Circuit de trois mois dans l'Ouest des Etats-Unis
by Boumtchak
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour!
Nous projetons un "périple" de 3 mois aux us avec nos 2enfants de 9 et 13 ans.Nous souhaitions, dans un premier temps nous rendre d'abord à Phoenix pour rejoindre les parcs nationaux Jasper et Banff en passant par le Grand Canyon, la réserve Havasupai, Chelly, Mesa verde, Bryce Canyon, Zion, Yosémite, Grand Teton, Glacier National Park, et donc le Canada et ce du 15 avril 2008 au 15 juillet 2008.
Mais nous ne sommes pas sûrs que ce soit la meilleure solution, en effet ne serait-il pas souhaitable de partir en sens inverse du 15 août au 15 novembre en raison de divers critères tels que la chaleur, la fréquentation etc...
Merci pour votre aide et nous attendons avec impatience vos réponses.😇
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Bonjour,
Je ne pense pas que ca change grand chose de partir en mai/juin/juillet ou aout/septembre/octobre aussi bien niveau temperatures que pour la foule. Juillet et aout etant les mois les plus frequentes, mai juin septembre et octobre sont parfait.
Par contre si tu pars aux USA avec un Visa Waiver, tu ne peux pas faire du 15 ou 15 car tu ne peux rester que 90 jours et non 3 mois (a deux jours pres il te faut un visa B2), donc attention si tu achete tes billets d'avions de ne pas faire d'erreur.
Bon voyage!
Je ne pense pas que ca change grand chose de partir en mai/juin/juillet ou aout/septembre/octobre aussi bien niveau temperatures que pour la foule. Juillet et aout etant les mois les plus frequentes, mai juin septembre et octobre sont parfait.
Par contre si tu pars aux USA avec un Visa Waiver, tu ne peux pas faire du 15 ou 15 car tu ne peux rester que 90 jours et non 3 mois (a deux jours pres il te faut un visa B2), donc attention si tu achete tes billets d'avions de ne pas faire d'erreur.
Bon voyage!
Audrey
La foule n'est pas un problème dans les Rockies canadiennes et ce sens évitera la grosse chaleur. Glacier parc fin août doit être plus vivable que début de mois et la faune moins dérangée, donc plus de chances de voir des animaux mais le froid tombe vite en septembre sur le nord.
Beau projet que de faire cette ouest mmerveilleux sur trois mois.😉
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hello!
Voilà, j'ai planché un peu sur le planning:
j1:phoenix
j2:phoenix(Papago park, phoenix zoo)pour s'acclimater au décalage horaire mais est-ce que ça vaut le coup???
j3:phoenix(sonoran desert)-tucson
j4:tucson-saguaro-chiricahua national monument
j5:visite du park
j6:fort bowie
j7:retour sur phoenix par apache trail
j8:apache junction-gold field-ghost town-lost dutchman state park;ces 2 sites valent-ils la peine de stationner 1 jour
j9:apache junction-sedona
j10-11:balade autour de sedona
j12:sedona-supai
j13-14:canyon havasupai
j15:départ pour le grd canyon
j16-17:descente au fond du grd canyon???
j18:page(antelope canyon-horse shoe bend)
j19:navarro national monument-betatakin ruins
j20-21:keet seel
j22:monument valley
j23:valley of god -natural bridge
j24-25-26:location de house boat sur le lac powell au départ de halls crossing
j27:halls crossing-cortez
j28-29:mesa verde
j30:cortez-chinle
j31:canyon de chelly
j32:cortez-moab
j33:arch-parc avenue-delicate arch
j34:devils garden
j35:canyon land-mesa arch-aztec ruins-false kiva
j36:white rim road(si location de 4x4)
j37-38:moab-bryce
j39:bryce-queen's garden/pekaboo loop
j40:bryce-ferry land loop
j41:bryce-zion
j42:zion-angels landing
j43:middle emerald pools/canyon overlook
j44:tailor creek ou the narrows(j'aimerais avoir votre avis sur the narrow)
j45:las vegas
j46:las vegas-sequoia
j47:sequoia
j48sequoia-yosémite
j49-50:merced lake-ascention half dome
j51-52:visite valley, différents points de vue(repos, détente...)
j53:tioga road
j54:lyell canyon vers donohue pass(est-ce faisable en un jour?)
j55-56:en route vers grd teton
j57-58:paint brush canyon-lake solitude
j59:repos
j60:taggart lake-lake bradley
j61:repos
j62:yellowstone
j63:yellowstone sheridan
j64:fort phil kearny(je ne suis pas du tout sur que ça vaille le coup??)
