyrants themselves. And because global power dynamics persist in neocolonial structures.
Wouldn’t that be enough to fuel a deeply depressing narrative? No—Bulawayo turns it into a blazing satire, full of wit and uncompromising criticism of power, a thread running through contemporary (not just) Zimbabwean history. The old warhorses in NoViolet Bulawayo’s Jidada, who continue to act as pack leaders, are easily recognizable as caricatures of the longtime dictator Robert Mugabe and his successor, current president Emmerson Mnangagwa.
The plot kicks off in high gear with independence day festivities. From the crack of dawn, everyone waits on Jidada Square for the Old Horse, the Father of the Nation and former liberator, whose reign "was nearing all of—not one, not two, not three, but four solid decades" (p.1). Everywhere, the colors of the Jidada Party shine; everywhere, true supporters cheer. Even the scorching sun plays its part: "At this point the sun, upon seeing arrive the leader who was decreed by God himself to rule and rule and keep ruling, a leader who'd in turn decreed the very sun to head his cheerleading squad, took a deep, deep breath and thoroughly blazed to impress" (p.2).
Finally, the Old Horse’s luxury carriage approaches "with the slowness of a hearse" (p.2), and "hoping to catch a glimpse of the legendary Father of the Nation," which causes "the animals fell over themselves like intoxicated frogs" (p.2). The sovereign’s speech is delayed a moment longer: "what I really want is a nap," groans the Old Horse as he takes his seat with such care "like his backside was made of expensive porcelain" (p.6).
Meanwhile, Bulawayo parades his entourage: the president’s wife (who earns her doctorate at Jidada University faster than "you could say diss, for dissertation. Tholukuthi it was as easy as ordering from a KFC drive-through, or perhaps even easier being that it was cheaper than KFC; it in fact cost her nothing and the degree actually came with a zero-calorie Diet Coke and a purple straw" (p.41), and she’s now known as Dr Sweet Mother. The cabinet includes "the Minister of the Revolution, the Minister of Corruption, the Minister of Order, the Minister of Things, the Minister of Nothing, the Minister of Propaganda, the Minister of Homophobic Affairs, the Minister of Disinformation and the Minister of Looting" (p.9). And of course the vice-president, who will soon become interim president when the Old Horse finally kicks the bucket—and then settle in as the new long-term president, who in the novel is called Tuvius Delight Shasha, or "Tuvy" for short (p.253), none other than Emmerson Mnangagwa. It’s him Bulawayo reserves her most merciless character description for.
"New Dispensation" (p.109) is Tuvy’s slogan for Jidada, and he loves repeating it so much he even named his parrot after it ("So inspired was Tuvy by the realisation that he rechristened his new pet parrot with the name New Dispensation—tholukuthi the bird having been acquired explicitly for the purposes of tweeting eulogies and accordingly glorifying the Saviour throughout the airs and skies of the nation. Tuvy then went on to hire a lecturer in English from the University of Jidada to teach New Dispensation to say the phrase 'New Dispensation'" p.110). But Tuvy’s Zimbabwe remains a nation without free, fair, and credible elections ("#freefairncredibleelection" p.161), and the promised equal treatment applies only insofar as Zimbabweans now queue up without discrimination in endless lines—and everyone is as poor as the next in the "queuenation" (p.283). Except for the powerful. They can "yes, tholukuthi, her immeasurable riches theirs to take. And take they did—
just take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take" (p.249-250).
In short: Bulawayo brilliantly depicts how former independence fighters become exploiters themselves. And how the country threatens to suffocate under the weight of corruption and repression. But she also literally stages the polyphony with which the people oppose imposed obedience to the official line.
Controversial online discussions keep interrupting the narrative—dialogues and social threads (see photo below) that Bulawayo masterfully integrates. From a literary standpoint, it’s a brilliant idea. And it shows, above all, that the author’s sympathy—so likeable—goes to all those who refuse to let their dream of true freedom be stolen, not even by the corrupt elites of their own country.
In the book’s acknowledgments, the first tribute goes to "The Jidadas of the world, clamouring for freedom on many fronts—A luta continua." (p.401) This reflects the realization that, not only in Jidada-Zimbabwe but in many other corners of the world, the end of colonial domination is still far from meaning the freedom hoped for by the vast majority of people. But it also means, more broadly, that this freedom must be won "on many fronts" (see above), both domestically and geopolitically.
That’s precisely what *Glory* so vividly highlights: how complex the project behind the term "postcolonialism" really is. With *Glory*, Bulawayo also delivers a scathing critique of the persistence of colonial mindsets in the West.
In the novel, the murder of George Floyd, racist police violence, and white-supremacist ideology in Trump’s United States perfectly illustrate the persistence of racism. It’s especially in the final chapters that Bulawayo lets Jidada’s inhabitants explicitly and unflinchingly criticize a neocolonial world order:
"It was not lost on us how the West, which loved to 'save' Africa and announce every action to the whole world, did so with one limb while manipulating, looting and fleecing us with the rest of its limbs so that more money in fact poured out of the continent than trickled in." (p.376)
"It was no mistake that multinational corporations yearly reaped and shipped colossal profits from Africa back to their countries as had been the case during colonial times. Even the sticks and stones would tell you that the African earth at any given time howled and shook and heaved from the extraction of its precious minerals that rarely benefited its own miserable children." (p.376)
"(...) we vowed to wage yet another war for Africa's second Liberation from neocolonial oppression. From exploitation. From plunder. From Western dominion. From indignity. From Abuse. We wanted real freedom. We wanted greedy, thieving paws off our wealth. We wanted Justice. We wanted a new world; we wanted a brand-new world so much we didn't sleep a wink that night." (p.377)
The Jidadas of this world must fight two enemies: Western neocolonialism and the autocratic instrumentalization of that argument; the persistence of Western racism and the populist appropriation of that humiliation by tyrants from their own ranks. Neither of these obstacles to freedom diminishes the historical and current guilt of the other. But the path to postcolonial liberation must overcome all these forms of oppression. After all, the colonizers didn’t bequeath democracies to formerly dominated nations, but instability and the principles of oppression and exploitation—which the so-called liberators have also internalized. Yet the fact that a satirical novel can capture the complexity of historical relationships while remaining, despite all the darkness of the subject, hilarious—well, that’s truly astonishing.
Finally, *Glory* ties into a major trauma in Zimbabwe’s post-independence history: the so-called Gukurahundi massacres. Between 1983 and 1987, tens of thousands of civilians were murdered by Mugabe’s bloody henchmen, most of them Ndebele. The State Security Minister and head of secret services at the time? You guessed it—Emmerson Mnangagwa.
When *Glory* turns to the massacres, the novel’s tone shifts completely. The story is now told through the narrative of the goat called Destiny, who, like NoViolet Bulawayo herself, left her home country at 18 for the United States and only returned after 13 years. In the book, the city of Bulawayo becomes a village where Destiny retraces her family’s history—and learns that part of it was also brutally murdered during the massacres.
The abuse of power and life under a dictatorship, dispossession, and a fiercely proud awareness of the psychological wounds and emotional vulnerability of a uprooted and disenfranchised people who had to forge a new language—a new set of names—to express their lived experiences are at the heart of this wonderful Zimbabwean author’s literary work, NoViolet Bulawayo. Shortly after her studies, she was already writing short stories about postcolonial power dynamics in Africa. But her playful, masterful, and often unconventional approach to language also plays a key role in her work. With virtuosity, she shifts from cynical images of power-obsessed elites to compassionate descriptions of the people’s suffering, ending with a hopeful sermon on courage—the courage to break free from fear and thus gain the strength for change ("And every one of them understood that whatever they heard within those hearts was the new national anthem, tholukuthi an anthem that spoke of the kind of glory that burns eternal and glows with living light." p.400). This novel is a genuine pleasure to read. And it’s exceptional. Good, African...
Book info (original English and German translation):
NoViolet Bulawayo. Glory. Chatto & Windus, 2022. NoViolet Bulawayo. Glory. Suhrkamp, 2023.
Hery
The books (in English, in German)
Author NoViolet Bulawayo, Zimbabwe
Threads (p.164-165)
"Bulawayo leans into exaggeration and irony to tell hard truths. *Glory* is jam-packed with comedy and farce, poking fun at an autocratic regime while illustrating the absurdity and surreal nature of a police state." — The Guardian
The cruelty and savagery of Zimbabwe’s (and Africa’s in general) "powerful animals"
Zimbabwean author NoViolet Bulawayo has written a novel that illustrates better than any documentary the complexity of colonial legacy. In doing so, she revisits George Orwell’s Animal Farm. Her novel *Glory* is a political satire about Zimbabwe—and it’s brimming with humor.
For thirty years, Zimbabwe has been stagnating under Robert Mugabe’s presidency. Human rights violations, corruption, and international sanctions have kept the population mired in poverty and oppression, while the regime exploits the meager earnings of the economy. As the 2017 elections approach, a power struggle erupts over the succession of the very elderly Father of the Nation (Mugabe). On the streets, people hope for long-awaited reforms; the people feel their moment has come.
And indeed, the army ousts Mugabe and his wife—"with her Gucci heels" (p.32)—who was positioning herself for the presidency. Hopes are dashed, however. The generals install former vice-president Emmerson Mnangagwa in power; the regime merely changes faces, but the problems remain the same.
