Chez Lorenzo à Tananarive?
by Fredericlyon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour
je vais à tana prochainement.
quelqu'un peut-il (ou elle) me parler de chez lorenzo ?
merci par avance
Nous revenons de Madagascar et compte tenu de plusieurs réiunions sur Tana, nous avons logé 6 nuits dans cette ville .
Nous étions " chez Jeanne" et ne le regrettons pas car elle a de belles chambres individuelles avec sanitaires privés , face à la rizière ( voir photo depuis les chambres) , est à seulement 4 km de l'aéroport et offre des services intéressants : aller chercher les clients à l'aéroport, internet gratuit avec wifi dans les chambres et dehors , taxi , etc . Repas très correct pour moins de 4 euros le repas complet .
Par ailleurs Jeanne est extra et peut vous donner tous conseils sur guides, itinéraires, adresses ....
Une adresse à connaitre et à faire connaitre
tu dois certainement parler du Pizza-olo dans ce coin de paradis de la Toscane selon TripAdvisor il faut voir .!.
Lorsque vous posez un caméléon sur du tissu écossais, il vous fait un bras d'honneur.
bonjour
non je parle bien de "chez Lorenzo" à tana
merci quand même !!
Possible que c'est Lorenzo ( hôtelier, restaurateur et fabriquant de fours à pizza) à Androhibe
l'important n'est pas de convaincre, mais de donner à réfléchir
Inconnu au bataillon , première fois que j'entends parler de cet hébergement .
Vous avez l'adresse ?
Quoi ?
On ne connaît pas LORENZO, le "pape de la pizza", le "maître du four à pizza" !!!!!
Son restaurant/guesthouse est situé à ANDROHIBE, quartier résidentiel de ANTANANARIVO.
Un "bon" quartier - un de nos consultants s'y était cependant fait agressé dans sa chambre il y a quelques années -, quoique un peu loin du centre ville.
La table y est plus que correcte.
L'accueil de LORENZO est "à l'italienne". Ne pas s'y tromper cependant, le bonhomme est avant tout un commerçant "jusqu'au bout des doigts".
Quoi ?
On ne connaît pas LORENZO, le "pape de la pizza", le "maître du four à pizza" !!!!!
Son restaurant/guesthouse est situé à ANDROHIBE, quartier résidentiel de ANTANANARIVO.
Un "bon" quartier - un de nos consultants s'y était cependant fait agressé dans sa chambre il y a quelques années -, quoique un peu loin du centre ville.
La table y est plus que correcte.
L'accueil de LORENZO est "à l'italienne". Ne pas s'y tromper cependant, le bonhomme est avant tout un commerçant "jusqu'au bout des doigts".
Quand on a vendu plus de 150 fours à Pizza dans toute l'ile , disons très persuasif dans les affaires.
l'important n'est pas de convaincre, mais de donner à réfléchir
En réalité, ce doit être sûrement dix (10) fois moins.
C'est ce que je pensais😎 le Carlton_ Ku deta c'est sur, plus nombreux à nosy bé
l'important n'est pas de convaincre, mais de donner à réfléchir
bonjour
que voulez-vous dire par "jusqu'au bout des doigts" ?
quelque soit l'activité il faut bien être affairiste si on veux la faire marcher ...
ça n'est pas choquant je crois
bonjour
que voulez-vous dire par "jusqu'au bout des doigts" ?
quelque soit l'activité il faut bien être affairiste si on veux la faire marcher ...
ça n'est pas choquant je crois
Un restaurateur qui vous sert deux (2) verres de vin rouge "bouchonné", à qui vous vous le faites remarquer, et qui, grand seigneur, vous dit "y a pas de problème, on vous les remplace par du vin de votre choix", mais qui vous présente une addition sur laquelle figure quatre (4) verres de vin - dont les deux (2) "bouchonnés" - vous appelez ça comment ?
On n'a pas moufeté, on a payé et on n'y est jamais retourné.
Ce ne sont pas les restaurants qui manquent à ANTANANARIVO.
Un restaurateur qui vous sert deux (2) verres de vin rouge "bouchonné", à qui vous vous le faites remarquer, et qui, grand seigneur, vous dit "y a pas de problème, on vous les remplace par du vin de votre choix", mais qui vous présente une addition sur laquelle figure quatre (4) verres de vin - dont les deux (2) "bouchonnés" - vous appelez ça comment ?
On n'a pas moufeté, on a payé et on n'y est jamais retourné.
Ce ne sont pas les restaurants qui manquent à ANTANANARIVO.
oui dans ce cas là ce n'est pas être affairiste mais incorrect en effet !!!
Un bon commercant aurait fait cadeau du vin (les 2 verres bouchonnés et les verres remplaçants). Un très bon commerçant aurait même fais cadeau du digestif. Fidéliser la clientèle et favoriser le bon "bouche à oreille" vaut plus cher que 4 verres de vin.
Un bon commercant aurait fait cadeau du vin (les 2 verres bouchonnés et les verres remplaçants). Un très bon commerçant aurait même fais cadeau du digestif. Fidéliser la clientèle et favoriser le bon "bouche à oreille" vaut plus cher que 4 verres de vin.
On est bien d'accord.
Il est un comportement que j'ai souvent remarqué ici à MADAGASCAR, où bon nombre de bars et de restaurants sont tenus par des européens.