j65:little big horn
j66:en route vers glacier national park
j67-72:randonnées:red eagle lake, iceberg lake, pitamakan pass...
j73:passage au canada vers banff
j74-78:randonnées:sentinel pass, morain lake...
j79-85:jasper national park;j'aimerais passer une journée en canöe avec les enfants sur le lac maligne(bonne ou mauvaise idée?)
j86:jasper-mount baker
j87:ballade vers le mont shuksan(j'ai le poster dans ma chambre depuis mes 15 ans...)
j88:seattle
j89:seattle-new york(transfert en avion bien sûr!)
j90-91:visite de new york
j92:retour sur paris
ON sait que l'on déborde encore sur le temps, où pourrait-on couper?
Peut-on être inquiété en passant 15 jours au canada avant de rentrer de nouveau aux us pour reprendre l'avion?
Je remercie les auteurs du site:"les merveilles de l'ouest américain" et ceux du site "arizona dream" qui m'ont été d'une grande aide pour l'élaboration du projet.
Un grand merci à vous tous qui prenez le temps de me lire et de me répondre
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Bonjour,
Peut-on être inquiété en passant 15 jours au canada avant de rentrer de nouveau aux us pour reprendre l'avion? Absolument, vous ne pourrez pas revenir aux USA si vous etes au Canada et que les 90 sont depasses. De plus si vos billets retour sont a + de 90 jours de votre arrive, vous ne passerez certainement pas l'immigration (si toutefois on vous laisse embarquercar les compagnies aeriennes parfois verifient les dates).
Peut-on être inquiété en passant 15 jours au canada avant de rentrer de nouveau aux us pour reprendre l'avion? Absolument, vous ne pourrez pas revenir aux USA si vous etes au Canada et que les 90 sont depasses. De plus si vos billets retour sont a + de 90 jours de votre arrive, vous ne passerez certainement pas l'immigration (si toutefois on vous laisse embarquercar les compagnies aeriennes parfois verifient les dates).
Audrey
vous ne pourrez pas revenir aux USA si vous etes au Canada et que les 90 sont depasses.
Je me suis mal exprimee, en effet vous ne pourrez pas revenir aux USA si les 90 jours sont depasses mais je voullais dire que vous ne pouvez pas depasser 90 jours sur le territoire nord Americain (Canada-USA-Mexique-Bahamas). Donc meme en passant 15 jours au Canada, vous ne pourrez pas rester 92 jours sur le continent nord Americain.
Si vos billets retours ne depassent pas les 90 jours, vous ne serez pas inquietes en allant au Canada avant de revenir aux USA.
Je me suis mal exprimee, en effet vous ne pourrez pas revenir aux USA si les 90 jours sont depasses mais je voullais dire que vous ne pouvez pas depasser 90 jours sur le territoire nord Americain (Canada-USA-Mexique-Bahamas). Donc meme en passant 15 jours au Canada, vous ne pourrez pas rester 92 jours sur le continent nord Americain.
Si vos billets retours ne depassent pas les 90 jours, vous ne serez pas inquietes en allant au Canada avant de revenir aux USA.
Audrey
merci pour vos precisions. j'ai également des problèmes de parcour, sur un autre site des personnes beaucoup plus expérimenté que moi pense que le trajet est mal pensé, mal équilibré surtout avec des enfants.Je pense que vous êtes sur place, ce serait gentil de votre part de me donner votre avis sur ce qui est faisable ou non.
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Bonjour,
Meme si je suis aux USA, je suis dans l'Est et je n'ai pas plus d'experiance de l'ouest des USA que les personnes qui t'ont repondu sur cet autre forum (j'ai lu la discution de ce form et leur conseils sont tres constructifs). Les parcours que j'ai fais dans cette region se sont presque limites aux sites touristiques donc mes conseils ne seront pas meilleurs que ceux de fabienne.
En detaillant ton circuit je vois que tu n'as pas mis d'etape a San Francisco, est ce volontaire ou juste un oublie? Pour un voyage de 3 mois, ca me parrait impensable de ne pas visiter cette ville et surtout de ne pas y accorder au moins 3 jours...
Meme si je suis aux USA, je suis dans l'Est et je n'ai pas plus d'experiance de l'ouest des USA que les personnes qui t'ont repondu sur cet autre forum (j'ai lu la discution de ce form et leur conseils sont tres constructifs). Les parcours que j'ai fais dans cette region se sont presque limites aux sites touristiques donc mes conseils ne seront pas meilleurs que ceux de fabienne.
En detaillant ton circuit je vois que tu n'as pas mis d'etape a San Francisco, est ce volontaire ou juste un oublie? Pour un voyage de 3 mois, ca me parrait impensable de ne pas visiter cette ville et surtout de ne pas y accorder au moins 3 jours...
Audrey
c'est mon gros problème, j'ai toujours envie de rajouter des des jours par çi par là, mais jamais d'en enlever.dans un premier temps nous voulions aller jusqu'a anchorage, le voyage durait 5 mois et était totalement irréalisable, du moins pour nous. nous avons réussit par la force des choses à supprimer pratiquement 2 mois, mais maintenant nous avons beaucoup de mal à finaliser le planning. nous avons volontairement zappé san francisco, également à moindre échelle yellowstone qui faisait partie du premier projet.
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Le parc de l'ouest des USA qui m'a le plus emerveille a ete Yellowstone
La ville de l'ouest des USA que j'ai le plus aime a ete San Fransisco
Bien sur c'est un avis personel mais je pense que beaucoup de personnes ayant deja visite l'ouest des USA te diront de ne pas zapper ces etapes...Ton voyage dure 3 mois, tu as largement le temps de visiter les must de la region!
Bien sur c'est un avis personel mais je pense que beaucoup de personnes ayant deja visite l'ouest des USA te diront de ne pas zapper ces etapes...Ton voyage dure 3 mois, tu as largement le temps de visiter les must de la region!
Audrey
j'ai prévu de passer seulement 2 jours à yellowstone et encore il y a un trajet en voiture inclu dans ces 2 jours. je vais encore essayer de rogner quelque part pour faire une petite visite à san francisco. si seulement on pouvait rester 95 ou 96 jours, ça m'arrangerait.
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Je pense sincerement qu'il y a de quoi rogner et que dans ce circuit il y a beaucoup d'endroits (entre ceux qui me sont totalement inconus et ceux dont je n'ai jamais entendu le nom) que tu peux zapper.
Si ce voyage dans l'ouest est le premier, pourquoi ne pas prendre une carte, y entourer tous les incontournables (en gros tous les parc nationaux, quelques villes comme Las Vegas et san Francisco) et ensuite, a partir de la, faire un circuit en y incluant les etapes que tu as deja dans ton premier circuit qui ne te demandent pas de detours?
Yellowstone merite au minimum 4 jours pleins!
Si ce voyage dans l'ouest est le premier, pourquoi ne pas prendre une carte, y entourer tous les incontournables (en gros tous les parc nationaux, quelques villes comme Las Vegas et san Francisco) et ensuite, a partir de la, faire un circuit en y incluant les etapes que tu as deja dans ton premier circuit qui ne te demandent pas de detours?
Yellowstone merite au minimum 4 jours pleins!
Audrey
Pour mes sejours dans l'ouest des USA je me suis inspire du site d'un des membre du forum qui est parfait. Ce site regroupe les incontournables mais aussi les sites moins connus mais pourtant superbes.
Voici l'adresse : http://www.ouestusa.fr/
Voici l'adresse : http://www.ouestusa.fr/
Audrey
Juste une petite remarque, c'est clair qu'avec 3 mois, si tu passe pas au moins 3 jours à Yellowstone et que tu zappes S-F, la je comprend plus rien ...
Franchement revois ton planning, regarde une carte et fait déja un planning sur les incoutournable de l'ouest US ...
Sinon un peu comme certai, je trouve ton planning qui est à revoir pour mieux l'optimisé ...
Franchement revois ton planning, regarde une carte et fait déja un planning sur les incoutournable de l'ouest US ...
Sinon un peu comme certai, je trouve ton planning qui est à revoir pour mieux l'optimisé ...
Vis Heureux au Quebec ;)
bonjour; "les narrows", que ns avons fait 2 fois, a bcp plu à nos enfants, même plus agés; c'est faisable à tout âge; la randonnée de Taggart lake et lake bradley se fait en une seule fois, n'est pas difficile mais il y fait très chaud (ns y étions mi juin); de plus ce n'est pas aussi original que les narrows; Slide Rock State Park, entre Phoenix et Flagstaff, nous a aussi bcp plu (s'il fait chaud et si vs aimez l'eau froide) ; bons projets !!!
merci pour vos réponses. sais tu combien faut-il compter en temps pour les narrows.
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on y passe le temps qu'on veut, puisqu'il s'agit de remonter la rivière, en marchant ds l'eau, et on peut redescendre certaines parties en "nageant"; l'an dernier, on a du y passer 2 h aller retour, mais on pouvait aller + loin.
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan