Bali - conseil sur itinéraire en août
by Yann034
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
je vous envoie ce mail afin d'obtenir des conseils et la faisabilité sur un itinéraire que je prévois de faire durant mes vacances à Bali en août prochain (arrivée le 02 et retour le 13 en soirée)
donc arrivée le 02 août : direction Ubud (3 nuits)
du 05 au 07: Munduk (2 nuits)
du 07 au 09: Amed (2 nuits)
du 09 au 11: Lombok départ depuis Amed (fast boat) ou Padangbai (ferry) - (2 nuits)
du 11 au 13: Seminyak
13 en fin d'après midi, retour sur aéroport
qu'en pensez vous? est ce faisable?
dans l'attente de vos réponses
merci à tous!
Je ne connais pas encore Bali (j'y vais en juillet) donc mon avis est à prendre avec du recul mais je trouve ton programme hyper serré.😕
Je suppose que si tu as si peu de jours sur place c'est que tu ne peux faire autrement ?
Du coup il me semble qu'il serait bien d'alléger ton programme et de supprimer quelques étapes (lombok déjà peut etre ?). Je suis en pleine préparation de notre itinéraire et ce que je retiens au fil de mes recherches c'est que la periode de juillet/aout est ultra chargée en terme d'afluence et que les déplacements sont longs voire très longs malgré les courtes distances. Alors défaire et refaire tous les 2/3 jours la valise pour ensuite passer la journee en transport peut s'avérer épuisant, non ?
Bon je laisse la parole aux spécialistes maintenant.
salut,
tu peux zapper Seminyak sans probleme... va plutot au sud a uluwatu ... a moins que tu souhaites voir le cirque de seminyak, legian et kuta beach... y en a pour tous les gouts.... le nord de l' ile reste original et encore preserve en comparaison du cirque de kuta...
tu peux zapper Seminyak sans probleme... va plutot au sud a uluwatu ... a moins que tu souhaites voir le cirque de seminyak, legian et kuta beach... y en a pour tous les gouts.... le nord de l' ile reste original et encore preserve en comparaison du cirque de kuta...
aum sawastiastu
bonsoir et merci pour ce conseil!
2 questions:
1. vous me conseillez de faire escale à Uluwatu; en cherchant sur google map, j'ai 2 propositions:
une localisation dans la province de Sanur et une localisation sur la presqu'île de Bukit!
De quel Uluwatu me parlez vous? 😉
je souhaitais faire escale vers Seminyak afin d'aller visiter le temple de Tanah Lot
2. plutôt que de choisir Lombok, ne serait il pas plus simple de partir sur une des îles Gili depuis Amed? j'attend vos conseils précieux! merci beaucoup!
je souhaitais faire escale vers Seminyak afin d'aller visiter le temple de Tanah Lot
2. plutôt que de choisir Lombok, ne serait il pas plus simple de partir sur une des îles Gili depuis Amed? j'attend vos conseils précieux! merci beaucoup!
re,
a ma connaissace y a qu un uluwatu c est a l extreme sud de bali effectivement apres le bukit...
les gilis c' est vraiment l' usine a touristes, services sont bas de gammes, et assez chers au final ... perso je vous conseille pas les gilis ...preferez rester sur Amed, Lovina dans ce cas la... depuis uluwatu vous trouverez sans probleme un agent de voyage pour aller au temple de tanah lot...
cordialement
a ma connaissace y a qu un uluwatu c est a l extreme sud de bali effectivement apres le bukit...
les gilis c' est vraiment l' usine a touristes, services sont bas de gammes, et assez chers au final ... perso je vous conseille pas les gilis ...preferez rester sur Amed, Lovina dans ce cas la... depuis uluwatu vous trouverez sans probleme un agent de voyage pour aller au temple de tanah lot...
cordialement
aum sawastiastu
re, re
pas loin non plus d uluwatu y a le blue point beach, avec des plages sympas... ciao
pas loin non plus d uluwatu y a le blue point beach, avec des plages sympas... ciao
aum sawastiastu
Bonjour Yann je vis à Bali et donc je peux t'aider dans ton programme .. en effet les mois de juillet et aout sont des mois chargés et puis il faut savoir ce que tu as envie de voir sur Bali car tu parles de Ubud qui est une ville plutôt artistique avec la danse, les musées et les rizières autour, de seminyak ou en effet le luxe, les bars et boites et de amed plutôt plongée ... pour les Gili elles font partie de Lombok et pour moi Lombok est très joli mais deux jours c'est hard ... .. précises moi ce que tu as envie de voir et faire : temples ?? plongées ou snorkelling ?, nourriture ?? balades dans les rizières .. sources chaudes .. rafting .. .. et je te conseillerai .. et si tu peux amener ton permis international le mieux sera de louer une moto ( 3 euros par jour ) et c'est le meilleur moyen pour parcourir Bali
Daniel
Daniel
daniel
bonjour Daniel et merci de votre réponse et pour vos conseils!
