Myanmar: le bilan s'alourdit! (7 mai 2008)
by Filefish
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
soyons serieux, qu'est-ce que cette question ?
veuillez vous informer sur la situation du pays
ici on parle de vie et de dignite humaine bafouee
ns ne sommes pas au cafe du coin ou l'on parle pour ne rien dire
Alors agissons!
Alors agissons!
A l'instant même :
Un exilé birman en appelle la Chine La Chine détient la clé pour sauver des dizaines de milliers de gens frappés par le cyclone Nargis et doit faire pression sur la junte birmane pour qu'elle accepte l'aide internationale, a estimé un leader birman en exil et cousin d'Ang San Suu Kyi. "Sans un soutien fort et durable de la Chine, le régime militaire de Birmanie ne serait pas capable d'être ce qu'il est", a déclaré lors d'une conférence de presse à Washington Sein Win, chef d'un gouvernement birman en exil auto-proclamé.
Le politicien birman a qualifié de "criminel" le refus de la junte de permettre à l'aide internationale d'être déployée, estimant que cela était "une condamnation à mort de plusieurs milliers d'hommes, de femmes et d'enfants" qui luttent pour survivre après le passage du cyclone Nargis le wek-end dernier. "C'est une bombe à retardement", a ajouté Sein Win .
Source: AFP
Un exilé birman en appelle la Chine La Chine détient la clé pour sauver des dizaines de milliers de gens frappés par le cyclone Nargis et doit faire pression sur la junte birmane pour qu'elle accepte l'aide internationale, a estimé un leader birman en exil et cousin d'Ang San Suu Kyi. "Sans un soutien fort et durable de la Chine, le régime militaire de Birmanie ne serait pas capable d'être ce qu'il est", a déclaré lors d'une conférence de presse à Washington Sein Win, chef d'un gouvernement birman en exil auto-proclamé.
Le politicien birman a qualifié de "criminel" le refus de la junte de permettre à l'aide internationale d'être déployée, estimant que cela était "une condamnation à mort de plusieurs milliers d'hommes, de femmes et d'enfants" qui luttent pour survivre après le passage du cyclone Nargis le wek-end dernier. "C'est une bombe à retardement", a ajouté Sein Win .
Source: AFP
La Chine détient la clé pour sauver des dizaines de milliers de gens frappés par le cyclone Nargis et doit faire pression sur la junte birmane pour qu'elle accepte l'aide internationale, a estimé un leader birman en exil et cousin d'Ang San Suu Kyi.
"Sans un soutien fort et durable de la Chine, le régime militaire de Birmanie ne serait pas capable d'être ce qu'il est", a déclaré lors d'une conférence de presse à Washington Sein Win, chef d'un gouvernement birman en exil auto-proclamé.
Euh, c'est pas ce pays qui organise les jeux olympiques de cet été 😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😕
Euh, c'est pas ce pays qui organise les jeux olympiques de cet été 😕😕😕😕😕😕😕😕
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
eh ben voilà, on a tout compris!
On peut aussi appeler cela un "gros bordel mondial", tenants-aboutissants, etc...
Un exilé birman en appelle la Chine
La Chine détient la clé pour sauver des dizaines de milliers de gens frappés par le cyclone Nargis et doit faire pression sur la junte birmane pour qu'elle accepte l'aide internationale, a estimé un leader birman en exil et cousin d'Ang San Suu Kyi.
Quel manque de realisme !...si ce n'est dejà fait, il n'y a aucune chance pour que celà se fasse...Bon, je n'ai pas envie d'etre mechant mais c'est d'une telle tristesse ..et la croix et croissant rouge qui disent bien cooperer avec le regime et avoir accés au tiers des sinisrés!... l' ONU qui reclame 187 millions de USD ...le chiffre sort de quel chapeau ?
ce monde est il serieux ?
AP - il y a 15 minutes RANGOON, Birmanie - Sous la pression internationale, la junte au pouvoir en Birmanie a accepté vendredi la venue d'un unique avion-cargo américain. Deux avions de l'ONU devaient arriver samedi pour apporter de l'aide aux victimes du cyclone Nargis, qui a fait au moins 60.000 morts et disparus et plus d'un million de sans-abri. L'arrivée de trois jours de fortes pluies prévue en fin de semaine prochaine risque encore d'aggraver la situation
Quel manque de realisme !...si ce n'est dejà fait, il n'y a aucune chance pour que celà se fasse...Bon, je n'ai pas envie d'etre mechant mais c'est d'une telle tristesse ..et la croix et croissant rouge qui disent bien cooperer avec le regime et avoir accés au tiers des sinisrés!... l' ONU qui reclame 187 millions de USD ...le chiffre sort de quel chapeau ?
ce monde est il serieux ?
