Actuellement au vietnam en direct de Dalat jaimerai avoir un maximum dinfos sur les uses et cotumes afin de comprendre au mieux les vietnamiens et ainsi pouvoir partager au mieux. merci davance pour vos reponses... ;)
Connaître les us et coutumes vietnamiens
by Michaloud
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bônjour
Actuellement au vietnam en direct de Dalat jaimerai avoir un maximum dinfos sur les uses et cotumes afin de comprendre au mieux les vietnamiens et ainsi pouvoir partager au mieux. merci davance pour vos reponses... ;)
Actuellement au vietnam en direct de Dalat jaimerai avoir un maximum dinfos sur les uses et cotumes afin de comprendre au mieux les vietnamiens et ainsi pouvoir partager au mieux. merci davance pour vos reponses... ;)
bonjour
quelques infos
meme inviter chez des proches ou amis , on ce dechausse comme dans les pagodes
on evite de toucher la tete des enfants
il a auss iune histoire de pieds que je n ai pas integré totalement comme d avoir une certaine position des arpions qui peuvant blessés pointé vers une personne, ce mettre en colere et humilié un vietnamien qui serait extremement vexé.
une autre info amusante un vietnamien a qui tu demandes ton chemin dans la rue ou ailleurs te renseigneras toujours meme en ingnorant totalement ou ce trouve ce que tu cherches car la personne ne veux pas passer pour un idiot en ne repondant pas
Bonjour Michaloud,
Une piste : http://www.vina-pix.com/dossiers/guide-du-savoir-vivre-faire-savoir-voyager-au-vietnam-d-todo.html
Pierre.
Une piste : http://www.vina-pix.com/dossiers/guide-du-savoir-vivre-faire-savoir-voyager-au-vietnam-d-todo.html
Pierre.
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Vaste question, d'autant plus que le Vietnam compte 54 minorités, très différentes en tout des viets, majoritaires. En gros :
- On se déchausse toujours pour rentrer dans une maison
- On ne serre jamais la main de la main gauche
- On ne sert généralement la main qu'aux hommes ; salut de la tête aux femmes (et pas de bise, c'est très choquant)
- On présente toujours quelque chose en le tenant des 2 mains (j'aime bien)
- Cadeau quand on est invité ds une famille non "occidentalisée" (pour cette dernière, du vin est le bienvenue) : thé, gateaux, bonbons pour les enfants (j'ai offert un jour des fleurs à une viet, il paraît que son mari n'était pas content, donc...)
- "On" va vous dire qu'on ne crie pas et qu'on ne s'énerve pas, car on "perd la face". Ca fait 10 ans que je traîne en Asie et que je vois des asiatiques s'engueuler dans la rue, surtout les femmes, encore pire qu'en Occident, donc c'est une belle "salade".... Ceci dit, il est vrai qu'ici, plus on s'énerve après un local, plus il se ferme
- Surtout chez les minorités, le verre d'alcool de riz est la norme, le 1er cul sec (ils vont vs dire mot chomme mot chomme (phonétique), ce qui veut dire "100 %". Il faut y passer pour être poli à moins de dire qu'on ne boit pas d'alcool. Mais attention, la politesse veut que l'hôte remplisse le verre dès qu'il est vide ; donc si vs ne voulez pas "suivre", vs buvez juste une gorgée du 2e verre, sinon, c'est sans fin
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Bonjour Jacques,
Vaste programme en effet: j'y rajoute une petite pierre :
Lorsqu'on fait un cadeau, c'est normal que la personne qui le reçoit ne l'ouvre pas et le place un peu n'importe où comme si ça ne l'intéressait pas - c'est normal, ce n'est pas de la mauvaise éducation,
Effectivement jamais de bises, c'est à peine si on se serre la main..
On ne pointe pas les pieds en direction de quelqu'un - ça ne se fait pas, à la limite, ça porterait malheur,
On ne crie pas, mais j'ai encore en tête, et je pense vous aussi, comment les femmes traitent soit les autres femmes, soit les hommes quand elles sont en colère et qu'ils les ont spoliées - Mais je pense que vous savez ça, vous comme moi, car nous ne fréquentons pas que la "haute" bourgeoisie!!!🤪 le moins que l'on puisse dire, c'est que c'est "imagé".