alors ce que je souhaite voir et visiter à Bali:
ben je vais rester classique et peu original, je pense:
temples et water palaces, rizières, plages et plongée et snorkelling, ballades pourquoi pas danses traditionnelles, et sources chaudes et cascades d'eau rafting, ça dépendra du timing tout comme une montée au Mont Batur
niveau alimentation, je suis cuisinier et j'aime j'adore la cuisine exotique donc pas de soucis là dessus
après on me déconseille la partie très et trop touristique de Legian je comptais m'y rendre juste pour aller visiter le temple Tanah Lot Bôites pas nécessaires, bars pour prendre un verre oui accesssoirement
pour la moto ou le scooter je n'ai jamais été un grand pilote de 2 roues.. donc ça ne me tente pas trop
pour Lombok oui effectivement je pense que ça fait trop court je comptais me rabattre sur les îles gilis depuis Amed, par fast boat; quand je lis les articles concernant les fast boast, y'a du bon et du moins bon, voire très mauvais, donc bon, qu'en pensez vous, vous qui vivez sur place? ou bien choisir l'option 2: faire la liason Amed Padangbai et prendre un ferry, puis retour par Padangbai pour rejoindre le sud ouest de l'île? je suis preneur de tous bons conseils! dans l'attente de votre réponse, encore merci!
temples et water palaces, rizières, plages et plongée et snorkelling, ballades pourquoi pas danses traditionnelles, et sources chaudes et cascades d'eau rafting, ça dépendra du timing tout comme une montée au Mont Batur
niveau alimentation, je suis cuisinier et j'aime j'adore la cuisine exotique donc pas de soucis là dessus
après on me déconseille la partie très et trop touristique de Legian je comptais m'y rendre juste pour aller visiter le temple Tanah Lot Bôites pas nécessaires, bars pour prendre un verre oui accesssoirement
pour la moto ou le scooter je n'ai jamais été un grand pilote de 2 roues.. donc ça ne me tente pas trop
pour Lombok oui effectivement je pense que ça fait trop court je comptais me rabattre sur les îles gilis depuis Amed, par fast boat; quand je lis les articles concernant les fast boast, y'a du bon et du moins bon, voire très mauvais, donc bon, qu'en pensez vous, vous qui vivez sur place? ou bien choisir l'option 2: faire la liason Amed Padangbai et prendre un ferry, puis retour par Padangbai pour rejoindre le sud ouest de l'île? je suis preneur de tous bons conseils! dans l'attente de votre réponse, encore merci!
re bonjour!
j'ai lu vos conseils sur un autre post:
1. pensez vous que de relier Amed à Pemuteran serait faisable et pas trop long afin d'aller passer 1 journée sur Menjangan?
2. et par la suite rejoindre Legian ou autre afin de se rapprocher de l'aéroport?
ou bien à votre avis, ça fera bien trop de route et de frais par la meme occasion?? dans l'attente merci!!
ou bien à votre avis, ça fera bien trop de route et de frais par la meme occasion?? dans l'attente merci!!
Bonjour Yann
je vais essayer de répondre le mieux possible à votre message : sur bali en effet plein de choses à voir et à gouter sur le plan culinaire et selon le temps que vous allez y passer il faudra forcément faire des choix; pour les temples vous avez les très touristiques jolis et romantiques mais surpeuplés surtout au mois de juillet et aout tels que Uluwatu ( qui domine la péninsule de Bukit au sud avec plein de singes un peu voleurs ) et puis Tanah lot sur un piton rocheux à l'ouest de Seminyak près de Tabanan en fait surchargé de monde surtout pour le coucher du soleil .... et vous avez les temples sacrés et à mon avis plus intéressant comme bien sûr Pura Besakih au pied du mont Agung, le temple mère de Bali qui compte en fait une vingtaine de temples dont trois pour Shiva, Brahma et Vishnu et plein d'autres privés pour els familles nobles de Bali. surtout si vous y allez ne vous laissez pas embringuer par un guide locale qui ne va pas arrêter de vous demander bakshish pour pénétrer dans un alors qu'en fait vous pouvez le faire en contournant l'entrée principale en haut des escaliers et passer par la droite ... et puis le pura Lempuyang pour moi le plus beau et impressionnant avec ses 1700 marches ce qui limite le tourisme .... bon ensuite il ya bien d'autres temples comme pura goa lawa .. et pura ulur danu bratan sur le lac Bratan .... bon pour Pemuteran non de Amed trop loin .. donc je vous suggère en fait de dormir une nuit sur legian ( moins hard que Kuta et la plage est magnifique ) vous avez des petits hôtels sympas et pas trop cher près de la plage .. puis de là se rendre à Tanah lot que vous voulez voir le matin ( moins de monde ) puis monter vers Bedugul ( le marché est sympa et on y mange un excellent saté kelinci ( brochettes de lapin ) puis voir à côté le temple sur le lac Bratan et enfin aller dormir à Munduk en montagne, très joli petit village avec plein de Girofliers, rizières et cascades ... le lendemain de là se rendre à pemuteran au nord ouest pour alelr plongée ou snorkelling sur Menjengan ... ensuite revenir vers Lovina en en faisant un arrêt aux sources chaudes de Banjar qui sont superbes ... dormir à Lovina puis monter vers le batur ( de Kintamani Penelokan on a une vue le matin superbe sur la caldeira .. si vous voulez en faire l'ascension allez dormir à Toyabunka au bord du lac mais un peu touristique l'ascension car guide obligatoire ( 30 euros ) alros que le chemin est facile et presque à la queue leu leu ( surtout en juillet aout ) ... bon ensuite descendre vers Ubud en s'arrêtant aux deux site majeurs à ne pas louper à Tampaksiring : tirta empul ( les sources sacrées ) et Gunung kawi ( les tombeaux royaux : pour moi le plus beaux