AP - il y a 15 minutes RANGOON, Birmanie - Sous la pression internationale, la junte au pouvoir en Birmanie a accepté vendredi la venue d'un unique avion-cargo américain. Deux avions de l'ONU devaient arriver samedi pour apporter de l'aide aux victimes du cyclone Nargis, qui a fait au moins 60.000 morts et disparus et plus d'un million de sans-abri. L'arrivée de trois jours de fortes pluies prévue en fin de semaine prochaine risque encore d'aggraver la situation
Roger
Heu....la Corée du Nord, ca te va comme protectorat chinois? 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
J'ai pas vraiment entendu dire que la Corée du Nord se préoccupait des autres mais si je me trompe faites le moi savoir 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Le monde à l'air préocupé par cette masse asiatique... Mais eux, s'occupent-ils des autres ? 🙂
je m'interroge sur l'interet de tes reponses
c'est limite si on devrait se preoccuper de la birmanie, dans le genre, y a rien a faire alors c'est pas la peine d'en parler...
Enzo, je suis d'accord avec toi (comme je l ai dis sur un post precedent), ces reponses sont surtout provovantes pour surement attiser les réactions des VFistes
je m'interroge sur l'interet de tes reponses
c'est limite si on devrait se preoccuper de la birmanie, dans le genre, y a rien a faire alors c'est pas la peine d'en parler...
Enzo, je suis d'accord avec toi (comme je l ai dis sur un post precedent), ces reponses sont surtout provovantes pour surement attiser les réactions des VFistes
ces reponses sont surtout provovantes pour surement attiser les réactions des VFistes
je n'arrive pas a cerner payo, car parfois ces posts ne sont pas du tout dénués d'intéret, ils sont pleins de reflexion, mais je pense qu'il les expriment de la mauvaise manière ! dire des vérités est souvent dérangeant pour nos confort intellectuel et nous renvoi a notre propre impuissance !
car nous aimerions tous faire quelque chose, mais ne pouvons, a part faire des dons !
j'ai eu dans une certaine vie, le temps et le pouvoir d'aller sur le terrain, mais cela fait si longtemps que j'ai perdu l'énergie de recommencer et je me sens bien impuissant aujourd'hui devant ce drame !
je n'arrive pas a cerner payo, car parfois ces posts ne sont pas du tout dénués d'intéret, ils sont pleins de reflexion, mais je pense qu'il les expriment de la mauvaise manière ! dire des vérités est souvent dérangeant pour nos confort intellectuel et nous renvoi a notre propre impuissance !
car nous aimerions tous faire quelque chose, mais ne pouvons, a part faire des dons !
j'ai eu dans une certaine vie, le temps et le pouvoir d'aller sur le terrain, mais cela fait si longtemps que j'ai perdu l'énergie de recommencer et je me sens bien impuissant aujourd'hui devant ce drame !
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Paris a annoncé l'envoi d'un bateau chargé de 1.500 tonnes de produits et de matériels, qui pourrait arriver en Birmanie mercredi ou jeudi, mais le ministre français des Affaires étrangères Bernard Kouchner a affirmé qu'il n'était "pas question de fournir une aide directe à la junte, même si elle l'accepte".
Kouchner doit avoir de mauvais souvenir des aides apportées aux pouvoirs militaires... et en même temps je vois pas trop comment ils vont s'y prendre.
Kouchner doit avoir de mauvais souvenir des aides apportées aux pouvoirs militaires... et en même temps je vois pas trop comment ils vont s'y prendre.
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Paris a annoncé l'envoi d'un bateau chargé de 1.500 tonnes de produits et de matériels, qui pourrait arriver en Birmanie mercredi ou jeudi, mais le ministre français des Affaires étrangères Bernard Kouchner a affirmé qu'il n'était "pas question de fournir une aide directe à la junte, même si elle l'accepte".
Kouchner doit avoir de mauvais souvenir des aides apportées aux pouvoirs militaires... et en même temps je vois pas trop comment ils vont s'y prendre.
