Je rentre de jours passés dans le Nord du pays et ce fut un très beau voyage mais qui se termina d'une mauvaise manière...
Hier matin alors que je suis à l'aéroport de Luang Prabang direction Bangkok, l'officier de l'immigration quu vérifie mon passeport me dit que je vais avoir " de gros problèmes"
Il l'emmène dans une petite salle à part et m'explique que mon passeport a pas été tamponné à ma frontière lors de mon entrée au Laos (arrivée par nouvelle frontière Chiang Khong-Houayxay qui en + est un véritable racket... un premier tuk tuk à payer puis un bus puis encore un tuk tuk pour rejoindre Houayxay)
Bref il n'y a ni date d'entrée ni preuve que je suis bien passé par le poste frontière me voilà immigrée clandestine ce qui dans la bouche du monsieur est considéré comme "criminel"
Du coup il me propose 2 options soit je paye 200 US dollars (160€) soit je retourne à Houayxay pour essayer d'arranger les choses là bas...
Il est 6h du mat, mon avion retour pour la France est dans 48h autant vous dire que le choix est limité...
Je dis à l'officier que si je paye je veux un courrier expliquant toute l'histoire pour pouvoir l'envoyer à l'ambassade ou je ne sais où et tenter de me faire rembourser parce que c'est quand même pas de ma faute.
Ça a l'air de le contrarier un peu, au début il refuse mais comme j'insiste il finit par me faire un reçu...
Voilà... je ne sais pas si il s'agit d'une arnaque ou si je suis tombé sur un douanier fatigué à l'entrée au Laos mais ça coûte cher !
200 dols ce sera le prix de ton incroyable naivete , et c est pas cher paye - Et tu invoques une arnaque ?, un flic pas au top ? Allez... le ridicule ne tue pas encore , profites en bien...
C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est supérieure à la vitesse du son que tant de gens paraissent brillants avant d'avoir l'air con...
Visiblement elle n est pas passee par l immigration , a moins qu elle croit que le Laos c est en Europe...Des fois que...
Bonjour,
Les cons dans dans l'histoire, ce sont plutôt les pseudos flics aux frontières pour qui, avec leur air fier, ont mal fait leur boulot dés le départ, boulot à la portée du premier venu qui a envie de faire ça.apparemment aucun arrangement possible, le reçu est certainement "bidon".Le flic, avec sa petite tête, a toute suite vu l'occasion de se mettre du blé dans sa poche et en insinuant
que ce pov touriste est passé au Laos par le Mékong à la nage.Et oui !toujours regarder son passeport après la douane et ne jamais faire de suite confiance aux asiatiques la bas!.L'erreur est humaine!
C est vrai que c est un endroit particulier ou en fait tu peux rentrer au Laos sans passer forcement par l immigration , c est a toi d y aller - Reflexe elementaire quand tu rentres dans un autre pays : immigration , non ?
C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est supérieure à la vitesse du son que tant de gens paraissent brillants avant d'avoir l'air con...
Je remercie profondément " tuture" pour ces messages tous plus intéressants et constructifs les uns que les autres!!!
Quelle vie passionnante tu dois avoir pour perdre ton temps de la sorte...
J'espère sincèrement ne jamais croiser ta route lors d'un prochain voyage se serait un vrai gachi, il y a heureusement tellement de gens biens à rencontrer!
Je te laisse à ton clavier puisque cela à l'air d'être tellement important pour toi de cracher ton venin.
Moi j'ai repris la route avec une.expérience de vie en plus.
Je ne te salue pas, bien entendu.
:)
Si justement tu passes souvent les frontières, tu devrai savoir que ce qui s'y passe n'est pas toujours clair pour un voyageur novice.
Toi bien sur, tu es un expert sans failles, et tu aura permis à cette personne qui ne pouvait se douter qu'elle se faisait embobiner (parce qu'elle était dans un lieu officiel avec un fonctionnaire de police), parce qu'elle pensait à son avion dans 48h, et qu'en fin de voyage la fatigue et la crainte de ne pas rentrer obscurcissent un peu le jugement, de profiter de tes bons mots.
Tu ferai quoi toi si ce genre d'aventures t'arrivait à la frontière chinoise, russe ou brésilienne lors de tes premiers séjours ?
tu dirai "non monsieur je ne payerai rien vous êtes un escroc !!" ?
Un peu de sérieux, dans un milieu qu'on ne connait pas et face à un fonctionnaire peu sympathique on a tendance à s'incliner. Mais si t'es capable de défier une autorité locale en étant persuader de l'issue de la chose, tu es très fort...
Bons voyages et au plaisir de ne pas te croiser Mr "Jesaistout"... 😏
S'il ne te reste que quelques secondes à vivre, prend simplement le temps d'ouvrir les yeux...
