Nous avons 15 jours pleins et nous circulons en voiture de location.
Je souhaite déterminer :
1. Si l'itinéraire n'est pas un peu court (descendre un peu la vallée du Draa en plus ?)
2. Où faire étape ?
3. Où passer plusieurs nuits (Amtoudi, Tafraoute...) ?
Je suis aussi et même surtout à la recherche de bons plans touristiques sur le parcours : beaux coins où s'arrêter faire des balades, sites sympas à voir ou visiter, arrêts insolites, points de vues, détours qui en valent la peine, etc…
Bonjour,
La vallée du Draa , pourquoi pas !
Je recommande, a partir de Tazenaght la direction de Foum Zguid au sud puis Tata et Igherm par Tagmoute.
Cette route est pour moi l'une des plus belle avec des paysages rocheux magnifiques
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPaKFO6upd4)
Pour passer plusieurs nuits (2) plutôt Tafraout car des choses intéressantes à voir dans les environs..
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyMlAIew5iM)
A quelques kms (une quinzaine..) de Sidi Ifni en remontant sur Mirleft, voir la plage et les arches de Legzira..
Mais y aller a marée basse sinon impossibilité de passer sous les arches...
La plage blanche est aussi sympa a voir, au sud de Sidi Ifni..
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-VEp-cDKb8)
Cordialement.
En descendant d'Agadir en direction de Tiznit, je vous conseille un crochet à Tifnite, un petit village de pêcheurs plein de charme.
Puis une dizaine de km avant SIDI IFNI un crochet à Legzira pour voir les arches et les pêcheurs de poulpes sur leur chambre à air de camion.
A Amtoudi, ne pas rater la visite des greniers et si vous avez le temps la journée où accompagnés d'un guide vous irez d'abord à travers la palmeraie jusqu'aux gueltas où vous pourrez vous baigner avant de remonter la falaise pour rentrer.C'est superbe!
A Tafraoute, ne pas manquer le village d'Aday, les gorges de l'AIT Mansour et le village perché de Tagdicht ainsi que la vallée des Amelnes.
A Taliouine, allez voir le grenier de falaises d'Ifri, il est facilement accessible et si vous avez un peu de temps les gorges de Tislit.
En direction de Demnate sur la route 307 les paysages sont magnifiques et le pont naturel d'IMI N IFRI est une curiososité à ne pas rater .
Bien sûr, pourquoi pas une incursion dans la vallée du DRAA ou dans celle du Dades puisque les roses devraient être fleuries.La vallée des roses et la vallée des amandiers sont magnifiques en toutes saisons.
A Tafraout ne pas manquer les gorges d'Aït Mansour et les alentours , les greniers fortifiés ( les agadirs) de l'anti Atlas , bien sur il y a celui d'Amtoudi mais il y en a d'autres dans la région de Tafraoute . .
Vous ne feriez pas un grand détour en allant faire un tour dans la vallée du Draa.
De belles gorges après Taliouine , voir le carnet de voyage de Trostang .
Ce forum regorge de renseignements , bon voyage .
Donc descendre tranquillement en s'arrêtant un peu sur la cote, visiter Tiznit au passage et dormir près des arches de Legzira (marée de 110 le jour de notre passage). Puis un arrêt à Goulmine et une nuit dans l'oasis de Tighmert. Ensuite 2 nuits vers amtoudi pour les greniers et de la balade, et 2 ou 3 nuits du côté de Tafraoute. C'est peut-être un peu lent comme rythme, non ? Puis une nuit vers Taliouine et 2 quelque part entre Agdz et Zagora.
Ca fait 10 nuits pour l'instant et j'en ai 14.
La vallée des Rose est sympa en mai mais nous y étions en 2013 (carnet de voyage quelque part sur ce forum). Le Dadès est une idée, d'autant que je n'y suis plus retourné depuis longtemps. La N10 n'est pas folichonne, il serait peut-être intéressant de passer par Nkoub (je ne sais plus si il y a une bonne piste ensuite pour Boumalne), sinon par Alnif mais alors c'est vraiment plus long.
Autre suggestion:la vallée du paradis à une dizaine de km au nord d'Agadir.Ne pas hésiter à monter jusqu'au village de Targharte.Nombreuses piscines naturelles où faire trempette.