Y a tout intérêt parce que maintenant, la junte est entrain de tout raffler et les pro du marché noir commencent à faire de l'or!😕 http://www.france24.com
Kouchner doit avoir de mauvais souvenir des aides apportées aux pouvoirs militaires... et en même temps je vois pas trop comment ils vont s'y prendre.
Y a tout intérêt parce que maintenant, la junte est entrain de tout raffler et les pro du marché noir commencent à faire de l'or!😕 http://www.france24.com
Tandis que les occidentaux prônent de plus fortes pressions sur la junte pour qu’elle cède et laisse entrer les secours, la Chine se pose en défenseur du libre-arbitre et met en garde contre une politisation de la situation. D’un côté, le représentant des Etats-Unis à l’ONU, Zalmay Khalizad, déclare : « Nous sommes choqués par le comportement du gouvernement (…). Accepter les offres d’aide de la communauté internationale, des Etats, des organisations internationales, cela devrait tomber sous le sens. » De l’autre, la Chine, par la voix de son ambassadeur adjoint, Liu Zhenmin, explique qu’il s’agit d’une catastrophe naturelle. Celle-ci est par conséquent du ressort des agences spécialisées de l’ONU, et en aucun cas du Conseil de sécurité, qui veille à sauvegarder la paix et la sécurité internationales.
Roger
Le monde à l'air préocupé par cette masse asiatique... Mais eux, s'occupent-ils des autres ? 🙂
Ben oui, le Darfour, la Syrie, la richesse d'Afrique etc...
Ben oui, le Darfour, la Syrie, la richesse d'Afrique etc...
Quand l'eau baisse les fourmis mangent les poissons; quand l'eau monte les poissons mangent les fourmis.
Il n'y a que le changement qui ne change pas.
No fish no noodles, just chili
Yes, just chili🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
je suis vraiment ecoeuré de ce qui se passe ... l'ONU doit intervenir et vite, il n'y a pas d'autres solutions
il n'est pas pensable de laisser mourrir 1 million de Birmans sans bouger le petit doigt ce serait le pire des crimes contre l'humanité .
Le cyclone libère la colère de Birmans, habituellement muselés par la peur, En temps normal, Aung Aung ne laisserait pas éclater sa colère, par crainte d'être épié. Mais l'incapacité du régime birman à secourir la majorité des sinistrés du cyclone Nargis commence à libérer la parole d'une population habituellement muselée. Suite ICI . 🤪


@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Je ne crois pas que aung san su kyi élévera de toute façon la voix, comment faire de toute façon ?
même si c'est peu probable, j'ai lu un article intéréssant sur mingalaba-blog ce matin, qui parle d'un possible retrounerment de situation qui profiterait enfin à une opposition y compris militaire !
et si ce scénario s'averait exact ? 🤪
Mercredi dernier j'ai discuter avec des Birmans à Kamala, un me disait qu'il y a bien plus de victimes que disent les médias et surtout m'a t'il dit la junte diminue le nombre de victimes autant qu'elles peuvent car cela n'est pas bon du tout pour leur image déjà très évincé . 🤪 La honte pour eux en somme .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
D'après ce Birman avec qui j'ai discuter, lui pense que ce drame ai plus de victimes que du tsunami tout pays confondu, donc près de 300 000, de toute façon tôt ou tard on le saura, en tout cas lui était très remonter vis à vis de la junte, il travaille en tant que ouvrier en bâtiment à Kamala et dès qu'il peut il rentrera au pays m'a t'il dit pour aider ses proches .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Je ne connais pas du tout le Myanmar mais je me pose une question en lisant vos posts : le gouvernement a donc déplacé la capitale au nord pres des montagnes et des sources de richesses (il me semble) et du commerce (licite ou non)... En laissant les paysans sur le sud... Vrai ou non ??? (c'est pour me faire une idée).
Je songeais que si c'est vrai alors la nouvelle capitale sera peut-être affamée elle aussi très vite... non ???
Je songeais que si c'est vrai alors la nouvelle capitale sera peut-être affamée elle aussi très vite... non ???
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Je ne connais pas du tout le Myanmar mais je me pose une question en lisant vos posts : le gouvernement a donc déplacé la capitale au nord pres des montagnes et des sources de richesses (il me semble) et du commerce (licite ou non)... En laissant les paysans sur le sud... Vrai ou non ??? (c'est pour me faire une idée).