Pour le verre sans fin, c'est valable aussi pour le thé... éviter soigneusement de finir sa petite tasse ou son petit verre... au début j'ai tout fini, et moi qui déteste le thé au-delà de tout.... je me suis retrouvée comme une barrique - donc, on se limite à tremper les lèvres, au besoin à faire semblant... sinon gare au supplice de l'eau!!!!!
Par contre, une chose qui agace prodigieusement les Vietnamiens et qui est peut être, en partie responsable de rapports commerciaux tendus, le Vietnamien déteste qu'on demande un prix de n'importe quoi, si c'est juste par curiosité - Si on demande un prix, c'est qu'on a l'intention d'acheter, et comme il a le sens commercial, il le sait - nous, en occident, nous avons la fâcheuse manie de demander à tout bout de champ le prix... et on tourne les talons... c'est pas apprécié au Vietnam - Surtout si ça se passe le matin.... mauvais augure pour la journée - Par contre, si vous achetez et que vous êtes sans doute le premier client le matin, "vous ouvrez la boutique" et là vous aurez merci et sourire...
Dans une queue à un magasin, le Vietnamien aura bien tendance à vouloir vous passer devant.... faites lui un sourire, faites lui comprendre qu'il était derrière : il vous laissera la place sans souci, pas la peine de crier.. il essaie, mais devant le refus, il s'efface...😄
Dire bonjour(en n'importe quelle langue) est aussi apprécié au Vietnam qu'ailleurs : la personne qui est en face de nous a autant d'amour-propre que nous... donc, c'est si facile... et avec un sourire, c'est le césame!!!🤪
Voilà en très gros, je pense que le restant vient tout seul par l'observation!!
Amitiés - Kimtwo
Vaste programme en effet: j'y rajoute une petite pierre :
Lorsqu'on fait un cadeau, c'est normal que la personne qui le reçoit ne l'ouvre pas et le place un peu n'importe où comme si ça ne l'intéressait pas - c'est normal, ce n'est pas de la mauvaise éducation,
Effectivement jamais de bises, c'est à peine si on se serre la main..
On ne pointe pas les pieds en direction de quelqu'un - ça ne se fait pas, à la limite, ça porterait malheur,
On ne crie pas, mais j'ai encore en tête, et je pense vous aussi, comment les femmes traitent soit les autres femmes, soit les hommes quand elles sont en colère et qu'ils les ont spoliées - Mais je pense que vous savez ça, vous comme moi, car nous ne fréquentons pas que la "haute" bourgeoisie!!!🤪 le moins que l'on puisse dire, c'est que c'est "imagé".
Pour le verre sans fin, c'est valable aussi pour le thé... éviter soigneusement de finir sa petite tasse ou son petit verre... au début j'ai tout fini, et moi qui déteste le thé au-delà de tout.... je me suis retrouvée comme une barrique - donc, on se limite à tremper les lèvres, au besoin à faire semblant... sinon gare au supplice de l'eau!!!!!
Par contre, une chose qui agace prodigieusement les Vietnamiens et qui est peut être, en partie responsable de rapports commerciaux tendus, le Vietnamien déteste qu'on demande un prix de n'importe quoi, si c'est juste par curiosité - Si on demande un prix, c'est qu'on a l'intention d'acheter, et comme il a le sens commercial, il le sait - nous, en occident, nous avons la fâcheuse manie de demander à tout bout de champ le prix... et on tourne les talons... c'est pas apprécié au Vietnam - Surtout si ça se passe le matin.... mauvais augure pour la journée - Par contre, si vous achetez et que vous êtes sans doute le premier client le matin, "vous ouvrez la boutique" et là vous aurez merci et sourire...
Dans une queue à un magasin, le Vietnamien aura bien tendance à vouloir vous passer devant.... faites lui un sourire, faites lui comprendre qu'il était derrière : il vous laissera la place sans souci, pas la peine de crier.. il essaie, mais devant le refus, il s'efface...😄
Dire bonjour(en n'importe quelle langue) est aussi apprécié au Vietnam qu'ailleurs : la personne qui est en face de nous a autant d'amour-propre que nous... donc, c'est si facile... et avec un sourire, c'est le césame!!!🤪
Voilà en très gros, je pense que le restant vient tout seul par l'observation!!
Amitiés - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
En ce qui concerne les cadeaux, ne vous offusquez pas s'ils ne sont pas ouverts devant vous.
Ils ne le seront qu'un peu plus tard, à l'écart de votre présence .
Très souvent une partie de votre cadeau ira rejoindre l'autel des ancêtre -petit pagodon à l'entrée de pratiquement tous les habitations, commerces ou hôtels - où l'on brûle des bâtons d'encens et expose votre présent en guise d’offrande.
De plus lorsque l'on fait un cadeau à un vietnamien il faut s'attendre :
1) à un cadeau immédiat de sa part en retour
2) à un partage de votre cadeau si cela est possible bien sûr avec tous les membres de sa famille.
Je ne sais pas si c'est la tradition mais c'est ce que j'ai pu constater
bonjour une autre info amusante un vietnamien a qui tu demandes ton chemin dans la rue ou ailleurs te renseigneras toujours meme en ingnorant totalement ou ce trouve ce que tu cherches car la personne ne veux pas passer pour un idiot en ne repondant pas
ca doit être partout dans le monde ça!! parce qu'en bolivie c'était pareil!!
ca doit être partout dans le monde ça!! parce qu'en bolivie c'était pareil!!
La beauté sera convulsive ou ne sera pas.
Larsay et Kimtwo ont raison.
mais moi j vais vous expliquer la raisons de:
On ne serre jamais la main de la main gauche
car la main gauche est reservee pour se nettoyer apres etre alle a la selle (WC).
On présente toujours quelque chose en le tenant des 2 mains (j'aime bien)
surtout si c'est trop lourd
On se déchausse toujours pour rentrer dans une maison
pour respecter le travail de la menagere.
le 1er cul sec (ils vont vs dire mot chomme mot chomme (phonétique), ce qui veut dire "100 %".
en fait ca se dit "mot tram" mais les Viets disent plus souvent "cent pou cent", ils ne savent pas que c'est du francais mais ils disent ca, moi souvent je leur explique. egalement, en levant le verre il faut dire : "mot, hai, ba, yo" ce qui signifie "un, deux, trois, chin chinh"..je maitrise car je suis un habitue..
On ne serre jamais la main de la main gauche
car la main gauche est reservee pour se nettoyer apres etre alle a la selle (WC).
On présente toujours quelque chose en le tenant des 2 mains (j'aime bien)
surtout si c'est trop lourd
On se déchausse toujours pour rentrer dans une maison
pour respecter le travail de la menagere.
le 1er cul sec (ils vont vs dire mot chomme mot chomme (phonétique), ce qui veut dire "100 %".
en fait ca se dit "mot tram" mais les Viets disent plus souvent "cent pou cent", ils ne savent pas que c'est du francais mais ils disent ca, moi souvent je leur explique. egalement, en levant le verre il faut dire : "mot, hai, ba, yo" ce qui signifie "un, deux, trois, chin chinh"..je maitrise car je suis un habitue..
si vous n'aimez pas mes informations, ne les lisez pas, lisez autre chose, mais respectez les car elles serviront a d'autres
egalement, en levant le verre il faut dire : "mot, hai, ba, yo" ce qui signifie "un, deux, trois, chin chinh"..je maitrise car je suis un habitue..
Ah oui, je comprends le "yo" !!😉 combien de fois ai-je entendu et crier aussi en famille "mot, hai, ba, mais le yo était resté dans le fond de ma gorge, car je ne savais pas à quoi il correspondait!!!... et j'évitais de poser des questions, en regardant le plus discrètement possible le coca diet qui miroitait au fond du verre.........moi, je maitrise pas!!!!!! hi hi🤪
Kimtwo.
Ah oui, je comprends le "yo" !!😉 combien de fois ai-je entendu et crier aussi en famille "mot, hai, ba, mais le yo était resté dans le fond de ma gorge, car je ne savais pas à quoi il correspondait!!!... et j'évitais de poser des questions, en regardant le plus discrètement possible le coca diet qui miroitait au fond du verre.........moi, je maitrise pas!!!!!! hi hi🤪
Kimtwo.

Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Bonjour à tous, Kimtow bien entendu et tous ceux qui voudront bien répondre😏
Toute une série de questions SVP
Est il possible de demander à un vietnamien son métier, combien il gagne, s'il est marié, combien d'enfants il a , que font ils, de parler de politique, de religion ou de commerce, de lui demander à visiter sa maison, de l'inviter au café..etc. Ces questions très personnelles qui nous gènent souvent en France?
Toute une série de questions SVP
Est il possible de demander à un vietnamien son métier, combien il gagne, s'il est marié, combien d'enfants il a , que font ils, de parler de politique, de religion ou de commerce, de lui demander à visiter sa maison, de l'inviter au café..etc. Ces questions très personnelles qui nous gènent souvent en France?
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
Bonsoir,
Le Vietnamien, par nature, est très curieux... lui il voudra savoir en priorité combien vous gagnez, si vous avez des enfants, lesquels (inutile de dire que si ce sont des garçons, ce sera un peu mieux, )que vous soyez marié, il s'en fout,
Je vous dis ça, parce que lui, indépendamment de vous dire qu'il a X enfants, dont des garçons, ou des filles bien mariées (avec des riches) et que ses enfants vont à l'Université ou poursuivent des études.... eh bien il ne vous dira pas grand chose - en tout cas jamais son âge (les Vietnamiens mentent bien là-dessus, ) son métier : on ne lui demande pas.. il n'aimerait pas et de toutes manières ne vous dira pas la vérité, - Il ne parle jamais de politique, on peut deviner mais vous n'en tirerez pas une parole là-dessus pour plein de raisons, s'il a réussi à construire une maison, et si vous êtes assez proche de lui, il vous invitera peut-être à la visiter... mais pas au premier venu qu'il ne connait que d'hier...Quant à la religion, on n'en parle pas : les 90% des Vietnamiens sont bouddhistes, ne se cachent pas pour aller à la pagode, se livrer à des rituels, etc... mais n'en font pas état - Et si, par exception, ils font partie de la communauté catholique, il faudrait vraiment être de leurs amis pour qu'ils évoquent le sujet.
Quant à l'inviter au restaurant ou au café... il sera raide car il n'aura généralement pas les moyens de vous rendre cette invitation... et en général il refuse.(même la proche famille)
Voilà mon expérience de plusieurs années -
Cordialement - Kimtwo
Le Vietnamien, par nature, est très curieux... lui il voudra savoir en priorité combien vous gagnez, si vous avez des enfants, lesquels (inutile de dire que si ce sont des garçons, ce sera un peu mieux, )que vous soyez marié, il s'en fout,
Je vous dis ça, parce que lui, indépendamment de vous dire qu'il a X enfants, dont des garçons, ou des filles bien mariées (avec des riches) et que ses enfants vont à l'Université ou poursuivent des études.... eh bien il ne vous dira pas grand chose - en tout cas jamais son âge (les Vietnamiens mentent bien là-dessus, ) son métier : on ne lui demande pas.. il n'aimerait pas et de toutes manières ne vous dira pas la vérité, - Il ne parle jamais de politique, on peut deviner mais vous n'en tirerez pas une parole là-dessus pour plein de raisons, s'il a réussi à construire une maison, et si vous êtes assez proche de lui, il vous invitera peut-être à la visiter... mais pas au premier venu qu'il ne connait que d'hier...Quant à la religion, on n'en parle pas : les 90% des Vietnamiens sont bouddhistes, ne se cachent pas pour aller à la pagode, se livrer à des rituels, etc... mais n'en font pas état - Et si, par exception, ils font partie de la communauté catholique, il faudrait vraiment être de leurs amis pour qu'ils évoquent le sujet.
Quant à l'inviter au restaurant ou au café... il sera raide car il n'aura généralement pas les moyens de vous rendre cette invitation... et en général il refuse.(même la proche famille)
Voilà mon expérience de plusieurs années -
Cordialement - Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Bonjour Michaloud,
Une piste : http://www.vina-pix.com/...-vietnam-d-todo.html
Pierre.
Salut Pierre,
Super ton intervention !
Le lien que tu as eu la gentillesse de communiquer est très utile. Merci beaucoup !
Bonne soirée.
BALI (vidéo d'une crémation)
Une piste : http://www.vina-pix.com/...-vietnam-d-todo.html
Pierre.
Salut Pierre,
Super ton intervention !
Le lien que tu as eu la gentillesse de communiquer est très utile. Merci beaucoup !
Bonne soirée.
BALI (vidéo d'une crémation)
Voyager pour combattre la maladie de tous les siècles: L'IGNORANCE !
www.bena.over-blog.fr
Ils vont commencer par vs demander votre âge, comme aux USA où cela m'agacait presque aussi prodigieusement que le fait de m'appeler immédiatement par mon prénom, une belle hypocrisie ! Jamais compris pourquoi on demande l'âge de quelqu'un en Ocidenet, vu que tout le monde ment sur la question ; les plus jeunes se vieillissent, les anciens se rajeunissent, et les femmes un peu âgées ont toutes "la trentaine" ou "la quarantaine". Ici, c'est différent : c'est pour savoir comment s'adresser à vous, le respect de la personne plus âgée heritée du confucianisme. Il faut savoir qu'il y a 11 façons différente de dire "je", beaucoup dépendant de l'âge et de la position dans la famille de la personne à qui l'on s'adresse; ça va jusqu'à le dire différemment à un oncle si on est un enfant très jeune (bac') ou jeune (chu) ; 6 façons de dire "tu", etc.
Vous pouvez (et ils le font aussi) poser des questions sur la situation matrimoniale, le nombre d'enfants, la profession (à) moins que ce soit évident
Demander à visiter la maison ne se fait pas ; beaucoup vivent dans des pièces qu'ils préfèrent ne pas montrer à un Occidental. Je suis toujours dégoûté par les touristes qui, en trekking à Sapa par exemple, veulent absolument visiter une maison h'mong ou dao et en ressortent après avec des réflexions débiles du genre "Comment font-ils pour vivre là-dedans ?". J'ai envie de leur dire "je peux avoir votre adresse, j'aimerais bien voir chez vous ?". Par contre, on vous invitera souvent à boire le thé dans la maison, notemment chez les minorités, où l'hospitalité est sacrée.
Demander la religion n'est pas trop recommandé. Quant à la politique, les questions sur la Guerre du Vietnam, etc., oubliez, ça vaut mieux !
Tout cela sont des expériences personnelles, donc ....
J'ai oublié dans la liste des conseils : les locaux sont moins féroces sur la question qu'en Thaïlande, mais éviter de pénétrer dans les temples et les pagodes "en petite tenue" ; on ne vous dira rien, mais on n'en pensera pas moins !
Vous pouvez (et ils le font aussi) poser des questions sur la situation matrimoniale, le nombre d'enfants, la profession (à) moins que ce soit évident
Demander à visiter la maison ne se fait pas ; beaucoup vivent dans des pièces qu'ils préfèrent ne pas montrer à un Occidental. Je suis toujours dégoûté par les touristes qui, en trekking à Sapa par exemple, veulent absolument visiter une maison h'mong ou dao et en ressortent après avec des réflexions débiles du genre "Comment font-ils pour vivre là-dedans ?". J'ai envie de leur dire "je peux avoir votre adresse, j'aimerais bien voir chez vous ?". Par contre, on vous invitera souvent à boire le thé dans la maison, notemment chez les minorités, où l'hospitalité est sacrée.
Demander la religion n'est pas trop recommandé. Quant à la politique, les questions sur la Guerre du Vietnam, etc., oubliez, ça vaut mieux !
Tout cela sont des expériences personnelles, donc ....
J'ai oublié dans la liste des conseils : les locaux sont moins féroces sur la question qu'en Thaïlande, mais éviter de pénétrer dans les temples et les pagodes "en petite tenue" ; on ne vous dira rien, mais on n'en pensera pas moins !
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Je suis toujours dégoûté par les touristes qui, en trekking à Sapa par exemple, veulent absolument visiter une maison h'mong ou dao et en ressortent après avec des réflexions débiles du genre "Comment font-ils pour vivre là-dedans ?".
Les TO incluent souvent la visite des maisons dans leur programme..., à Sapa lors de mon dernier voyage , nous avons visité une maison, des habitant présents, j'ai le souvenir d'une jeune femme h'mong qui ne semblait pas apprécier cette intrusion...et je la comprend bien, je suis sortie pour ne pas la déranger plus.
Peu être faudrait il mettre plus de forme quand on propose ce genre de visite et être certain d'avoir l'assentiment de tous??
