Budget pour un mois en Asie du Sud-Est?
by Krakow78
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Quel budget pensez-vous qu'il faut prévoir pour un voyage d'un mois en asie du sud -est, transports internes compris pour aller d'un pays à l'autre : on pense faire 3 ou 4 pays, thaïlande, cambodge, laos, vietnam a priori...en fait on a déjà notre billet d'avion aller-retour, mais on n'a aucune idée des prix des transports une fois en asie...sachant qu'on sera en mode routards...merci beaucoup pour vos réponses!!
Un mois pour visiter, n'est-ce pas un peu court? Se focaliser sur un voir deux pays permettrait de mieux en appréhender les richesses et éviter d'avoir à passer son temps dans les transports.
C'est également plus pratique pour établir un budget et moins lourd dans le sac (moins de guides!)
Et oui, je n'ai pas répondu à la question!
Et oui, je n'ai pas répondu à la question!
Je pense au aussi que un mois pour tout ces pays c'est beaucoup !!
J'ai passé 3 semaines et demi au Vietnam l'été dernier. Pour les frais sur place, nous avons dépenser 600€.
Nous n'avons pas des goûts de luxe mais on s'est parfois fait plaisirs sur les restos.
«Le plus grans voyageur est celui qui a su faire au moins une fois le tour de lui-même»
Confucius
www.trip-vietnam.fr
www.trip-vietnam.fr
4 pays en 1 mois = 1 pays en 1 semaine , , ce que veut dire tu sera un expert en transports publics mais nul en contacts humains , , ce qui fait le charme de ses pays , , on ne peut pas globaliser un budget comme cela , , chaque pays a ses prix ses bons ou mauvais plans , , et puis le moi j'ai dépensé cela ne veut rien dire puisque on est pas tous les mêmes , ,
😛heureusement .................
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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C'est comme çi tu voudrais faire l'allemagne la France l'Espagne et le Portugal en 1 mois . 🤪
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
a la différence c'est que ce n'est pas le marché commun , , donc beaucoup plus compliquer , ,
pour faire un minimum de correct est 1 mois 1 pays , , ils sont la, ils seront la , il suffit de revenir , ,
+1 . 😉
pour faire un minimum de correct est 1 mois 1 pays , , ils sont la, ils seront la , il suffit de revenir , ,
+1 . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
mouai c pas long un mois ...
Mais tu peux faire jjuste les temples d ' angkor siem reap , battambang PP, (pas de sianoukville ) une semaine max prendre l avion juska luang prabang redescendre le mekong juska vientiane ou pakse et partir pour 2 semaines de thailande , gros max et vietnam pour prochain voyage .....
Grossomodo y a moyen de faire 1 semaine Cambodge et Laos et 2 semaines Thailande ( farniente oblige ) mais tu devras ptet prendre un ou deux coucou , c' est pas cher la bas à condition de s' y prendre légérement à l' avance .
ok, merci pr vos réponses...même si apparemment, c'est pas simple de répondre à ma question😉...du coup je pense qu'on va se limiter à trois pays...effectivement, ça fait beaucoup...mais j'ai déjà fait un voyage d'un mois en europe où j'ai visité quatre pays, et cela ne m'a pas empêché de faire de très belles rencontres, je ne me suis jamais sentie frustrée par rapport à un pays, même si évidemment, c'est pas des vacances super reposantes!!...
du coup je réitère quand même ma question, qui concerne le prix des transports à l'intérieur?? car on n'en a vraiment aucune idée, et on aimerait quand même bien savoir combien prévoir environ...
voilà, merci d'avance pour vos réponses!!
Pour te faire bénéficiez de notre expérience :
Au vietnam :
trajet en bus couchette Hanoi - Cao Bang : 12,5€ trajet en bus couchette Ninh Binh - Hue : 15€
Hôtel à Cao Bang (peu touristique) : 1 chambre lit double : 6,5€ Hôtel sur l'ile de Cat Ba (très touristique) : 1 chambre 2 lits double : 35€
Vol intérieur Da Nang - Hanoi : 80€ réservé 2 jours à l'avance (plus tu prends le billet tôt moins c'est cher évidemment)
Les restaurants bon marché de 1€ à 2€ ( tu as un faim après 2h et tu t'en lasse vite) Les restaurants bon et pas cher, pas toujours facile à trouver, entre 3€ et 6€
Après ce qui plombe le budget ça peut être les courses en taxi dans les grandes villes, les visites de monuments et musée, les boissons fraiches ( il fait très chaud et humide, il fait tout le temps soif et les vendeurs ambulants vous le rappelle), les coups de coeur, cadeaux, vêtements, artisanats locals, les activités touristiques, ballades en barques, spectacles, randonnées, guide touristique....etc ...