site au bord de la Pakerisan, rivière sacrée et au milieu des rizières et reponter en allant voir le 10 ème tombeau sur la gauche .... bon ensuite se rendre sur Ubud ou vous pouvez rester au moins 2 nuits pour les danses legong au palais, la danse kecak ( danse des singes ) voir le musée de peinture ( il y en a 4 ) et surtout déguster les spécialités : le babi guling : cochon de lait à la broche chez Ibu Oka ( en face du palais ) et le bebek betutu ( canard à la balinaise cuit pendant 7 h ) il faut le commander ... et aussi gouter les sate lilit ( brochettes de poisson au lait de coco et citronelle ) .... bon de Ubud vous pouvez faire du rafting sur l'ayung ... aller voir les rizières de Tegalallang ( grande balade au milieu magnifique ) .... de quoi tout cela vous occuper .. pour Lombok par le ferry c'est long 4h aller puis ensuite si vous voulez aller vers Gili encore 3h minimum ou alors choisir le sud Kuta Lombok que j'aime bien avec les plages encore très préservées de Mawun et Selong Blanak .. autrement els fast boat oui assez trop cher à mon avis ... mais bon ... dommage que vous n'aimiez pas le scooter c'est la meilleure façon de se déplacer sur Bali .. autrement je peux vous donner les coordonnées s'un ami indonésien qui parle très bien français et très gentil qui pourra vous guider : sur Facebook Youdi guide ... voilà si vous voulez des précisions n'hésitez pas
daniel
je vais essayer de répondre le mieux possible à votre message : sur bali en effet plein de choses à voir et à gouter sur le plan culinaire et selon le temps que vous allez y passer il faudra forcément faire des choix; pour les temples vous avez les très touristiques jolis et romantiques mais surpeuplés surtout au mois de juillet et aout tels que Uluwatu ( qui domine la péninsule de Bukit au sud avec plein de singes un peu voleurs ) et puis Tanah lot sur un piton rocheux à l'ouest de Seminyak près de Tabanan en fait surchargé de monde surtout pour le coucher du soleil .... et vous avez les temples sacrés et à mon avis plus intéressant comme bien sûr Pura Besakih au pied du mont Agung, le temple mère de Bali qui compte en fait une vingtaine de temples dont trois pour Shiva, Brahma et Vishnu et plein d'autres privés pour els familles nobles de Bali. surtout si vous y allez ne vous laissez pas embringuer par un guide locale qui ne va pas arrêter de vous demander bakshish pour pénétrer dans un alors qu'en fait vous pouvez le faire en contournant l'entrée principale en haut des escaliers et passer par la droite ... et puis le pura Lempuyang pour moi le plus beau et impressionnant avec ses 1700 marches ce qui limite le tourisme .... bon ensuite il ya bien d'autres temples comme pura goa lawa .. et pura ulur danu bratan sur le lac Bratan .... bon pour Pemuteran non de Amed trop loin .. donc je vous suggère en fait de dormir une nuit sur legian ( moins hard que Kuta et la plage est magnifique ) vous avez des petits hôtels sympas et pas trop cher près de la plage .. puis de là se rendre à Tanah lot que vous voulez voir le matin ( moins de monde ) puis monter vers Bedugul ( le marché est sympa et on y mange un excellent saté kelinci ( brochettes de lapin ) puis voir à côté le temple sur le lac Bratan et enfin aller dormir à Munduk en montagne, très joli petit village avec plein de Girofliers, rizières et cascades ... le lendemain de là se rendre à pemuteran au nord ouest pour alelr plongée ou snorkelling sur Menjengan ... ensuite revenir vers Lovina en en faisant un arrêt aux sources chaudes de Banjar qui sont superbes ... dormir à Lovina puis monter vers le batur ( de Kintamani Penelokan on a une vue le matin superbe sur la caldeira .. si vous voulez en faire l'ascension allez dormir à Toyabunka au bord du lac mais un peu touristique l'ascension car guide obligatoire ( 30 euros ) alros que le chemin est facile et presque à la queue leu leu ( surtout en juillet aout ) ... bon ensuite descendre vers Ubud en s'arrêtant aux deux site majeurs à ne pas louper à Tampaksiring : tirta empul ( les sources sacrées ) et Gunung kawi ( les tombeaux royaux : pour moi le plus beaux site au bord de la Pakerisan, rivière sacrée et au milieu des rizières et reponter en allant voir le 10 ème tombeau sur la gauche .... bon ensuite se rendre sur Ubud ou vous pouvez rester au moins 2 nuits pour les danses legong au palais, la danse kecak ( danse des singes ) voir le musée de peinture ( il y en a 4 ) et surtout déguster les spécialités : le babi guling : cochon de lait à la broche chez Ibu Oka ( en face du palais ) et le bebek betutu ( canard à la balinaise cuit pendant 7 h ) il faut le commander ... et aussi gouter les sate lilit ( brochettes de poisson au lait de coco et citronelle ) .... bon de Ubud vous pouvez faire du rafting sur l'ayung ... aller voir les rizières de Tegalallang ( grande balade au milieu magnifique ) .... de quoi tout cela vous occuper .. pour Lombok par le ferry c'est long 4h aller puis ensuite si vous voulez aller vers Gili encore 3h minimum ou alors choisir le sud Kuta Lombok que j'aime bien avec les plages encore très préservées de Mawun et Selong Blanak .. autrement els fast boat oui assez trop cher à mon avis ... mais bon ... dommage que vous n'aimiez pas le scooter c'est la meilleure façon de se déplacer sur Bali .. autrement je peux vous donner les coordonnées s'un ami indonésien qui parle très bien français et très gentil qui pourra vous guider : sur Facebook Youdi guide ... voilà si vous voulez des précisions n'hésitez pas
daniel
daniel
Bonjour et merci pour votre message et tous vos bons conseils; désolé pour ma feponse tardive.