Il est excessivement rare, même en étant un habitué des lieux, que l'on vous offre "la tournée du patron" ou que l'on fasse "le geste commercial" qui, comme vous le dites, contribue à "fidéliser la clientèle".
Je me souviens d'un français qui fait de la "bonne" pizza à emporter. Il avait mis en place une carte de fidélité, du style "une (1) pizza gratuite pour dix (10) achetées".
Il a arrêté au bout de quelques mois expliquant que ce système "lui coûtait trop cher".
On est bien d'accord.
Il est un comportement que j'ai souvent remarqué ici à MADAGASCAR, où bon nombre de bars et de restaurants sont tenus par des européens.
Il est excessivement rare, même en étant un habitué des lieux, que l'on vous offre "la tournée du patron" ou que l'on fasse "le geste commercial" qui, comme vous le dites, contribue à "fidéliser la clientèle".
Je me souviens d'un français qui fait de la "bonne" pizza à emporter. Il avait mis en place une carte de fidélité, du style "une (1) pizza gratuite pour dix (10) achetées".
Il a arrêté au bout de quelques mois expliquant que ce système "lui coûtait trop cher".
cette attitude est caractéristique des commerces qui ne considèrent pas avoir une clientèle récurrente.
on trouve ces attitudes dans les stations balnéaires ou de ski.
c'est étonnant à MADAGASCAR ou pourtant la clientèle n'est pas extensible et a de forte chance de se côtoyer et donc d'échanger sur les bons ou mauvais comportements.
comment l'expliquez-vous ?
cette attitude est caractéristique des commerces qui ne considèrent pas avoir une clientèle récurrente.
on trouve ces attitudes dans les stations balnéaires ou de ski.
c'est étonnant à MADAGASCAR ou pourtant la clientèle n'est pas extensible et a de forte chance de se côtoyer et donc d'échanger sur les bons ou mauvais comportements.
comment l'expliquez-vous ?
Je l'explique assez difficilement concernant Lorenzo qui est un gars établi à MADAGASCAR depuis une vingtaine d'années.
Peut être pense-t-il que sa "notoriété" peut le dispenser de ce genre de "gestes commerciaux".
Les autres vous expliqueront sans doute "qu'ils ne peuvent pas se permettre de le faire".
Il est vrai qu'il y a pléthore de restaurants à ANTANANARIVO et que peu "s'en sortent vraiment".
La concurrence est "féroce" et, ainsi que vous le dites, la clientèle reste "non extensible", et particulièrement "volatile".
Je pense également qu'il y a, à la base, une manque de professionnalisme, la majorité des étrangers qui se lance dans la restauration à MADAGASCAR n'ayant aucune expérience préalable dans ce domaine.
Pourtant, le niveau de marge de la restauration à MADAGASCAR reste sans commune mesure avec celui observé en FRANCE - marges bien plus élevées -.
Je l'explique assez difficilement concernant Lorenzo qui est un gars établi à MADAGASCAR depuis une vingtaine d'années.
Peut être pense-t-il que sa "notoriété" peut le dispenser de ce genre de "gestes commerciaux".
Les autres vous expliqueront sans doute "qu'ils ne peuvent pas se permettre de le faire".
Il est vrai qu'il y a pléthore de restaurants à ANTANANARIVO et que peu "s'en sortent vraiment".
La concurrence est "féroce" et, ainsi que vous le dites, la clientèle reste "non extensible", et particulièrement "volatile".
Je pense également qu'il y a, à la base, une manque de professionnalisme, la majorité des étrangers qui se lance dans la restauration à MADAGASCAR n'ayant aucune expérience préalable dans ce domaine.
Pourtant, le niveau de marge de la restauration à MADAGASCAR reste sans commune mesure avec celui observé en FRANCE - marges bien plus élevées -.
il est exact qu'un pays quel qu'il soit pour attirer des étrangers ayant une capacité d'investissement sérieuse doit sécuriser les fonds. par exemple le Nicaragua ou le Brésil l'ont fait ce qui leur a permis de voir arriver de vrais projets avec de vrais capitaux et des migrants motivés pour bosser. sans cela c'est l'aventure donc pas de professionnalisme puisque la vision est à court terme. décidément on peux retourner le problème dans tous les sens il faut déjà passer par une solution politique avec un leader qui pose les bases du MADAGASCAR moderne et ambitieux. l'île et ses habitants en ont largement les possibilités !!
il est exact qu'un pays quel qu'il soit pour attirer des étrangers ayant une capacité d'investissement sérieuse doit sécuriser les fonds. par exemple le Nicaragua ou le Brésil l'ont fait ce qui leur a permis de voir arriver de vrais projets avec de vrais capitaux et des migrants motivés pour bosser. sans cela c'est l'aventure donc pas de professionnalisme puisque la vision est à court terme. décidément on peux retourner le problème dans tous les sens il faut déjà passer par une solution politique avec un leader qui pose les bases du MADAGASCAR moderne et ambitieux. l'île et ses habitants en ont largement les possibilités !!
Le principal souci, à MADAGASCAR, c'est que les étrangers avec une capacité d'investissement sérieuse "ne se bousculent pas au portillon".
La très grande majorité a plutôt le profil "aventurier", cherchant une hypothétique rentabilité à court terme.
Le principal souci, à MADAGASCAR, c'est que les étrangers avec une capacité d'investissement sérieuse "ne se bousculent pas au portillon".
