Visa pour un court séjour en France d'un musicien burkinabè
by Mayodb1
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour à tous,
je cherche des tuyaux, des conseils aussi constructifs que possible sur la façon de faire venir un ami balafoniste burkinabè en France pour quelques semaines. Je sais que la conjoncture est difficile mais il doit y avoir, quelque part, une solution. rabats-joie et moralisateurs s'abstenir svp. Merci à tous les gens de bonne volonté,
mayo
tu n'as que 2 solutions sans te marier:il doit etre richesinon un super musicien qui serait invité par un concert/festival
😏
Bonjour,
Ce sera plus facile si au Burkina il a un contrat de travail déclaré. Sinon, ce sera sincèrement difficile.
Christophe Lepage
Ce sera plus facile si au Burkina il a un contrat de travail déclaré. Sinon, ce sera sincèrement difficile.
Christophe Lepage
Salut,
c'est faux, si tu as des revenus, il pourra venir!
Pour faire venir un burkinabe en France tu dois faire une demande d'attestation d'accueil auprès de ta mairie. Une fois l'attestation obtenue, il pourra sans probleme demander un visa tourisme aupres de l'ambassade de France du Burkina. le visa coute 60 euros et ton ami devra se faire faire un passeport avant même que tu fasses ta demande d'attestation ainsi qu'acheter les billets. Tu dois en fait te porter garant financier en fournissant tes 3 derniers bulletins de salaires (minimum 25€ par jour où il sera la en comptant que l'autre moitié de ton salaire sera pour toi donc 50 euros par jour à peu près) et en fournissant la preuve que tu as la place de l'accueillir chez toi selon le nombre de personnes qui y vivent(une chambre pour lui) avec le bail ou le titre de propriété et un autre justificatif de domicile.Selon ton salaire, le sejour pourra etre plus ou moins long. Il faut aussi acheter 1 timbre fiscal de 30 euros. Enfin tout ca on te le diras a la mairie. Ha j'oubliais : si ton ami n'est pas présent lors du vol retour tu auras de gros gros problemes alors verifie bien qu'il ne compte pas s'installer! Je récapitule: 1. Faire son passeport (a lui de s'en charger) 2. Prendre les billets (point afrique propose des billets moins cher pour les burkinabe, agence a ouaga donc a lui de s'en charger, compter 500 euros) 3.Faire la demande d'attestation d'hebergement (délivrée sous 3 semaines) 4.Lui envoyer l'attestation (envoies vers le burkina fiables) 5.Il dois faire le visa (il faut prendre une assurance voyage pour lui) 6. Il est en France et vous pouvez enfin en profiter! Si tu es motivé, vous y arriverez. Cela prend du temps alors il faut s'y prendre très en avance. J'y suis bien arrivée, avec un salaire de 1500 euros pour 3 semaines et un T3 (je vis en couple).
Bon courage pour la paprasse
Pour faire venir un burkinabe en France tu dois faire une demande d'attestation d'accueil auprès de ta mairie. Une fois l'attestation obtenue, il pourra sans probleme demander un visa tourisme aupres de l'ambassade de France du Burkina. le visa coute 60 euros et ton ami devra se faire faire un passeport avant même que tu fasses ta demande d'attestation ainsi qu'acheter les billets. Tu dois en fait te porter garant financier en fournissant tes 3 derniers bulletins de salaires (minimum 25€ par jour où il sera la en comptant que l'autre moitié de ton salaire sera pour toi donc 50 euros par jour à peu près) et en fournissant la preuve que tu as la place de l'accueillir chez toi selon le nombre de personnes qui y vivent(une chambre pour lui) avec le bail ou le titre de propriété et un autre justificatif de domicile.Selon ton salaire, le sejour pourra etre plus ou moins long. Il faut aussi acheter 1 timbre fiscal de 30 euros. Enfin tout ca on te le diras a la mairie. Ha j'oubliais : si ton ami n'est pas présent lors du vol retour tu auras de gros gros problemes alors verifie bien qu'il ne compte pas s'installer! Je récapitule: 1. Faire son passeport (a lui de s'en charger) 2. Prendre les billets (point afrique propose des billets moins cher pour les burkinabe, agence a ouaga donc a lui de s'en charger, compter 500 euros) 3.Faire la demande d'attestation d'hebergement (délivrée sous 3 semaines) 4.Lui envoyer l'attestation (envoies vers le burkina fiables) 5.Il dois faire le visa (il faut prendre une assurance voyage pour lui) 6. Il est en France et vous pouvez enfin en profiter! Si tu es motivé, vous y arriverez. Cela prend du temps alors il faut s'y prendre très en avance. J'y suis bien arrivée, avec un salaire de 1500 euros pour 3 semaines et un T3 (je vis en couple).
Bon courage pour la paprasse
Bonsoir,
"c'est faux, si tu as des revenus, il pourra venir!"
