Bonjour nous sommes deux personnes, deux gars de 25 ans. Je me tâte a partir sans agence en Birmanie en novembre décembre 15 jours, mais entre les rumeurs " guide obligatoire " , je me pose pas mal de questions... Je sais que le pays est safe/ sur niveau sécurité pour les touristes, donc de ce coté je m'inquiète pas. Mais pour l'organisation, la bouffe et l'herbegement c'est autre chose/ Bon on a le teps d'ici décembre mais sait t'on jamais...
Y a t'il des routards sur ce forum qui ont fait 15 jours en Birmanie sans guide, à pied, en train en taxi, bateaux et qui ont , un itinéraire à proposer, un retour d'expérience, quelques conseils ?
Autre question:
Economise t'on beaucoup à partir nous même par rapport à une agence comme nomade ou gulliver-myanmar qui sont les moins chers pour ce pays d'après mes recherches...?
j'ai fait la Birmanie en février, pendant 12 jours, en routard à 3. En effet, au niveau sécurité vraiment aucun souci.
je peux te donner quelques conseils, notamment sur l'hébergement qui a été notre souci majeur, ainsi que l'argent liquide. Ne te fie pas aux guides papiers sur la destination qui ont "oublié" de mettre à jour les prix des chambres, vraiment pas données pour des prestations franchement glauques (environ 40USD par chambre), et comme le pays a encore très peu d'hébergements, dont beaucoup trustés par le gouvernement, les places sont chères. Nous n'avions rien réservé et nous nous sommes fait peur plusieurs fois. Nous étions 3 donc plus difficiles à caser quand même. Si tu arrives a contacter certaines guesthouses ou hotels de la France (pas facile) prévois au moins ta première nuit à Rangoon.
à cause de ces prix non prévus et de l'impossibilité de tirer de l'argent sur place, nous avons été très justes sur les derniers jours. Un conseil prend de la marge en liquide, garde des grosses coupures de dollars US ou d'euros, nickels, en réserve. Pas de souci de sécurité, si on les prend à voler là-bas ils prennent cher.
à part ça, on mange dans les bouis-bouis pour pas cher, on peut bouger par soi_même en louant des chauffeurs pour la journée, on a pris un bus denuit, des avions (très pratique et rapide), un bateau, tout ça facile à réserver sur place.
pays magnifique même si on n'en voit que ce qu'ils veulent bien nous montrer, même en routard, des enfants à la pelle qui vous saluent et vous sourient, un vrai bonheur!!
un monde à part!!
Vous y gagnerez financièrement à voyager par vos propres moyens plutôt qu'avec une agence. Le seul souci, ce sera la réservation des guesthouses, surtout en novembre, la haute saison. Car depuis près d'un an, il y a beaucoup plus de touristes qui se rendent dans ce merveilleux pays et la construction d'hôtels pour les accueillir n'a pas suivi.
Pour visiter sinon, pas besoin spécialement de guide, hormis si vous allez dans des régions qui réclament un permis d'accès : Loikaw, Putao ou encore des destinations comme les villages de montagne autour de Kengtung.
Bonjour merci pour ces premiers conseils , en effet j'ai remarqué qu'il y a des vols aller retour pour moins de 700/ 750 euros de paris vers rangoons en faisant escale à Bangkok , en fait l'idée serait de faire un itinéraire jour par jour, le respecter et réserver les guest house bien avant , les vols intérieurs aussi, après le reste bah ca nous mènes là ca devra nous mener, les trains, etc on vois sur place...
Avec un guide du routard, une carte et quelques préparatifs je pense que c'est faisable et nous éviter de faire du treck avec trop de touriste...maintenant je connais peu les risques du pays, mais je ne m'inquiète pas trop, je commence à voyager pas mal et je suis plutôt prévoyant .
Je regarde quand même du coté des agences locals, qui pourraient aider à encadrer un minimum ( réservation guest house etc ) comme gulliver Myanmar mais j'attends de voir ce qu'il me propose.
J'aimerais également dormir dans un monastère, donc peut être faire un treck sur trois jours puis faire ce genre d'expérience pour être avec la population local, leur culture, mais là il me faut un guide bien sur...si vous avez des contacts.
Nous avons visité la Birmanie en Mars 2006, seuls, sans agence
et nous pouvons t'assurer que pendant 28 jours nous nous sommes régalés.
Cet en Birmanie que nous avons rencontré un peuple d'une grande gentillesse,
sans doute un des plus aimable d'Asie.
Nous nous sommes déplacés en Bus Train Bâteau en toute sécurité.