J'ai donc finalisé mon parcours et le voici:
3 nuits à Ubud
2 nuits à Munduk
2 nuits à Amed
2 nuits à Gili Air
Et 2 nuits à Sidemen
Hotels et pensions réservés
Ne me restera sur place que trouver un chauffeur pour les liaisons entre chaque site et visites, ainsi que trouver un fast boat pour la liaison Amed Gili Air
Je vous recontactera si besoin de plus d'infos
Encore merci
Bon je suis content que mes infos vous ai aidé un peu ... pour la liaison entre ces endroits et visites soit vous prenez des bus ou organisation avec d'autres touristes .. il y a de partout des infos dans les hôtels ou dans les rues qui proposent cela soit un guide et chauffeur privé si vous voulez être plus indépendant .. je peux vous indiquer un ami très sympa que vous pouvez contacter sur Facebook : Youdi quide
pour la liaison Amed Gili pas de soucis on vous le proposera de partout à Amed ... hehehe
Daniel
pour la liaison Amed Gili pas de soucis on vous le proposera de partout à Amed ... hehehe
Daniel
daniel
difficile à dire il est vrai qu'au mois de juillet pas mal de monde vont à Gili mais il y a aussi beaucoup de speed boat .. donc je pense la veille devrait le faire mais en arrivant sur Amed le mieux est de se renseigner de suite auprès de votre hôtel ...
daniel
oui bien sûr sur ubud pas de soucis vous avez des tourist infos à tous les coins de rue mais le mieux peut être est de réserver par internet c'est ce que j'ai fait la fois ou je suis allé sur Nusa Lembongan un autre île ..... regarder sur internet speed boat amed gili (je ne sais laquelle vous choisissez ..... et contacter par mail et ils viendront vous chercher à votre hôtel et retour vers l'endroit ensuite ou vous logerez au retour ...
daniel
ATTENTION A CE MONEY CHANGEUR
Si vous devez changer de l’argent, n’allez surtout pas à JAKA SHOP, Jl. Wana Segara NO 168, Kuta Bali. Le taux est bon mais malheureusement ce sont des voleurs. Ils nous ont volé environ 45€. Il a fallu les récupérer en les menaçant. (la bonne chose est que nous avons récupéré plus) Ils étaient furieux mais nous étions ravis d’avoir volé les voleurs.
CAUTION THIS MONEY CHANGER
If you need to change money , do not go to JAKA SHOP, Jl. Wana Segara No. 168, Kuta Bali. The rate is good but unfortunately they are thieves. They stole about 45 € . It took retrieve threatening them.(the good thing is that we have recovered more ) They were angry but we were delighted with stealing thieves.
If you need to change money , do not go to JAKA SHOP, Jl. Wana Segara No. 168, Kuta Bali. The rate is good but unfortunately they are thieves. They stole about 45 € . It took retrieve threatening them.(the good thing is that we have recovered more ) They were angry but we were delighted with stealing thieves.
de toute façon il ne faut jamais aller dans ce genre de change attenant à une boutique qui indique un taux supérieur qqfois sans commission mais qui ne possède pas de compteur automatique de billets et donc certain vous vous ferez avoir ... il ne faut aller que dans les changes officiels qui pratiquent de bon taux ( comparer ) sur jl legian ou kerobokan il y en a plein .. et ils vous comptent les billets sur une machine car pour 100 billets ca va plus vite ...
daniel
Bonjour Daniel,
Tout d’abord, merci beaucoup pour tous les conseils que vous donnez sur le forum ! Je me permets de vous solliciter une nouvelle fois pour en avoir d’autres !!!