In the novel, the country is called "Jidada, with a -da and another -da" (p.1); there’s no mistaking that this fictional state is Zimbabwe.
For *Glory*, her second novel, NoViolet Bulawayo invents a whole series of codes whose strength lies precisely in how easy they are to decipher. Like George Orwell’s Animal Farm, the characters populating Bulawayo’s universe aren’t humans but horses, goats, or crocodiles with all-too-human traits. Mugabe and Mnangagwa are horses, the spiritual leader is a pig, the soldiers are all bloodthirsty dogs, while the populace consists of goats, chickens, donkeys, and cats. The shift to the animal world serves only to better grasp the laws of despotism—and to ridicule real-life models. On one hand, the animals are humanized: they tweet, torture, travel in private jets. On the other, their greed, stupidity, and brutality stem from their animal nature.
It’s the old trick of fable: dressing men in animal disguises to make them easier to recognize. That’s how Orwell, in Animal Farm, traced how the promise of liberation from the Russian Revolution turned into Stalinist terror. In his 1945 fable, George Orwell describes how the animals of a farm drive out their farmer to organize the exploitation themselves, collectively. For a time, they truly taste freedom, but a clique of pigs ends up taking control. The central figures of the Soviet story—Stalin, Trotsky, Molotov—were easily recognizable.
Yet Bulawayo departs sharply from Orwell. She’s less concerned with precision and the force of argument than with satirical exaggeration. The deposed president is a senile old man who believes he can control even the sun’s course. The new stallion in power is a greedy debaucher. His soldiers sniff respectfully at his tail and backside.
In Bulawayo’s *Glory*, things are more complicated, but her novel also tells of a failed, incomplete liberation. In the author’s Animal Farm, Jidada, the colonial exploiters are followed by new forms of oppression. Because the former liberators become tyrants themselves. And because global power dynamics persist in neocolonial structures.
Wouldn’t that be enough to fuel a deeply depressing narrative? No—Bulawayo turns it into a blazing satire, full of wit and uncompromising criticism of power, a thread running through contemporary (not just) Zimbabwean history. The old warhorses in NoViolet Bulawayo’s Jidada, who continue to act as pack leaders, are easily recognizable as caricatures of the longtime dictator Robert Mugabe and his successor, current president Emmerson Mnangagwa.
The plot kicks off in high gear with independence day festivities. From the crack of dawn, everyone waits on Jidada Square for the Old Horse, the Father of the Nation and former liberator, whose reign "was nearing all of—not one, not two, not three, but four solid decades" (p.1). Everywhere, the colors of the Jidada Party shine; everywhere, true supporters cheer. Even the scorching sun plays its part: "At this point the sun, upon seeing arrive the leader who was decreed by God himself to rule and rule and keep ruling, a leader who'd in turn decreed the very sun to head his cheerleading squad, took a deep, deep breath and thoroughly blazed to impress" (p.2).
Finally, the Old Horse’s luxury carriage approaches "with the slowness of a hearse" (p.2), and "hoping to catch a glimpse of the legendary Father of the Nation," which causes "the animals fell over themselves like intoxicated frogs" (p.2). The sovereign’s speech is delayed a moment longer: "what I really want is a nap," groans the Old Horse as he takes his seat with such care "like his backside was made of expensive porcelain" (p.6).
Meanwhile, Bulawayo parades his entourage: the president’s wife (who earns her doctorate at Jidada University faster than "you could say diss, for dissertation. Tholukuthi it was as easy as ordering from a KFC drive-through, or perhaps even easier being that it was cheaper than KFC; it in fact cost her nothing and the degree actually came with a zero-calorie Diet Coke and a purple straw" (p.41), and she’s now known as Dr Sweet Mother. The cabinet includes "the Minister of the Revolution, the Minister of Corruption, the Minister of Order, the Minister of Things, the Minister of Nothing, the Minister of Propaganda, the Minister of Homophobic Affairs, the Minister of Disinformation and the Minister of Looting" (p.9). And of course the vice-president, who will soon become interim president when the Old Horse finally kicks the bucket—and then settle in as the new long-term president, who in the novel is called Tuvius Delight Shasha, or "Tuvy" for short (p.253), none other than Emmerson Mnangagwa. It’s him Bulawayo reserves her most merciless character description for.
"New Dispensation" (p.109) is Tuvy’s slogan for Jidada, and he loves repeating it so much he even named his parrot after it ("So inspired was Tuvy by the realisation that he rechristened his new pet parrot with the name New Dispensation—tholukuthi the bird having been acquired explicitly for the purposes of tweeting eulogies and accordingly glorifying the Saviour throughout the airs and skies of the nation. Tuvy then went on to hire a lecturer in English from the University of Jidada to teach New Dispensation to say the phrase 'New Dispensation'" p.110). But Tuvy’s Zimbabwe remains a nation without free, fair, and credible elections ("#freefairncredibleelection" p.161), and the promised equal treatment applies only insofar as Zimbabweans now queue up without discrimination in endless lines—and everyone is as poor as the next in the "queuenation" (p.283). Except for the powerful. They can "yes, tholukuthi, her immeasurable riches theirs to take. And take they did—
just take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take—take" (p.249-250).
In short: Bulawayo brilliantly depicts how former independence fighters become exploiters themselves. And how the country threatens to suffocate under the weight of corruption and repression. But she also literally stages the polyphony with which the people oppose imposed obedience to the official line.
Controversial online discussions keep interrupting the narrative—dialogues and social threads (see photo below) that Bulawayo masterfully integrates. From a literary standpoint, it’s a brilliant idea. And it shows, above all, that the author’s sympathy—so likeable—goes to all those who refuse to let their dream of true freedom be stolen, not even by the corrupt elites of their own country.
In the book’s acknowledgments, the first tribute goes to "The Jidadas of the world, clamouring for freedom on many fronts—A luta continua." (p.401) This reflects the realization that, not only in Jidada-Zimbabwe but in many other corners of the world, the end of colonial domination is still far from meaning the freedom hoped for by the vast majority of people. But it also means, more broadly, that this freedom must be won "on many fronts" (see above), both domestically and geopolitically.
That’s precisely what *Glory* so vividly highlights: how complex the project behind the term "postcolonialism" really is. With *Glory*, Bulawayo also delivers a scathing critique of the persistence of colonial mindsets in the West.
In the novel, the murder of George Floyd, racist police violence, and white-supremacist ideology in Trump’s United States perfectly illustrate the persistence of racism. It’s especially in the final chapters that Bulawayo lets Jidada’s inhabitants explicitly and unflinchingly criticize a neocolonial world order:
"It was not lost on us how the West, which loved to 'save' Africa and announce every action to the whole world, did so with one limb while manipulating, looting and fleecing us with the rest of its limbs so that more money in fact poured out of the continent than trickled in." (p.376)
"It was no mistake that multinational corporations yearly reaped and shipped colossal profits from Africa back to their countries as had been the case during colonial times. Even the sticks and stones would tell you that the African earth at any given time howled and shook and heaved from the extraction of its precious minerals that rarely benefited its own miserable children." (p.376)
"(...) we vowed to wage yet another war for Africa's second Liberation from neocolonial oppression. From exploitation. From plunder. From Western dominion. From indignity. From Abuse. We wanted real freedom. We wanted greedy, thieving paws off our wealth. We wanted Justice. We wanted a new world; we wanted a brand-new world so much we didn't sleep a wink that night." (p.377)
The Jidadas of this world must fight two enemies: Western neocolonialism and the autocratic instrumentalization of that argument; the persistence of Western racism and the populist appropriation of that humiliation by tyrants from their own ranks. Neither of these obstacles to freedom diminishes the historical and current guilt of the other. But the path to postcolonial liberation must overcome all these forms of oppression. After all, the colonizers didn’t bequeath democracies to formerly dominated nations, but instability and the principles of oppression and exploitation—which the so-called liberators have also internalized. Yet the fact that a satirical novel can capture the complexity of historical relationships while remaining, despite all the darkness of the subject, hilarious—well, that’s truly astonishing.
Finally, *Glory* ties into a major trauma in Zimbabwe’s post-independence history: the so-called Gukurahundi massacres. Between 1983 and 1987, tens of thousands of civilians were murdered by Mugabe’s bloody henchmen, most of them Ndebele. The State Security Minister and head of secret services at the time? You guessed it—Emmerson Mnangagwa.
When *Glory* turns to the massacres, the novel’s tone shifts completely. The story is now told through the narrative of the goat called Destiny, who, like NoViolet Bulawayo herself, left her home country at 18 for the United States and only returned after 13 years. In the book, the city of Bulawayo becomes a village where Destiny retraces her family’s history—and learns that part of it was also brutally murdered during the massacres.
The abuse of power and life under a dictatorship, dispossession, and a fiercely proud awareness of the psychological wounds and emotional vulnerability of a uprooted and disenfranchised people who had to forge a new language—a new set of names—to express their lived experiences are at the heart of this wonderful Zimbabwean author’s literary work, NoViolet Bulawayo. Shortly after her studies, she was already writing short stories about postcolonial power dynamics in Africa. But her playful, masterful, and often unconventional approach to language also plays a key role in her work. With virtuosity, she shifts from cynical images of power-obsessed elites to compassionate descriptions of the people’s suffering, ending with a hopeful sermon on courage—the courage to break free from fear and thus gain the strength for change ("And every one of them understood that whatever they heard within those hearts was the new national anthem, tholukuthi an anthem that spoke of the kind of glory that burns eternal and glows with living light." p.400). This novel is a genuine pleasure to read. And it’s exceptional. Good, African...