Vas y tu ne le regretteras pas, bien sur tu risques d'avoir de petites déceptions
que tu oublieras rapidement.Prépare ton voyage, pour notre part le routard
nous a été d'un grand secours et puis tu rencontras des voyageurs comme toi qui
te donneront de bons conseils.
Bonjour
Oui tu peux voyager sans problème sous les réserves évoquées dans les différents posts, pour le logement, les vols éventuellement, par contre si tu veux dans ton trek "etre avec la population locale, leur culture" un guide est indispensable pour les traductions avec les locaux dans les villages ou meme au monastère ou ils viennent (dans mon expérience) regarder la télévision. Sans compter aussi dans la région de Kengtung comme le précise Kristofe.
Bonne préparation
Eric
Merci pour vos réponses, c'est décidé on part par nous même, j'ai pesé le pour et le contre
bien sur tu risques d'avoir de petites déceptions
que tu oublieras rapidement
C'est a dire? 😄, il y à toujours de surprises en voyage c'est sur...
Alors par contre on m'a conseillé de tout réserver (vols intérieurs, hotels ) rapidement car c'est vite plein à cette période de l'année...donc je reviens à la charge sur le topic
donc en 15 jours je pense faire un itinéraire conseillé par le routard , j'ai pas encore regarder jour par jour, mais si vous avez un itinéraire de vécu sur ces principaux sites cités ci après, merci de me guider sur vos points de chute au soir ( hotels etc ) et vos moyens de déplacements entre ces lieux:
Yangon, le lac Inle, Mandalay et Bagan en 15 jours ( voir kalaw inle dans cette itinéraire)
Sinon je prendrais plus ou moins un itinéraire d'une agence et je ferais à ma sauce.
Mes questions:
Yangon vaut t'il vraiment le coup?
J'aimerais inclure aussi Kalaw et faire un treck avec un hotel, il me semble que c'est le EASTERN PARADISE/ KALAW INLE
Possible d'inclure Kalaw en 15 jours?
Si je demande ces conseils c'est que sur 15 jours, je sais que les transports peuvent être long et pas confortable dans ce pays vue l'état des routes et des conditions des transports en commun.
Pour Yangon vers le lac inle je me tate à prendre le bus pour voir le pays mais je sais que c'est 15 heure, et ca risque d'être fatiguant, donc l'avion serait plus judicieux selon vous entre yangon et lac inle?
J1/ Paris - Rangoon
J2/ visite de Rangoon
J3/ vols vers Mandalay et visites
J4/visite de mandalay et Amarapura, Sagaing ??
J5/ route vers Monywa en bus ( 3h30 de bus approximativement )
J6/ Pakokku, ville un peu plus bas
J7/ Bagan
J8: Bagan
J9: Bagan - Kalaw
J10: Kalaw et treck
J11: Kalaw
J12: Lac Inlé
J13: Lac Inlé
J14: Lac Inlé vers rangoon (train ou bus )
J15: vol rangoon vers Paris
Voila :) reste a trouver des hotels dans toutes ces zones. et réserver le tout
Coucou !!!!!!!
J'ai qd -mme un doute sur tes vols d'Europe vers Yangon ... Tant à l'aller qu'au retour ... Tu comptes une journée par trajet , mais as-tu déjà trouvé les vols avec tts les correspondances adéquates ... ?
Sinon , je t'assure que ton projet , c'est la course , tu vas passer ton temps ds les transports et finalement tu vas louper l'essentiel , s'en mettre plein les yeux et le coeur ....
Sinon , je t'assure que ton projet , c'est la course , tu vas passer ton temps ds les transports et finalement tu vas louper l'essentiel , s'en mettre plein les yeux et le coeur ....
Que me conseillerez tu alors? j'ai pris cet itinéraire d'une agence mais du coup je pense m'attardais plus sur bagan et le lac inlé et kalaw, supprimer donc mandaly , amarapura et sagaing pour se poser un peu plus et vraiment être dans le pays, dans les zones plus rural que les grandes villes ...
Je ne suis pas très ville et gros site touristiques , même si les palais sont beau je pense qu'on peut en effet supprimer certaines haltes citées plus haut
Pour les vols non j'attend d'avoir des dates fixées pour ca, on à pas encore décidé du jour de départ...ca avance ;)
C'est compliqué de conseiller quand on aime tout en Birmanie , toutefois la ville de Mandalay , c'est ce qui me plaît , le moins ....
Mais les sites aux alentours sont chouettes ...
Bon d'accord , ça ne fait pas avancer le schmilblick ... 😉
Bah , tu fais comme moi , tu te dis que tu y retourneras ....