Je ne sais pas si je peux donner ces infos sur le forum mais tant pis puisqu'on me le demande. C'est le gite Tigmmi N'Tmazirte. Le proprio Houssen peut organiser des trecks, venir te chercher a Marrakech (au choix), organise des stages de cuisine et de poterie...LEs chambres sont très propres ainsi que les draps. Salle de bain privée, douche bien chaudes, petit déjeuner et repas du soir (délicieux et copieux) pour 200 dhrs par nuit. Une journée de treck 200 dhrs. Je suis tjrs aussi ravie aujourd'hui. Il y a même un hammam privé au feu de bois pour 100 dhrs!!!!! On se réveille entourée de montagne et la nuit rien que le bruit de l'oued. Un peu plus tard dans la saison, il fera encore meilleur mais l'avantage maintenant c'est que les amendiers sont en fleurs et il y en a beaucoup. Bref, une très bonne adresse. Cdlt
Pour taliouine c'est une petite petite ville lol un grand village ou ya beaucoup de choses à voir
la kasbah ou ya une maison d'hote
et une autre aussi nommé chez soad et pas mal d'auberge comme souktana safran .....
et pas mal de coperative du safran avec une maison de safran aussi a visité
un tres tres bon souk hebdomadaire trés animé trés autentique
des gorges de tislit et des greneir d'ifri de tizgui aussi
en gros une belle région ou ya moin de tourists pas de préssion tout est calme
les gens sont vraiment adorables et c'est un point de départ pour pas mal de rando ou de ballades
vous pouvez demandez plus d'info dans des maison d'hotes ou auberges il font tous des sorties
Bonjour, à cote de Agdz 5 km environ il y à la palmeraie de Tamnougalt, à l'entrée du village belle maison un peu luxueuse aves piscine et cheminée vaut le coup, dans la kasba chez Yacoub plus modeste mais bien et économique.
A Tygmert: villa boudjouf jamais fait, la maison saharaoui sommaire, toilette séche, un nouveau l'homme bleue et mon coup de cœur la maison nomade, chez Brahim, nous y allons souvent, au calme dans un beau jardin le soir ça sent le jasmin, des petits coins ou l'on peut lire ou discuté seul ou à plusieurs. La nourrriture est tres bonne, l'ambiance aussi. Nous y étons 3 semaines en Novembre (pendant les crues) et nous retournons en Mars. Depuis le temps que nous y allons Brahim et son personnel sont maintenant des amies. Ce n'est pas de la pub mais un constat. Joel et Marie Jo.
Maison NOMADES on y était en fin octobre.C'était notre second séjour chez Brahim, on a été déçus.Beau décor, c'est vrai, mais peu de contacts, petit déjeuner décevant, les chats dans les chambres...Dommage!La 1ère fois on avait aimé, on en avait gardé un bon souvenir, on avait fait une excursion aux sources d'eau chaude...Mais là, on n'y retournera pas!
225dh la demi-pension par personne pour une chambre sans sanitaires et un petit déjeuner minable(pain rassis réchauffé dans une poêle grasse, crêpes de la veille, ni beurre, ni miel...Ce n'était pas correct...
bonjour, dans un autre message, tu as déjà dit cela et je te crois. Je n'aie jamais connue cette situation chez Brahim, toujours impec, les chats il y en a partout au Maroc il faut fermer les portes. Le soir avec Brahim et Abdoul on faisait la chasse au chats pour les mettre dans la nature, Nous étions chez lui (3 semaines au mois 11) et nous retournons
en Mars pour x jours avant d'aller à Aglou et ailleurs ou le vent nous méne pour 2 mois, je vais lui en causer 2 mots. Peut'etre que son récent mariage l'a perturbé. Tout ne peux pas etre parfait. En tout les cas à mon avis, ayant fait de nombreuses chambres et autres hébergements, il est dans la moyenne supérieur. Peut'etre à un de ces jours. joel.
Bonsoir, c'est bien ce que je pensais. C'est dommage, je connais tres bien Brahim pour y avoir séjouné a plusieurs fois. Ce n'est pas parce que Trostang n'a pas aimé qu'il doit déconseiller cette maison. D'ailleurs il n'y a séjouné qu'un petit peu. Nous n'avons pas du tout à nous plaindre au contraire, nous retournons en mars. Vas y sans crainte, un petit écart peut arrivé, nous avons eue la chance de ne jamais etre déçus, si tu veux plus de precisions, passe en mp.
Je laisse chacun faire ses choix...
Je ne fais que relater ce que j'ai vécu là-bas.Prestations très decevantes en automne 2014.
J'y étais déjà passe il y a quelques années, au début de l'ouverture de sa maison, et j'avais été assez satisfait pour avoir souhaité y retourner.Mais ce ne sera plus le cas....
Quand on est contents, on le dit sur les forums, quand on n'est pas satisfaits, on doit pouvoir le dire aussi...
Mais, je n'empêche personne d'y aller...je n'en ai ni le pouvoir, ni la prétention et c'est très bien ainsi.
Tu vois ça à ta façon, maintenant le mal est fait, si tout les forumistes se plaignait de ces pettits désagréments ce serait grave. Maintenant le mal est fait à cause de toi. arretons ce triste debat. A notre retour nous reviendrons sur ce sujet pour remonter la cote de la maison nomade.
J'avais moi aussi eu l'occasion précédemment de conseiller cette maison, mais cette fois j'ai constaté que de nombreux aménagements avaient été faits, le décor, très bien, mais les prestations n'étaient pas à la hauteur.J'ai passé 2 mois et demi au Maroc cet automne et c'est le seul établissement où je ne retournerai plus...
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.