Book info (original English and German translation):
NoViolet Bulawayo. Glory. Chatto & Windus, 2022. NoViolet Bulawayo. Glory. Suhrkamp, 2023.
Hery
The books (in English, in German)
Author NoViolet Bulawayo, Zimbabwe
Threads (p.164-165)“When the Whites came to Africa, we had the land and they had the Bible. They taught us to pray with our eyes closed: when we opened them, the Whites had the land and we had the Bible.” Jomo Kenyatta (p.7)
The Maggi cube, an unchallenged hegemony, and so much more
“The hopeless continent,” headlined The Economist, a British magazine, in July 2000 about Africa. Eleven years later, the same magazine headlined “Africa rising” instead. Images of Africa in the prosperous North constantly oscillate between apocalyptic scenarios and enthusiastic projections. A key issue with such images lies in the generalization they entail. If you look at the continent, considerable contrasts emerge depending on space and time. It’s no surprise that a region of the world encompassing such diverse ecological zones, maintaining such varied ties with other continents, comprising nearly fifty nation-states in sub-Saharan Africa alone, and characterized by a great diversity of languages, belief systems, and historical paths, doesn’t share a single destiny.
And yet, for many people outside Africa, as well as for many Africans, the continent constitutes a single entity, defined by criteria such as skin color, a colonial past, poverty, and the art of survival. Until now, these perspectives were generally accompanied by the idea that Africa had to—or should have—followed a single path together, sometimes called development, sometimes modernization, sometimes liberation, then a market economy. None of these paths delivered on their promises.
The two writers Alain Mabanckou and Abdourahman Waberi—one from Congo, the other raised in Djibouti, both long settled in France and now professors at renowned North American universities (Los Angeles, Washington)—have had enough of pessimistic scenarios: “We are aware that Africa is in the world and the world is in Africa. The same goes for all other continents, as our destinies are inextricably linked for better or worse. We refuse to see Africa as a reservoir of misfortunes or a continent cursed by atavistic misfortune and characterized by ethnic conflicts. [...] It’s this passionate flame we wanted to capture in a book [...] a kind of stroll through African cultures, without any demands, each letter of the alphabet leading us to a notion, a practice, a concept, a moment in history, literature, painting, politics, economics, cuisine, etc.” (p.10-11). Africa, they write, is on the verge of “imposing a signature, a style, a way of being in the world and in relation to the rest of the world.” (p.11) To put words to the continent’s diversity and dynamism, the two authors created a “rambling ABC,” a kind of portrait—or more precisely, a mythography—that lets you see and feel the pulse of a vast continent whose cultural power is unfolding before our eyes. Once marginalized or even mocked, the voice and importance of the Continent in global affairs are now undeniable” (p.11), containing over a hundred entries, mostly concise, written in a relaxed and casual style. The optimistic, even exuberant tone is set from the brief introduction. The duo of authors wants to “sing a love song to the cultures of our continent, to its inhabitants past and present, to its exceptional resources and its spectacular globalization despite a certain pollution that still clouds our skies due to the unmatched duration of dictatorships in some of our regions.” (p.12) In doing so, they don’t want to be too distracted by today’s Afewerki-Biya-Bongo-Déby & Co. ...
Of course, you’ll find tributes to great precursors like Frantz Fanon (“[...] it was a love story and admiration that wasn’t dimmed by the four decades separating his birth from ours. Let’s add that we were born while the native of Fort-de-France had left the world’s stage four years earlier, in the prime of life” p.141), Mongo Beti (“You must read and reread Mongo Beti, a genius who used his fame to support often just causes in Africa, like defending oppressed groups. His place is already in History. His oppressors, like the dictators Ahmadou Ahidjo and Paul Biya, can’t compete in the same category” p.64), the Malian Amadou Hampâté Bâ
(“Posterity remembers him mainly as an tireless defender of African cultures. His plea for the collection and preservation of traditional African knowledge remains a major event for all men and women of good will. One day in 1960, at the UNESCO podium, the native of Bandiagara sounded the alarm: ‘[...] Since we’ve admitted that the humanity of each people is the heritage of all humanity, if African traditions aren’t collected in time and written down, they’ll one day be missing from the universal archives of humanity.’” p.51),
Kwame Nkrumah, “one of the founders of Pan-Africanism, father of Ghana’s independence” (p.239), as well as the historian Cheikh Anta Diop, the writer, poet, and politician Aimé Césaire, and the economist and thinker Samir Amin, but also very warm tributes to certain contemporary African intellectuals like Souleymane Bachir Diagne and Achille Mbembe
(“A few years ago, in dominant economic circles, a rumor often resurfaced, usually disguised as a cold and scientifically proven analysis: Africa is useless. It’s a burden for the rest of the human community. With its 2% share in world trade, it would disappear from stock market radars without anyone noticing. So? Maybe it’ll be pulled up by other continents. Wanting to surpass itself is a crazy bet for Africans, they concluded. Arrogant or clueless, President Nicolas Sarkozy declared before an audience of students and teachers at Cheikh Anta Diop University in Dakar: ‘The African man hasn’t entered history enough [...] He only knows the eternal repetition of time marked by the endless repetition of the same gestures and words.’ That was in 2007. For decades, armed only with reason, an intellectual often steps up to debunk prejudices, lazy readings, and dishonest frameworks used as false fronts by those who, like Nicolas Sarkozy or former journalist Stephen Smith, out of ignorance, contempt, or condescension, distort African reality. This intellectual is none other than the historian and political scientist Achille Mbembe. This heir of Frantz Fanon, Amílcar Cabral, Jean-Marc Ela, and Fabien Eboussi-Boulaga was born in 1957 in Cameroon, in the Bassa region. Marked early by the upheavals of a fratricidal war, Achille Mbembe became the guardian of the memory of martyrs. After brilliant studies in Paris, he went on to teach at the best American universities, but the call of the Continent was stronger than anything else. In Dakar, he once directed CODESRIA (Council for the Development of Social Science Research in Africa) before joining the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa. Even though the author of *Critique of Black Reason* (Éditions La Découverte, 2015) spends a few months at Duke University in North Carolina, his observation post remains South Africa. From Johannesburg, Achille Mbembe scrutinizes Africa and the whole world. A lucid observer with an elegant and generous pen, Achille Mbembe knows how to blend big and small history: ‘I was born one day in July, as the month was drawing to a close. It was 1957, in that part of Africa recently named ‘Cameroon,’ a memory of the wonder that seized Portuguese sailors in the 15th century when, sailing up the river near Douala, they couldn’t help but note the presence of a multitude of crustaceans, and named it *Rio dos Camarões*, meaning ‘River of Shrimp.’ I grew up in the shadow of this nameless land, since, in a way, the name it bears is only the product of someone else’s astonishment: a lexical mistake, if you will.’ From this mistake or wound, he made leaven, a springboard to compose a rich work, recognized worldwide. To denounce barriers and barbarians too. But that’s not enough. Among his peers in circles of thought and action, Achille Mbembe passionately and consistently defends human dignity and the beauty of the world. In doing so, he fulfills the mission Frantz Fanon entrusted to him.” (p.227-229),
as well as entries dedicated to lesser-known artists and intellectuals, like the French journalist and activist Rokhaya Diallo, daughter of Senegalese and Gambian parents, or the Ethiopian filmmaker Haile Gerima, who has long lived in the United States. Other names from politics, sports, music, art, and literature: Kofi Annan, p.36; Barack Obama, p.243; Thomas Sankara, p.277; Ousmane Sow, p.285; Yambo Ouologuem, p.250; Léopold Sédar Senghor, p.282; Muhammad Ali, p.30; Nuruddin Farah, p.146; Salif Keita, p.203; Ahmadou Kourouma, p.206; Ngũgĩ wa Thiong’o, p.236; Winnie Mandela, p.224; Kylian Mbappé, p.226 ...
