A t'on besoin d'un permit pour camper ? Merci
Bons plans pour Canyonland? (États-Unis)
by Sokomano
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Je pars au USA en Juin-Juillet, et je cherche des bons plans pour Canyonland.
Je compte en fait aller à Island in the sky (1 journée complete, 2 nuits) et faire la visite en 4X4 et randonner à partir de la route vers les points de vues.
Merci de raconter vos impressions sur ce parc et votre parcours (Ou avez vous dormi ? mangé ?... quels coins visités?)
A t'on besoin d'un permit pour camper ? Merci
A t'on besoin d'un permit pour camper ? Merci
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bonsoir sokomano
Je suis comme toi je recherche pas mal d infos sur canyonland mais pas grand monde ne répond je sais pas pkoi ?
En tout cas je sais que si tu veux dormir sur le parc il te faut un permis et selon le guide du routard il te faut le réserver au minimum 15 jours avant
Voila la seul chose que je peux t apporter si de ton côté tu as des infos je suis preneur.
Bonne soiree
Bonne soiree
Bonsoir,
Difficile de répondre a tes questions !! Il n'y a pas de "bon Plan" a proprement parlé à CL !🤪
C'est immense et superbe parc naturel, très naturel, pas de restaus, ni d'hotels, pas même de possibilité d'achter une simple bouteille d'eau, il faut l'avoir prévue..
Tu y entres par un visitor center où tu t'aquittes d'un droit d'entrée, en échange tu as droit à un "bon plan" pour faire ta visite et prendre tes photos.
Il y a des campings dans le parc. Je ne suis pas adepte donc pas d'avis, mais je crois savoir qu'il faut toujours un "permit" :http://www.canyonlands.national-park.com/camping.htm#camp
C'est un des plus majestueux NP, j'ai ét époustoufflé par Grand View Point.
Bye
Rêver ma vie ou vivre mes rêves, mon choix est fait...
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Bonsoir
Ns avons campé en 2008 ds Canyonlands NP, ds la partie Needles, au camping "Flat Squaw" en camping-car; il suffit d'y être assez tôt, car c'est au premier arrivé;
ns avons randonné 2 fois depuis le camping: une fois 13, 8 kms: Spring canyon et Squaw canyon; le lendemain, 25 kms: Chester Park + Joint trail;
c'était fin mai, très chaud mais magnifique; il faut beaucoup d'eau, et de la crème solaire...
Noëlle
Merci tibou pour ta réponse
Oui je galère un peu comme toi pour ce parc. Les infos sont rares voire inexistante
J'ai cru comprendre également qu'il fallait réserver 2 semaines avant mais je suis pas vraiment sur.
J'étais tombé sur un formulaire où ils demandaient le nombre de nuits passées sur le site, nombre de personne et route prévue
comme si on savait quels chemins on allait faire...
Je sais pas non plus si le camping sauvage est autorisé... Ca m'a l'air bien compliqué avec un 4X4 sur le site, peut etre qu'on va dormir dans un hotel a Moab... C'est confus pour l'instant Je donnerai des news ici quand on aura décidé.
Je sais pas non plus si le camping sauvage est autorisé... Ca m'a l'air bien compliqué avec un 4X4 sur le site, peut etre qu'on va dormir dans un hotel a Moab... C'est confus pour l'instant Je donnerai des news ici quand on aura décidé.
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Merci Leslandes
J'ai vu que t'as fait la scenic Byway 128
C'est bien ? c'est où exactement, au nord de moab ?
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Quel permis ?
tibou> oui c'est bien ce formulaire
Mais ca me parait bizarre. Sur les bouquins, ils disent pas qu'il faut réserver pour rentrer dans le parc. Ce formulaire, c'est seulement pour passer une nuit dans le parc ? Si tu viens avec ta voiture, t'as le droit de rentrer sans la réservation ?
Je ne sais vraiment pas quoi cocher dans le formulaire (partie 2 - type of trip) En tant que statisticien, je peux te dire que ce questionnaire est de mauvaises qualités, on comprend rien. http://www.nps.gov/cany/planyourvisit/upload/ReservationForm.pdf
Moi j'y vais début juillet, et j'ai hâte également !!!
Mais ca me parait bizarre. Sur les bouquins, ils disent pas qu'il faut réserver pour rentrer dans le parc. Ce formulaire, c'est seulement pour passer une nuit dans le parc ? Si tu viens avec ta voiture, t'as le droit de rentrer sans la réservation ?
Je ne sais vraiment pas quoi cocher dans le formulaire (partie 2 - type of trip) En tant que statisticien, je peux te dire que ce questionnaire est de mauvaises qualités, on comprend rien. http://www.nps.gov/cany/planyourvisit/upload/ReservationForm.pdf
Moi j'y vais début juillet, et j'ai hâte également !!!
Mes randos et voyages : http://www.alidade.eu
Pour dormir ds un camping du parc, il n'y a pas besoin de permis spécial.
Pendant les randos, on a vu des tentes installées ds des emplacements de "backcountry", surement avec permis, vu que ces emplacements sont numérotés.
C'est tt ce que je sais ;
Noëlle
cela ne me parait pas une question bête.
un emplacement "backcountry" est en pleine nature mais autorisé, sans eau ni toilettes;
ns étions ds un camping du parc, avec eau, toilettes, barbecue.
Vs pouvez aussi consulter ce site qui m'a donné plein d'idées de randos:
http://www.ouestusa.fr/index.htm
Sur ce je vais dormir; suite demain si besoin.
Noëlle
Bonjour, durant un voyage d'un mois dans l'ouest américain en famille, nous avons séjourné 3 jours à Moab pour être au coeur d'une région riche en découvertes. Comme nous aimons les chemins de traverse nous nous sommes renseigné à l'office du tourisme de Moab qui nous a donné un plan succin des pistes pour atteindre certains points de vue. Nous avons donc rejoint un des plateaux par une piste magnifique qui part du fond de vallée et monte le long d'une falaise. Il faut avoir un 4x4, être bon conducteur et avoir le coeur bien accroché! la piste est étroite et pas sécurisée sur les bords!! je rechercherai les noms exacts de l'endroit pour vous donner plus de détails si ça vous intéresse.
Nous sommes repartis vers Moab par une autre piste, au hasard, et n'avons jamais rien eu à payer.
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Marielaure05
Le parcours et les détails de ton trajet en 4X4 m'intéressent bcp.
Merci
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Pour le 4X4 le top c'est de faire la partie The Maze (entrer par l'ouest à partir de Hanksville). Mais attention il vous faudra camper (impossible de revenir en une journée) et partir avec plusieurs véhicules (ou un outfitter du coin) parce que vous serez à une centaines de miles de la première habitation et que les pistes sont tout sauf easy.
Bonjour,
As tu fait personnellement une visite à The Maze (en dehors de Horseshoe Canyon) ? Ton expérience m'intéresserait car cela fait des années que je voudrait y realiser un court trip (j'ai encore essayé de le prévoir, sans succès, pour mon prochain trip en 2009) mais la grande difficulté des pistes, l'impossibilité de trouver un compagnon de route avec le véhicule adéquat sur place, le tarif très élevé des outfiters locaux, m'y ont toujours fait renoncer.
Philippe
As tu fait personnellement une visite à The Maze (en dehors de Horseshoe Canyon) ? Ton expérience m'intéresserait car cela fait des années que je voudrait y realiser un court trip (j'ai encore essayé de le prévoir, sans succès, pour mon prochain trip en 2009) mais la grande difficulté des pistes, l'impossibilité de trouver un compagnon de route avec le véhicule adéquat sur place, le tarif très élevé des outfiters locaux, m'y ont toujours fait renoncer.
Philippe
www.phschuler.com et www.ouestusa.fr, pour une vision de l'Ouest en dehors des sentiers battus.
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Alors je me suis replongée dans Google earth pour retrouver l'itinéraire:
depuis Moad prendre la 191 vers le nord, traverser le colorado et prendre Potash road sur la gauche à environ 1, 4miles.
Suivre Potash road (elle borde le colorado et on longe des parois souvent fréquentées par les grimpeurs), jusqu'à croiser la S Fork road. A partir de là on part vers Grand view point en passant sous Dead horse point. Arrivée sur Grand view point par le très impressionant Shafer trail.
après nous avons pris Grand view point rd sur la gauche jusqu'au bout et en revenant nous sommes allés voir "upheaval dome" par la upheaval road.
Aprés en revenant par Grand view point rd qui se transforme en Island in the sky rd, nous avons bifiurqué à droite sur la 313, au bout de la grande ligne droite prendre à gauche Long canyon rd qui passe par le pucker pass. ATTENTION bon 4x4 nécessaire et bon conducteur aussi!! voir les photos sur google earth! En suivant Long canyon rd vous retombez sur Potash rd.