Rien ne parait cher mais tout mis bout à bout ça peut faire une somme assez ronde, ça dépend du train de vie de chacun mais on part pas à l'autre bout du monde pour se restreindre.... Dans chaque pays il y a des lieux à voir, des choses à faire... les immanquables et c'est là que les prix sont les plus élevés. Par exemple la baie d'Along au Vietnam.
Bon voyage 😉
Au vietnam :
trajet en bus couchette Hanoi - Cao Bang : 12,5€ trajet en bus couchette Ninh Binh - Hue : 15€
Hôtel à Cao Bang (peu touristique) : 1 chambre lit double : 6,5€ Hôtel sur l'ile de Cat Ba (très touristique) : 1 chambre 2 lits double : 35€
Vol intérieur Da Nang - Hanoi : 80€ réservé 2 jours à l'avance (plus tu prends le billet tôt moins c'est cher évidemment)
Les restaurants bon marché de 1€ à 2€ ( tu as un faim après 2h et tu t'en lasse vite) Les restaurants bon et pas cher, pas toujours facile à trouver, entre 3€ et 6€
Après ce qui plombe le budget ça peut être les courses en taxi dans les grandes villes, les visites de monuments et musée, les boissons fraiches ( il fait très chaud et humide, il fait tout le temps soif et les vendeurs ambulants vous le rappelle), les coups de coeur, cadeaux, vêtements, artisanats locals, les activités touristiques, ballades en barques, spectacles, randonnées, guide touristique....etc ...
Rien ne parait cher mais tout mis bout à bout ça peut faire une somme assez ronde, ça dépend du train de vie de chacun mais on part pas à l'autre bout du monde pour se restreindre.... Dans chaque pays il y a des lieux à voir, des choses à faire... les immanquables et c'est là que les prix sont les plus élevés. Par exemple la baie d'Along au Vietnam.
Bon voyage 😉
«Le plus grans voyageur est celui qui a su faire au moins une fois le tour de lui-même»
Confucius
www.trip-vietnam.fr
www.trip-vietnam.fr
Hotel
2_5 euros : ptite guest house des fois sympa des fois miteuse
5_10 euros : meme choz surtout en ville ( hanoi , prabang `pp
10_20 : on te troques ton fan, pour une clim si t es chanceux t auras ptet piscine ou bo jardin avec balcon
20 _ 30 :je dirais que c est la tranche la + difficile ds le sens ou tu trouves de tout
Le manger 2_4 euros tu te regaleras ds les marches de nuit comptes tt de mem les 1 euros quasi systematik de boisson par repas que ce soit un milshake local un soda et legrement plus pour un biere , un cocktail c 'est 2_3 euros ds un bar resto Un ptit resto va te couter 5_10 euros voir un peu plus si tu manges à l occidental .Le + cher que j ai paye pour une frite c 'est 3 euros en france c' est pas rare de payer 5_7 euros o resto ( paris) Le room service ds les hotels est loin d etre excessif . Les transports à part l' avion ou les prix dependent suivant ta reservation comme easyjet ou ryan air tu paieras une traversee d ' un pays en car du nord o sud pour 20_30 euros grosso modo mais en fait ce sera un peu + car tu vas faire des stops . En resume si on retires les folies et souvenirs ne descendait pas en dessous de 25_30 euros / jour en moyenne pour se nourrir loger excursion transport boisson en mode bon routard et vs reviendrez avec des sous , par contre c' est vrai que tt est pas cher donc la depense est + facile .Bcp a titre d exemple parte la valise vide avec 2_3 change max et achete tt sur place ( j l ai fait ) des tentations se feront au niveau fringue .Si votre budget est au dela de 50 euros / jour , vs aurez la chance de dormir ds des bo hotels voir villa privative avec piscine ( ca se prend generalement a la semaine et compare à un ibis y a pas photo ) Compagnie low cost assez pratique se renseigner sur le moteur de recherche du site mais un billet peut te couter 30_100 euros suivant si t as reserve à l avance ou non . Question bus c est tres accessible en Asie mais les prix ne sont pas tjrs les memes au km , mais tu paieras entre 5_10 euros pour 500 km environ maintenant bcp de trajet se font la nuit et cela te permet d' economiser un nuit d hotel maintenant prevoit couverture ou ptit pull car la clim ils ne savent pas les regler et bonjour la gorge le matin .... Question souvenir c ' est au choix mais jme souviens d' avoir payer pour des babioles a DOI ithanon quasiment que dalle alors que c' est meme babiole etait bcp + cher au marche de nuit a Chiang Mai , le marchandage la bas est de rigueur mais tjrs avec le sourire svp , ne pas hesitez à refuser un prix trop ht , il y en a qui exagerent pas mal mais finissent par accepter ...... Apres ce n' est ptet pas votre delire mais la loc de moto /jour 3_4 euros de quad 10_15 de 4X4 20_25 , de jet ski 20_30 de yacht prive a la journee avec 2_3 chambres 500_600 euros et staff ....
Le manger 2_4 euros tu te regaleras ds les marches de nuit comptes tt de mem les 1 euros quasi systematik de boisson par repas que ce soit un milshake local un soda et legrement plus pour un biere , un cocktail c 'est 2_3 euros ds un bar resto Un ptit resto va te couter 5_10 euros voir un peu plus si tu manges à l occidental .Le + cher que j ai paye pour une frite c 'est 3 euros en france c' est pas rare de payer 5_7 euros o resto ( paris) Le room service ds les hotels est loin d etre excessif . Les transports à part l' avion ou les prix dependent suivant ta reservation comme easyjet ou ryan air tu paieras une traversee d ' un pays en car du nord o sud pour 20_30 euros grosso modo mais en fait ce sera un peu + car tu vas faire des stops . En resume si on retires les folies et souvenirs ne descendait pas en dessous de 25_30 euros / jour en moyenne pour se nourrir loger excursion transport boisson en mode bon routard et vs reviendrez avec des sous , par contre c' est vrai que tt est pas cher donc la depense est + facile .Bcp a titre d exemple parte la valise vide avec 2_3 change max et achete tt sur place ( j l ai fait ) des tentations se feront au niveau fringue .Si votre budget est au dela de 50 euros / jour , vs aurez la chance de dormir ds des bo hotels voir villa privative avec piscine ( ca se prend generalement a la semaine et compare à un ibis y a pas photo ) Compagnie low cost assez pratique se renseigner sur le moteur de recherche du site mais un billet peut te couter 30_100 euros suivant si t as reserve à l avance ou non . Question bus c est tres accessible en Asie mais les prix ne sont pas tjrs les memes au km , mais tu paieras entre 5_10 euros pour 500 km environ maintenant bcp de trajet se font la nuit et cela te permet d' economiser un nuit d hotel maintenant prevoit couverture ou ptit pull car la clim ils ne savent pas les regler et bonjour la gorge le matin .... Question souvenir c ' est au choix mais jme souviens d' avoir payer pour des babioles a DOI ithanon quasiment que dalle alors que c' est meme babiole etait bcp + cher au marche de nuit a Chiang Mai , le marchandage la bas est de rigueur mais tjrs avec le sourire svp , ne pas hesitez à refuser un prix trop ht , il y en a qui exagerent pas mal mais finissent par accepter ...... Apres ce n' est ptet pas votre delire mais la loc de moto /jour 3_4 euros de quad 10_15 de 4X4 20_25 , de jet ski 20_30 de yacht prive a la journee avec 2_3 chambres 500_600 euros et staff ....