The authors, who resolutely commit to a “mythography” (p.11) of Africa, also pay special attention to local social movements, cultural events, and aspects of daily life. *Y’en a marre*, “which also meant ‘we’re fed up with sitting on our hands’” (p.320-321), emerged about a decade ago in Senegal as a citizen movement of peaceful resistance and symbolizes, the authors emphasize, the fact that African youth are increasingly fed up “with the political circus deployed in Africa since independence, as our parents would say, ‘since the White man left’...” (p.321). A full entry is dedicated to the Maggi bouillon cube, which has flooded African markets for about forty years and enjoys immense popularity (“It’s everywhere in Africa, from Dakar to Djibouti, and from Tangier to Cape Town. It’s in every pot, every stew. Little hands put it in every sauce, every local or adapted dish. An unchallenged hegemony! You’ll find it in diasporas too. The culinary strolls in Paris, in the [...] neighborhood” p.90). Critics blame it not only for impoverishing the aromatic diversity of local dishes but also for being harmful to health. And yet, “he poorest Africans, those who eat only once a day, a few spoonfuls of white beans and a ball of *foufou*, for example, are the most fervent users of the magic cube.” (p.92-93)
For *fonio*, “the new trendy cereal. [...] From the millet family, fonio is probably the oldest cereal cultivated in West Africa, and mainly in its sub-Saharan part, for millennia. [...] Easy to grow, water-efficient, fonio grows everywhere except on clay soils. Long neglected because it was considered the poor man’s crop, fonio is now a source of pride for the farmers who cultivate it and cherish it like the apple of their eye” (p.156-157), the authors immediately offer a detailed recipe, letting the reader know that “e can’t resist sharing this fonio with chicken recipe from Mali with you:
Ingredients: 1 chicken 3 large ripe red tomatoes 4 tbsp tomato paste 4 large onions 1 garlic clove 1/2 cup oil 2 Maggi cubes or salt 2 large carrots 1 turnip 1 large cabbage 2 large potatoes 1 celery stalk 1 packet pre-cooked fonio 4 okra (or okra powder) salt, pepper
Preparation: 1. Prepare the sauce: wash and cut the chicken. Peel the onions, garlic, and vegetables. 2. In a pot, fry the chicken pieces. 3. Dice the onions, tomatoes, carrots, and turnip very small and add them to the pot. 4. Add the tomato paste, salt, and pepper. 5. Simmer for 15 min, then add 2 L of water and the cooked chicken pieces. 6. Simmer for 30 min, then add the crushed garlic and celery, plus the cabbage cut into 4 and the potatoes cut in half. 7. Prepare the fonio: cover it with warm water, let it rest for 15 min, and cook it over low heat. 8. In a small pot, boil the okra and crush them. 9. Mix the crushed okra with the cooked fonio, then salt. Serve hot.” (p.158-159)
The comedy *Black Mic Mac*, released in French theaters in 1986 and addressing France’s increasingly restrictive immigration policy at the time, also gets an entry, as do *Tintin in the Congo*, the popular comic, and *Jip’s Café* (“[...] a little Africa in the heart of Paris, with passersby stopping to admire the ‘ambianceurs’ on the dance floor or attend the cultural events offered by the place” (p.194), an African establishment in Paris that Alain Mabanckou already immortalized in one of his novels.
The duo of authors also tackles thorny subjects like jihadism (p.119), the Rwandan genocide (p.272), the CFA franc (p.82), and dictatorship (p.110). While the two strike the right tone here, many entries leave a slightly bitter taste. Two examples: why doesn’t the text on Barack Obama mention the great disappointment of many people in Africa, who expected more from the African policy of the first U.S. president with African roots than just occasional warm words? Why do the comments on Winnie Mandela gloss over the fact that she was a highly controversial icon of the anti-apartheid movement due to her involvement in kidnappings, acts of torture, and murders of alleged apartheid collaborators? Instead, there’s a compassion that brings tears to the eyes: “She was often reduced to a secondary role, the wife of a great man” or “When victory came, she didn’t taste its fruits. Divorced, isolated. She would never be a ‘first lady’ in an evening gown, posing before a bed of chrysanthemums. They’d keep her far from the circles of power” (p.224-225). At this point, I would’ve liked the authors to take a slightly more critical stance...
That said, these “weaknesses” (if you can call them that) shouldn’t overshadow the book as a whole. It remains an informative, sometimes very entertaining, and often even original work in its own way.
Book information (the original French and the German translation):
Alain Mabanckou/Abdourahman Waberi. Dictionnaire enjoué des cultures africaines. Fayard, 2019. Alain Mabanckou/Abdourahman Waberi. Der Puls Afrikas. Eine Liebeserklärung von A bis Z. Reclam, 2022.
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The Maggi cube, an unchallenged hegemony, and so much more
“The hopeless continent,” headlined The Economist, a British magazine, in July 2000 about Africa. Eleven years later, the same magazine headlined “Africa rising” instead. Images of Africa in the prosperous North constantly oscillate between apocalyptic scenarios and enthusiastic projections. A key issue with such images lies in the generalization they entail. If you look at the continent, considerable contrasts emerge depending on space and time. It’s no surprise that a region of the world encompassing such diverse ecological zones, maintaining such varied ties with other continents, comprising nearly fifty nation-states in sub-Saharan Africa alone, and characterized by a great diversity of languages, belief systems, and historical paths, doesn’t share a single destiny.
And yet, for many people outside Africa, as well as for many Africans, the continent constitutes a single entity, defined by criteria such as skin color, a colonial past, poverty, and the art of survival. Until now, these perspectives were generally accompanied by the idea that Africa had to—or should have—followed a single path together, sometimes called development, sometimes modernization, sometimes liberation, then a market economy. None of these paths delivered on their promises.
The two writers Alain Mabanckou and Abdourahman Waberi—one from Congo, the other raised in Djibouti, both long settled in France and now professors at renowned North American universities (Los Angeles, Washington)—have had enough of pessimistic scenarios: “We are aware that Africa is in the world and the world is in Africa. The same goes for all other continents, as our destinies are inextricably linked for better or worse. We refuse to see Africa as a reservoir of misfortunes or a continent cursed by atavistic misfortune and characterized by ethnic conflicts. [...] It’s this passionate flame we wanted to capture in a book [...] a kind of stroll through African cultures, without any demands, each letter of the alphabet leading us to a notion, a practice, a concept, a moment in history, literature, painting, politics, economics, cuisine, etc.” (p.10-11). Africa, they write, is on the verge of “imposing a signature, a style, a way of being in the world and in relation to the rest of the world.” (p.11) To put words to the continent’s diversity and dynamism, the two authors created a “rambling ABC,” a kind of portrait—or more precisely, a mythography—that lets you see and feel the pulse of a vast continent whose cultural power is unfolding before our eyes. Once marginalized or even mocked, the voice and importance of the Continent in global affairs are now undeniable” (p.11), containing over a hundred entries, mostly concise, written in a relaxed and casual style. The optimistic, even exuberant tone is set from the brief introduction. The duo of authors wants to “sing a love song to the cultures of our continent, to its inhabitants past and present, to its exceptional resources and its spectacular globalization despite a certain pollution that still clouds our skies due to the unmatched duration of dictatorships in some of our regions.” (p.12) In doing so, they don’t want to be too distracted by today’s Afewerki-Biya-Bongo-Déby & Co. ...
Of course, you’ll find tributes to great precursors like Frantz Fanon (“[...] it was a love story and admiration that wasn’t dimmed by the four decades separating his birth from ours. Let’s add that we were born while the native of Fort-de-France had left the world’s stage four years earlier, in the prime of life” p.141), Mongo Beti (“You must read and reread Mongo Beti, a genius who used his fame to support often just causes in Africa, like defending oppressed groups. His place is already in History. His oppressors, like the dictators Ahmadou Ahidjo and Paul Biya, can’t compete in the same category” p.64), the Malian Amadou Hampâté Bâ
(“Posterity remembers him mainly as an tireless defender of African cultures. His plea for the collection and preservation of traditional African knowledge remains a major event for all men and women of good will. One day in 1960, at the UNESCO podium, the native of Bandiagara sounded the alarm: ‘[...] Since we’ve admitted that the humanity of each people is the heritage of all humanity, if African traditions aren’t collected in time and written down, they’ll one day be missing from the universal archives of humanity.’” p.51),
Kwame Nkrumah, “one of the founders of Pan-Africanism, father of Ghana’s independence” (p.239), as well as the historian Cheikh Anta Diop, the writer, poet, and politician Aimé Césaire, and the economist and thinker Samir Amin, but also very warm tributes to certain contemporary African intellectuals like Souleymane Bachir Diagne and Achille Mbembe
(“A few years ago, in dominant economic circles, a rumor often resurfaced, usually disguised as a cold and scientifically proven analysis: Africa is useless. It’s a burden for the rest of the human community. With its 2% share in world trade, it would disappear from stock market radars without anyone noticing. So? Maybe it’ll be pulled up by other continents. Wanting to surpass itself is a crazy bet for Africans, they concluded. Arrogant or clueless, President Nicolas Sarkozy declared before an audience of students and teachers at Cheikh Anta Diop University in Dakar: ‘The African man hasn’t entered history enough [...] He only knows the eternal repetition of time marked by the endless repetition of the same gestures and words.’ That was in 2007. For decades, armed only with reason, an intellectual often steps up to debunk prejudices, lazy readings, and dishonest frameworks used as false fronts by those who, like Nicolas Sarkozy or former journalist Stephen Smith, out of ignorance, contempt, or condescension, distort African reality. This intellectual is none other than the historian and political scientist Achille Mbembe. This heir of Frantz Fanon, Amílcar Cabral, Jean-Marc Ela, and Fabien Eboussi-Boulaga was born in 1957 in Cameroon, in the Bassa region. Marked early by the upheavals of a fratricidal war, Achille Mbembe became the guardian of the memory of martyrs. After brilliant studies in Paris, he went on to teach at the best American universities, but the call of the Continent was stronger than anything else. In Dakar, he once directed CODESRIA (Council for the Development of Social Science Research in Africa) before joining the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa. Even though the author of *Critique of Black Reason* (Éditions La Découverte, 2015) spends a few months at Duke University in North Carolina, his observation post remains South Africa. From Johannesburg, Achille Mbembe scrutinizes Africa and the whole world. A lucid observer with an elegant and generous pen, Achille Mbembe knows how to blend big and small history: ‘I was born one day in July, as the month was drawing to a close. It was 1957, in that part of Africa recently named ‘Cameroon,’ a memory of the wonder that seized Portuguese sailors in the 15th century when, sailing up the river near Douala, they couldn’t help but note the presence of a multitude of crustaceans, and named it *Rio dos Camarões*, meaning ‘River of Shrimp.’ I grew up in the shadow of this nameless land, since, in a way, the name it bears is only the product of someone else’s astonishment: a lexical mistake, if you will.’ From this mistake or wound, he made leaven, a springboard to compose a rich work, recognized worldwide. To denounce barriers and barbarians too. But that’s not enough. Among his peers in circles of thought and action, Achille Mbembe passionately and consistently defends human dignity and the beauty of the world. In doing so, he fulfills the mission Frantz Fanon entrusted to him.” (p.227-229),
as well as entries dedicated to lesser-known artists and intellectuals, like the French journalist and activist Rokhaya Diallo, daughter of Senegalese and Gambian parents, or the Ethiopian filmmaker Haile Gerima, who has long lived in the United States. Other names from politics, sports, music, art, and literature: Kofi Annan, p.36; Barack Obama, p.243; Thomas Sankara, p.277; Ousmane Sow, p.285; Yambo Ouologuem, p.250; Léopold Sédar Senghor, p.282; Muhammad Ali, p.30; Nuruddin Farah, p.146; Salif Keita, p.203; Ahmadou Kourouma, p.206; Ngũgĩ wa Thiong’o, p.236; Winnie Mandela, p.224; Kylian Mbappé, p.226 ...
