Carte d'identité nécessaire pour les enfants détenant leur propre passeport? (France)
by Matei
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous
Nous aimerions savoir si pendant un voyage avec nos enfants, en dehors des passeports (chaque enfant a le sien), nous devons leur faire aussi les cartes nationales d'identité (pour l'instant, aucun ne l'a car nous n'avons pas trouvé cela neccessaire...)
Merci beaucoup
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Bonjour Daniel,
Tu sais que si les enfants ont leur passeport, tu devras souvent payer un visa pour eux... Nous, on avait fait le contraire. Tout le monde avait sa carte d'identité. Mais nous n'avions que 2 passeports et les enfants étaient sur nos 2 passeports.
Bises.
Annie
Tu sais que si les enfants ont leur passeport, tu devras souvent payer un visa pour eux... Nous, on avait fait le contraire. Tout le monde avait sa carte d'identité. Mais nous n'avions que 2 passeports et les enfants étaient sur nos 2 passeports.
Bises.
Annie
Trois Enfants Autour du Monde
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Merci Annie, mais je ne comprends toujours ps a quoi sert une carte d'identité a l'etranger? Pour les passeports ca a change un peu dernierement, les enfants ne sont plus acceptés sur les passeports des parents pour les etats unis, chacun doit avoir le sien, rien que pour les US ils en ont besoin, donc, si de toute facon nous avons les passeports, est-il necessaire de faire des cartes nationales d'identité ?
Bonjour a toute la famille
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A mon avis non, les enfants n'ont pas besoin de cartes d'identité s'ils ont leur passeport.
Mets peut-être les enfants sur vos passeports quand même pour les visas africains et asiatiques. Ca t'évitera de payer pour 5...
Et si tu ne montres pas leur passeport, alors les cartes d'identité seront peut-être intéressantes ?
A plus. Annie
A plus. Annie
Trois Enfants Autour du Monde
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A l'étranger, la carte d'identité a peu d'intérêt sauf en cas de perte de passeport, il devient alors beaucoup plus facile de faire établir par le consulat de France de n'importe quel pays un document de voyage provisoire pour rentrer en France.
Aussi étrange que cela puisse paraître, la CNI a une plus grande valeur administrative que le passeport au regard de la législation française.
si les enfants mineurs ont leur propre passeport, ne pas oublier cependant l'autorisation de sortie du territoire s'ils voyagent avec d'autres membres de leur famille ou d'autres personnes.
si les enfants mineurs ont leur propre passeport, ne pas oublier cependant l'autorisation de sortie du territoire s'ils voyagent avec d'autres membres de leur famille ou d'autres personnes.
Bonsoir Valérie,
On a refait nos passeports il y a 2 mois, et on a mis nos enfants dessus. Donc ça serait très récent. La mairie devrait te renseigner, tiens nous au courant...
Amicalement.
Annie
On a refait nos passeports il y a 2 mois, et on a mis nos enfants dessus. Donc ça serait très récent. La mairie devrait te renseigner, tiens nous au courant...
Amicalement.
Annie
Trois Enfants Autour du Monde
Notre site : http://www.periple.org
Bonjour,
j'ai la même info pour les nouveaux passeports bio que je suis en train de faire faire; l'employé de la mairie nous a dit qu'il remplace la CNI et qu'on ne peut plus inscrire les enfants dessus. Ceux que vous avez eu il y a 2 mois ne sont pas valides pour les USA et donc à lecture optique mais non pas biométriques. Valérie.
j'ai la même info pour les nouveaux passeports bio que je suis en train de faire faire; l'employé de la mairie nous a dit qu'il remplace la CNI et qu'on ne peut plus inscrire les enfants dessus. Ceux que vous avez eu il y a 2 mois ne sont pas valides pour les USA et donc à lecture optique mais non pas biométriques. Valérie.
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Bonjour Valérie,
tu as raison, on n'a pas de biométriques. On a bien fait de le fara avant ! Est-ce que maintenant, quand on fait un passeport, il est obligatoirement bio ? J'espère que les notres seront quand même valables pour les pays où nous allons. Je vais me renseigner de ce pas. Si on ne peut plus mettre les enfants, bonjour le coût des visas ....
Amicalement.
Annie
tu as raison, on n'a pas de biométriques. On a bien fait de le fara avant ! Est-ce que maintenant, quand on fait un passeport, il est obligatoirement bio ? J'espère que les notres seront quand même valables pour les pays où nous allons. Je vais me renseigner de ce pas. Si on ne peut plus mettre les enfants, bonjour le coût des visas ....
Amicalement.
Annie
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bonjour annie,
C'est dommage que la personne a la mairie ne vous ait pas prevenus...surtout que depuis +/- 1 mois ils delivrent les biometriques. je ne connais pas la realité des autres pays mais pour les etats unis et le mexique par exemple - pas biomatrique egal visa. par contre je ne savais pas qu'on ne peut plus faire figurer les enfants sur les passeports biometriques, et dire que je trouvais ton idée brillante pour faire baisser le cout des visas !!!
bon courage
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Bonjour Daniel,
Par où on va, il nous faut des visas, donc ce n'est pas grave. Et je suppose que nos passeports sont valables 5 ans et avec les enfants dessus.
A vérifier si on ne peut vraiment pas mettre les enfants sur les biométriques.
Quelqu'un a des infos archi-sures ?
Annie
Par où on va, il nous faut des visas, donc ce n'est pas grave. Et je suppose que nos passeports sont valables 5 ans et avec les enfants dessus.