Je songeais que si c'est vrai alors la nouvelle capitale sera peut-être affamée elle aussi très vite... non ???
Exact la capitale à bien était déplacé par le gouvernement ( la junte ) après avoir consulter un voyant . ( c'est bête mais c'est ainsi )
Pas de soucis pour eux ( la junte ) eux ils ne manqueront de rien mais le peuple oui .
Je songeais que si c'est vrai alors la nouvelle capitale sera peut-être affamée elle aussi très vite... non ???
Exact la capitale à bien était déplacé par le gouvernement ( la junte ) après avoir consulter un voyant . ( c'est bête mais c'est ainsi )
Pas de soucis pour eux ( la junte ) eux ils ne manqueront de rien mais le peuple oui .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bonsoir barbot!
Bon l'opposition fait son travail d'opposition...
et meme le schmilbick ( les systemes de reseaux propres à l'asie) de la dame en appelle à la chine !!!
Un peu de serieux et d'intelligence ne serait pas nuisible !...
Aujourd'hui ???...filer du fric à la junte ? ... Composer ... avec qui...?
La fin et les moyens ?....vaste question pour ceux qui ont la gueule pleine... en ce sens, je comprends Payao... (Ps: je ne te critique pas)
Bon l'opposition fait son travail d'opposition...
et meme le schmilbick ( les systemes de reseaux propres à l'asie) de la dame en appelle à la chine !!!
Un peu de serieux et d'intelligence ne serait pas nuisible !...
Aujourd'hui ???...filer du fric à la junte ? ... Composer ... avec qui...?
La fin et les moyens ?....vaste question pour ceux qui ont la gueule pleine... en ce sens, je comprends Payao... (Ps: je ne te critique pas)
Roger
Six jours après le passage du cyclone Nargis sur la Birmanie, la junte militaire au pouvoir a hier seulement commencé d’accepter le principe d’une aide internationale. Il y a pourtant urgence, le dernier bilan de victimes dépasse les 100.000 morts . Suite ICI . 🤪
Le Figaro – La junte prête à sacrifier le peuple birman
Le Figaro – La junte prête à sacrifier le peuple birman
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Aujourd'hui ???...filer du fric à la junte ? ... Composer ... avec qui...?
juste, et les Birmans se posent la memme question aussi 🤪
la junte a du fric, , , , , , , , ( dont Total en partie est un grand donateur 🤪🤪, .) puis ce qui est désespérant, c'est que la junte a 500 000 soldats officiellement et on ne sait pas combien non officiels 🤪, ( espions en tout genre, , ) pour faire une comparaison l'armée Birmane est la 9 ème au monde, et la France la 20 ème ................🙁
comment les déloger?? solution composer avec 🤪, mais comment ??
juste, et les Birmans se posent la memme question aussi 🤪
la junte a du fric, , , , , , , , ( dont Total en partie est un grand donateur 🤪🤪, .) puis ce qui est désespérant, c'est que la junte a 500 000 soldats officiellement et on ne sait pas combien non officiels 🤪, ( espions en tout genre, , ) pour faire une comparaison l'armée Birmane est la 9 ème au monde, et la France la 20 ème ................🙁
comment les déloger?? solution composer avec 🤪, mais comment ??
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Thuan, comparer les armées par le nombre de soldats, c est completement obsolete !
oui dans le cas des pays comme la France, mais pas dans le cas de la Birmanie, ou dans tout les rouages de la société il y a des militaires, c'est très efficace, , ( + le système d'espions et délateurs (, tout cartier a son bureau officiel de délation et en plus on est payer .)
les chiffres expliquent simplement, que dans un si petit pays il y a de si grand nombre de militaires ............. Une des raisons principale pour laquelle tout étranger qui peut faire un rapport ( presse ou ONG est très mal vu, ) et les ONG"S qui sont sur place, SI ils veulent rester il faut que elle suivent ce que le parti leur dit, , c'est a dire OK tu bosse mais tu ne dis rien, , ( ce qui est également le cas de la thailande, , )🤪
oui dans le cas des pays comme la France, mais pas dans le cas de la Birmanie, ou dans tout les rouages de la société il y a des militaires, c'est très efficace, , ( + le système d'espions et délateurs (, tout cartier a son bureau officiel de délation et en plus on est payer .)