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
je le repete : SaPa et certaines villes de minorites du nord VN sont des "disneyland", c'est un circuit touristique comme un tour de manege, on vous montre ce qu'on veut bien vous montrer, et ensuite on vous vend des babioles.
faut savoir qu'il y a plus de cas de HIV ou de sida chez ces minorites du nord qu'ailleurs au VN..
n'en deplaise aux habitues du nord
si vous n'aimez pas mes informations, ne les lisez pas, lisez autre chose, mais respectez les car elles serviront a d'autres
Comme partout au monde, faites un circuit en France à Paris par exemple et vous ne verrez que la seine, la tour Eiffel les grands boulevards et les monuments, mais pas de visite dans le 13° par exemple ou à la défence, ni de tour des petit marchés de quartier, ni de flaneries au grè de vos pas.
Vous aurez vu Paris certe, ce qui est connu et qui en fait sa réputation, mais vous n'aurez pas vu la vraie vie des parisiens.
Nous touristes sommes aussi responsables de cet état de fait, si nous voulions bien nous donner la peine d'approfondir et si nos demandes étaient plus ciblées peut être aurions nous une autre approche des pays que nous visitons.
Ne jetons pas la pierre à ceux qui répondent à ce que nous nous contentons de vouloir (pour certains), les autres ( j'aimerais en faire partie) seront bien heureux de découvrir de vrais trèsors cachés😏.
Amitiés à ce pays que j'affectionne.
Amitiés à ce pays que j'affectionne.
Pour bien aimer un pays il faut le manger, le boire et l’entendre chanter. (Michel Déon)
je le repete : SaPa et certaines villes de minorites du nord VN sont des "disneyland",
Désolé de ne pas être d'accord du tout sur cette généralisation. En ce qui concerne Sapa, s'il est vrai que c'est Disneyworld SI on passe par une agence lambda, si on passe par une bonne agence spécialisée dans le trekking ou si on se débrouille sur place avec un(e) local(e), on peut se retrouver tout seul pendant des jours ; je le sais, je viens juste de le faire (3 jours en pleine montagne chez les yao à 1h30 de marche de Ta Phin, même pas accessible en moto).
Ca fait plusieurs fois que je vais à Bac Ha ; beaucoup de touristes le samedi et le dimanche ; le reste de la semaine, c'est vide. En plus, il y a de l'excellent trekking peu connu. Enfin, presque personne n'a la curiosité de "monter" au nord de Can Cau, sur Si Ma Cai et plus haut, et c'est pourtant fantastique (et complètement différent de la région de Sapa)
A Babe, j'ai fait un trek de fou de 3 jours au nord du lac, où je n'ai vu que des locaux
Bref, dès qu'on sort des sentiers battus, ce qui est très facile, c'est très loin d'être un Disnetworld, heureusement pour nous !
Désolé de ne pas être d'accord du tout sur cette généralisation. En ce qui concerne Sapa, s'il est vrai que c'est Disneyworld SI on passe par une agence lambda, si on passe par une bonne agence spécialisée dans le trekking ou si on se débrouille sur place avec un(e) local(e), on peut se retrouver tout seul pendant des jours ; je le sais, je viens juste de le faire (3 jours en pleine montagne chez les yao à 1h30 de marche de Ta Phin, même pas accessible en moto).
Ca fait plusieurs fois que je vais à Bac Ha ; beaucoup de touristes le samedi et le dimanche ; le reste de la semaine, c'est vide. En plus, il y a de l'excellent trekking peu connu. Enfin, presque personne n'a la curiosité de "monter" au nord de Can Cau, sur Si Ma Cai et plus haut, et c'est pourtant fantastique (et complètement différent de la région de Sapa)
A Babe, j'ai fait un trek de fou de 3 jours au nord du lac, où je n'ai vu que des locaux
Bref, dès qu'on sort des sentiers battus, ce qui est très facile, c'est très loin d'être un Disnetworld, heureusement pour nous !