La très grande majorité a plutôt le profil "aventurier", cherchant une hypothétique rentabilité à court terme.
Ça va de soi, lorsque qu'on a le profil Aventurier la méfiance envers tous est devenu une obsession ... le comble, un supplément est toutefois appliqué aux Vazaha.
le profil "aventurier", cherchant une hypothétique rentabilité à court terme
le profil "aventurier", cherchant une hypothétique rentabilité à court terme
l'important n'est pas de convaincre, mais de donner à réfléchir
Pourtant, le niveau de marge de la restauration à MADAGASCAR reste sans commune mesure avec celui observé en FRANCE - marges bien plus élevées -.
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
Pourtant, le niveau de marge de la restauration à MADAGASCAR reste sans commune mesure avec celui observé en FRANCE - marges bien plus élevées -.
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà eu des employés malgaches ?
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà eu des employés malgaches ?
Pourtant, le niveau de marge de la restauration à MADAGASCAR reste sans commune mesure avec celui observé en FRANCE - marges bien plus élevées -.
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà eu des employés malgaches ?
Bonjour le cynisme! Parce que quand t'es payé 30 euros par mois t'attends que ton employé prenne son taf à coeur? Non mais quelle honte de tels propos. Rémunère le dignement et il mettra sans doute plus de coeur à l'ouvrage. Il vous donne ce que vous méritez, 30 euros de travail!
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà eu des employés malgaches ?
Bonjour le cynisme! Parce que quand t'es payé 30 euros par mois t'attends que ton employé prenne son taf à coeur? Non mais quelle honte de tels propos. Rémunère le dignement et il mettra sans doute plus de coeur à l'ouvrage. Il vous donne ce que vous méritez, 30 euros de travail!
Pourtant, le niveau de marge de la restauration à MADAGASCAR reste sans commune mesure avec celui observé en FRANCE - marges bien plus élevées -.
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà eu des employés malgaches ?
Bonjour le cynisme! Parce que quand t'es payé 30 euros par mois t'attends que ton employé prenne son taf à coeur? Non mais quelle honte de tels propos. Rémunère le dignement et il mettra sans doute plus de coeur à l'ouvrage. Il vous donne ce que vous méritez, 30 euros de travail!
Hou la inutile de s'emballer comme ça 😉 Si vous aviez eu des employés malgaches, vous sauriez qu'en province, ils s'attachent plus à savoir s'ils sont nourris, qu'au montant de leur salaire. C'est ce qui prime pour eux, la nourriture ! Je ne vois aucun cynisme la dedans, de plus il est bon de laisser les salaires dans le contexte local et donc de ne pas les convertir en euros 🙂
C'est clair qu'en payant ses employés 30 euros par mois les marges sont élevées! Les Chinois experts dans l'art de l'esclavagisme sans scrupules savent y faire.
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà eu des employés malgaches ?
Bonjour le cynisme! Parce que quand t'es payé 30 euros par mois t'attends que ton employé prenne son taf à coeur? Non mais quelle honte de tels propos. Rémunère le dignement et il mettra sans doute plus de coeur à l'ouvrage. Il vous donne ce que vous méritez, 30 euros de travail!
Hou la inutile de s'emballer comme ça 😉 Si vous aviez eu des employés malgaches, vous sauriez qu'en province, ils s'attachent plus à savoir s'ils sont nourris, qu'au montant de leur salaire. C'est ce qui prime pour eux, la nourriture ! Je ne vois aucun cynisme la dedans, de plus il est bon de laisser les salaires dans le contexte local et donc de ne pas les convertir en euros 🙂
de plus il est bon de laisser les salaires dans le contexte local et donc de ne pas les convertir en euros 🙂
Désolé mais dans le contexte local, 30 même 50 euros restent proprement ridicule! Il est impossible de vivre (même survivre) en ville avec une telle somme. C'est un peu trop facile de dire que le salaire est adapté au contexte pour justifier l'exploitation d'un travailleur.
Désolé mais dans le contexte local, 30 même 50 euros restent proprement ridicule! Il est impossible de vivre (même survivre) en ville avec une telle somme. C'est un peu trop facile de dire que le salaire est adapté au contexte pour justifier l'exploitation d'un travailleur.
Officiellement depuis le 1 mars 2012 , le salaire minimum d'embauche est fixé à 100 011 ariary pour la catégorie la plus basse. Soit un peu moins de 40 euros. Pour une personne seule (célibataire😕) il faudra un minimum vital de 120 euros. Mais là il y a un hic car on surclassera un pays comme la Bulgarie. En résumé ce n'est pas pour demain
( Il ne faut pas s’étonner que quelques guides mal intentionnés déroute le gasoil et de toute façon le patron est au parfum de ces magouilles, il s'en fout royalement.)
l'important n'est pas de convaincre, mais de donner à réfléchir
Officiellement depuis le 1 mars 2012 , le salaire minimum d'embauche est fixé à 100 011 ariary pour la catégorie la plus basse. Soit un peu moins de 40 euros. Pour une personne seule (célibataire😕) il faudra un minimum vital de 120 euros. Mais là il y a un hic car on surclassera un pays comme la Bulgarie. En résumé ce n'est pas pour demain
( Il ne faut pas s’étonner que quelques guides mal intentionnés déroute le gasoil et de toute façon le patron est au parfum de ces magouilles, il s'en fout royalement.)