les chiffres expliquent simplement, que dans un si petit pays il y a de si grand nombre de militaires ............. Une des raisons principale pour laquelle tout étranger qui peut faire un rapport ( presse ou ONG est très mal vu, ) et les ONG"S qui sont sur place, SI ils veulent rester il faut que elle suivent ce que le parti leur dit, , c'est a dire OK tu bosse mais tu ne dis rien, , ( ce qui est également le cas de la thailande, , )🤪
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Je suis désolée pour les victimes civiles chinoises qui souffrent du tremblement de terre d'aujourd'hui mais c'est quand même assez ironique de penser que c'est la "poussée du plateau tibétain" qui a provoqué le tremblement de terre. Si c'est pas symbolique, ça! Et puis, il seront peut-être un peu plus enclins à la compassion avec le peuple birman et la diligence des autorités chinoises à s'occuper de sauver leur ressortissants devrait d'autant plus jeter la honte à la face du gouvernement birman!
En Birmanie, une vidéo... sans commentaire, ICI
En Birmanie, une vidéo... sans commentaire, ICI
"Nous, on a le temps
Vous, vous avez l'heure"
dixit un chamelier dans le désert...
excusez-moi, mais votre post me consterne 😕 par votre "vision" des événements ... quel amalgame
"les vicitimes civiles chinoises qui souffrent du tremblement de terre" + "la poussée (?) "du plateau thibètain " = pour vous C'EST DU SYMBOLIQUE ?
votre réponse est tout simplement ... diabolique 😠😠 la mort me semble-t-il n'est pas du domaine de la "symbolique" 😕😕
votre réponse est tout simplement ... diabolique 😠😠 la mort me semble-t-il n'est pas du domaine de la "symbolique" 😕😕
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
bonjour Roger.
" MYANMAR • Une armée formée pour réprimer, pas pour aider Malgré une armée pléthorique, les autorités birmanes ne semblent pas capables d'apporter les secours nécessaires aux survivants. Les militaires sont formés pour contrôler la population, pas pour réagir aux catastophes. Les Birmans doivent se débrouiller par eux-mêmes, et la colère gronde.
Les soldats birmans déchargent les avions humanitaires à l'aéroport de Rangoon.
Images de la télévision japonaise NHK Le passage du cyclone Nargis et l'incapacité de la junte au pouvoir à faire face à la catastrophe pourraient réveiller la colère d'une population pauvre et opprimée. Certes, le généralissime Than Shwe a pris la tête d'un comité d'urgence chargé de superviser les secours. Les médias officiels ont montré des images montrant le général participant à des réunions d'évaluation de l'ampleur des destructions, allant à la rencontre de Birmans dans un temple bouddhiste ou constatant l'étendue des dégâts, au nord de Rangoun.
Ce comité d'urgence rassemble les forces armées, la police et les pompiers. Les images de soldats et de policiers dégageant les rues jonchées d'arbres et distribuant des vivres aux populations ont été abondamment diffusées. Le général Than Shwe, homme fort de la junte, et le reste du gouvernement ont pris soin d'éviter de se montrer en public et semblent s'être retranchés dans leur nouvelle capitale de Naypyidaw, épargnée par le cyclone.
Mais on ignore encore pourquoi la junte et les autres organes officiels ne se soucient pas plus d'alléger les souffrances de la population. Le Myanmar dispose de la deuxième plus grande armée du Sud-Est asiatique, et pourrait utiliser cette vaste main-d'œuvre pour venir en aide aux victimes du cyclone.
En septembre dernier, l'Etat avait montré sa capacité à mobiliser rapidement les forces de sécurité pour réprimer les manifestations de moines. Mais, jusqu'à présent, il s'est montré nettement moins déterminé et moins organisé face à cette catastrophe.
Cela s'expliquerait notamment par le manque d'expérience de la police, des pompiers et des militaires birmans, moins habitués à gérer ce genre de situation que leurs voisins chinois, thaïlandais ou même bangladais. Les forces de l'armée et de la police ne sont chargées que de missions de sécurité, tandis que l'organisation des secours en cas de catastrophe repose sur les habitants eux-mêmes.
Alors que le département de météorologie et d'hydrologie du Myanmar avait été informé une semaine à l'avance de l'approche du cyclone par le centre de planification préalable aux catastrophes (ADPC) de Thaïlande et les services météorologiques indiens, les autorités ont attendu le vendredi 2 mai pour alerter la population à la radio et à la télévision.
En outre, il semble que les forces armées, la police et les hôpitaux n'avaient pas non plus été prévenus d'une possible situation d'urgence. Le refus de la junte de laisser entrer les secours internationaux ne fait qu'exaspérer la colère des victimes du cyclone. Lundi 5 mai, le régime a lancé un appel à l'aide internationale mais il apparaît clair que seules les dons en eau, en nourriture, en médicaments en argent sont les bienvenus, et non la présence de bénévoles étrangers susceptibles de dévoiler aux médias l'incompétence du gouvernement. Brian McCartan Asia Times Online
" MYANMAR • Une armée formée pour réprimer, pas pour aider Malgré une armée pléthorique, les autorités birmanes ne semblent pas capables d'apporter les secours nécessaires aux survivants. Les militaires sont formés pour contrôler la population, pas pour réagir aux catastophes. Les Birmans doivent se débrouiller par eux-mêmes, et la colère gronde.
Les soldats birmans déchargent les avions humanitaires à l'aéroport de Rangoon.
Images de la télévision japonaise NHK Le passage du cyclone Nargis et l'incapacité de la junte au pouvoir à faire face à la catastrophe pourraient réveiller la colère d'une population pauvre et opprimée. Certes, le généralissime Than Shwe a pris la tête d'un comité d'urgence chargé de superviser les secours. Les médias officiels ont montré des images montrant le général participant à des réunions d'évaluation de l'ampleur des destructions, allant à la rencontre de Birmans dans un temple bouddhiste ou constatant l'étendue des dégâts, au nord de Rangoun.Ce comité d'urgence rassemble les forces armées, la police et les pompiers. Les images de soldats et de policiers dégageant les rues jonchées d'arbres et distribuant des vivres aux populations ont été abondamment diffusées. Le général Than Shwe, homme fort de la junte, et le reste du gouvernement ont pris soin d'éviter de se montrer en public et semblent s'être retranchés dans leur nouvelle capitale de Naypyidaw, épargnée par le cyclone.
Mais on ignore encore pourquoi la junte et les autres organes officiels ne se soucient pas plus d'alléger les souffrances de la population. Le Myanmar dispose de la deuxième plus grande armée du Sud-Est asiatique, et pourrait utiliser cette vaste main-d'œuvre pour venir en aide aux victimes du cyclone.
En septembre dernier, l'Etat avait montré sa capacité à mobiliser rapidement les forces de sécurité pour réprimer les manifestations de moines. Mais, jusqu'à présent, il s'est montré nettement moins déterminé et moins organisé face à cette catastrophe.
Cela s'expliquerait notamment par le manque d'expérience de la police, des pompiers et des militaires birmans, moins habitués à gérer ce genre de situation que leurs voisins chinois, thaïlandais ou même bangladais. Les forces de l'armée et de la police ne sont chargées que de missions de sécurité, tandis que l'organisation des secours en cas de catastrophe repose sur les habitants eux-mêmes.
Alors que le département de météorologie et d'hydrologie du Myanmar avait été informé une semaine à l'avance de l'approche du cyclone par le centre de planification préalable aux catastrophes (ADPC) de Thaïlande et les services météorologiques indiens, les autorités ont attendu le vendredi 2 mai pour alerter la population à la radio et à la télévision.
En outre, il semble que les forces armées, la police et les hôpitaux n'avaient pas non plus été prévenus d'une possible situation d'urgence. Le refus de la junte de laisser entrer les secours internationaux ne fait qu'exaspérer la colère des victimes du cyclone. Lundi 5 mai, le régime a lancé un appel à l'aide internationale mais il apparaît clair que seules les dons en eau, en nourriture, en médicaments en argent sont les bienvenus, et non la présence de bénévoles étrangers susceptibles de dévoiler aux médias l'incompétence du gouvernement. Brian McCartan Asia Times Online
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
Découper des propos à la machette pour en déformer le sens et les sortir de leur contexte; ça c'est diabolique!
J'ai commencé par dire que j'étais désolée pour les victimes civiles chinoises. De quoi suis-je accusée, là?