Nous partons, ma copine et moi en Indonésie cet été pendant 1 mois, dans le but de rejoindre nos amis, partis en tour du monde, à Lombok les 15 derniers jours de notre voyage. Nous avons donc décidé de visiter Bali pendant les 15 premiers jours. Après avoir beaucoup réfléchi, ils nous semblent que la meilleure façon de se déplacer et de visiter l’île est le scooter. En en conduisant tous les jours, cette solution me paraît évidente. Mais je m’interroge sur plusieurs points :
- Où en louer ? (prenant le bateau en fin de séjour à Padangbai pour aller sur Gili Air puis Lombok, il me semblait qu’en arrivant à l’aéroport, il serait judicieux de prendre un taxi directement pour PadangBai et de louer notre scooter pour 15 jours d’ici. Nous n’avons pas l’intention de visiter trop le sud, préférant fuir les endroits très touristiques. Ainsi, nous pourrions faire une boucle dans l’île à partir de Padangbay. Qu’en pensez-vous ? Peut-être qu’un autre endroit est préférable pour débuter la boucle, ainsi nous prendrions un taxi pour Padangbay ?)
- Ma copine n’ayant jamais conduis de scooter et n’ayant pas l’envie de se lancer, pensez-vous qu’à 2, sur 1 scooter avec 1 sac à dos chacun, il est possible de se déplacer assez facilement ?
- Nous avons l’intention, notamment pour faire le mont Batur ou différente randonnée / treck / rafting, de laisser le scooter 1 ou 2 jours. Cela est-il envisageable ? (risque de vol, de dégradation ? Mafia de Batur ????)
- Que faire des casques lors des visites ? N’est-ce pas trop encombrant en plus des sacs ?
Merci beaucoup
Tout d’abord, merci beaucoup pour tous les conseils que vous donnez sur le forum ! Je me permets de vous solliciter une nouvelle fois pour en avoir d’autres !!!
Nous partons, ma copine et moi en Indonésie cet été pendant 1 mois, dans le but de rejoindre nos amis, partis en tour du monde, à Lombok les 15 derniers jours de notre voyage. Nous avons donc décidé de visiter Bali pendant les 15 premiers jours. Après avoir beaucoup réfléchi, ils nous semblent que la meilleure façon de se déplacer et de visiter l’île est le scooter. En en conduisant tous les jours, cette solution me paraît évidente. Mais je m’interroge sur plusieurs points :
- Où en louer ? (prenant le bateau en fin de séjour à Padangbai pour aller sur Gili Air puis Lombok, il me semblait qu’en arrivant à l’aéroport, il serait judicieux de prendre un taxi directement pour PadangBai et de louer notre scooter pour 15 jours d’ici. Nous n’avons pas l’intention de visiter trop le sud, préférant fuir les endroits très touristiques. Ainsi, nous pourrions faire une boucle dans l’île à partir de Padangbay. Qu’en pensez-vous ? Peut-être qu’un autre endroit est préférable pour débuter la boucle, ainsi nous prendrions un taxi pour Padangbay ?)
- Ma copine n’ayant jamais conduis de scooter et n’ayant pas l’envie de se lancer, pensez-vous qu’à 2, sur 1 scooter avec 1 sac à dos chacun, il est possible de se déplacer assez facilement ?
- Nous avons l’intention, notamment pour faire le mont Batur ou différente randonnée / treck / rafting, de laisser le scooter 1 ou 2 jours. Cela est-il envisageable ? (risque de vol, de dégradation ? Mafia de Batur ????)
- Que faire des casques lors des visites ? N’est-ce pas trop encombrant en plus des sacs ?
Merci beaucoup
Bonjour ben pas évident de répondre à vos questions .. il est certain que moi je conseille en effet le scooter pour visiter bali c'est ce qui est le mieux .. facile à conduire ce sont des 110CC souvent automatique type Honda vario .. ou équivalent .. vous pouvez les louer partout mais certes le prix sera moins cher vers Legian ou on peut trouver pour 50 000 Rp par jour ( 3.30 euros ) plus cher surement sur padang bai peut être 60 000rp ou alors en arrivant si vous voulez éviter le sud aller directement sur Ubud qui est assez central et à ne pas louper car très bel endroit pour la danse, la peinture, les rizières , le babi guling etc ... et là oui vous pouvez louer votre scooter et à la fin il y a des navettes qui vous emmèneront directement sur Padang bai et Gili air ( à négocier sur Ubud ) a deux sur un scooter avec les sacs ca le fait pas .. je vois pas comment ou alors il vous faut des sacs de 40L maxi .. un devant entre les jambes du scooter et il vous faut un automatique vario car plus de place et un porter par votre copine ... bon mais c'est vraiment facile à conduire .. jai pas mal d'amis qui l'on fait pour la, première fois et trop heureux .. sentiment de liberté .. par contre n'oublier pas votre permis international voiture .. tamponné moto moins de 125CC .... pour les arrêts vous avez une système nyeman et blocaage de clef qui empêche en principe les vols et vous pouvez attachés les casques sous le siège demander au loueur de vous montrer ... et il y a tellement de scooter sur Bali que ... le Batur c'est chouette mais trop de monde et un peu arnaque payer 30 euros pour suivre un chemin facile de montée mais bon la vue d'en haut est superbe .. par contre si vous allez sur Lombok je vous conseilles plutôt de faire le Rinjani si vous êtes en forme physique 3 j et 2 nuits et là oui le guide et les porteurs s'imposent et le coût environ 100 euros tout compris ... voilà
daniel
Bonjour
Nous sommes une famille de 5 : 3 enfants de 8 12 et 14 ans habitués aux voyages. Nous revenons de 5 mois en Amérique du Sud et nous aimerions découvrir une autre partie du monde l'été prochain. Côté finance après un congé sabbatique nous devons faire attention et nous sommes coincés sur le mois d'aout . Nous avons donc choisi de partir en indonésie / climat et budget. Nous pensons être 3 semaines completes (hors voyage) sur place. Nous sommes un peu inquiets de l'affluence car nous n'aimons pas la foule et fuyons le tourisme de masse. En revanche nous adorons les animaux marins et terrestres, la voile et la randonnée. A première vue je visais Bali , Lombok , Java. Qu'enpensez vous ? auriez vous un itinéraire à me conseiller ? D'un point de vue aérien depuis la France quelle compagnie priviligiez vous ? aterrissage à Denpasar ?