C'est beau l'optimisme.
Michel
"c'est faux, si tu as des revenus, il pourra venir!"
C'est beau l'optimisme.
Michel
"moralisateurs et rabat-joie s'abstenir"
Je pense que ma réponse était plus constructive que la tienne tatra.
Les revenus que l'on demande sont de l'ordre du SMIC alors il n'y a rien d'utopique dans mes propos, c'est simplement la réalité en expliquant la procédure ce que je crois tu n'as pas fait. un burkinabé peut venir en France et les conditions ne sont pas exhubérantes aux vues de la politique menée par notre cher Président. Bien sur il faut faire des économies et les consacrer à quelqu'un d'autre qu'à soi.... Alors pouet pouet camembert Fin de discussion
Je pense que ma réponse était plus constructive que la tienne tatra.
Les revenus que l'on demande sont de l'ordre du SMIC alors il n'y a rien d'utopique dans mes propos, c'est simplement la réalité en expliquant la procédure ce que je crois tu n'as pas fait. un burkinabé peut venir en France et les conditions ne sont pas exhubérantes aux vues de la politique menée par notre cher Président. Bien sur il faut faire des économies et les consacrer à quelqu'un d'autre qu'à soi.... Alors pouet pouet camembert Fin de discussion
Ecoute.....
Faire venir des citoyens africains, Maliens ou Burkinabe par exemple, c'est tout autre chose que d'avoir les revenus qui le permettent ; tomberais-tu du ciel, ou dois-je t'apprendre que les consulats français dans ces pays font tout, je dis bien tout, pour rendre difficile, compliqué, lent, et très souvent impossible la délivrance de visas, y compris à des hommes et femmes qui ont tous les documents nécessaires, et toutes les garanties et cautions imaginables en France. Des partenariats scolaires, des jumelages, des coopérations internationales ancrées dans la durée sont ainsi mises en difficultés, voire tuées ; alors un musicien isolé...... 😕
Michel
Faire venir des citoyens africains, Maliens ou Burkinabe par exemple, c'est tout autre chose que d'avoir les revenus qui le permettent ; tomberais-tu du ciel, ou dois-je t'apprendre que les consulats français dans ces pays font tout, je dis bien tout, pour rendre difficile, compliqué, lent, et très souvent impossible la délivrance de visas, y compris à des hommes et femmes qui ont tous les documents nécessaires, et toutes les garanties et cautions imaginables en France. Des partenariats scolaires, des jumelages, des coopérations internationales ancrées dans la durée sont ainsi mises en difficultés, voire tuées ; alors un musicien isolé...... 😕
Michel
Merci pour les réponses diverses et variées.
Je ne suis pas née de la dernière pluie. Je pense que ce n'est ni facile ni impossible. Mais le discours cynique et un peu suffisant qui consiste à dire "laisse tomber, c'est grillé, et t'es trop naïve d'y croire", ça me fatigue. Mais visiblement, il est difficile d'éviter les rabats-joie et les donneurs de leçons...
Merci à ceux qui ont des choses à proposer,
mayo
Je n'ai pas dit que c'était impossible ; par contre il ne faut pas croire que le fait de faire une lettre d'invitation en France va être déterminant, comme le mmebre avec qui j'échangeais tout à l'heure. Ce n'est aps en France que ça se décide, mais au consulat du pays concerné.
Je ne vois pas en quoi j'ai pu être cynique. Ni d'ailleurs le reste.
Michel
Michel
Prendre un malin plaisir à décourager les gens, c'est ce que j'appelle du cynisme. C'était une idée générale, et c'est assez répandu par les temps qui courent. Je ne parlais pas pour toi en particulier. La naïveté est une chose, l'espoir en est une autre. Et ce qui est sûr, c'est que si on ne se bat pas, on ne risque pas d'y arriver.
Mais ce n'est pas l'objet du débat.
Je cherche toujours des bonnes idées ou des propositions pour faire venir un balafoniste en France pour quelques semaines, via une association, pour un concert, une manifestation, à visée pédagogique ou culturelle. Quelqu'un a-t-il l'habitude d'inviter des artistes étrangers?
merci,
mayo
.....
" Prendre un malin plaisir à décourager les gens, c'est ce que j'appelle du cynisme."
Il se trouve que le cynisme, ce n'est pas ça... 🙂 Bon... Passons..... Mais je ne vois pas où vous voyez un malin plaisir ? Il n'y a rien de tel. Cette situation difficile, je la trouve révoltante.
"Quelqu'un a-t-il l'habitude d'inviter des artistes étrangers? "
C'est justement pour voir de près ce genre de chose et de projet que je ne suis pas optimiste.
Michel
" Prendre un malin plaisir à décourager les gens, c'est ce que j'appelle du cynisme."
Il se trouve que le cynisme, ce n'est pas ça... 🙂 Bon... Passons..... Mais je ne vois pas où vous voyez un malin plaisir ? Il n'y a rien de tel. Cette situation difficile, je la trouve révoltante.