Oui il ya la loi mais les patrons abusent en profitant du désordre généralisé. Le patron de mon amie lui refuse désormais ses congés, et quand elle en prend il lui sucre ses jours travaillés! Et elle ferme sa gueule car elle a peur de perdre son boulot (140 000 ar par mois!!!!). Patron chinois pour info!
Oui il ya la loi mais les patrons abusent en profitant du désordre généralisé. Le patron de mon amie lui refuse désormais ses congés, et quand elle en prend il lui sucre ses jours travaillés! Et elle ferme sa gueule car elle a peur de perdre son boulot (140 000 ar par mois!!!!). Patron chinois pour info!
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This big price jump for All Saints' compared to summer is a mystery to me... Did I miss something?
If you’ve got any firsthand experience traveling to Mauritius in July or early August, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Every year, we love escaping the autumn season—I really can’t stand it—by heading somewhere sunny during the All Saints' holiday.
This year, we were thinking of Mauritius... We’d found a place to stay, but after digging deeper, I realized it’s 40% cheaper in July. And the flights with Emirates aren’t more expensive in the summer, even though it’s peak season for them, compared to October.
Yet, after checking a bunch of sites, I don’t get the impression the weather is bad there in July—maybe just a *tiny* bit less hot than in October, but nothing major... So we’re tempted to go this summer after all.
This big price jump for All Saints' compared to summer is a mystery to me... Did I miss something?
If you’ve got any firsthand experience traveling to Mauritius in July or early August, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Hi
Are there any boat connections between Mananara and Sambava in September 2026?
Thanks for your replies
Are there any boat connections between Mananara and Sambava in September 2026?
Thanks for your replies
Hi! Recently, the domestic-flight terminal at Ivato has been moved to the old "international" airport, complete with its own scanner. On October 13th, I checked my luggage (which I had inspected before leaving my hotel in Tana) for a flight to Sambava. It wasn’t until I arrived at my accommodation in Antalaha and opened it that I discovered it had been searched (normal before boarding a plane), but to my surprise, the case containing my GPS fishfinder had been opened—likely mistaken for a laptop due to the scanner’s open access to all kinds of theft—and three SD cards were stolen. Luckily, two of the SD cards had their micro SDs inserted into the device, so I still had the Navionics micro card (300 €) essential for fishing. Of course, I’m not asking for compensation, just urging caution with checked luggage on "domestic" flights. (This is a copy-paste of my post on *Le Routard*.)
Hello,
I’m continuing the Antalaha–Maroantsetra discussion but for some info in the other direction, specifically about hiking from Maroantsetra to Antalaha.
In mid-December, I plan to take it easy from Tamatave to Antalaha. I’m thinking of making a few stops, like Nosy Atafana—has anyone snorkeled there? Is it nice? Can you find bush taxis on the Soniera–Ivongo / Maroantsetra stretch?
After that, I’m considering walking from Maroantsetra to Antalaha and figuring things out as I go, since the path seems well-used, so I’m not planning on a guide. Good idea or totally foolish? Should I bring a tent and some camping gear, or, as I’ve read multiple times, are there several villages with lodging and food options along the way? Any spots worth stopping at or nothing special to see?
In Antalaha, I saw the recommendation for Villa Malaza in the previous discussion, so I’m keeping that in mind. If there’s space, I’ll plan to stay there. In Antalaha itself, are there any places to visit, things to see, or activities you’d recommend?
Thanks in advance to everyone for any tips—they’ll be really helpful!
In mid-December, I plan to take it easy from Tamatave to Antalaha. I’m thinking of making a few stops, like Nosy Atafana—has anyone snorkeled there? Is it nice? Can you find bush taxis on the Soniera–Ivongo / Maroantsetra stretch?
After that, I’m considering walking from Maroantsetra to Antalaha and figuring things out as I go, since the path seems well-used, so I’m not planning on a guide. Good idea or totally foolish? Should I bring a tent and some camping gear, or, as I’ve read multiple times, are there several villages with lodging and food options along the way? Any spots worth stopping at or nothing special to see?
In Antalaha, I saw the recommendation for Villa Malaza in the previous discussion, so I’m keeping that in mind. If there’s space, I’ll plan to stay there. In Antalaha itself, are there any places to visit, things to see, or activities you’d recommend?
Thanks in advance to everyone for any tips—they’ll be really helpful!
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a private transfer from Tana to Mananjary from May 16 to 20, 2026.
Do you have a contact, please?
Best regards,
Jary
I'm looking for a private transfer from Tana to Mananjary from May 16 to 20, 2026.
Do you have a contact, please?
Best regards,
Jary
Well, I still feel a bit lonely about this destination—no requests for info, no travel journals, or trip reports since I last posted over a year ago. A little disheartening.