J'ai noté dans vos posts les temples à préférer pour avoir moins de monde.
merci de vos conseils Anne
Nous sommes une famille de 5 : 3 enfants de 8 12 et 14 ans habitués aux voyages. Nous revenons de 5 mois en Amérique du Sud et nous aimerions découvrir une autre partie du monde l'été prochain. Côté finance après un congé sabbatique nous devons faire attention et nous sommes coincés sur le mois d'aout . Nous avons donc choisi de partir en indonésie / climat et budget. Nous pensons être 3 semaines completes (hors voyage) sur place. Nous sommes un peu inquiets de l'affluence car nous n'aimons pas la foule et fuyons le tourisme de masse. En revanche nous adorons les animaux marins et terrestres, la voile et la randonnée. A première vue je visais Bali , Lombok , Java. Qu'enpensez vous ? auriez vous un itinéraire à me conseiller ? D'un point de vue aérien depuis la France quelle compagnie priviligiez vous ? aterrissage à Denpasar ?
J'ai noté dans vos posts les temples à préférer pour avoir moins de monde.
merci de vos conseils Anne
Bonjour,
nous sommes allés 4 semaines en Indonésie cet été, avec deux enfants de 9 et 15 ans.
Nous sommes arrivés à Jakarta (vols moins chers) puis avons pris un vol Air asia pour Yogyakarta (prévoir 3 heures de mou car changement de terminal)
A java : Yogyakarta (borobudur et prambanan) puis mont bromo et kawah ijen C'est l'étape du voyage que nous avons préféré , je ne peux que la conseiller même si c'est très fatigant (temps de transport et lever en pleine nuit pour les levers du soleil) Les volcans sont absolument magnifiques et la ville de Yogyakarta super sympa pour une pause de quelques jours. A noter : pour rejoindre Yogyakarta à Bromo et Kawah ijen, il est possible de prendre des tours en agence au départ de Yogya, mais temps de trajet très long ... en famille, il est plus intéressant coté budget de prendre le train + un chauffeur privé et c'est plus confortable
A bali, nous ne sommes pas allés plus au sud d'Ubud pour éviter la foule. Et avons choisi de ne visiter que quelques temples (bratan, batukau et tirta empul). Les enfants après en avoir vu 2 ou 3, ça leur suffit. A Bali, voici l'itinéraire que nous avons fait en 2 semaines en prenant notre temps : - Arrivée en ferry de Java puis stop de 2/3 jours à Pemuteran (avec plongée et snorkeling dans la réserve de Menjangan. Génial ! Pemuteran est un petit village (en réalité une route avec des guesthouse et hotels de chaque coté) mais n'est pas très touristique pour autant. Finalement, peu de touristes vont jusque là et l'ambiance est très sympa. Nous avons adoré ! - Ensuite, nous avons passé 2 nuits à Munduk. Calme et reposant, nous recommandons. là encore, très peu de monde. - Nous avons ensuite passé 5 jours à Ubud. Nous n'avons pas aimé le centre ville (trop de boutiques et beaucoup de monde) mais un bon endroit pour visiter les alentours (rizières, temples ...). Faire également un spectacle de danse. Nous avons beaucoup aimé le temple Tirta Empul et Gunung Kawi, mais prévoir d'y aller de bonne heure pour éviter les cars de touristes. - Enfin, nous sommes allés à Amed dans l'est. Mon mari et ma fille ont passé leur Open water à Tulamben. C'était fabuleux. on y serait bien restés plus longtemps dans ce coin tranquille de bali, et encore très authentique ... Enfin, nous sommes partis à Gili air. Nous avons été assez décus. Oui, c'est beau mais c'est très touristique même si certains endroits de l'ile sont encore calmes. Et puis, nous n'avons pas pu faire beaucoup de snorkeling car des bancs de méduses ... et le corail est très endommagé. Nous avons largement préféré le snorkeling dans la baie d'Amed (Jemeluk beach)
En 3 semaines, en choisissant bien vos arrêts, vous pouvez vous faire plaisir tout évitant la foule en haute saison : Snorkeling : Pemuteran et Amed sans hésitation ! Randonnées : Munduk et Ubud Paysages : les volcans à Java (Bromo et Kawah Ijen) Plongée : Tulamben
Je suis disponible si vous souhaitez plus d'infos,
ps : nous partons en tour du monde à la fin de l'année, et nous finirons par 5 mois en Amérique du Sud et centrale, je suis preneuse de vos conseils en MP ....