"Quelqu'un a-t-il l'habitude d'inviter des artistes étrangers? "
C'est justement pour voir de près ce genre de chose et de projet que je ne suis pas optimiste.
Michel
merci pour le dictionnaire....et pour le pessimisme...
on en revient toujours au même...
bonne soirée,
mayo
La meilleure, et ptet la seule bonne réponse t'as été donné par nemo, je cite:
Tu n'as que 2 solutions sans te marier:il doit etre riche
-sinon un super musicien qui serait invité par un concert/festival
😏
CQFD, pourquoi en dire plus? Un contrat de travail sur un festival, nombreux en été, c'est la solution, tu démarches au mauvais endroit 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
bonsoir,
tu lui as gaché ses reves! il ne faut pas dire la vérité a une femme 😏
tu lui as gaché ses reves! il ne faut pas dire la vérité a une femme 😏
Bonjour mayodb1,
J'ai certes 21 ans mais quelques années d'études en droit public derrière moi et surtout une réelle expérience en ce qui concerne la demande de visa shengen pour un burkinabé puisque j'ai suivi toute cette procédure. Je ne promets rien pour ce musicien, puisque chaque cas est particulier mais il existe des droits et le consulat s'y soumet. Le refus est fréquent mais pas systématique.
L'attestation d'accueil subit un contrôle préfectoral (représentant de l'Etat) et permet d'appuyer réellement le dossier. Il ne s'agit pas du tout d'une simple lettre de la mairie puisqu'elle n'est délivrée que sur présentation de plusieurs pièces justificatives.
Je te conseille de te rendre sur le site internet du consulat de France au Burkina : www.ambafrance-bf.org dans "informations utiles" puis "visas/formalités d'entrée". Il y a là les conditions d'obtention d'un visas selon la situation.
Pour ce qui est des visas de travail, je ne peux pas te renseigner car je ne connais pas assez bien ce domaine, et je ne voudrais pas te donner de fausses infos. Il existe un visa court séjour "artiste". Le mieux est que tu compares situation de ton ami et pièces justificatives pour déterminer quel est le visa pour lequel il aura le plus de chances de l'obtenir. Ta situation est aussi à prendre en compte.
J'ai aussi une amie qui fait venir des musiciens africains pour des concerts à but humanitaire mais il s'agit de maliens et je ne sais pas si les accords internationaux France/Burkina et France/mali sont les mêmes. Je vais me renseigner et je te donnes des nouvelles dès que j'ai ces infos.
Voilà, en espérant t'aider, bon courage
Perrine
J'ai certes 21 ans mais quelques années d'études en droit public derrière moi et surtout une réelle expérience en ce qui concerne la demande de visa shengen pour un burkinabé puisque j'ai suivi toute cette procédure. Je ne promets rien pour ce musicien, puisque chaque cas est particulier mais il existe des droits et le consulat s'y soumet. Le refus est fréquent mais pas systématique.
L'attestation d'accueil subit un contrôle préfectoral (représentant de l'Etat) et permet d'appuyer réellement le dossier. Il ne s'agit pas du tout d'une simple lettre de la mairie puisqu'elle n'est délivrée que sur présentation de plusieurs pièces justificatives.
Je te conseille de te rendre sur le site internet du consulat de France au Burkina : www.ambafrance-bf.org dans "informations utiles" puis "visas/formalités d'entrée". Il y a là les conditions d'obtention d'un visas selon la situation.
Pour ce qui est des visas de travail, je ne peux pas te renseigner car je ne connais pas assez bien ce domaine, et je ne voudrais pas te donner de fausses infos. Il existe un visa court séjour "artiste". Le mieux est que tu compares situation de ton ami et pièces justificatives pour déterminer quel est le visa pour lequel il aura le plus de chances de l'obtenir. Ta situation est aussi à prendre en compte.
J'ai aussi une amie qui fait venir des musiciens africains pour des concerts à but humanitaire mais il s'agit de maliens et je ne sais pas si les accords internationaux France/Burkina et France/mali sont les mêmes. Je vais me renseigner et je te donnes des nouvelles dès que j'ai ces infos.
Voilà, en espérant t'aider, bon courage
Perrine
Tout à fait, nomade, tu as raison, les consulats sont souverains dans leurs décisions et rien ne les oblige à délivrer des visas, seulement à ne pas les attribuer. La base reste légale mais les refus ne sont pas motivés. Cependant, il y a des formalités à accomplir et c'est seulement à ces conditions qu'ils les délivrent, il faut donc en priorité constituer un dossier sérieux -même si ce n'est pas certain qu'ils acceptent, les chances augmentent-. Ce que je voulais dire, c'est que le refus n'est pas systématique.
Merci de cette précision pertinente.
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Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Seb
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
Hi there,
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!