Silvestik
Appuies stp sur la touche "'rewind" et vas y doucement ...Elle est rentree au Laos sans passer par l immirigation et elle devrait s offusquer qu on lui en demande les raisons ?? - Elle poste ce sujet dans la rubrique " ARNAQUE ", insinue que le flic n est peut etre pas au niveau mais oublie sans doute d evaluer son attitude et qu en fait elle a fait une enorme connerie ( elle est bien sortie de Thailande via l immigration , pourquoi ne rentre elle pas au Laos en passant par l immigration ? )
C est pas le fait qu elle soit passee a cote de la plaque ( ca peut arriver ) mais pas qu elle se definisse comme une victime qui m a interpelle , basta -
C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est supérieure à la vitesse du son que tant de gens paraissent brillants avant d'avoir l'air con...
Il l'emmène dans une petite salle à part et m'explique que mon passeport a pas été tamponné à ma frontière lors de mon entrée au Laos (arrivée par nouvelle frontière Chiang Khong-Houayxay qui en + est un véritable racket... un premier tuk tuk à payer puis un bus puis encore un tuk tuk pour rejoindre Houayxay)
Bref il n'y a ni date d'entrée ni preuve que je suis bien passé par le poste frontière me voilà immigrée clandestine ce qui dans la bouche du monsieur est considéré comme "criminel"
dans ces conditions, elle ne s'est pas doutée qu'il y aurait un problème.
on peut donc comprendre son agacement et sa surprise.
dans une Europe ou passer les frontières est si facile, on en oublie d'être vigilant dans d'autres pays...
ce qui m'a agacé c'est ta façon de répondre. bien sur qu'elle aurait du faire plus attention, mais se moquer d'elle en utilisant certains mots, n'était pas très judicieux. une fois de plus, un participant de VF se sera fait agressé sans raisons valables...
et ce sentiment de se faire agresser par des "Jesaistout" fini par agacer et faire fuir beaucoup de monde. 🙁
essaye de prendre le principe de Forum participatif et d'entre-aide de la meilleure des façons.
c'est pour le bien de tous...😐
dans cette optique, explique nous ce qu'aurait du faire cette personne, afin que dans des circonstances similaires de son premier passage à la frontière ou de sa confrontation face à la Police, on puisse savoir quoi faire si nous aussi - par erreur, oubli, omission, méconnaissance - on avait fait la même chose. 😮
S'il ne te reste que quelques secondes à vivre, prend simplement le temps d'ouvrir les yeux...
Silvestik
Tout un chacun , avant de visiter un pays , se preoccupe de savoir si besoin de visa , duree , etc ...Right ? Pourquoi quand elle arrive au Laos elle ne montre pas son joli visa , qu elle aura pris soin de contracter avant , ou d aller a l immigration en demander un puisqu au Laos on peut le faire a la frontiere ? - Donc on rentre la fleur au fusil et apres on s etonne d etre reprimandee par le mechant officier ?
Nan.....
C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est supérieure à la vitesse du son que tant de gens paraissent brillants avant d'avoir l'air con...
Complément d'informations pour ceux que ça pourrait aider à l'avenir, je suis bien passée au service d'immigration à la frontière pour faire aviser mon "joli visa", le douanier l'a pris, l'a posé sur son bureau derrière son guichet et à tourné les pages...
J'aurais juste dû vérifier qu'il y avait bien apposé le tampon... mais c'est compris pour ma prochaine fois! Voilà voilà :)
J'avais bien compris cela.
C'est pour cette raison que je n'ai pas aimé certaines réflexions.
et je comprend ton emportement, car le Laos n'est pas un pays facile à voyager.
Les déconvenues peuvent être nombreuses et fatiguantes.
et puis on a le droit de ne pas être attentif et de se rater. ca peut arriver.
la plus grosse erreur vient du douanier qui du coup laisse rentrer n'importe comment sur le territoire :
ce qui n'est pas vraiment bon pour ce genre de poste.... 😛
S'il ne te reste que quelques secondes à vivre, prend simplement le temps d'ouvrir les yeux...
Silvestik
200 dols ce sera le prix de ton incroyable naivete , et c est pas cher paye - Et tu invoques une arnaque ?, un flic pas au top ? Allez... le ridicule ne tue pas encore , profites en bien...
Alors non, je n'apprécie pas du tout le ton de ta réponse 😠
J'ai vécu en Chine pendant une année, puis au Laos 2 fois durant 6 mois, et n'ai pas eu de problèmes à prolonger le visa déjà fait auparavant, en entrant par voie aérienne.
MAIS la dernière fois que je m'y suis rendue, il y a une année par voie terrestre, en traversant le pont de l'amitié, la même mésaventure nous est arrivée ( nous étions 2 ) nous n'avons pas suivi le douanier dans un petit recoin un peu caché, et n'avons pas vérifié si le tampon d'entrée était bien imprimé dans nos passeport !!!