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
moi egalement je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi Larsay.
tes minorites sont habitues aux touristes, ils attendent le touriste.
bien sur quelquefois il n'y a pas foule mais malgre tout c'est un disneyland a plus ou moins grande echelle.
amicalement Larsay
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Je suis par contre d'accord personnellement avec Larsay, Sapa c'est un choc quand on arrive , le vrai Disneyland !! Par contre lorsque l'on suit ses conseils , on peut marcher des journées entières sans rencontrer un occidental et croiser des etbnies aux champs qui souvent après quelques discussions vous inviteront chez elles, pour boire le thé ou l'alccol de maîs.
Pour ce faire il faut un bon guide pour les traductions et une bonne agence qui saura découvrir ce que vous cherchez.
Idem pour Bac Ha , Ba Be etc...je viens de passer 3 semaines en Juillet ce fut merveilleux.
Quant à Larsay je lui demande de ne pas trop mettre sur la place publique ses bons plans pour qu'ils restent des bons plans !!!!
Egoistement !!
Eric
Eric
HENON Eric
Le débat est ouvert 😏 Autour de Sapa, peut-être s'attendent-ils à voir arriver des touristes (et encore, c'est très grand, les environs de Sapa !), au nord de Can Cau, infiniment moins, et dès qu'on sort de là, pas du tout ; pour le trek que j'ai fait au nord du lac Babe -qu'on m'avait dit "interdit aux touristes", ce qui explqiue que je l'ai fait 😏, je suis même arriver haut perché chez des hmongs qui n'en avaient jamais vu un. La prochaine fois que vous venez dans le Nord, je peux vs emmener ou vs donnez des indications de treks où les locaux seront tout étonnés de vous voir arriver
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Merci du compliment !!! Si on ne donne pas d'infos, on sert à rien sur ce forum, et si on en donne, des "tristes sires" trouvent à y redire ; on ne peut pas gagner, quoi !
Pour faire "mes" trekkings, il faut du temps (par ex. le trek à Babe veut dire 1 jour pour y aller + 3 jours de trek + un jour pour rentrer, donc 5 jours juste pour le trekking), parler un peu le viet (aucun guide), avoir du souffle, accepter des couchages extrèmement rudimentaires, et avoir un sens de l'orientation exceptionnel vu que c'est un dédale de pistes. Inutile de dire que les candidats ne sont pas nombreux, ne serait-ce que parce que rares sont ceux qui ont le temps de "se perdre dans la nature" pendant des jours !!!!!
Pour faire "mes" trekkings, il faut du temps (par ex. le trek à Babe veut dire 1 jour pour y aller + 3 jours de trek + un jour pour rentrer, donc 5 jours juste pour le trekking), parler un peu le viet (aucun guide), avoir du souffle, accepter des couchages extrèmement rudimentaires, et avoir un sens de l'orientation exceptionnel vu que c'est un dédale de pistes. Inutile de dire que les candidats ne sont pas nombreux, ne serait-ce que parce que rares sont ceux qui ont le temps de "se perdre dans la nature" pendant des jours !!!!!
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
il est vrai que moi aussi je prefere que les endroits intacts restent intacts,
et que les touristes lambda visitent SaPa et les autres parcs d'attraction qui sont adaptes a eux.
Par ailleurs aller dans la montagne necessite du temps et une certaine connaissance de la culture Viet, comme le dit Larsay..
Alors amis touristes cantonez vous a SaPa, la baie d'Along, Tam Coc, Hanoi, HCMville, NhaTrang, PhanThiem, DaLat, CanTho, PhuQuoc, vous aurez deja une bonne vue du VN.
bon voyage a tous
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pour le trek que j'ai fait au nord du lac Babe -qu'on m'avait dit "interdit aux touristes", ce qui explqiue que je l'ai fait 😏, je suis même arriver haut perché chez des hmongs qui n'en avaient jamais vu un.
Pour faire "mes" trekkings, il faut du temps
Ah vous me faites bien rire Larsay, quel rigolo de kermesse.
Pour faire "mes" trekkings, il faut du temps
Ah vous me faites bien rire Larsay, quel rigolo de kermesse.
décidément, les forumistes du forum vietnam sont de tristes sires...
gimouille et moi on a demontre qu'on n'est pas des tristes sires et qu'on est meme des joyeux lurons. s'il te plait revenons a nos moutons et continuons de debattre sur la vraie question : les us et les coutumes VN
gimouille et moi on a demontre qu'on n'est pas des tristes sires et qu'on est meme des joyeux lurons. s'il te plait revenons a nos moutons et continuons de debattre sur la vraie question : les us et les coutumes VN
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Le sujet du post est :
Us et coutumes au Vietnam
Je ne pense pas qu'on ait mis "POLEMIQUE" sur les us et coutumes au Vietnam.