Quant à la "poussée du plateau tibétain" (et non pas thibètain, merci de respecter aussi l'orthographe!) ; rien de diabolique là-dedans; il s'agit d'un fait géologique. Pour comprendre de quoi il retourne, vous pouvez vous référez à cet article
Quant à l'ironie du sort que je vois dans cette situation, elle est la suivante: c'est comme si les tibétains, qui subissent l'oppression du gouvernement chinois ( je fais bien la distinction entre gouvernement et population civile) sans jamais pouvoir se défendre, voyaient la nature, leur terre, prendre leur défense.
L'ironie du sort n'étant pas un synonyme de se réjouir de la situation...
Quant à l'ironie du sort que je vois dans cette situation, elle est la suivante: c'est comme si les tibétains, qui subissent l'oppression du gouvernement chinois ( je fais bien la distinction entre gouvernement et population civile) sans jamais pouvoir se défendre, voyaient la nature, leur terre, prendre leur défense.
L'ironie du sort n'étant pas un synonyme de se réjouir de la situation...
"Nous, on a le temps
Vous, vous avez l'heure"
dixit un chamelier dans le désert...
Le seule problème que je vois avec cette "ironie", et je m'excuse d'avance de sortir du sujet car ce post traite à la base d'une immense catastrophe survenue en Birmanie, c'est que bon nombre de victimes sont d'origine tibétaine. D'ailleurs toute une partie de la province était bouclée par l'armée chinoise avant le tremblement de terre et, si les responsables chinois ont accepté toute l'aide que pouvaient apporter les pays étrangers, ils ont également refusé l'accès aux humanitaires étrangers prétextant que les conditions de sécurité n'étaient pas garanties.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Dans ce cas, effectivement, ma lecture d'une "ironie du sort" ne correspond plus à rien...j'ai donc scandalisé Eliade avec une ironie qui n'existe pas... et détourné l'attention du sujet initial, ce dont je m'excuse platement.
"Nous, on a le temps
Vous, vous avez l'heure"
dixit un chamelier dans le désert...
c'est quand même assez ironique de penser que c'est la "poussée du plateau tibétain" qui a provoqué le tremblement de terre. Si c'est pas symbolique, ça!
Salut,
Pour ma part j'avais beaucoup apprécié ta remarque. Et tu peux être sûre que je n'étais pas le seul.
A + 321
Salut,
Pour ma part j'avais beaucoup apprécié ta remarque. Et tu peux être sûre que je n'étais pas le seul.
A + 321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Oeil pour oeil, dent pour dent, voilà votre devise.
Je me demandais qui oserait, je n'ai pas attendu longtemps.
Je me demandais qui oserait, je n'ai pas attendu longtemps.
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Je me permets de relayer cette info pour ceux qui voudraient aider en Thaïlande:
NARGIS
EXPATS AND THAIS WANTING TO HELP DIRECTLY VICTIMS IN MYANMAR DISASTER
Bangkok, 12th May 2008
A group of Expatriates in Thailand are joining their hands and extending assistance to people in Myanmar after the Nargis cyclone that hit last week.
Olivier and Panida Gaiemet, Murielle Blanc, Malee Whitcraft and many more people in Bangkok are trying to bring assistance directly to Herve Flejo, a long time friend that is based in Myanmar since 15 years running a travel agency and has been using personal funds to go and assist families in crucial needs of everything since the cyclone hit Myanmar.
We have no doubt of his honesty and he has a team of 10 people that distribute almost daily food and clothing but he will be running out of funds very shortly due to the immense challenge ahead.
If you can donate in Bangkok / Thailand, what we urgently need are :
- Purification water tablets - HYDROCHLONOZONE 122 mg or equivalent Clothes Candles Plastic sheets Blankets Mosquito nets Water Cooking Oil Instant Noodles / Rice Medecines, Panadol, Betadyn and the likes Matches / Lighters
The people in Bangkok that are looking at assisting have knowledge of Myanmar and understand the difficulties ahead but have been in contact with key organizations to ensure that the aid will go directly to the people. This ad-hoc group in Bangkok on a daily basis will be updating and bring hopefully with more volunteer the set up of an association to assist at a larger scale when time permits.