Ce n'est que lorsque nous avons quitté Vientiane, à l'aéroport que nous avons connu la même aventure, mais à l'époque l'arnaque coûtait nettement moins cher !!! Grand moment de stress !!!
J'ai réalisé, en lisant les arnaques sur le forum et d'autres endroits, que cette arnaque se pratique de plus en plus, et tu es vraiment bien autosuffisant et arrogant pour te permettre de réagir de la sorte 🤪
MERCI d'avoir signalé ce qui devient bel et bien une arnaque de plus en plus pratiquée au Laos et ailleurs !!!
Hélas lorsque j'ai vécu la même mésaventure, j'ai aussi imaginé que c'était un petit accident de parcours, une erreur du douanier, et ce n'est qu'après avoir lu quelques récits semblables au tien que je réalise la grosse arnaque !!!
TU AS BIEN RAISON DE LE FAIRE SAVOIR et encore MERCI 🙂
Mais, mis à part cette expérience désagréable, le Laos reste un pays très attachant, où l'on a envie de retourner !!!
Merci pour votre témoignage. Nous allons au Laos par Chiang Khong dans quelques jours. Nous nous assurerons d'obtenir le tampon pour nos passeports.
Musvin
bravo pour ta réponse!! ! certaines personnes sur ce forum on la prétention de tout connaitre et de tout savoir
et sont souvent impolies et agaçante pour la majorité des lecteurs et les font fuir de ce forum.🤪
Cette histoire est d'autant plus surprenante que la frontière à Chiang Khong est tellement dans la démesure. Elle semble parfaitement officielle, avec des douaniers munis d'ordinateurs. Ils ont d'ailleurs beaucoup de mal à transcrire nos noms avec le clavier..' Bref on vient de passer dans l'autre sens et l'aspect super moderne fait que je n'ai rien vérifié et ouf, pour nous, ils avaient bien fait leur boulot. Donc cette leçon, nous servira pour un prochain voyage. Merci de l'avoir partagé.
Bonjour,
Nous sommes passés par ce poste frontière il y a moins de 2 mois.
Bien que tout neuf, le passage au pont de l'Amitié à Chiang Khong est plutôt confus. Je ne suis pas surprise de la mésaventure arrivée à Magcolombe. Il faut effectivement être très vigilant et bien prétentieux sont ceux qui lui jettent la pierre.
Par ailleurs, si vous arrivez de Chiang Rai en bus, attention, il faut descendre avant le terminus à Chiang Khong. Sinon, il faudra revenir en arrière et les chauffeurs de tuk tuk en profitent.
Nous décrivons dans notre blog un voyage de 2 mois: Nord de la Thailande, Laos et Cambodge avec quelques conseils, budget, transport, basé sur notre expérience. Si cela peut vous être utile, voici l'adresse http://asiedusudest2014.blogspot.fr
Amicalement.
bravo pour ta réponse!! ! certaines personnes sur ce forum on la prétention de tout connaitre et de tout savoir
et sont souvent impolies et agaçante pour la majorité des lecteurs et les font fuir de ce forum.🤪
bonjour,
On peut avoir des pseudos (histoire de se rendre compte qui sont ces Messieurs ou Madame Je-sais-tout?) 😎
Merci...
Ce qui est cocasse, c'est que vous êtes ici le plus gros (que dis-je : le seul) donneur de leçon, mais que finalement vous êtes aussi le seul à n'avoir rien compris du tout à l'histoire...
Magcolombe est évidemment bien passée par l'immigration, a eu à faire aux vrais fonctionnaires, mais aussi à une de leurs arnaques déjà bien rodée. Peut-être pas encore à ce nouveau poste frontière mais depuis plusieurs années déjà, par exemple, à celui lao-chinois de Boten (province de Luang Nam Tha).
J'en ai plusieurs fois reçu des témoignages. Le dernier c'était en août 2012, à la gare de bus d'Oudomxaï. J'y ai croisé un Chilien qui se retapait toute la route Vientiane/Boten (4 à 5 jours aller-retour) uniquement pour aller récupérer ce putain de tampon "oublié". Faut dire que lui avait du temps et en aucun cas il n'avait voulu céder à ces enfoirés, le brave.
Alors, mea culpa ?
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Merci Magali pour ce témoignage important pour tous ceux qui vont passer par ce poste-frontière. Ce sera mon cas dans 1 mois.
Et puis ne fais pas attention à ce que disent certaines personnes qui font preuve de peu de ressources intellectuelles...
Merci encore.
Aventuredo
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First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM).
Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do????
We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc.
Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else.
Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening.
We’ll be there at the end of October.
Thanks!
Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search.
I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.