On y a déjà appris beaucoup de choses intéressantes pour le demandeur : laissez ceux qui savent continuer à alimenter la connaissance - merci -
Kimtwo
Us et coutumes au Vietnam
Je ne pense pas qu'on ait mis "POLEMIQUE" sur les us et coutumes au Vietnam.
On y a déjà appris beaucoup de choses intéressantes pour le demandeur : laissez ceux qui savent continuer à alimenter la connaissance - merci -
Kimtwo
Le vent et les turbulences sont l'oeuvre de Dieu, mais la voile et le gouvernail nous appartiennent..
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Voyager c'est aller de soi à soi, en passant par les autres (proverbe touareg)
Vous êtes la première pour la polémique quand ca vous chante, quelle mémoire sélective😊... De plus la polémique est une des bases de la démocratie dans une société comme sur un forum; seriez vous pour la pensée unique? Cela ne m'étonnerait guère...
Quand a '' alimenter la connaissance '', si c'est toujours avec les mêmes poncifs bourgeois et superficiels...
Quand a '' alimenter la connaissance '', si c'est toujours avec les mêmes poncifs bourgeois et superficiels...
ca y est, ca commence a tirer a boulets rouges..
les amis je vous en prie un peu de diplomatie, merci, la diplomatie, le sourire font partie des us et coutumes vietnamiens mais pas la patience dans les files d'attente ou ils aiment te doubler avec le sourire
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Règles de bienséance ou savoir-vivre Les Vietnamiens portent beaucoup d'importance à la politesse, c'est une chose qu'on regarde le plus chez une personne. Restez discret et courtois dans vos discussions. Ne vous énervez pas et n'essayer pas d'accabler votre interlocuteur, cela est très mal vu, même si vous avez raison. Montrez du doigt n'importe qui est considéré comme impoli et porter atteinte à la dignité d'un ancêtre ne vous sera jamais pardonné. Evitez de couper la parole à vos interlocuteurs et n'essayer jamais de l'écraser, de lui faire perdre la face ou encore de l'humilier en public. Tout contact physique en rue avec le sexe opposé est à proscrire . Pour dire bonjour, on serre tout simplement la main et pas de bises. Par exemple : un couple ne se donne pas la main en public dans la rue et ne s'embrasse pas non plus. la tenue vestimentaire est une marque de politesse, il faut se vêtir de manière à respecter l'autre. Même si la mode occidentale commence petit à petit à s'importer, les vêtements "ouverts" de type décolleté ou "épaules découvertes" sont déconseillés. Les shorts dans les pagodes également, ceux-ci sont considérés comme des endroits sacrés. Pas de nudisme sur les plages évidemment... Respectez les personnes âgées Attention, n'abordez jamais les sujets délicats comme la politique, plus particulièrement le communisme. Surtout si des policiers sont à coté...Evitez aussi les sujets sensibles comme le sida, la drogue, la prostitution. Au Nouvel an (Tet), n'entrez pas dans une maison après minuit ! Le premier qui rentre dans une maison le jour du Tet est censé apporter de la chance pour l'année qui vient. Vous pourriez faire exactement le contraire! Vous êtes un étranger. Logiquement, c'est à vous de vous adapter et pas les autres qui doivent s'adapter à vous. Mais bon, si vous ne respectez pas tout ça, on ne vous en voudra pas car... vous êtes un étranger !
Avant de monter sur le dos du tigre, il faut savoir comment en descendre
Bonjour,
Soyez remercié ici pour la clarté, la bonne documentation de l'exposé que vous en avez fait.
Tout y est...et il est bien certain que cela ne peut qu'aider tous les amateurs et amoureux du Vietnam et de ses habitants.
Bonne journée - cordialement - Kimtwo
Soyez remercié ici pour la clarté, la bonne documentation de l'exposé que vous en avez fait.
Tout y est...et il est bien certain que cela ne peut qu'aider tous les amateurs et amoureux du Vietnam et de ses habitants.
Bonne journée - cordialement - Kimtwo
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Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
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Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!