That said, I did cross paths with slightly more tourists this time. Not a ton, but enough to notice compared to my last stay. Beyond that, not much has changed—the people are just as lovely, and every interaction, whether at the market, in the medinas, in town, or in the countryside, was positive. It was so pleasant; my "alert meter" stayed at zero the whole time (which is pretty different from some other places I visit now and then). The roads outside the cities remain dangerous, and the accident rate seems high. Best to drive during the day and take it easy (on some rough stretches, you don’t really have a choice anyway). The scattered plastic and metal waste hasn’t magically disappeared, and it’s still pretty discouraging to see the most beautiful beaches surrounded by empty bottles, straws, diapers, and rusted carcasses of an old Xantia or a skeletal Espace. When it’s not on the beach itself (since those are cleaned), it’s just a few meters away. Usually, there’s not much in the water or close to shore—the seabeds are gorgeous, with coral and a wide variety of scaly friends... But stepping back onto the hardened lava, you dodge a chip bag or a shriveled battery. Such a paradox. Honestly, it’s like this almost everywhere except on hotel beaches or those far from human settlements. But otherwise, in places like Chomoni, Bouni, Itsandra, Moya, and Domoni (on Anjouan), Nioumachoua (on Mohéli, and even on the nearby islets), it’s hard to ignore. And it unfortunately tarnishes the beauty of these otherwise stunning spots.
That said, you can still find secluded micro-bays, protected and remote, where this isn’t an issue. And where there are hotels—like in Petite Itsandra in Moroni, in front of Laka Lodge in Nioumachoua, Trou du Prophète, or even Chomoni (though the surrounding areas are so littered...)—the beaches are cleaned, so...
So why go? Why still love it despite all this? Well, first, the Comorians themselves—that’s already essential and probably the main reason. Then there’s the breathtaking topography: the imposing Karthala, the dizzying peaks and cliffs of Anjouan, vast ravines, a tortured geology covered in lush nature, and Mohéli, much more serene and gentle, blanketed in spice plants and trees with names that make you dream, like an open-air spice market. The flora across the islands—the fields, trees, scents: clove trees, cinnamon trees, lychee, mango, cardamom, nutmeg, vanilla, coconut palms, banana trees, coffee plants, cocoa... A profusion of green dotted with red, white, and yellow berries and flowers... The seabeds are stunning in many places, and there are some beautiful beaches/oceanfront spots, especially near Trou du Prophète (but not only there). The history and culture—between traditional festivals, but especially the medinas with their staircases, covered passages, palaces, and mosques that create Escher-like constructions. I love wandering through them for hours, stumbling upon an unlikely shop, a more or less philosophical saying like "pain is a warning," "a promise is a debt," or the less original "little by little, the bird makes its nest." A grocery store, women negotiating freshly caught fish (usually tuna, immediately cut and ready to sell), kids playing, old men playing checkers, a call to prayer... In Moroni, Mutsamudu, and Domoni, I spent most of my "urban" time.
If anyone’s interested—though given the hype about Comoros on the forum, I doubt it—but if you need info on accommodation across the three islands, some restaurants, or sites to visit, don’t hesitate to ask.
This message is another message in a bottle (one more, if I dare...) for the Comoros destination.
That said, I did cross paths with slightly more tourists this time. Not a ton, but enough to notice compared to my last stay. Beyond that, not much has changed—the people are just as lovely, and every interaction, whether at the market, in the medinas, in town, or in the countryside, was positive. It was so pleasant; my "alert meter" stayed at zero the whole time (which is pretty different from some other places I visit now and then). The roads outside the cities remain dangerous, and the accident rate seems high. Best to drive during the day and take it easy (on some rough stretches, you don’t really have a choice anyway). The scattered plastic and metal waste hasn’t magically disappeared, and it’s still pretty discouraging to see the most beautiful beaches surrounded by empty bottles, straws, diapers, and rusted carcasses of an old Xantia or a skeletal Espace. When it’s not on the beach itself (since those are cleaned), it’s just a few meters away. Usually, there’s not much in the water or close to shore—the seabeds are gorgeous, with coral and a wide variety of scaly friends... But stepping back onto the hardened lava, you dodge a chip bag or a shriveled battery. Such a paradox. Honestly, it’s like this almost everywhere except on hotel beaches or those far from human settlements. But otherwise, in places like Chomoni, Bouni, Itsandra, Moya, and Domoni (on Anjouan), Nioumachoua (on Mohéli, and even on the nearby islets), it’s hard to ignore. And it unfortunately tarnishes the beauty of these otherwise stunning spots.
That said, you can still find secluded micro-bays, protected and remote, where this isn’t an issue. And where there are hotels—like in Petite Itsandra in Moroni, in front of Laka Lodge in Nioumachoua, Trou du Prophète, or even Chomoni (though the surrounding areas are so littered...)—the beaches are cleaned, so...
So why go? Why still love it despite all this? Well, first, the Comorians themselves—that’s already essential and probably the main reason. Then there’s the breathtaking topography: the imposing Karthala, the dizzying peaks and cliffs of Anjouan, vast ravines, a tortured geology covered in lush nature, and Mohéli, much more serene and gentle, blanketed in spice plants and trees with names that make you dream, like an open-air spice market. The flora across the islands—the fields, trees, scents: clove trees, cinnamon trees, lychee, mango, cardamom, nutmeg, vanilla, coconut palms, banana trees, coffee plants, cocoa... A profusion of green dotted with red, white, and yellow berries and flowers... The seabeds are stunning in many places, and there are some beautiful beaches/oceanfront spots, especially near Trou du Prophète (but not only there). The history and culture—between traditional festivals, but especially the medinas with their staircases, covered passages, palaces, and mosques that create Escher-like constructions. I love wandering through them for hours, stumbling upon an unlikely shop, a more or less philosophical saying like "pain is a warning," "a promise is a debt," or the less original "little by little, the bird makes its nest." A grocery store, women negotiating freshly caught fish (usually tuna, immediately cut and ready to sell), kids playing, old men playing checkers, a call to prayer... In Moroni, Mutsamudu, and Domoni, I spent most of my "urban" time.