Cordialement, Brenda
nous sommes allés 4 semaines en Indonésie cet été, avec deux enfants de 9 et 15 ans.
Nous sommes arrivés à Jakarta (vols moins chers) puis avons pris un vol Air asia pour Yogyakarta (prévoir 3 heures de mou car changement de terminal)
A java : Yogyakarta (borobudur et prambanan) puis mont bromo et kawah ijen C'est l'étape du voyage que nous avons préféré , je ne peux que la conseiller même si c'est très fatigant (temps de transport et lever en pleine nuit pour les levers du soleil) Les volcans sont absolument magnifiques et la ville de Yogyakarta super sympa pour une pause de quelques jours. A noter : pour rejoindre Yogyakarta à Bromo et Kawah ijen, il est possible de prendre des tours en agence au départ de Yogya, mais temps de trajet très long ... en famille, il est plus intéressant coté budget de prendre le train + un chauffeur privé et c'est plus confortable
A bali, nous ne sommes pas allés plus au sud d'Ubud pour éviter la foule. Et avons choisi de ne visiter que quelques temples (bratan, batukau et tirta empul). Les enfants après en avoir vu 2 ou 3, ça leur suffit. A Bali, voici l'itinéraire que nous avons fait en 2 semaines en prenant notre temps : - Arrivée en ferry de Java puis stop de 2/3 jours à Pemuteran (avec plongée et snorkeling dans la réserve de Menjangan. Génial ! Pemuteran est un petit village (en réalité une route avec des guesthouse et hotels de chaque coté) mais n'est pas très touristique pour autant. Finalement, peu de touristes vont jusque là et l'ambiance est très sympa. Nous avons adoré ! - Ensuite, nous avons passé 2 nuits à Munduk. Calme et reposant, nous recommandons. là encore, très peu de monde. - Nous avons ensuite passé 5 jours à Ubud. Nous n'avons pas aimé le centre ville (trop de boutiques et beaucoup de monde) mais un bon endroit pour visiter les alentours (rizières, temples ...). Faire également un spectacle de danse. Nous avons beaucoup aimé le temple Tirta Empul et Gunung Kawi, mais prévoir d'y aller de bonne heure pour éviter les cars de touristes. - Enfin, nous sommes allés à Amed dans l'est. Mon mari et ma fille ont passé leur Open water à Tulamben. C'était fabuleux. on y serait bien restés plus longtemps dans ce coin tranquille de bali, et encore très authentique ... Enfin, nous sommes partis à Gili air. Nous avons été assez décus. Oui, c'est beau mais c'est très touristique même si certains endroits de l'ile sont encore calmes. Et puis, nous n'avons pas pu faire beaucoup de snorkeling car des bancs de méduses ... et le corail est très endommagé. Nous avons largement préféré le snorkeling dans la baie d'Amed (Jemeluk beach)
En 3 semaines, en choisissant bien vos arrêts, vous pouvez vous faire plaisir tout évitant la foule en haute saison : Snorkeling : Pemuteran et Amed sans hésitation ! Randonnées : Munduk et Ubud Paysages : les volcans à Java (Bromo et Kawah Ijen) Plongée : Tulamben
Je suis disponible si vous souhaitez plus d'infos,
ps : nous partons en tour du monde à la fin de l'année, et nous finirons par 5 mois en Amérique du Sud et centrale, je suis preneuse de vos conseils en MP ....
Cordialement, Brenda
Un grand merci pour tous ses conseils je vais prendre le temps d'analyser en détails vos conseils;
Avec plaisir pour échanger sur l'Amerique du Sud notre blog http://les-saint-genois-autour-du-monde.jimdo.com/
Quelle chance de partir en tour du monde ! si vous voulez n'hesitez pas à nous contacter à annechoukroun5@gmail.com nous aidons déjà une famille à préparer le leur sur Lyon pour cette partie d'Amerique du Sud. Combien de temps partez vous ? Nous allons essayer de repartir 5 mois en 2018 (année de seconde de notre fils).
Anne
Bonjour
toujours difficile de conseiller et surtout au mois d'Aout ou forcément vous aurez plus de monde partout .. L'(Indonésie et en premier Bali deviennent des destinations de plus en plus touristiques vu que les pays comme l'Egypte, la Tunisie etc... sont moins sûrs ...
Je vous conseille de venir sur Faacebook vous joindre à un groupe dans lequel je suis actif aussi et qui se nomme : Découvrons lindonésie et ses bons plans ....
Pour les Iles à privilégier il faudra faire un choix surtout si vous êtes en famille pour prévoir des temps de repos, de snorkelling et de marches ...
moi à priori après un atterrissage à Denpasar Bali et deux ou trois jours en bord de mer .. sur Jimbaran ou Uluwatu je vous conseille de changer d'Iles et d'aller soit sur Lombok .. en évitant les gilis noir de monde mais préférer le Rinjani superbe volcan soit pour une demi ascsion jusqu'au lac car le sommet est vraiment hard pour des enfants ... et les rizières et cascades au pied du volcan ... Kuta Lombok au sud ou de magnifiques plages avec possibilité de surf ..
et puis réserver 15 jours pour aller sur Flores soit en avion soit en bateau depuis Lombok ( " jours et 2 nuits de navigation avec arrêt pour du snorkelling et voir les dragons de Komodo ...
voilà juste un aperçu et mon avis ... parcourez le lonely planet Indonésie assez complet ....