A blog is already on line to assist Herve Flejo, it’s in French at the present and we are looking at creating a version in English as soon as we can. It’s a Charity Association that is raising funds in France to assist the homeless people in Myanmar
http://aidebirmanie.blogspot.com/
You can drop donations (8:00 am to 20:00pm, 7/7) at :
Olivier and Panida Gaiemet
City Plus ( house no C3 ) no 58/7
Sukhumvit 63, Ekamai Soi 10, Yeak 4
Prakanong - Wattana
Bangkok 10110 - Thailand no shipment, goods are expected at this address ONLY
You can contact us at :
Panida hp : (66) 81 804 58 28 / Olivier hp : (66) 8 1 916 31 54 email : olivier@rmasia.net Malee : (66) 81 854 15 96 email : mkwhit@loxinfo.co.th
Bangkok, 12th May 2008
A group of Expatriates in Thailand are joining their hands and extending assistance to people in Myanmar after the Nargis cyclone that hit last week.
Olivier and Panida Gaiemet, Murielle Blanc, Malee Whitcraft and many more people in Bangkok are trying to bring assistance directly to Herve Flejo, a long time friend that is based in Myanmar since 15 years running a travel agency and has been using personal funds to go and assist families in crucial needs of everything since the cyclone hit Myanmar.
We have no doubt of his honesty and he has a team of 10 people that distribute almost daily food and clothing but he will be running out of funds very shortly due to the immense challenge ahead.
If you can donate in Bangkok / Thailand, what we urgently need are :
- Purification water tablets - HYDROCHLONOZONE 122 mg or equivalent Clothes Candles Plastic sheets Blankets Mosquito nets Water Cooking Oil Instant Noodles / Rice Medecines, Panadol, Betadyn and the likes Matches / Lighters
The people in Bangkok that are looking at assisting have knowledge of Myanmar and understand the difficulties ahead but have been in contact with key organizations to ensure that the aid will go directly to the people. This ad-hoc group in Bangkok on a daily basis will be updating and bring hopefully with more volunteer the set up of an association to assist at a larger scale when time permits.
A blog is already on line to assist Herve Flejo, it’s in French at the present and we are looking at creating a version in English as soon as we can. It’s a Charity Association that is raising funds in France to assist the homeless people in Myanmar
http://aidebirmanie.blogspot.com/
You can drop donations (8:00 am to 20:00pm, 7/7) at :
Olivier and Panida Gaiemet
City Plus ( house no C3 ) no 58/7
Sukhumvit 63, Ekamai Soi 10, Yeak 4
Prakanong - Wattana
Bangkok 10110 - Thailand no shipment, goods are expected at this address ONLY
You can contact us at :
Panida hp : (66) 81 804 58 28 / Olivier hp : (66) 8 1 916 31 54 email : olivier@rmasia.net Malee : (66) 81 854 15 96 email : mkwhit@loxinfo.co.th
"Nous, on a le temps
Vous, vous avez l'heure"
dixit un chamelier dans le désert...
Senior CH, merci de lire les contributions dans leur intégralité... :
" L'ironie du sort n'étant pas un synonyme de se réjouir de la situation"...
" L'ironie du sort n'étant pas un synonyme de se réjouir de la situation"...
"Nous, on a le temps
Vous, vous avez l'heure"
dixit un chamelier dans le désert...
J'ai moi aussi beaucoup apprecier la remarque... Mais c'est vrai que cette remaraque demande une distanciation culturelle
forte et qu'elle n'est pas evidente au prime abord ...!
Roger
Pour savoir comment ça se passe sur le terrain, c'est ICI
"Nous, on a le temps
Vous, vous avez l'heure"
dixit un chamelier dans le désert...
l'erreur c'est le mot "symbolique" détourné de son sens réel ... c'est tout 😉😉😉 quand à l'énorme erreur orthographique, je m'incline !!!
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
juste une info !
URGENCE HUMANITAIRE ! Consultez le blog par le lien ci-dessous: http://aidebirmanie.blogspot.com/
Hervé FLEJO est le corrspondant du magazine Gavroche à Rangoon--
un sujet sur Hervé Fléjo est diffusé ce vendredi 30 mai dans l'émission Thalassa / France 3. (Une diffusion est aussi prévue ce samedi 31 mai sur TV5 Monde.)
Hervé FLEJO est le corrspondant du magazine Gavroche à Rangoon--
un sujet sur Hervé Fléjo est diffusé ce vendredi 30 mai dans l'émission Thalassa / France 3. (Une diffusion est aussi prévue ce samedi 31 mai sur TV5 Monde.)
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Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
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Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
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Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
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We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!