If anyone’s interested—though given the hype about Comoros on the forum, I doubt it—but if you need info on accommodation across the three islands, some restaurants, or sites to visit, don’t hesitate to ask.
This message is another message in a bottle (one more, if I dare...) for the Comoros destination.
hi there
I’ll be in Antalaha in October and need to get to Maroantsetra. I’ve heard it’s possible by boat, but I can’t find any info about it. So I’m wondering if I’ll have to arrange something with local fishing boats or something else, and whether it’s a risky trip since the sea can get rough on Madagascar’s east coast. Has anyone done this before, or just know anything about it? What do you think?
I’ll be in Antalaha in October and need to get to Maroantsetra. I’ve heard it’s possible by boat, but I can’t find any info about it. So I’m wondering if I’ll have to arrange something with local fishing boats or something else, and whether it’s a risky trip since the sea can get rough on Madagascar’s east coast. Has anyone done this before, or just know anything about it? What do you think?
Hello, we’re heading to Mauritius for two weeks at the end of October. We’ll be staying in Trou aux Biches. We’d like to explore the island by bus if possible, so if you have any tips, we’d love to hear them. We’re on half-board, so we’ll also be checking out some nice, typical little restaurants and snack spots. Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi, is it possible to find out? How can I stay for 3 consecutive months in Madagascar, based on a fixed-date flight ticket? In short, how do I get a visa stamped at the airport??
Does anyone know if there’s maritime transport from the southern tip of Africa to a port in MADAGASCAR?
CHEAPER THAN A FLIGHT, see you soon, fellow traveler!!
Does anyone know if there’s maritime transport from the southern tip of Africa to a port in MADAGASCAR?
CHEAPER THAN A FLIGHT, see you soon, fellow traveler!!
Hi there,
We’ve booked accommodation at Digwa Beach Chalet on La Digue. We’ll be arriving and leaving by ferry.
We’re only a 20-minute walk from our rental.
I was wondering if anyone has stayed at this place before and knows if they pick you up from the ferry? Is it free? How much does it cost?
My husband has reduced mobility and with the luggage, it’s not going to be easy. I’ve sent a message to the accommodation but haven’t heard back yet... Thanks so much for your help!
hi, does anyone have any recent info on the condition of this RN6 route? roadworks? maintenance?
and of course, about the two river crossings at Gué between Ambanja and Ambilobe on the Ifatsy and Mahavavy rivers (at the entrance to Ambilobe)
condition of the ferries, possible start of work on the bridges (with the addition of Bailey bridges)
any info after the rainy season, meaning after April 2025
thanks
Can you tell me how long (on average...) the Tana to Tamatave trip takes with local minibus transport?
Which reliable company do you recommend for booking?
Hi there,
We’re thinking of doing the train journey from Fianarantsoa to Manakara again. Is the train still running? After that, we’re planning to go from Manakara to Fort Dauphin by 4x4. Thanks for any tips you can share!
Hello,
After over 40 years of traveling, I’ve never used a driver-guide before.
Given my age, this time I’d like to avoid being squeezed into a bush taxi. I’ve never rented a 4x4 but usually go for sedans.
So, for my upcoming trip to Madagascar, I decided to hire a 4x4 with a driver. I contacted about ten agencies and guides listed in the GR, LP, and travel forums. The quotes I got for 20 days range from 6000 € to 1300 €, with or without fuel included. Most ask for either a full bank transfer upfront or a mobile wallet payment (30%, etc.) from France.
Personally, I’d prefer to see the vehicle and the driver before making any payment.
Also, I’d rather pay at the end of my trip.
Is it possible to find a provider in Tana upon arrival for around 50 or 60 € per day, including fuel, with short notice, some flexibility in my itinerary, and without being forced to accept the dictates of agencies or drivers recommended on certain forums?
Thanks for your replies.
Hello!
My wife and I (Quebecers, 63 years old, retired, celebrating our 45 years together this year, including 20 years of marriage) have chosen to mark the occasion with a trip to Dubai, Réunion, and Mauritius (4 days in Dubai, then 24 days on the islands).
We have a lot of experience planning road trips (scouting routes, visits, hotels, and restaurants of interest), but we travel without reservations to keep the freedom to follow our instincts and tips we get on the spot. We’re moderately active physically and prefer the countryside and beaches over big cities. Our only fixed dates: arrival in Réunion on October 5th and departure from Mauritius on October 29th.
After lots of reading and with the help of an AI (super useful for drafting a first outline!), here’s a possible itinerary framework. Nothing is set in stone—I’d love your suggestions, comments, and thoughts on what’s worth adding or avoiding. Are the proposed bases optimal? Also, if you have recommendations for hotels (mid-range budget of 100–200 euros per night), restaurants, etc., I’m all ears! ;-)
Thanks! 😊
🌴 Réunion (October 5–13, 9 days) Base 1 – Saint-Gilles / L’Hermitage (October 5–8, 3 nights) Oct 5 (Sun): Settle in, relax at L’Hermitage beach. Oct 6 (Mon): Saint-Paul market (morning), beach + sunset at Boucan Canot. Oct 7 (Tue): Excursion to Maïdo (view of Mafate), return via Saint-Leu (Stella Matutina). Oct 8 (Wed): Beach + dolphin/whale-watching boat trip.