Voila ça nous a beaucoup plu mais j'imagine que la moindre piste révèle beaucoup de belles surprises!
Aprés en revenant par Grand view point rd qui se transforme en Island in the sky rd, nous avons bifiurqué à droite sur la 313, au bout de la grande ligne droite prendre à gauche Long canyon rd qui passe par le pucker pass. ATTENTION bon 4x4 nécessaire et bon conducteur aussi!! voir les photos sur google earth! En suivant Long canyon rd vous retombez sur Potash rd.
Voila ça nous a beaucoup plu mais j'imagine que la moindre piste révèle beaucoup de belles surprises!
Marielaure05
Merci Marie Laure
On va faire ce genre de trajet sans le pucker pass qui m'a l'air compliqué
Je pense qu'on va d'abord faire le plateau island in the sky et descendre par shafer trail et potash road (la route que tu as emprunté dans la matinée mais en sens inverse)
As tu une idée du temps passé sur la route ?
Par exemple combien de temps faut-il pour aller de moab jusqu'à la fin de shafer trail par exemple ?
On aimerait quand même faire quelques micro randonnées (sur le plateau) durant cette journée
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Ca nous a duré une matinée, je pense que nous sommes partis vers 9/10h de Moab et nous avons pique-niqué sur Grand point view. Donc entre 2 et 3 heures avec beaucoup de stops pour profiter de l'endroit! Heureusement que j'ai d'ailleurs bien profité de toute la première partie car à la fin j'étais au fond du 4x4!! un peu de vertige!
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Marielaure05
Infos inexistantes faut tout de même pas exagérer : Rien que sur mon site web (Sedonax y collabore), il y a tout de même pas mal de randonnées décrites et cela dans les 3 partie du parc, The maze compris.
http://www.ouestusa.fr/utah-acceuil.htm
en règle générale dans les parcs nationaux, le camping sauvage est interdit: il faut réserver auprès des rangers pour obtenir un permis et aller dans des camping dits 'primitifs'
http://www.ouestusa.fr/utah-acceuil.htm
en règle générale dans les parcs nationaux, le camping sauvage est interdit: il faut réserver auprès des rangers pour obtenir un permis et aller dans des camping dits 'primitifs'
Envie de découvrir l'ouest autrement, de sortir des sentiers battus: c'est maintenant sur www.ouestusa.fr où vous attendent itinéraires, cartes topo, photos, moteur de recherche et de nombreux renseignements
Je ne parlais pas des randonnées mais plus du camping où comme tibou81 je galère pour trouver des infos (partie island in the sky)
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Je ne vois pas ce que vous cherchez de plus que ce qui est indiqué sur le site officiel du parc: si vous voulez faire du back packing donc passer au moins une nuit en camping primitif (exemple: le long de la white rim road ou à Minral ), il faut un permit et si possible réserver à l'avance. Si par contre, il s'agit juste de dormir à willow campground, c'est premier arrivé, premier servi donc pas de réservation ni de permit
Envie de découvrir l'ouest autrement, de sortir des sentiers battus: c'est maintenant sur www.ouestusa.fr où vous attendent itinéraires, cartes topo, photos, moteur de recherche et de nombreux renseignements
Justement sur le site officiel, c'est mal expliqué, ya un formulaire et on ne sait pas à quoi il sert.
Faut-il simplement le remplir et l'envoyer si on veut camper dans un de ses campings primitifs ?
Genre si on fait une balade 4*4 comme c'est expliqué sur ton site (shafer trail), on n'a rien besoin de réserver, on peut rentrer et obtenir le permis le jour même avec notre véhicule ?