The authors, who resolutely commit to a “mythography” (p.11) of Africa, also pay special attention to local social movements, cultural events, and aspects of daily life. *Y’en a marre*, “which also meant ‘we’re fed up with sitting on our hands’” (p.320-321), emerged about a decade ago in Senegal as a citizen movement of peaceful resistance and symbolizes, the authors emphasize, the fact that African youth are increasingly fed up “with the political circus deployed in Africa since independence, as our parents would say, ‘since the White man left’...” (p.321). A full entry is dedicated to the Maggi bouillon cube, which has flooded African markets for about forty years and enjoys immense popularity (“It’s everywhere in Africa, from Dakar to Djibouti, and from Tangier to Cape Town. It’s in every pot, every stew. Little hands put it in every sauce, every local or adapted dish. An unchallenged hegemony! You’ll find it in diasporas too. The culinary strolls in Paris, in the [...] neighborhood” p.90). Critics blame it not only for impoverishing the aromatic diversity of local dishes but also for being harmful to health. And yet, “he poorest Africans, those who eat only once a day, a few spoonfuls of white beans and a ball of *foufou*, for example, are the most fervent users of the magic cube.” (p.92-93)
For *fonio*, “the new trendy cereal. [...] From the millet family, fonio is probably the oldest cereal cultivated in West Africa, and mainly in its sub-Saharan part, for millennia. [...] Easy to grow, water-efficient, fonio grows everywhere except on clay soils. Long neglected because it was considered the poor man’s crop, fonio is now a source of pride for the farmers who cultivate it and cherish it like the apple of their eye” (p.156-157), the authors immediately offer a detailed recipe, letting the reader know that “e can’t resist sharing this fonio with chicken recipe from Mali with you:
Ingredients: 1 chicken 3 large ripe red tomatoes 4 tbsp tomato paste 4 large onions 1 garlic clove 1/2 cup oil 2 Maggi cubes or salt 2 large carrots 1 turnip 1 large cabbage 2 large potatoes 1 celery stalk 1 packet pre-cooked fonio 4 okra (or okra powder) salt, pepper
Preparation: 1. Prepare the sauce: wash and cut the chicken. Peel the onions, garlic, and vegetables. 2. In a pot, fry the chicken pieces. 3. Dice the onions, tomatoes, carrots, and turnip very small and add them to the pot. 4. Add the tomato paste, salt, and pepper. 5. Simmer for 15 min, then add 2 L of water and the cooked chicken pieces. 6. Simmer for 30 min, then add the crushed garlic and celery, plus the cabbage cut into 4 and the potatoes cut in half. 7. Prepare the fonio: cover it with warm water, let it rest for 15 min, and cook it over low heat. 8. In a small pot, boil the okra and crush them. 9. Mix the crushed okra with the cooked fonio, then salt. Serve hot.” (p.158-159)
The comedy *Black Mic Mac*, released in French theaters in 1986 and addressing France’s increasingly restrictive immigration policy at the time, also gets an entry, as do *Tintin in the Congo*, the popular comic, and *Jip’s Café* (“[...] a little Africa in the heart of Paris, with passersby stopping to admire the ‘ambianceurs’ on the dance floor or attend the cultural events offered by the place” (p.194), an African establishment in Paris that Alain Mabanckou already immortalized in one of his novels.
The duo of authors also tackles thorny subjects like jihadism (p.119), the Rwandan genocide (p.272), the CFA franc (p.82), and dictatorship (p.110). While the two strike the right tone here, many entries leave a slightly bitter taste. Two examples: why doesn’t the text on Barack Obama mention the great disappointment of many people in Africa, who expected more from the African policy of the first U.S. president with African roots than just occasional warm words? Why do the comments on Winnie Mandela gloss over the fact that she was a highly controversial icon of the anti-apartheid movement due to her involvement in kidnappings, acts of torture, and murders of alleged apartheid collaborators? Instead, there’s a compassion that brings tears to the eyes: “She was often reduced to a secondary role, the wife of a great man” or “When victory came, she didn’t taste its fruits. Divorced, isolated. She would never be a ‘first lady’ in an evening gown, posing before a bed of chrysanthemums. They’d keep her far from the circles of power” (p.224-225). At this point, I would’ve liked the authors to take a slightly more critical stance...
That said, these “weaknesses” (if you can call them that) shouldn’t overshadow the book as a whole. It remains an informative, sometimes very entertaining, and often even original work in its own way.
Book information (the original French and the German translation):
Alain Mabanckou/Abdourahman Waberi. Dictionnaire enjoué des cultures africaines. Fayard, 2019. Alain Mabanckou/Abdourahman Waberi. Der Puls Afrikas. Eine Liebeserklärung von A bis Z. Reclam, 2022.
Hery

Hi,
We’re going on a guided trip to South Africa. I’d love to know which guidebook is the most interesting: Routard, Lonely Planet, Michelin, Guide Vert, or Hachette’s Guide Voir.
Thanks so much for your advice. Marie
Hi, I'm looking for a good (digital) wildlife and bird guide for South Africa.
I'm planning a 2-month road trip through the parks and tourist spots.
I'm torn between *Duncan Butcher’s Wildlife of South Africa*, *Wildlife of Southern Africa Collins Traveller Guide*, and *Newman’s Birds Guide* for birds. Any other suggestions?! It can be in English, French, or Spanish! Thanks
I'm torn between *Duncan Butcher’s Wildlife of South Africa*, *Wildlife of Southern Africa Collins Traveller Guide*, and *Newman’s Birds Guide* for birds. Any other suggestions?! It can be in English, French, or Spanish! Thanks
During the 60s and 70s, thousands of travelers hit the road to India. Some were backpackers or hippies, but not all. In this collective anthology featuring around twenty contributors (including GeorgesOz), you’ll also find truth-seekers, a couple who went on their honeymoon to get married in Bengal... and "crazy" folks who set off on VéloSolex bikes...
Worth noting: all contributors donated their royalties to support the Céline Hegron clinic in a poor neighborhood of Varanasi.
Worth noting: all contributors donated their royalties to support the Céline Hegron clinic in a poor neighborhood of Varanasi.
Hi there,
I’m looking to watch films and series with my Thai girlfriend :-) I was wondering if you know of any sites where we can watch films or series in Thai or French with Thai or French subtitles ^^ We sometimes watch in English with English or Thai subtitles, but it’s quite hard for me ^^ I have to concentrate, and it’s not really enjoyable.
Thanks :-)
I’m looking to watch films and series with my Thai girlfriend :-) I was wondering if you know of any sites where we can watch films or series in Thai or French with Thai or French subtitles ^^ We sometimes watch in English with English or Thai subtitles, but it’s quite hard for me ^^ I have to concentrate, and it’s not really enjoyable.
Thanks :-)
Hi there,
Nice feature on the haenyeo and the gorgeous Jeju ❤️
South Korea: The Island of Women Divers | TF1 Info
Nice feature on the haenyeo and the gorgeous Jeju ❤️
South Korea: The Island of Women Divers | TF1 Info
Hi there,
I have a few GEO and Grands Reportages magazines in very good condition to give away. They date from 2006 to 2011.
If you're interested, please DM me.
I have a few GEO and Grands Reportages magazines in very good condition to give away. They date from 2006 to 2011.
If you're interested, please DM me.
Hi,
Could someone recommend a good book to help me recognize the animals I’ll come across in Namibia???
Thanks in advance! Tit&Lou
Departure planned for September 16, 2008!!
Could someone recommend a good book to help me recognize the animals I’ll come across in Namibia???