Base 2 – Cilaos (October 8–10, 2 nights) Oct 9 (Thu): Route des 400 virages, stroll through the village and Roche Merveilleuse. Oct 10 (Fri): Hike to Bras Rouge (3–4h) or the Chapelle canyon. Creole inn evening.
Base 3 – Plaine des Cafres / Bourg-Murat (October 10–13, 3 nights) Oct 11 (Sat): Road to the volcano → Plaine des Sables → Piton de la Fournaise. Oct 12 (Sun): Wild south coast at Cap Méchant, lava flows, Jardin Parfums, Grande Anse beach. Oct 13 (Mon): Relaxed morning, flight from Réunion to Mauritius.
🏝️ Mauritius (October 13–29, 16 days) Base 1 – Grand Baie / Pereybère (October 13–18, 5 nights) Oct 13 (Mon): Settle in, swim at Mont Choisy. Oct 14 (Tue): Boat excursion to Île Plate & Coin de Mire. Oct 15 (Wed): Pamplemousses Garden + L’Aventure du Sucre. Evening in Grand Baie. Oct 16 (Thu): Trou aux Biches beach, snorkeling. Oct 17 (Fri): Free day, relaxation/shopping.
Base 2 – Flic-en-Flac / Tamarin (October 18–23, 5 nights) Oct 18 (Sat): Drive to the west, settle in, beach. Oct 19 (Sun): Dolphin excursion in Tamarin, relax in the afternoon. Oct 20 (Mon): Chamarel: Terres 7 Couleurs + rum distillery. Oct 21 (Tue): Black River Gorges (hike + waterfalls). Oct 22 (Wed): Snorkeling + sunset.
Base 3 – Belle Mare / Trou d’Eau Douce (October 23–26, 3 nights) Oct 23 (Thu): Settle in, Belle Mare beach. Oct 24 (Fri): Catamaran excursion to Île aux Cerfs. Oct 25 (Sat): Flacq market (morning), beach in the afternoon.
Base 4 – Mahébourg / Blue Bay (October 26–29, 3 nights) Oct 26 (Sun): Settle in, snorkeling at Blue Bay Marine Park. Oct 27 (Mon): Pointe d’Esny + Île aux Aigrettes. Oct 28 (Tue): Free beach day + Mahébourg village. Oct 29 (Wed): Morning swim, return flight at 4 PM (airport is 15 min away).
My wife and I (Quebecers, 63 years old, retired, celebrating our 45 years together this year, including 20 years of marriage) have chosen to mark the occasion with a trip to Dubai, Réunion, and Mauritius (4 days in Dubai, then 24 days on the islands).
We have a lot of experience planning road trips (scouting routes, visits, hotels, and restaurants of interest), but we travel without reservations to keep the freedom to follow our instincts and tips we get on the spot. We’re moderately active physically and prefer the countryside and beaches over big cities. Our only fixed dates: arrival in Réunion on October 5th and departure from Mauritius on October 29th.
After lots of reading and with the help of an AI (super useful for drafting a first outline!), here’s a possible itinerary framework. Nothing is set in stone—I’d love your suggestions, comments, and thoughts on what’s worth adding or avoiding. Are the proposed bases optimal? Also, if you have recommendations for hotels (mid-range budget of 100–200 euros per night), restaurants, etc., I’m all ears! ;-)
Thanks! 😊
🌴 Réunion (October 5–13, 9 days) Base 1 – Saint-Gilles / L’Hermitage (October 5–8, 3 nights) Oct 5 (Sun): Settle in, relax at L’Hermitage beach. Oct 6 (Mon): Saint-Paul market (morning), beach + sunset at Boucan Canot. Oct 7 (Tue): Excursion to Maïdo (view of Mafate), return via Saint-Leu (Stella Matutina). Oct 8 (Wed): Beach + dolphin/whale-watching boat trip.
Base 2 – Cilaos (October 8–10, 2 nights) Oct 9 (Thu): Route des 400 virages, stroll through the village and Roche Merveilleuse. Oct 10 (Fri): Hike to Bras Rouge (3–4h) or the Chapelle canyon. Creole inn evening.
Base 3 – Plaine des Cafres / Bourg-Murat (October 10–13, 3 nights) Oct 11 (Sat): Road to the volcano → Plaine des Sables → Piton de la Fournaise. Oct 12 (Sun): Wild south coast at Cap Méchant, lava flows, Jardin Parfums, Grande Anse beach. Oct 13 (Mon): Relaxed morning, flight from Réunion to Mauritius.
🏝️ Mauritius (October 13–29, 16 days) Base 1 – Grand Baie / Pereybère (October 13–18, 5 nights) Oct 13 (Mon): Settle in, swim at Mont Choisy. Oct 14 (Tue): Boat excursion to Île Plate & Coin de Mire. Oct 15 (Wed): Pamplemousses Garden + L’Aventure du Sucre. Evening in Grand Baie. Oct 16 (Thu): Trou aux Biches beach, snorkeling. Oct 17 (Fri): Free day, relaxation/shopping.
Base 2 – Flic-en-Flac / Tamarin (October 18–23, 5 nights) Oct 18 (Sat): Drive to the west, settle in, beach. Oct 19 (Sun): Dolphin excursion in Tamarin, relax in the afternoon. Oct 20 (Mon): Chamarel: Terres 7 Couleurs + rum distillery. Oct 21 (Tue): Black River Gorges (hike + waterfalls). Oct 22 (Wed): Snorkeling + sunset.