mais on n'a aucune idée des prix des transports une fois en asie...sachant qu'on sera en mode routards
comme dit au fil des messages, tu as encore du boulot de preparation pour construire ton voyage un bon resume de l essentiel pour preparer un voyage comme ca en un petit millier de pages, pour qqun qui ne sait pas encore ou il va, comment se deplacer, se loger, manger et profiter de la vie http://www.amazon.fr/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=lonely+planet+southeast+asia&tag=googhydr0a8-21&index=aps&hvadid=1153031049&ref=pd_sl_2xgel50puu_e
sinon pour avoir une idee de budget: entre 2 et 2000 euros par jour, mais ce n est qu une fourchette, on peut aussi en sortir
comme dit au fil des messages, tu as encore du boulot de preparation pour construire ton voyage un bon resume de l essentiel pour preparer un voyage comme ca en un petit millier de pages, pour qqun qui ne sait pas encore ou il va, comment se deplacer, se loger, manger et profiter de la vie http://www.amazon.fr/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=lonely+planet+southeast+asia&tag=googhydr0a8-21&index=aps&hvadid=1153031049&ref=pd_sl_2xgel50puu_e
sinon pour avoir une idee de budget: entre 2 et 2000 euros par jour, mais ce n est qu une fourchette, on peut aussi en sortir
Pr une première en Asie, un budget de 2500e pr 2personnes/1mois me semble convenable.
Comme les autres je dirait que 3 pays c'est trop en un mois...😉
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Il y a quand même une différence majeure entre un voyage en Europe et un voyage en ASE, c'est la culture. Alors oui, la France n'a rien à voir avec l'Autriche, l'Allemagne, le Royaume-Uni, la Pologne voir même la Belgique mais les cultures restent très proches.
De plus, faire un tour d'Europe reste plus accessible (transports et couts) qu'un équivalent à 13 heures de vol. Je reste sur ma position en disant que c'est dommage de "torcher" une région, pardon pour l'expression, au risque de vraiment passer au travers.
Je suis allé 2 semaines au Cambodge et c'était vraiment trop court parce que chaque ville, chaque région, chaque site a une histoire qui lui est propre et que pour appréhender un pays il faut visiter chacune de ses parties, quitte à y retourner plus tard.
D'un point de vue budget, cela varie selon les pays, le Cambodge est très accessible de ce point de vue (en moyenne 5-6$ pour un trajet en bus longue distance type Phnom Penh - Siem Reap). Pour l'hébergement, il faut compter en moyenne de 4 à 10$ selon l'endroit pour un hébergement petit budget quant à la restauration, là encore tout dépend de l'endroit ou vous mangez. Un petit stand dans la rue peut vous couter maximum 1500 riels et des restaurants plus "officiel" voient leur note augmenter de quelques milliers de riels. Le poste le plus cher selon moi reste les guides et la location de tuk tuk notamment sur le site d'Angkor, auquel il faut rajouter l'entrée aux temples (de 20$ pour une journée à 60$ pour la semaine)
D'un point de vue budget, cela varie selon les pays, le Cambodge est très accessible de ce point de vue (en moyenne 5-6$ pour un trajet en bus longue distance type Phnom Penh - Siem Reap). Pour l'hébergement, il faut compter en moyenne de 4 à 10$ selon l'endroit pour un hébergement petit budget quant à la restauration, là encore tout dépend de l'endroit ou vous mangez. Un petit stand dans la rue peut vous couter maximum 1500 riels et des restaurants plus "officiel" voient leur note augmenter de quelques milliers de riels. Le poste le plus cher selon moi reste les guides et la location de tuk tuk notamment sur le site d'Angkor, auquel il faut rajouter l'entrée aux temples (de 20$ pour une journée à 60$ pour la semaine)
+1
30 EUROS / JOUR /PERS. = 1800 + EXTRA VISAS , TISES , SOUVENIRS, PTITS PLAISIRS OU BACKCHICH LOL O CHOIX
Le ptit plaisir je laisse à chacun d' en décider la destinée cela peut etre massage massage plus ou tout simplement un costard sur mesure ou autres nuits ds tres bon hotel histoire de ....
sinon pour avoir une idee de budget: entre 2 et 2000 euros par jour, mais ce n est qu une fourchette, on peut aussi en sortir
LOL
Franchement j ' aurais du mal à sortir de cette fourchette meme si il m' est arrivé de me faire inviter par des amis ( logement + bouffe ) ...
2 euros c' est vite dépensé ne serait ce que pour l' essence ou l' eau que tu bois encore qu' à 7_8_9 thb la bouteille de 50 cl
Pour 2000 euros et +je doute que bcp de VFistes puissent ce permettre de telles dépenses journalières ( en moyenne )
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I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
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I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
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I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
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- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Thanks for your opinions/answers! Marc Lamarre
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)