Thanks in advance! Tit&Lou
Departure planned for September 16, 2008!!
Hi,
I just finished reading Lettres de Barcelone by Caroline Leblanc. It's a collection of letters without a recipient that the author wrote during her 3 years of expatriation in Barcelona. So it's an inside look at the city, off the beaten path, even though the major tourist spots are also part of the scenery.
It's full of humor, very open to current events, the history of the city, Catalonia, and Spain. I really enjoyed it. 🙂
Hi there, I traveled to the Sultanate of Oman last January and had the book *Oman Off Road* in digital format in English, plus a second version in French. For anyone planning their trip, if this book interests you, don’t hesitate to reach out—it’s a real bible for off-the-beaten-path travel. Here’s my email for direct contact:
xavierpous@orange.fr
Or through Voyage Forum, which we’re always happy to use.
Take a step back, forget your bearings, and momentarily set aside the boxes we use to categorize life: humans on one side, animals on the other. Immerse yourself in that unsettling zone where man, stripped of his humanity, and the beast—capable of emotions and sensitivity—stand face to face.
Who is the predator, who is the prey? Where do fear, barbarism, or extreme violence lie, and where do compassion and philosophy reside?
In this book steeped in anthropomorphism, Stéphanie Artarit weaves a cruel plot and pushes the boundaries of darkness without ever wallowing in the grim or sordid.
A story of love and vengeance, of fierce beasts and humans, where the abominable, the unbearable, and the unthinkable are pierced by the candor and fragile luminosity of the heroine, Bambi, around whom (very) dark passions rage.
The action takes place in the Pyrenees in the mid-1970s. A dilapidated, isolated house, the theater of the unthinkable, where a shattered family ignored by social services lives—or survives: a missing father, a helpless mother, two degenerate twins, Sam and Valerien, a violent older brother, Martin, an absolute bastard, a dog... and a young adolescent, Bambi, the precarious pillar of this teetering balance. To escape this hopeless daily life, she regularly finds refuge in a nearby zoo. Caught during yet another sneaky visit, she is taken to the owner of the place, Noel Rivière, who, moved by her misery (and her ethereal, unreal beauty...), hires her as an apprentice.
This could have been the start of a fairy tale, redemption through love, the bastard permanently neutralized... and a breather for the reader.
But no.
The zoo serves as the backdrop for the second part of the story, which introduces new characters... a little girl, Feline, and a chimpanzee, Adam, placed in an isolated enclosure upon arrival because he was aggressive and unable to live among his own kind.
Humans with primitive animality, animals with astonishing humanity... a deranged, fierce, and heartbreaking Jungle Book. A noir novel with fluid, poetic writing.
A breathless read, almost devoured in one go (in two sittings) because it’s impossible to catch your breath before finding out how far the author will push the limits and what fate she has in store for her characters...
You Don’t Eat Cannibals Stéphanie ARTARIT Belfond Noir
In this book steeped in anthropomorphism, Stéphanie Artarit weaves a cruel plot and pushes the boundaries of darkness without ever wallowing in the grim or sordid.
A story of love and vengeance, of fierce beasts and humans, where the abominable, the unbearable, and the unthinkable are pierced by the candor and fragile luminosity of the heroine, Bambi, around whom (very) dark passions rage.
The action takes place in the Pyrenees in the mid-1970s. A dilapidated, isolated house, the theater of the unthinkable, where a shattered family ignored by social services lives—or survives: a missing father, a helpless mother, two degenerate twins, Sam and Valerien, a violent older brother, Martin, an absolute bastard, a dog... and a young adolescent, Bambi, the precarious pillar of this teetering balance. To escape this hopeless daily life, she regularly finds refuge in a nearby zoo. Caught during yet another sneaky visit, she is taken to the owner of the place, Noel Rivière, who, moved by her misery (and her ethereal, unreal beauty...), hires her as an apprentice.
This could have been the start of a fairy tale, redemption through love, the bastard permanently neutralized... and a breather for the reader.
But no.
The zoo serves as the backdrop for the second part of the story, which introduces new characters... a little girl, Feline, and a chimpanzee, Adam, placed in an isolated enclosure upon arrival because he was aggressive and unable to live among his own kind.
Humans with primitive animality, animals with astonishing humanity... a deranged, fierce, and heartbreaking Jungle Book. A noir novel with fluid, poetic writing.
A breathless read, almost devoured in one go (in two sittings) because it’s impossible to catch your breath before finding out how far the author will push the limits and what fate she has in store for her characters...
You Don’t Eat Cannibals Stéphanie ARTARIT Belfond Noir
Hi there,
Planning a trip to AOTEAROA in Feb 2026, I’m starting to gather info.
After several attempts searching in local bookshops and online, it seems this guide is no longer published—meaning it’s impossible to find a new French copy.
You can find used ones online, but only in English...
Lonely Planet has released a new "version" of their New Zealand guide, but it’s not really a "Guide" anymore—it’s called "Best Itineraries."
So, my question: Does anyone have a French-language Lonely Planet New Zealand guide from a not-too-old edition? For sale second-hand?
Or
Any recommendations for another guidebook-style book from a different publisher?
Thanks in advance!
Claude
So, my question: Does anyone have a French-language Lonely Planet New Zealand guide from a not-too-old edition? For sale second-hand?
Or
Any recommendations for another guidebook-style book from a different publisher?
Thanks in advance!
Claude
Mountain chronicle from the Hautes Vosges radio station. The last broadcast before summer. It won’t be about long-distance hiking or alpine feats, but rather an equally astonishing adventure that involved thousands of airmen supplying China as it fought against Japan during World War II: the air bridge over the Himalayas.
https://www.resonance-fm.com/podcast/2706%20chronique%20montagne%20The%20Hump%20la%20liaison%20a%C3%A9rienne%20Inde%20Chine%20au%20dessus%20de%20l'Himalaya%20.MP3
https://www.resonance-fm.com/podcast/2706%20chronique%20montagne%20The%20Hump%20la%20liaison%20a%C3%A9rienne%20Inde%20Chine%20au%20dessus%20de%20l'Himalaya%20.MP3
It seems like it's hard to find the book *Compagnon de Safari*, which is a guide to the wildlife of Namibia and Botswana.
Actually, you can order it directly from the author, Caroline Oriol.
http://guide-faune.voyage-namibie.fr/
It’s quick—you’ll get it by mail in 2 days! !
It’s quick—you’ll get it by mail in 2 days! !
Hi there,
As a follow-up to the exhibition "Royal Bronzes of Angkor" organized by the Guimet Museum (Paris), France 5 is airing a documentary called "Angkor, The Mystery of the Bronze Temples."
You can already watch it on replay.
https://www.france.tv/documentaires/documentaires-science/7241768-angkor-le-mystere-des-temples-de-bronze.html
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Sometimes a trip, a desire to travel, a travel dream... begins between the pages of a book.
These three invite you to Scotland, on the Isle of Lewis. And although they’re published by Babel Noir, Actes Sud’s collection dedicated to crime novels with a dark atmosphere, and even though each book features a crime to solve, these three stories go far beyond the genre.
The central character, Fin, a man who wasn’t gifted with lightness or whimsy at birth, used to be a cop. He isn’t anymore, having left the police after a personal tragedy... A crime with a modus operandi similar to a case he was handling brings him back to Lewis... He’ll stay there. Because the time seems right for him to retrace the steps of his own story... a story deeply rooted in this land of melancholic geography, this island battered and rebattered by the winds, frozen in the past, where beliefs and traditions endure, defying time.
This austere island where his tender years were bruised. This harsh land that closes in on the dead... and returns them to the living years later, when the time seems right for them to put their childhood to rest, by facing the figures and ghosts that once crossed it.
Past and present intertwine, the memories of one explaining and perhaps unraveling the shadows of the other... and it’s only by confronting the darkness that he’ll find a strength he didn’t know he had, one that may—likely will—help him overcome the unspeakable.
In each book, Peter May, like a historian and anthropologist rolled into one, explores a page of the past, highlighting some of Scotland’s darker chapters: the omnipresence of religion, the conflict between Protestants and Catholics, the rituals marking the passage into adulthood, the terrible fate of orphans... the shadowy corners of the human soul.
A poetic, dense, and minimalist writing style that cuts to the essence, with just the right words to describe childhood, solitude, second chances—those who offer them and those who seize them—the weight of things... and happiness sometimes so close yet not always allowed to be grasped.
Three intense stories set in the same landscape: nature ever-present, the icy dampness, the slippery machair, the dry peat that fuels the fires... and Gaelic, that language with its harsh, guttural, rugged sounds?... which isn’t pronounced exactly as it’s written.
Peter May The Scottish Trilogy, Complete edition by Éditions du Rouergue Or In paperback, Actes Sud publisher, Babel Noir collection 1/ The Blackhouse 2/ The Lewis Man 3/ The Chessmen
The central character, Fin, a man who wasn’t gifted with lightness or whimsy at birth, used to be a cop. He isn’t anymore, having left the police after a personal tragedy... A crime with a modus operandi similar to a case he was handling brings him back to Lewis... He’ll stay there. Because the time seems right for him to retrace the steps of his own story... a story deeply rooted in this land of melancholic geography, this island battered and rebattered by the winds, frozen in the past, where beliefs and traditions endure, defying time.
This austere island where his tender years were bruised. This harsh land that closes in on the dead... and returns them to the living years later, when the time seems right for them to put their childhood to rest, by facing the figures and ghosts that once crossed it.
Past and present intertwine, the memories of one explaining and perhaps unraveling the shadows of the other... and it’s only by confronting the darkness that he’ll find a strength he didn’t know he had, one that may—likely will—help him overcome the unspeakable.
In each book, Peter May, like a historian and anthropologist rolled into one, explores a page of the past, highlighting some of Scotland’s darker chapters: the omnipresence of religion, the conflict between Protestants and Catholics, the rituals marking the passage into adulthood, the terrible fate of orphans... the shadowy corners of the human soul.
A poetic, dense, and minimalist writing style that cuts to the essence, with just the right words to describe childhood, solitude, second chances—those who offer them and those who seize them—the weight of things... and happiness sometimes so close yet not always allowed to be grasped.
Three intense stories set in the same landscape: nature ever-present, the icy dampness, the slippery machair, the dry peat that fuels the fires... and Gaelic, that language with its harsh, guttural, rugged sounds?... which isn’t pronounced exactly as it’s written.
Peter May The Scottish Trilogy, Complete edition by Éditions du Rouergue Or In paperback, Actes Sud publisher, Babel Noir collection 1/ The Blackhouse 2/ The Lewis Man 3/ The Chessmen
Tonight on Channel 5
Échappées belles in SENEGAL
https://television.telerama.fr/tele/magazine/echappees-belles,6640,emission162356169.php
https://television.telerama.fr/tele/magazine/echappees-belles,6640,emission162356169.php
Hi there,
I’m looking for links to the five episodes of the excellent 2014 France Culture podcast series called Pages from Nicolas Bouvier’s *The Way to the Orient*.
The episodes are: 1) Belgrade, 2) Tehran, 3) Afghanistan, 4) Ceylon, 5) Japan.
Unfortunately, they’re no longer available on France Culture.
Here’s the (expired) link to episode 1: https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceculture/podcasts/fictions-le-feuilleton/belgrade-9795251.
Maybe someone on this forum has downloaded these episodes or shared them on other platforms—like a blog, social media, or elsewhere.
Thanks so much in advance for any help!
Aude
For the kids and/or for us, do you have any good book recommendations for identifying and learning about the animals of Namibia (or Southern Africa)?
Hello to all travel lovers!
I'm leaving for several weeks to accompany groups in Namibia (I'm over the moon). It's a country I know because I've already spent three months there.
I'll be talking about culture, geography, history... but I'd also like to see my "clients" touched by the wildlife, maybe more specifically the birds. Unfortunately, I'm a lousy ornithologist.
:-p
So, if you could recommend a book on the world of birds we're about to see, that would be... awesome!
For those who are on the same journey as me and to avoid duplicates, here are the ones I've found (but haven't bought yet):
- *Compagnon de safari* by Oriol (2003) ??
- *Les oiseaux de l'ouest africain* by Serle and Morel (2005) ??
- *Guide des mammifères d'Afrique* by Kingdom (2013) ?? (No, birds aren't mammals!!)
- And then... that's not much 😕
Haven't found anything specific to Namibia.
So there you go, thank you all, and I wish you a very happy journey too!
I rarely post on the forum, but I've talked (well... written) a lot. Thanks for your attention! :-)
Nathaniel. (For those interested, I could share the link to photos from my previous trips.)
Beace!
I rarely post on the forum, but I've talked (well... written) a lot. Thanks for your attention! :-)
Nathaniel. (For those interested, I could share the link to photos from my previous trips.)
Beace!
In this charming open-air library, I came across a novel by Perumal Murugan, a Tamil writer and professor of Tamil literature, sometimes controversial because he’s accused of advocating too strongly for women’s rights.
It’s a harsh novel about love and caste. The love between Kumaresan and Saroja in today’s rural India.
The title: *The Pyre*(A belated tribute on this forum)
Abdulrazak Gurnah, an author with a unique journey and identity (Tanzania)
Big surprise in Stockholm: the 2021 Nobel Prize in Literature was awarded to novelist Abdulrazak Gurnah. The Tanzanian author, who writes in English, is best known for his novels Paradise (1994) and By the Sea (2001). He was recognized for his "uncompromising and compassionate portrayal of the effects of colonialism and the fate of refugees caught between cultures and continents", according to the Nobel Committee.His work moves away from "stereotypical descriptions and opens our eyes to a culturally diverse East Africa that is little known in many parts of the world".
Gurnah is the first African author since 2003 to win the prestigious prize, and the fifth from the African continent overall—following Wole Soyinka (1986), Naguib Mahfouz (1988), Nadine Gordimer (1991), and J.M. Coetzee (2003). Once again, the prize passed over Kenyan Ngugi wa Thiong’o, who has long been among the favorites for the award.
Born in Zanzibar (now part of Tanzania) in 1948, Abdulrazak Gurnah grew up in an Arab family originally from Yemen. He sought refuge in the UK in the late 1960s, a few years after independence, at a time when the Muslim minority there was being persecuted. He wasn’t able to return to Zanzibar until 1984.
Since 1987, he has published around ten novels and several short stories in English (his native language is Swahili). None have become bestsellers, but his body of work as a whole offers a different perspective on issues like immigration and cultural diversity. His work sheds light on the effects of colonialism, exile, and the plight of refugees, "speaking" of his love for Africa and his fight against neocolonialism. Though Gurnah’s stories aren’t explicitly autobiographical, they’re inspired by his life as an immigrant in the UK.
Gurnah was also a professor of English and postcolonial literature at the University of Kent in Canterbury until his recent retirement.
Does this award bring more attention to African literature? Who knows? At the very least, it might give it a boost. If African literature is less visible in the West, it’s partly because it isn’t widely accessible: Gurnah is rarely translated into French or German, and not at all into Arabic.
In Tanzania and its Zanzibar archipelago, he’s being celebrated with joy. "This means a lot for Zanzibar’s struggle for self-determination," says Ismail Jussa, a literary critic from Zanzibar. "It helps put Zanzibar back on the map." The Swedish Committee acknowledged that his work has helped understand "the divisions caused by colonialists, but also the heartbreak of being torn between the homeland one comes from and the life of exile one is forced into."
By the Sea. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2001 (Fr.: Près de la Mer. Galaade Éd., 2006)
Paradise. Bloomsbury Publishing, 1994/2004 (Fr.: Paradis. Motifs, 1999)
Desertion. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2005 (Fr.: Adieu Zanzibar. Galaade Éd., 2009)
Afterlives. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2020 (Fr.: Les vies d’après. Denoël, 2023)
Hery
Abdulrazak Gurnah, an author with a unique journey and identity (Tanzania)
Big surprise in Stockholm: the 2021 Nobel Prize in Literature was awarded to novelist Abdulrazak Gurnah. The Tanzanian author, who writes in English, is best known for his novels Paradise (1994) and By the Sea (2001). He was recognized for his "uncompromising and compassionate portrayal of the effects of colonialism and the fate of refugees caught between cultures and continents", according to the Nobel Committee.His work moves away from "stereotypical descriptions and opens our eyes to a culturally diverse East Africa that is little known in many parts of the world".
Gurnah is the first African author since 2003 to win the prestigious prize, and the fifth from the African continent overall—following Wole Soyinka (1986), Naguib Mahfouz (1988), Nadine Gordimer (1991), and J.M. Coetzee (2003). Once again, the prize passed over Kenyan Ngugi wa Thiong’o, who has long been among the favorites for the award.
Born in Zanzibar (now part of Tanzania) in 1948, Abdulrazak Gurnah grew up in an Arab family originally from Yemen. He sought refuge in the UK in the late 1960s, a few years after independence, at a time when the Muslim minority there was being persecuted. He wasn’t able to return to Zanzibar until 1984.
Since 1987, he has published around ten novels and several short stories in English (his native language is Swahili). None have become bestsellers, but his body of work as a whole offers a different perspective on issues like immigration and cultural diversity. His work sheds light on the effects of colonialism, exile, and the plight of refugees, "speaking" of his love for Africa and his fight against neocolonialism. Though Gurnah’s stories aren’t explicitly autobiographical, they’re inspired by his life as an immigrant in the UK.
Gurnah was also a professor of English and postcolonial literature at the University of Kent in Canterbury until his recent retirement.
Does this award bring more attention to African literature? Who knows? At the very least, it might give it a boost. If African literature is less visible in the West, it’s partly because it isn’t widely accessible: Gurnah is rarely translated into French or German, and not at all into Arabic.
In Tanzania and its Zanzibar archipelago, he’s being celebrated with joy. "This means a lot for Zanzibar’s struggle for self-determination," says Ismail Jussa, a literary critic from Zanzibar. "It helps put Zanzibar back on the map." The Swedish Committee acknowledged that his work has helped understand "the divisions caused by colonialists, but also the heartbreak of being torn between the homeland one comes from and the life of exile one is forced into."
By the Sea. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2001 (Fr.: Près de la Mer. Galaade Éd., 2006)
Paradise. Bloomsbury Publishing, 1994/2004 (Fr.: Paradis. Motifs, 1999)
Desertion. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2005 (Fr.: Adieu Zanzibar. Galaade Éd., 2009)
Afterlives. Bloomsbury Publishing, 2020 (Fr.: Les vies d’après. Denoël, 2023)
Hery
I just read this introduction
https://www.isabelleetlevelo.fr/2024/11/27/les-archives-de-lucien-peraire-enfin-prises-en-charge/
Then I went to the site created by La Maison des Sciences de l’Homme.
https://peraire.huma-num.fr/
It’s a scholarly site, an inventory of all the documents from his journey.
I read the presentation of his travel journals.
https://peraire.huma-num.fr/introduction.php
I was immediately won over by the man and the excerpts from his travel journals. What he writes feels like documentation of the peoples and societies he encountered, along with reflections that lead to broader thoughts on our humanity.
It really whets the appetite. Unfortunately, Éditions Garnier gave up on publishing his account. Péraire self-published it under the title *À travers le monde à vélo et en espéranto*, but it seems impossible to find.
The French journals are readable on the site, but they’re facsimiles. They’re handwritten and in an uncomfortable format—PDF. Plus, the ink has faded in parts.
Happy travels
https://www.isabelleetlevelo.fr/2024/11/27/les-archives-de-lucien-peraire-enfin-prises-en-charge/
Then I went to the site created by La Maison des Sciences de l’Homme.
https://peraire.huma-num.fr/
It’s a scholarly site, an inventory of all the documents from his journey.
I read the presentation of his travel journals.
https://peraire.huma-num.fr/introduction.php
I was immediately won over by the man and the excerpts from his travel journals. What he writes feels like documentation of the peoples and societies he encountered, along with reflections that lead to broader thoughts on our humanity.
It really whets the appetite. Unfortunately, Éditions Garnier gave up on publishing his account. Péraire self-published it under the title *À travers le monde à vélo et en espéranto*, but it seems impossible to find.
The French journals are readable on the site, but they’re facsimiles. They’re handwritten and in an uncomfortable format—PDF. Plus, the ink has faded in parts.
Happy travels
Hello,
Some travel to the ends of the Earth to climb Everest, but I set off more modestly to take on a challenge just as beautiful and demanding: walking the entire coast of Brittany.
Four months on the land of my ancestors... Four months with my thoughts... Four months living an adventure that changed my life...
No mountain to climb, no extreme weather conditions—just following the ocean and putting one foot in front of the other for 2,100 km to connect Saint-Nazaire to Mont Saint-Michel along the Customs Officers' Path.
I’d never walked that many days in a row. No performance to achieve, no record to break—just a path I followed. More than a path, I’d say it was a journey. I let my steps carry me, gradually letting go of the plan I’d set for myself to truly embrace the moment. I lived one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. An unforgettable adventure filled with encounters, joy, tears, and powerful moments etched into my memory. How could I not be touched by the warmth of the Bretons who opened their doors—and above all, their hearts—to me?
I cried tears of happiness. It felt so good. I felt alive, present, connected to myself and to others. I celebrated life. Everything reminded me of the luck I had to be on Earth. Everything amazed me—from the sound of the waves to the songs of birds, the endless colors of the sea, and the wind rushing through the trees, not to mention all the little signs life sent my way. I loved all those "chances" (were they really just coincidences?), all those unexpected encounters. Yes, life is beautiful! This path reminded me of the luck I have to be alive and here on this Earth. When you wake up every day to the sound of nature, how can you not appreciate your existence?
Everyone walks for a reason, whether it’s the Camino de Santiago or the Customs Officers' Path—it’s first and foremost a personal journey. I wanted to experience long-distance walking to discover new things. I got my share of answers, but also new questions. I wrote in my travel journal every day to remember every moment, every sensation, every encounter, every thought.
Now, it’s time to share this adventure with as many people as possible through a book I’ve been working on for two years... Readers’ feedback has been unanimous: "It’s simply a brilliant book."
I truly hope it will inspire you and give you the desire to pursue your own dreams too.
The book is available in bookstores, on Amazon, and on my website GR34 Aventure if you’d like a signed copy.
Thank you
Some travel to the ends of the Earth to climb Everest, but I set off more modestly to take on a challenge just as beautiful and demanding: walking the entire coast of Brittany.
Four months on the land of my ancestors... Four months with my thoughts... Four months living an adventure that changed my life...
No mountain to climb, no extreme weather conditions—just following the ocean and putting one foot in front of the other for 2,100 km to connect Saint-Nazaire to Mont Saint-Michel along the Customs Officers' Path.
I’d never walked that many days in a row. No performance to achieve, no record to break—just a path I followed. More than a path, I’d say it was a journey. I let my steps carry me, gradually letting go of the plan I’d set for myself to truly embrace the moment. I lived one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. An unforgettable adventure filled with encounters, joy, tears, and powerful moments etched into my memory. How could I not be touched by the warmth of the Bretons who opened their doors—and above all, their hearts—to me?
I cried tears of happiness. It felt so good. I felt alive, present, connected to myself and to others. I celebrated life. Everything reminded me of the luck I had to be on Earth. Everything amazed me—from the sound of the waves to the songs of birds, the endless colors of the sea, and the wind rushing through the trees, not to mention all the little signs life sent my way. I loved all those "chances" (were they really just coincidences?), all those unexpected encounters. Yes, life is beautiful! This path reminded me of the luck I have to be alive and here on this Earth. When you wake up every day to the sound of nature, how can you not appreciate your existence?
Everyone walks for a reason, whether it’s the Camino de Santiago or the Customs Officers' Path—it’s first and foremost a personal journey. I wanted to experience long-distance walking to discover new things. I got my share of answers, but also new questions. I wrote in my travel journal every day to remember every moment, every sensation, every encounter, every thought.
Now, it’s time to share this adventure with as many people as possible through a book I’ve been working on for two years... Readers’ feedback has been unanimous: "It’s simply a brilliant book."
I truly hope it will inspire you and give you the desire to pursue your own dreams too.
The book is available in bookstores, on Amazon, and on my website GR34 Aventure if you’d like a signed copy.
Thank you
I just came across an incredible magazine: America. Nearly 200 pages per issue. This quarterly, which will only be published during Trump’s presidency, gives a voice to the greatest French and American writers to try to understand America in the age of Donald Trump through reports, investigations, major interviews, and columns.
Issue 5 (america.aboshop.fr/...n/product-article/11) is entirely dedicated to what we all love here and is titled "What Remains of Wild America?" It covers wide-open spaces, nature, national parks, and shows how Trump has launched a systematic demolition of America’s environmental legacy. I’m thinking of buying the whole collection because this magazine is truly extraordinary.
Issue 5 (america.aboshop.fr/...n/product-article/11) is entirely dedicated to what we all love here and is titled "What Remains of Wild America?" It covers wide-open spaces, nature, national parks, and shows how Trump has launched a systematic demolition of America’s environmental legacy. I’m thinking of buying the whole collection because this magazine is truly extraordinary.
Hello everyone. Colombia is a country that has been plagued by clichés for decades—often unflattering ones—that, of course, don’t reflect (or only in a very caricatured way) the realities. Having lived in Cali for eight years, where I worked, I discovered a land full of life, colors, and diversity. If you're planning to explore this country that gave birth to the myth of El Dorado (which, by the way, is the name of Bogotá’s airport), you can certainly pick up the various guides published about it. For my part, I’d like to recommend one of the rare "beautiful books" (photos and text) dedicated to this country. It’s just been released by Géorama and is titled *Colombia, Magia de la Vida*. Click here to learn more by browsing the official site. I’m the author, and I’m happy to answer any questions or comments about Colombia or this book. Thanks, and happy travels!
A fascinating documentary about a Khmer treasure discovered in the Savannakhet region. The documentary places this discovery within the cultural environment of the Khmer era, from Wat Phu (Champassak - Laos) to Angkor (Cambodia).
https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/116856-000-A/laos-le-tresor-oublie-de-la-civilisation-khmere/
Bonjour à tous,
Je compte voyager en Grande-Bretagne (quand cette crise sera finie) et voudrais savoir quels livres vous me conseilleriez pour la découvrir en termes d'histoire, de culture, de politique, etc. ; et je recherche des œuvres littéraires comme des romans, des récits de voyages ou des essais, pas pas des guides de voyages.
Merci,
Caro
Je compte voyager en Grande-Bretagne (quand cette crise sera finie) et voudrais savoir quels livres vous me conseilleriez pour la découvrir en termes d'histoire, de culture, de politique, etc. ; et je recherche des œuvres littéraires comme des romans, des récits de voyages ou des essais, pas pas des guides de voyages.
Merci,
Caro
Je vous invite à découvrir mon récit de voyage publié chez BoD : https://www.bod.fr/librairie/les-immensites-secretes-matthieu-stelvio-9782322236336
Vous pouvez consulter des illustrations sur cette page : https://atlae.blogspot.com/2020/09/parution-du-livre-les-immensites.html
J'espère qu'il intéressera au moins l'un d'entre vous...
Matthieu
Vous pouvez consulter des illustrations sur cette page : https://atlae.blogspot.com/2020/09/parution-du-livre-les-immensites.html
J'espère qu'il intéressera au moins l'un d'entre vous...
Matthieu