Base 3 – Belle Mare / Trou d’Eau Douce (October 23–26, 3 nights) Oct 23 (Thu): Settle in, Belle Mare beach. Oct 24 (Fri): Catamaran excursion to Île aux Cerfs. Oct 25 (Sat): Flacq market (morning), beach in the afternoon.
Base 4 – Mahébourg / Blue Bay (October 26–29, 3 nights) Oct 26 (Sun): Settle in, snorkeling at Blue Bay Marine Park. Oct 27 (Mon): Pointe d’Esny + Île aux Aigrettes. Oct 28 (Tue): Free beach day + Mahébourg village. Oct 29 (Wed): Morning swim, return flight at 4 PM (airport is 15 min away).
Hey there,
I’m moving to Réunion Island in September and I’d love to hear about your experiences there. What’s there to do and what should I avoid?
Do you have any great tips for budget-friendly accommodation or places to stay?
Any advice on how to save money while I’m there?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
My friend and I are heading to Madagascar in March, and we were wondering if it’s possible to bring some cash and top up once we’re there (specifically in Tana).
Is it worth exchanging money if euros are accepted everywhere?
Thanks for your always super helpful tips on VF!
Hi there,
How do you get from Tamatave or Foulpointe to Sainte Marie Island? We’re heading to Madagascar from July 16 to 29, 2025.
How many days should we stay to explore the area?
What’s there to do in Tamatave, Foulpointe, or Sainte Marie Island?
What should we visit?
Thanks everyone!
Hi,
I’m taking the Cotisse bus soon to go to Antsohihy, so the route is Tana-Majunga with a stop at Antanambaza.
How long does it take to get to Antanambaza? Should I leave at 6:30 PM or 7:00 AM?
Considering I’ll probably need to find a hotel while waiting for a *taxi be* to Antsohihy, I’d rather not arrive in the middle of the night.
And since I’m asking—does anyone have a hotel recommendation in Antanambaza?
Also, can you find a seat on a *taxi be* mid-route?
Thanks! !
Thanks! !
Hi everyone! I’ve put together an itinerary for Madagascar and would love to get your feedback if you can help—thanks!
December 6–9: Antananarivo 3 nights, sightseeing Andasibe-Mantadia National Park Rova of Antananarivo (Ambohimanga Fort) Lemurs’ Park
December 9–11: Fianarantsoa, 2 nights Ranomafana National Park
Ambalavao, December 11–13, 2 nights Andringitra National Park
December 13–15: Ranohira or Ilakaka, 2 nights Monkey Canyon visit Isalo National Park
December 15–18: Tulear, 3 nights Reniala Reserve visit Beach time, possible diving Antsokay Arboretum Ifaty Forest
December 18–19: Full day—take a flight to the capital and stay overnight Then on December 19, take the bus to Morondava
December 19–23: Morondava, 4 nights Kirindy Mitea National Park Avenue of the Baobabs Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park
12:30-hour bus ride from Morondava to the capital
Antananarivo, December 23–24 11:30-hour trip from the capital to Mahajanga
Mahajanga/Majunga, December 24–27, 3 nights Ankarafantsika National Park visit
Ambanja District, 3 nights December 27–30 Tsaratanana Nature Reserve visit Maromokotro trek
Nosy Be Island, December 30–January 7, 2026, 8 nights diving, beach time, relaxation, walks, hiking, snorkeling
Antsiranana, January 7–11, 4 nights Ambavanibe Bay visit Montagne d’Ambre National Park
Return to the capital for a flight home or a 28-hour bus ride
1 or 2 nights in Antananarivo depending on the return trip
January 13: Departure for France Arrival in Paris, France the next day
December 6–9: Antananarivo 3 nights, sightseeing Andasibe-Mantadia National Park Rova of Antananarivo (Ambohimanga Fort) Lemurs’ Park
December 9–11: Fianarantsoa, 2 nights Ranomafana National Park
Ambalavao, December 11–13, 2 nights Andringitra National Park
December 13–15: Ranohira or Ilakaka, 2 nights Monkey Canyon visit Isalo National Park
December 15–18: Tulear, 3 nights Reniala Reserve visit Beach time, possible diving Antsokay Arboretum Ifaty Forest
December 18–19: Full day—take a flight to the capital and stay overnight Then on December 19, take the bus to Morondava
December 19–23: Morondava, 4 nights Kirindy Mitea National Park Avenue of the Baobabs Tsingy de Bemaraha National Park
12:30-hour bus ride from Morondava to the capital
Antananarivo, December 23–24 11:30-hour trip from the capital to Mahajanga
Mahajanga/Majunga, December 24–27, 3 nights Ankarafantsika National Park visit
Ambanja District, 3 nights December 27–30 Tsaratanana Nature Reserve visit Maromokotro trek
Nosy Be Island, December 30–January 7, 2026, 8 nights diving, beach time, relaxation, walks, hiking, snorkeling
Antsiranana, January 7–11, 4 nights Ambavanibe Bay visit Montagne d’Ambre National Park
Return to the capital for a flight home or a 28-hour bus ride
1 or 2 nights in Antananarivo depending on the return trip
January 13: Departure for France Arrival in Paris, France the next day