Essaies de voir avec la THAI depuis Bxl , j'ai payé 684 euros pour Bkk A/R et mon Bkk - Ygn , 90 euros A/R .
La Thai a 3 vols par semaine , je crois le mardi , jeudi , samedi . Départ 13H30 de Bxl .
Tu arrives à 5h35 AM à Bkk , cependant tu ne choperas pas le Air Asia de 7 h 15 .... Le suivant est vers 16 h .
Prends ton temps à Bagan , à Inlé et 1 jour de plus à Yangon , n'oublies pas que tu seras en jetlag , les 1ers jours et aussi les nuits 🤪
Belle prépa !!!
N'hésites pas si tu as des ? ...
Rangoon
Merci rangoon , tu as l'air bien renseigné sur ce pays ! alors pour les vols c'est bon on part de Bruxelles en effet on à des vols aller retour autours de 900 euros pour notre période, mais on a pas encore comparé autours de ces dates , on part vers le 23 novembre...et retour vers le week end du 7 décembre
On est deux on va prendre des chambres doubles, quel budget nous conseillez vous pour hébergement, vols intérieur, transport et nourriture sur place pour ces 15 jours? un budget de 900/1000 euros / personne nous suffirait? J'arrive pas à évaluer, surtout qu'il faut prévoir les coupures sur place, vue qu'il n'y à pas de retrait...
Nous avons dépensé 15e par jour et par personne environ en voyageant uniquement en bus (souvent de nuit) en allant dans les hotels les plus abordables en mangeant dans les gargottes.
Bref pour 15 jours 1000e par personne c'est du grand grand luxe pour moi :) Ce devrait être largement suffisant je pense.
Je suis revenue de 15 jours en Birmanie il y a 2 semaines. Nous étions 2 amies, et 1 Lonely Planet ;).
Nous avons simplement pris une guide pour le trek Kalaw/Inle, 3 jours 2 nuits. Très beau, marche plutôt tranquille, logement chez des habitants curieux de nous connaitre. Pour les autres endroits dits touristiques, pas besoin de guide.
On était en basse saison, et déjà à Nyaung shwe (Inle) certains hotels étaient complets. Selon différentes personnes rencontrées là-bas, les hotels de Bagan sont complets en haute saison. Bref question logement a priori vous devez réserver si vous voulez être tranquilles en arrivant.
Il faisait extrêmement chaud, et on avait seulement 14 jours sur place, donc on a zappé Mandalay, pour privilégier Bagan (hors du temps, vraiment magique, 3 jours), et Inle (5 jours). 2 jours à Yangon, 3 jours de marche, et c'était bouclé!
Concernant les transports, le bus est bon marché par rapport à l'avion, mais tellement inconfortable et fatigant (9h entre bagan et kalaw) qu'on ne l'a pris qu'une fois. L'avion est rapide mais cher.... Facile à réserver sur place en BASSE saison, de nombreuses "agences" existent à Yangon, Bagan, Nyaung Shwe.
Enfin pour le budget j'ai dépense 800$ + 150€, les prix du Lonely ne sont plus vrais du tout. On trouve difficilement une chambre propre à moins de 15/20$. J'ai changé en kyats les 150€ et 400$. J'ai rapporté 250$ non utilisés.
C'était un voyage fabuleux, des gens d'une gentillesse rare, très très curieux de voir des étrangères, le dépaysement est total.
Bien sûr le tourisme se développant, on se fait de plus en plus suivre par des vendeurs ambulants... c'est la rançon du succès...
Superbe Claouate , ca donne vraiment envie de partir par nous même , j'ai que des bons echoes des voyage en sac a dos dans ce pays!
Pour les hotels on compte de toute façon réserver avant d'arriver bien à l'avance, on veux être sur d'avoir un endroit ou dormir le soir pour éviter ce genre de stress sur place, c'est vite la panique quand on sait pas ou dormir après une bonne fatigue. Et on veux pas transporter une tente , on voyage léger...
Pouvez vous me donner votre contact/ guide pour le trek Kalaw/Inle, 3 jours 2 nuits?
Sam's Family, à Kalaw. Recommandé par le Routard et la Lonely. On est partis avec une guide et un cuisinier. C'était la moins chère des 2 agences qu'on avait vues.