J'ai chaque année des amis justement un couple et trois enfants du même âge que j'emmène et ils dépensent environ 120 Euros par jour tout compris ..
autre endroit magnifique pour les enfants Kalimentan ( Bornéeo ) pour aller voir les Orngs Outangs ... faites votre choix
Daniel
toujours difficile de conseiller et surtout au mois d'Aout ou forcément vous aurez plus de monde partout .. L'(Indonésie et en premier Bali deviennent des destinations de plus en plus touristiques vu que les pays comme l'Egypte, la Tunisie etc... sont moins sûrs ...
Je vous conseille de venir sur Faacebook vous joindre à un groupe dans lequel je suis actif aussi et qui se nomme : Découvrons lindonésie et ses bons plans ....
Pour les Iles à privilégier il faudra faire un choix surtout si vous êtes en famille pour prévoir des temps de repos, de snorkelling et de marches ...
moi à priori après un atterrissage à Denpasar Bali et deux ou trois jours en bord de mer .. sur Jimbaran ou Uluwatu je vous conseille de changer d'Iles et d'aller soit sur Lombok .. en évitant les gilis noir de monde mais préférer le Rinjani superbe volcan soit pour une demi ascsion jusqu'au lac car le sommet est vraiment hard pour des enfants ... et les rizières et cascades au pied du volcan ... Kuta Lombok au sud ou de magnifiques plages avec possibilité de surf ..
et puis réserver 15 jours pour aller sur Flores soit en avion soit en bateau depuis Lombok ( " jours et 2 nuits de navigation avec arrêt pour du snorkelling et voir les dragons de Komodo ...
voilà juste un aperçu et mon avis ... parcourez le lonely planet Indonésie assez complet ....
J'ai chaque année des amis justement un couple et trois enfants du même âge que j'emmène et ils dépensent environ 120 Euros par jour tout compris ..
autre endroit magnifique pour les enfants Kalimentan ( Bornéeo ) pour aller voir les Orngs Outangs ... faites votre choix
Daniel
daniel
Merci beaucoup de vos conseils avisés. Donc plutot Bali / lombok voir Flores plutot que Java / bali / lombok par rapport à nos critères.
Avez vous une compagnie aerienne à me conseiller depuis la France / lyon ? Le trajet est vraiment long...
Anne
Bonjour
ce n'est que mon avis personnel .. chaque ïle présente un intérêt et j'aime aussi beaucoup Java avec les volcans Bromo, Kawah Ijen .. Yogjakarta qui est une ville très attachante avec bien sûr les sites de Prambanan et Borobodur ... t pour le snorkelling et les plages Karimunjawa au nord ...
Mais bon vous devrez choisir et je trouve Lombok plus facile et attachante aussi et Flores très diverse avec le volcan Kelimutu .. les villages Ngada près de Bajawa ... les ïles magnifiques autour de Labuhanbajo ou on peut nager avec les raies mantas et bien sûr Rinca et Komodo pour approcher ( pas trop près ) les famaux dragons ..
Pour la compagnie aérienne difficile de vous conseiller ... il y a les compagnies Qatar et Emirates qui permettent de couper le vol en deux parties si les temps d'attente ne sont pas trop long dans les aéroports ..... autrement Turkish Airlines qui a des promotions je crois ....China aussi ... etc....
moi en décembre je reviens en France avec Qatar qui a le meilleur prix et juste 2h à Doha de transit ... mais j'au un ami qui est venu en Octobre avec Thai qui faisait une promotion depuis Lyon à 480 euros AR ...
en réservant en avance vous pouvez obtenir un meilleur prix en consultant des sites comme LILIGO
amitiés
Daniel
ce n'est que mon avis personnel .. chaque ïle présente un intérêt et j'aime aussi beaucoup Java avec les volcans Bromo, Kawah Ijen .. Yogjakarta qui est une ville très attachante avec bien sûr les sites de Prambanan et Borobodur ... t pour le snorkelling et les plages Karimunjawa au nord ...
Mais bon vous devrez choisir et je trouve Lombok plus facile et attachante aussi et Flores très diverse avec le volcan Kelimutu .. les villages Ngada près de Bajawa ... les ïles magnifiques autour de Labuhanbajo ou on peut nager avec les raies mantas et bien sûr Rinca et Komodo pour approcher ( pas trop près ) les famaux dragons ..
Pour la compagnie aérienne difficile de vous conseiller ... il y a les compagnies Qatar et Emirates qui permettent de couper le vol en deux parties si les temps d'attente ne sont pas trop long dans les aéroports ..... autrement Turkish Airlines qui a des promotions je crois ....China aussi ... etc....
moi en décembre je reviens en France avec Qatar qui a le meilleur prix et juste 2h à Doha de transit ... mais j'au un ami qui est venu en Octobre avec Thai qui faisait une promotion depuis Lyon à 480 euros AR ...
en réservant en avance vous pouvez obtenir un meilleur prix en consultant des sites comme LILIGO
amitiés
Daniel
daniel
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Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