En fait nous on arriverait en soirée depuis monument valley, donc pour le willow campground, je suppose c'est pas la peine d'espérer. On voudrait visiter la partie haute en altitude puis descendre par shafer trail et repartir. Les campings primitifs, ils sont tous en bas sur la white rim road (ils est où celui de Minral?), donc ça fait trop loin pour nous je suppose. Qu'est ce que tu en penses ? Merci
En fait nous on arriverait en soirée depuis monument valley, donc pour le willow campground, je suppose c'est pas la peine d'espérer. On voudrait visiter la partie haute en altitude puis descendre par shafer trail et repartir. Les campings primitifs, ils sont tous en bas sur la white rim road (ils est où celui de Minral?), donc ça fait trop loin pour nous je suppose. Qu'est ce que tu en penses ? Merci
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le paragraphe 2 du formulaire indique dans quelles circontances le permit est oligatoire:
ex: si vous voulez faire shafert trail et la potash road, pas besoin de permit
si vous voulez aller camper dans l'un des campings de la white rim road -> permit obligatoire (4WD camping)
Pour profiter du parc, il faut randonner et pas faire uniquement de la piste qui n'offre (sauf à faire la white rim sur tout le long) en général que peu de point remarquables. Lorsque je parle de Mineral bottom, je parles du camping de taylor canyon dans la partie Nord de Island in the sky. Si vous voulez camper vous pouvez le faire à dead horse point avec réservation possible à l'avance
Pour profiter du parc, il faut randonner et pas faire uniquement de la piste qui n'offre (sauf à faire la white rim sur tout le long) en général que peu de point remarquables. Lorsque je parle de Mineral bottom, je parles du camping de taylor canyon dans la partie Nord de Island in the sky. Si vous voulez camper vous pouvez le faire à dead horse point avec réservation possible à l'avance
Envie de découvrir l'ouest autrement, de sortir des sentiers battus: c'est maintenant sur www.ouestusa.fr où vous attendent itinéraires, cartes topo, photos, moteur de recherche et de nombreux renseignements
Bonjour,
As tu fait personnellement une visite à The Maze (en dehors de Horseshoe Canyon) ? Ton expérience m'intéresserait car cela fait des années que je voudrait y realiser un court trip (j'ai encore essayé de le prévoir, sans succès, pour mon prochain trip en 2009) mais la grande difficulté des pistes, l'impossibilité de trouver un compagnon de route avec le véhicule adéquat sur place, le tarif très élevé des outfiters locaux, m'y ont toujours fait renoncer.
Philippe
Bonjour,
Je suis dans le même cas que vous. J'avais essayé parce que mon voisin de l'époque l'avait fait avec un outfitter et cela m'avait donné envie. J'ai donc essayé de le faire moi même car comme vous je cela très cher les guides locaux. Jusqu'à Hans Flat pas de problème, c'est nickel. Ensuite j'ai du prendre 2 fois à droite sur les embranchements suivants pour arriver à une piste de plus en plus difficile (un miracle si je n'ai pas crevé), mais j'ai dû renoncer lorsque la piste ultra cassante s'est mise à descendre une longue pente, je me suis dis que jamais je ne pourrais remonter, et puis j'étais avec un seul véhicule (il n'y a personne dans ce coin). Donc retour à Hanksville...dommage ça avait l'air magnifique rien que la vue d'en haut.
As tu fait personnellement une visite à The Maze (en dehors de Horseshoe Canyon) ? Ton expérience m'intéresserait car cela fait des années que je voudrait y realiser un court trip (j'ai encore essayé de le prévoir, sans succès, pour mon prochain trip en 2009) mais la grande difficulté des pistes, l'impossibilité de trouver un compagnon de route avec le véhicule adéquat sur place, le tarif très élevé des outfiters locaux, m'y ont toujours fait renoncer.
Philippe
Bonjour,
Je suis dans le même cas que vous. J'avais essayé parce que mon voisin de l'époque l'avait fait avec un outfitter et cela m'avait donné envie. J'ai donc essayé de le faire moi même car comme vous je cela très cher les guides locaux. Jusqu'à Hans Flat pas de problème, c'est nickel. Ensuite j'ai du prendre 2 fois à droite sur les embranchements suivants pour arriver à une piste de plus en plus difficile (un miracle si je n'ai pas crevé), mais j'ai dû renoncer lorsque la piste ultra cassante s'est mise à descendre une longue pente, je me suis dis que jamais je ne pourrais remonter, et puis j'étais avec un seul véhicule (il n'y a personne dans ce coin). Donc retour à Hanksville...dommage ça avait l'air magnifique rien que la vue d'en haut.
Bonjour,
mais j'ai dû renoncer lorsque la piste ultra cassante s'est mise à descendre une longue pente,
Probablement le mythique Flint Trail, effectivement difficile même à la descente mais qui souvent ne se remonte pas car au retour vers la civilisation on peut prendre la piste qui va vers Hite.
Philippe
mais j'ai dû renoncer lorsque la piste ultra cassante s'est mise à descendre une longue pente,
Probablement le mythique Flint Trail, effectivement difficile même à la descente mais qui souvent ne se remonte pas car au retour vers la civilisation on peut prendre la piste qui va vers Hite.
Philippe
www.phschuler.com et www.ouestusa.fr, pour une vision de l'Ouest en dehors des sentiers battus.
Carnet de voyage Ouest USA 2009
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Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan


