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Prévoir quatre jours dans le Salar depuis Uyuni?
by Marion0712
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour,
est-il possible de prévoir un séjour de 4 jours dans le salar et non de seulement 3 jours comme font la majorité des touristes depuis uyuni?
j'ai vu que depuis tupiza les tours durent 4 jours mais j'arrive de la paz et aller à tupiza me semble trop long.
j'y serais vers la fin du mois d'aout ( on sera 4 personnes ), sera t til nécessaire de réserver a l avance ou sur place la veille c'est suffisant?
merci
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il est tout a fait possible de faire un tour de 4 jours depuis Uyuni... et en plus c'est même conseillé car on prend plus le temps de voir les choses, ce n'est pas un marathon de 4x4 comme dans ceux de 3 jours...
inutile non plus de reservé à l'avance, le jour même ou la veille, c'est toujours possible... et en plus on peut avoir des prix plus interessants...
ok merci!!!!
t'as fait ce tour de 4 jours?
Bonjour ,
j'ai vécu 5 ans à La Paz , et j'ai fait tout ce circuit aussi .
en 4 jours tu vas voir non seulement le Salar mais le sud Lipez, et ces 2 endroits sont les plus beaux de la Bolivie.Uniques, insolites ..ça vaut le coup de prendre le temps .Ce sera une expérience inoubliable.
d'autant qu'il est question qu'ils exploitent , et donc détruisent le Salar(pas les boliviens, comme toujours dans ces pays ..!) , alors si tu as l'occasion d'y passer du temps ..
Bon voyage !!
bon il faut rester prècis:
- premièrement la différence entre les 3 et 4 jours n'est pas le Sur Lipez: tous y vont... la différence est qu'ils prennent plus le temps et font quelques lieux supplèmentaires. un tour de 3 jours, c'est 4 heures de 4x4 le 1 jour, 8 heures le 2 et 11 heures le dernier.
- deuxièmement, l'exploitation du lithium du salar ne vas pas détruire le salar... pour l'instant c'est une usine pilote dans un coin isolé où personne ne va et ce sont bien les boliviens et en l'occurence la Comibol qui s'occupent de l'exploitation...
ainsi ce n'est pas parce qu'on a passé 5 ans à La Paz qu'on peut avancer n'importe quoi...
pour ma part je n'ai pas encore fait le tour, mais j'habite à Uyuni depuis 5 mois et ces informations je les tiens des touristes et guides rencontrés sur place.
merci de ces renseignements.
du coup est ce que ça vaut vraiment le coup de prévoir 4 jours au lieu de 3 ( d'un point de vue paysage et timing)?
quel est le prix actuellement pour ce périple de 4 jours?
et enfin est ce que tu confirmes qu'il n'est pas utile de réserver a l'avance, mais la veille ou le matin sur place sera suffisant?
merci pour tout ses renseignements.
et enfin juste pour finir, mon départ est prévue pour dans 10 jours, quelle est la météo actuellement en bolivie? est ce que le temps est découvert ou y a t il de la pluie? fait il vraiment froid?
merci beaucoup marion
merci beaucoup marion
Merci de ces précisions d'importance .Effectivement je schématise un peu trop.
J'espère aussi que ce sont bien les boliviens qui tireront les fruits de cette exploitation si elle a lieu, malheureusement (hormis depuis la présence d'Evo Morales qui tente de changer les choses), mes amis géologues sur place ont rarement vu les fruits des exploitations des ressouces de la Bolivie revenir aux boliviens depuis 20 ans que je suis en contact avec eux .. Tant mieux si ça change ! d'autre part , cette exploitation ne peut avoir lieu uniquement grâce à la Comibol , car les boliviens n'ont pas les connaissances techniques pour exploiter ce lithium, sinon ils l'auraient fait depuis des années . Ainsi comme vous le savez, d'autres entreprises d'orgine européennes et/ou américaines sont présentes sur le coup...
Quand au tour de 4 jours , certes cela fait "short" pour faire le Lipez et Salar ..je me suis rappelée après l'avoir écrit que je l'avais fait en 1 semaine et non en 4 jours .Merci de cette rectification d'importance 😉
J'invite la personne qui posait la question au départ a aller sur le site de mon bon ami Pierre , qui tient une agence à Lapaz (lipiko tour) .Elle y trouvera moultes précisions à ce sujet.
Je m'incline donc devant votre supériorité bien française.j'espère ne pas vous avoir froissé par mon manque de précision .Mais je sais que dorénavant vous serez là pour remédier aux possibles manquements de vos collègues forumistes "franco boliviens".
Je vous souhaite tout les bienfaits que peut nous apporter ce fabuleux pays en terme d'humilité, d'ouverture de coeur et d'esprit . Bien à vous .
J'espère aussi que ce sont bien les boliviens qui tireront les fruits de cette exploitation si elle a lieu, malheureusement (hormis depuis la présence d'Evo Morales qui tente de changer les choses), mes amis géologues sur place ont rarement vu les fruits des exploitations des ressouces de la Bolivie revenir aux boliviens depuis 20 ans que je suis en contact avec eux .. Tant mieux si ça change ! d'autre part , cette exploitation ne peut avoir lieu uniquement grâce à la Comibol , car les boliviens n'ont pas les connaissances techniques pour exploiter ce lithium, sinon ils l'auraient fait depuis des années . Ainsi comme vous le savez, d'autres entreprises d'orgine européennes et/ou américaines sont présentes sur le coup...
Quand au tour de 4 jours , certes cela fait "short" pour faire le Lipez et Salar ..je me suis rappelée après l'avoir écrit que je l'avais fait en 1 semaine et non en 4 jours .Merci de cette rectification d'importance 😉
J'invite la personne qui posait la question au départ a aller sur le site de mon bon ami Pierre , qui tient une agence à Lapaz (lipiko tour) .Elle y trouvera moultes précisions à ce sujet.
Je m'incline donc devant votre supériorité bien française.j'espère ne pas vous avoir froissé par mon manque de précision .Mais je sais que dorénavant vous serez là pour remédier aux possibles manquements de vos collègues forumistes "franco boliviens".
Je vous souhaite tout les bienfaits que peut nous apporter ce fabuleux pays en terme d'humilité, d'ouverture de coeur et d'esprit . Bien à vous .
Bonjour Marion,
Surtout, bien prévoir ton séjour depuis Uyuni et indiquer que tu veux partir 4 jours. A la limite, trouver d'autres personnes qui veulent en faire autant, car ils ont tous un circuit bien défini et rentrent vite pour mieux repartir. Ne pas passer par Colque Tour, on en a fait les frais... Chauffeur exécrable et nous avons passé 2 nuits au lieu de 3 prévus au départ, donc beaucoup de route. Mais bon, ça vaut largement le détour. Je te propose de visiter mon site suite à notre voyage en Argentine et au Salar d'Uyuni : http://www.suerte-argentina.fr
Bon voyage !🙂 Joëlle
Surtout, bien prévoir ton séjour depuis Uyuni et indiquer que tu veux partir 4 jours. A la limite, trouver d'autres personnes qui veulent en faire autant, car ils ont tous un circuit bien défini et rentrent vite pour mieux repartir. Ne pas passer par Colque Tour, on en a fait les frais... Chauffeur exécrable et nous avons passé 2 nuits au lieu de 3 prévus au départ, donc beaucoup de route. Mais bon, ça vaut largement le détour. Je te propose de visiter mon site suite à notre voyage en Argentine et au Salar d'Uyuni : http://www.suerte-argentina.fr
Bon voyage !🙂 Joëlle
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Bonjour Marion,
Vous seriez 4, c.a.d. déjà un groupe constitué, votre problème, c'est simplement d'être certain de pouvoir démarrer un tour de 4 jours. Je pense donc qu'une des solutions (la meilleure?) pour vous serait de réserver un tour privé. Celà ne vous coûtera pas beaucoup plus cher qu'un tour classique style Colque mais vous aurez la certitude de partir à date fixe, pour l'itinéraire que vous aurez défini, vous vous arrêterez où vous vouler sur simple demande, le guide, lui même amateur de photos, prendra son temps pour vous, ... Etant passé par là au début du mois de juillet, je ne peux que vous recommander Iver, un Aymara rigoureux parlant (bien) le français tamboaymara@gmail.com Au volant d'une Toyota Landcruiser en excellent état, il n'a eu de cesse de nous montrer le plus beau du Salar et du Sud Lipez. Je lui avais fait confiance quant à l'itinéraire à suivre et je n'ai pas été déçu. Lorsque je lis sur les forums que les jeeps se suivent sur un trajet unique, je me dis qu'on a pas fait le même voyage; si on a croisé 5 voiture/jour, c'est beaucoup (sauf le premier jour où tous les véhicules se retrouvent sur l'Isla Incahuasi).
Bonne préparation de voyage Roland
Vous seriez 4, c.a.d. déjà un groupe constitué, votre problème, c'est simplement d'être certain de pouvoir démarrer un tour de 4 jours. Je pense donc qu'une des solutions (la meilleure?) pour vous serait de réserver un tour privé. Celà ne vous coûtera pas beaucoup plus cher qu'un tour classique style Colque mais vous aurez la certitude de partir à date fixe, pour l'itinéraire que vous aurez défini, vous vous arrêterez où vous vouler sur simple demande, le guide, lui même amateur de photos, prendra son temps pour vous, ... Etant passé par là au début du mois de juillet, je ne peux que vous recommander Iver, un Aymara rigoureux parlant (bien) le français tamboaymara@gmail.com Au volant d'une Toyota Landcruiser en excellent état, il n'a eu de cesse de nous montrer le plus beau du Salar et du Sud Lipez. Je lui avais fait confiance quant à l'itinéraire à suivre et je n'ai pas été déçu. Lorsque je lis sur les forums que les jeeps se suivent sur un trajet unique, je me dis qu'on a pas fait le même voyage; si on a croisé 5 voiture/jour, c'est beaucoup (sauf le premier jour où tous les véhicules se retrouvent sur l'Isla Incahuasi).
Bonne préparation de voyage Roland
Bonjour,
Moi aussi, je vais atterrir à la Paz (en septembre) et j'ai lu que le départ du circuit Salar/Sud Lipez de Tupiza était encore plus beau donc je prévoyais quand même d'aller à Tupiza (en faisant une halte aux mines de Potosi; paraît que ça vaut le coup !). A force ça devient chaud niveau planning car énormément de trucs à voir/ à faire et Potosi juste après l'arrivée à la Paz, niveau acclimatation, ça risque d'être raide. Si quelqu'un a des avis là-dessus, je suis largement preneur...
Loïc
Moi aussi, je vais atterrir à la Paz (en septembre) et j'ai lu que le départ du circuit Salar/Sud Lipez de Tupiza était encore plus beau donc je prévoyais quand même d'aller à Tupiza (en faisant une halte aux mines de Potosi; paraît que ça vaut le coup !). A force ça devient chaud niveau planning car énormément de trucs à voir/ à faire et Potosi juste après l'arrivée à la Paz, niveau acclimatation, ça risque d'être raide. Si quelqu'un a des avis là-dessus, je suis largement preneur...
Loïc
Bonjour,
nous sommes présentement à Salta et nous nous demandons comment planifier notre trip Salar de Uyuni. Nous aimerions sauver du temps de déplacement et faire le Salar selon une de ces deux options: départ de Tupiza vers Uyuni OU départ d`Uyuni vers Tupiza, dans les deux cas pour un trek de 4 jours. Nous avons eu l`info que c`est possible de le faire à partir de Tupiza, mais eu aucune confirmation que c`était possible de le faire depuis Uyuni. Donc, est-ce possible depuis Uyuni? Aussi le cout (approximatif) serait apprécié.
Merci,
Isabel et Tommy
nous sommes présentement à Salta et nous nous demandons comment planifier notre trip Salar de Uyuni. Nous aimerions sauver du temps de déplacement et faire le Salar selon une de ces deux options: départ de Tupiza vers Uyuni OU départ d`Uyuni vers Tupiza, dans les deux cas pour un trek de 4 jours. Nous avons eu l`info que c`est possible de le faire à partir de Tupiza, mais eu aucune confirmation que c`était possible de le faire depuis Uyuni. Donc, est-ce possible depuis Uyuni? Aussi le cout (approximatif) serait apprécié.
Merci,
Isabel et Tommy
hello!!!marion, , ,
le salar de uyuni se visite avec le sud lipez en 3 jours, , ,
tu peux le visiter en 4 jours si tu a envie de faire l' assencin de l 'un des monts
qui se trouve au nord !!!et que tu pourras le faire tous les jours!!!
(memes'il n'y s pas de neige!!!)
mais si t'est pas alpiniste, , , ou andininiste comme il disent ici!!!!
je te le conseille pas, , fais tes trois jours de "desierto".....
tu auras comme tout le monde , , tes emotions, , , ,
tes pannes (du 4x4) de batteries, , , , manques d'eau pour les voitures, , , , ,
plus de frein dans les descentes, , , , , en plus de voyager avec des gens qui n'ont ni boussolles,
ni GPS, , (d'apres eux, le sel modifie les données????),
ni direction autres que suivrent les gens qui sont devant, , , ,
le 4 ieme jours n' est que l 'assencion du mont , (en fait, c'est le 2 ieme jour...), , je sais pas le nom, , , , , je m'en rapelle plus!!!
mais vis les 3 jours avec le meilleilleur pilote...et tu te souviendras de tes emotions!!!!
pense que tu auras toujours au moins 3 problemes par jours!!!!
mais saches qu'ils sont tous dans la meme merde et qu'ils s'entraident tous!!!!
soit tu n auras jamais aucun probleme, , , , , mais il faut pas avoir de timing, , , ,
si j amais il a plus , , , , tu verras le salar , , , le plus beau du monde, ,
il faut que tu est la chance de tomber sur un bon pilote!!!!
la bas tout est desert!!!est tout est fabuleux!!!!
le 4 ' iemee jour c'est une escalade a plus de 5000 m d 'altitute....
ce n 'est , , a mon avis, , que reconmandable au habitués.... ceci dit, , le salar, , , de Uyuni, , , c est une des plus belles choses au monde, , , , , vas y sans te poser de question, , , et achete ton bilet a Uyuni, , , et non pas a la paZ, , , ca te couteras moins cher, , , et de toute facon quelque soit l entreprise, , , ils sont obliger d'etre solidaire, , , , attends toi a avoir des probleme, , , (l 'aventure, , cest l' aventure!!!!!) mais sans aucun danger!!!!! amicalement, , , , eric
ce n 'est , , a mon avis, , que reconmandable au habitués.... ceci dit, , le salar, , , de Uyuni, , , c est une des plus belles choses au monde, , , , , vas y sans te poser de question, , , et achete ton bilet a Uyuni, , , et non pas a la paZ, , , ca te couteras moins cher, , , et de toute facon quelque soit l entreprise, , , ils sont obliger d'etre solidaire, , , , attends toi a avoir des probleme, , , (l 'aventure, , cest l' aventure!!!!!) mais sans aucun danger!!!!! amicalement, , , , eric
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Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks