Mais moi aussi je préfère la petite épicerie et le boucher du quartier, ce n'est pas par hasard que je vis en médina ...
Et tout ce qui est frais y est acheté : viande, volailles comme fruits et légumes sur les marchés.
Mais tu parlais du coût de Marjane par rapport aux super marchés français ...
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
Mais les produits marocains ne sont pas plus chers que chez les petits détaillants
Les fruits et légumes, si...Et de plus ils sont vraiment de piètre qualité!
Quant à l'épicerie et autres produits marocains ils sont moins chers chez Assouak Assalam, supermarché marocain.
Bonjour,
J ai juste a vous dire que le cout de vie au maroc est à la portée de tous, juste comme il a été evoqué dans quelques messges, il faut éviter les lieux et les magasins déstinés u tourisme! vous voulez y vivre comme nous les marocains, il va falloir faire ses courses dans les souks, les petites boutiques, et franchement vous y perderz rien, au contraire, c là justement ou vous trouverz les marchandises frais(viande; légumes, fruits) et des bon prix , bien sur!
a marjane par exemple, les fruits, legumes et viande (celle ci fixée par l'etat) sont au meme prix qu'au souk, plein de marocains achetent ces fruits et legumes a marjane ou dans les superettes que l'on trouve partout meme dans des quartiers periferiques ou AUCUN europeen ne vit
souk:
trouver deja une place pour se garer surtout le week end
parking a 2DH
gosses qui proposent sans arret des sacs en plastique payants biensur et pas moin cher qu'ailleurs
jeunes avec charettes qui harcellent pour transporter les courses moyenant retribution biensur
prix pas affichés, a la tete du client
week end plein de monde, faut jouer des coudes
en plein cagnard comme aujourdhui ou il fait 32 deugrés il faut etre tres courageux pour avoir envie de faire ses courses au souk
les marocains (meme pauvres) ne vont PAS TOUS au souk
MARJANE
climatisé
parking gratuit
caddies en abondance
prix affichés ainsi que la region de production
sacs plastiques gratuits (il ne tient qu'aux gens de ne pas les prendre pour
l'environement)
fluide
personne qui vous reclame quoi que ce soit de la voiture au retour a la voiture
pour aboudrar le montagnard (c'est ce que veut dire son pseudo)
le monsieur a qui j'ai repondu est celibataire et cherche a s'amuser, on ne va pas lui proposer la laiterie de da mouh pour faire la java ni d'acheter au souk de tikiouine le jeudi ses legumes, il a 23 000 dirhams par mois donc il va pas se priver, il faut montrer que dans notre pays il y en a pour toutes les bourses, on es pas des miserables, on sait vivre !!!
pour info, les marocains aiment la bouffe occidentale comme hamburgers, pizza, vienoiseries, baguettes de pain, poulets rotis et les snack qui ne proposent que de la bouffe occidentale (rares sont ceux qui ne font que des tajines) etc. dans des villes comme rabat ou casa et autres ou pourtant il n'y a pas de tourisme, le tajine et le couscous c'et une fois par semaine dans les villes, mais je ne citerais pas les habitudes culinaires marocaines car ce serait trop long et aussi devierait du sujet initial de ce post.
non je suis actionnaire nule part 🙂 mais jaime bien marjane deja pour les trucs a 10 dh a gauche quand tu entre y a de bonnes affaires et puis l'electro menager, bref c'est bien achalandé, labelvie les produits carrefour sont de plus en plus rares n'est sauvé que par l'alcool au sous sol, aswak salam c'est plouc, n'ont que de la bonne patisserie, metro c'est glacé on se croirait dans un hangar, faire attention aux chariots elevateurs qui circulent en plein rayons sans parler des controles a la sortie ou les agents reluquent une heure le chariot avant de tamponer la facture, heureusement que labelvie les a racheter, ils vont reprendre leurs magasins d'ici 2 ans.
pour la viande je l'achete aux marchés de la ville nouvelle (bon poissons aussi) ou du talborjt, on oublie d'en parler ceux la comme s'il n'y avait que marjane et le souk.
depuis samedi dernier chergui, mais aujourdhui surprise les temperatures sont revenues a la normale saisoniere, veste le matin puisqu'il fait 9 comme ca
plusieurs jours de suite a 32 avant mieux aujourd'hui pour dormir la nuit on est en caravane en attendant de rentrer dans la maison avec 2 bouledogue français c'etait clim les autres jours et habituer a 3000m dur dur la laisse ici !!!
La langue française, entre autres, est dotée d'un artifice qui se nomme la ponctuation, et dont l'utilité première est de donner une respiration à la lecture...Celle-ci peut également être un outil de sens...Cela nous aidera à la compréhension de ta prose...
C'est pas une question d'"européen"", c'est une question de comportement. et surtout de style d'achats, des souvenirs à touristes seront toujours des siuvenirs à touristes.
Du pain sera au prix du pain pour tout le monde dans une boulangerie basique.
oui le pain ok mais dans les souks les prix sont plus cher pour les europeens , comme le prix n'est pas indiquer
quand a parler de marjanne je vais juste pour l'eau et le coca car bc plus cher qu'en france d'ailleurs en france je cherche les magasins discount ayant une faible retraite !!!!
desolee mais ce n'est pas vrai du tout!!! et je rejoins l'avis de Claude raoulx... tout est question de comportement...! j'achete au souk au même prix qu'un marocain... que ce soit au souk central, dans un souk de petit bled et quand je vais dans les souk des meskine comme le dit si bien un ami marocain 😄alors la c'est moi qui donne en plus.....!!! et pas besoin d'aller a marjane pour acheter le coca ou l'eau... la superette en dessous de chez moi me suffit amplement... vu qu'il doit y avoir meme pas 50 cents de dihram bsur de difference... et en plein centre ville d'agadir...
Commencez par changer en vous ce que vous voulez changer autour de vous....
GANDHI
j'aimerai savoir quel comportement prendre car quand mon époux a voulu acheter une paire de sandale tres ordinaire on nous a dit 290 dhs et quand notre ami marocain est venu lui les a eu
pour 70dhs on achete rien de touristique , on nous as dit se meubler au maroc pas cher du tout
pas la peine d'emmener des meubles on a été voir les prix au souk tres cher aussi oui le pain ou
parfois on paye plus du prix ça dépends de la personne qui sert le petit jeune a tj le reste de monnaie la viande en boucherie ok , meme au poisson le prix a la tete du client
meme notre ami nous dit quand il veut acheter au souk ne restez pas aupres de nous sinon ça va
etre plus chere ils pensent que c'est pour vous !!!
quand a Marjane obliger d'y aller pour se ravitailler en croquettes pour chien donc on prend la boisson en meme temps !!!
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Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.