On est proche du but pour tout, et on part bien par nous même, ca va le faire :), de plus que j'ai lu pas mal de sujets que les birmans apprécie les touristes " sac a dos" plutôt que les grands groupes, grandes agences qui ne privilégie pas forcement les rencontres et l'économie des habitants mais parfois celle de la junte, même si on y échappe pas en prenant l'avion, je préfère contrôler et savoir ou va mon argent dans ce pays après renseignement en profondeur sur l'histoire de la Birmanie.
alors il reste juste un point que j'ai ptet pas assuré concernant mon itinéraire, c'est autours de mandalay, ( jours 4 et 5 ) j'ai suivi les conseils de rangoon plus haut pour rester plus longtemps à des endroits et vraiment être au coeur du pays.
J1/ Paris – Rangoon
J2/ visite de Rangoon
J3/ vols vers Mandalay et visites
J4/ bref séjour a mandalay ? ( que faire en priorité dans cette zone? )
J5/ route vers Monywa en bus ou rester sur Mandalay? ( 3h30 de bus approximativement )-(que faire en priorité dans cette zone? )
J6/ Bagan
J7/ Bagan
J8: Bagan
J9: Bagan route vers kalaw
J10: Kalaw et treck d'un jour ou deux ??
J11: Kalaw
J12: Lac Inlé
J13: Lac Inlé
J14: rangoon ou retour vers rangoon-(We arrange flight ticket heho to yangon, and hotel in Yangon).
J15: vol rangoon vers Paris
que me conseillez vous pour ces jours 4 et 5 , ou alors je ne reste pas sur Mandalay et on va direct sur Bagan et on reste plus longtemps sur un treck à Kalaw, ce qui ferais cette itinéraire plus concentré et ptet moins speed mais ptet plus vivant, moins stressant après mes recherches:
J1/ Paris – Rangoon
J2/ visite de Rangoon
J3/ vols vers Bagan
J4/ Bagan
J5/ Bagan
J6/ Bagan
J7/ Bagan> kalaw
J8: kalaw treck
J9: kalaw treck
J10: kalaw > inle
J11: Lac inle
J12: Lac Inlé
J13: Lac Inlé
J14: rangoon ou retour vers rangoon-(We arrange flight ticket heho to yangon, and hotel in Yangon).
J15: vol rangoon vers Paris
Bonjour Koaster, j'ai lu ton post, nous envisageons aussi un voyage en Birmanie pour début 2013 , nous avons la soixantaine (petite😄 eh oui!), nous somme habitués à voyager en Asie mais j'avoue que la Birmanie me pose quelques soucis d'organisation (argent liquide, réservation des vols intérieurs et hôtels ) nous serions heureux si tu pouvais nous donner quelques tuyaux pour la résa des vols intérueurs depuis la France, pour les hôtels je pense que sur"booking.com" nous devrions en trouver quelques-uns).Merci d'avance.
Je relance juste le topic, pour mon deuxième itinéraire qui me semble être le bon, mais je ne sais pas si ca vaut le coup de visiter rangoon le jour 2 ou d'aller directement vers la région de Bagan qui me semble plus intéréssente.
Nous avons déjà nos billets; une fois notre itinéraire valider, je réserve quelques hotels, voir avec une agence locale que j'ai repéré.
Nous avons déjà nos billets d'avions'agit-il des vols intérieurs ? Si oui sur quel site les as-tu réservés
Bonjour, non ce se sont les vols internationaux , on a essayé ce soir de réserver nos vols intérieurs pour novembre mais je crois qu'il est encore trop tôt çà ne marchais pas...sur www.airbagan.com ou http://www.asianwingsair.com ou encore airmandalay.com
Nous sommes en juin et c'est vrai que nous nous prenons peut être tôt pour reserver les vols intérieurs, mais comme on a dja notre itinéraire jour par jour, on s'était dit de réserver rapidement mais ca pas l'air de marcher pour le moment. Sur Airmandalay les réservations fonctionnent en juillet aout etc mais pas en novembre..donc je pense que c'est normal, il faut être patient.
Bonsoir,
Désolée de ne pouvoir répondre à la question.J'ai lu avec intérêt tout ce qui a été dit parce que nous pensons partir en Birmanie en Février prochain.Si tu peux faire un petit topo au retour, ça peut nous aider à monter notre projet.Merci et bonnes vacances.
C'est normal en Birmanie il y a les horaires été et hiver et ceux pour la fin de l'année ne sont pas encore publiés .
Sinon , tu passes par mon amie à Rangoon , elle peut te les réserver .
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Bonjour je souhaite diviser mon séjour en 2 parties soit 15 jours à phuket et 15 jours sur krabi. Savez-vous si je peux louer une voiture et la rendre a krabi lors de mon retour en France
Merci de vos retours
Bon dimanche
Martine
Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé.
Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!