A vérifier si on ne peut vraiment pas mettre les enfants sur les biométriques.
Quelqu'un a des infos archi-sures ?
Annie
Trois Enfants Autour du Monde
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Zut, je me réponds à moi-même !
Je viens d'appeler la préfecture pour en avoir le coeur net.
On a eu sans le savoir du flair de faire nos passeports il y a 2 mois. On a pu mettre les enfants dessus (pour avoir moins de visas à faire).
Maintenant, en tout cas vers début juin, le passeport électronique sera obligatoire et on ne pourra plus mettre les enfants dessus. Que ceux qui prévoient un tour du monde se dépê chent, ils auront peut-être le temps de faire un passeport classique pour les enfants dessus.
Désolé Daniel...
Amicalement.
Annie
Je viens d'appeler la préfecture pour en avoir le coeur net.
On a eu sans le savoir du flair de faire nos passeports il y a 2 mois. On a pu mettre les enfants dessus (pour avoir moins de visas à faire).
Maintenant, en tout cas vers début juin, le passeport électronique sera obligatoire et on ne pourra plus mettre les enfants dessus. Que ceux qui prévoient un tour du monde se dépê chent, ils auront peut-être le temps de faire un passeport classique pour les enfants dessus.
Désolé Daniel...
Amicalement.
Annie
Trois Enfants Autour du Monde
Notre site : http://www.periple.org
salut
en fait les passeports BIO / sont unquement valable pour les vegetariens😎
pour les passeports bio : ceux des enfants ne sont valable que 5 ans et ne coute que 30 euros
au lieu de 60 euros pour les adultes : qui eux restent valables : 10 ans
CQFD
DIDIER/PARIS-KABOUL-KHATMANDOU
Bonjour,
Les biométriques sont en cours de réalisation: certains départements les ont déjà tandis que d'autres ne les mettront en place que courant juillet. C'est ça l'égalité des chances!!! Comme tu comptes faire l'Asie, je pense que tu peux utiliser les anciens. Il n'y a que les USA qui les réclament pour le moment. Nous sommes aujourd'hui obligés de refaire les photos car il faut rentrer exactement dans le rond sinon la préfecture les refusent🤪 Heureusement qu'on a fait l'Iran avec les anciens pour les prix des visas! Amicalement. Valérie. PS: j'espère qu'au retour de nos voyages respectifs, on pourra se voir peut-être chez Cyril...
Les biométriques sont en cours de réalisation: certains départements les ont déjà tandis que d'autres ne les mettront en place que courant juillet. C'est ça l'égalité des chances!!! Comme tu comptes faire l'Asie, je pense que tu peux utiliser les anciens. Il n'y a que les USA qui les réclament pour le moment. Nous sommes aujourd'hui obligés de refaire les photos car il faut rentrer exactement dans le rond sinon la préfecture les refusent🤪 Heureusement qu'on a fait l'Iran avec les anciens pour les prix des visas! Amicalement. Valérie. PS: j'espère qu'au retour de nos voyages respectifs, on pourra se voir peut-être chez Cyril...
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Bonjour Valérie,
Tu imagines comme je suis contente d'avoir fait les passeports avant que les autres ne soient obligatoires. On a au moins une dizaine de visas à faire vers où on va !
Alors RV vers aout 2007, à votre retour. Nous devrions être revenus avant à moins que les filles apprécient le voyage au point de ne pas vouloir rentrer si vite...
Bises.
Annie
Tu imagines comme je suis contente d'avoir fait les passeports avant que les autres ne soient obligatoires. On a au moins une dizaine de visas à faire vers où on va !
Alors RV vers aout 2007, à votre retour. Nous devrions être revenus avant à moins que les filles apprécient le voyage au point de ne pas vouloir rentrer si vite...
Bises.
Annie
Trois Enfants Autour du Monde
Notre site : http://www.periple.org
Hello Matei,
A priori, les cartes d'identité ne servent à rien à l'étranger (mis à part auprès d'une ambassade de France en cas de perte du passeport, comme précisé plus haut). En tout cas, nos enfants n'en ont jamais eu (nous-mêmes n'en avons pas non plus) et personne ne nous les a jamais demandées. Par contre, au regard de la législation française, c'est vrai que seule la carte d'identité est une preuve de nationalité française. Sinon, nous venons aussi de faire refaire nos passeports (non sans mal : pas d'ambassade de France en Sierra Leone => envoi à Conakri, en Guinée, qui envoie à son tour à Nantes puisque les ambassades ne peuvent plus délivrer de passeports exceptés des modèles "d'urgence" valables six mois => 4 mois de délai !) et nos enfants sont toujours dessus. Mais ce ne sont pas des biométriques. Bises
Flo
A priori, les cartes d'identité ne servent à rien à l'étranger (mis à part auprès d'une ambassade de France en cas de perte du passeport, comme précisé plus haut). En tout cas, nos enfants n'en ont jamais eu (nous-mêmes n'en avons pas non plus) et personne ne nous les a jamais demandées. Par contre, au regard de la législation française, c'est vrai que seule la carte d'identité est une preuve de nationalité française. Sinon, nous venons aussi de faire refaire nos passeports (non sans mal : pas d'ambassade de France en Sierra Leone => envoi à Conakri, en Guinée, qui envoie à son tour à Nantes puisque les ambassades ne peuvent plus délivrer de passeports exceptés des modèles "d'urgence" valables six mois => 4 mois de délai !) et nos enfants sont toujours dessus. Mais ce ne sont pas des biométriques. Bises
Flo
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We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!






