J'aimerai savoir avec quelle somme nous devons partir pour aller au maroc sans compter les frais aller retour par pers en camions et loins des grandes villes ! merci d avance😉 jojonana😄😄😄
Coût de la vie au Maroc?
by Jojonana
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Bonjour a toutes et à tous !
J'aimerai savoir avec quelle somme nous devons partir pour aller au maroc sans compter les frais aller retour par pers en camions et loins des grandes villes ! merci d avance😉 jojonana😄😄😄
J'aimerai savoir avec quelle somme nous devons partir pour aller au maroc sans compter les frais aller retour par pers en camions et loins des grandes villes ! merci d avance😉 jojonana😄😄😄
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johanna la baroudeuse bien amicalement !
je pense qu'il faut mettre 10 dh pour le petit dej, 40 dh pour le dejeuner et 30 dh pour le diner 40dh pour l'hebergement ça fait 120 dh cela fera 10 euro par jour par personne ! à condition que vous evitiez les terrasses touristiques, achetez les fruits et l'eau minerale à chaque fois pour 2 à 3 jours.
Délaisse les grandes routes, prends les sentiers. Pythagore
15 euros par jour
Bonjour a toutes et à tous !
J'aimerai savoir avec quelle somme nous devons partir pour aller au maroc sans compter les frais aller retour par pers en camions et loins des grandes villes ! merci d avance😉 jojonana😄😄😄
vous pouvez sur vivre au Maroc avec 1 euro par jour, alors ne demande pas plus
J'aimerai savoir avec quelle somme nous devons partir pour aller au maroc sans compter les frais aller retour par pers en camions et loins des grandes villes ! merci d avance😉 jojonana😄😄😄
vous pouvez sur vivre au Maroc avec 1 euro par jour, alors ne demande pas plus
Bonjour, voila une ébauche de réponse concernant le coût de la vie au Maroc.
La monnaie nationale est le dirhams marocain, tel que 100 dirhams marocains = 9, 05 euros.
Au Maroc, vous pouvez considérer qu'à niveau de vie égal, vous dépenserez 20% de moins qu'en France. Il y a toutefois plusieurs postes de dépenses à surveiller :les transports, si vous achetez une voiture hors du Maroc, car c'est particulièrement couteux à cause des taxes douanières.le prix des aliments importés (en particuliers le fromage...)les prix dans les villes très touristiques et en haute saison : Ajouter 25% aux prix cités ci-dessous 1 appartement de 50m2 dans une bon quartier de Casablanca (Sidi Maarouf) : 255 euros/mois après négociation 1 appartement de haut standing de 70 m2 à Marrakech : 500 euros/mois 1 nuit dans 1 hôtel pour backpackers : 8-10 euros 1 nuit dans un hôtel moyen de gamme : 30 euros Location de voiture (Logan) : 350 euros/mois 1 repas dans un restaurant local : de 5 euros à 9 euros 1 repas dans un restaurant moyen de gamme : 10 euros à 18 euros 1 repas dans un très bon restaurant : 20 euros et plus... Un trajet dans un "petit taxi" de 20 minutes : 3 euros 1 kilo de tomates : 0, 90 euros 1 kilo de carottes : 0, 6 euros 1 kilo de pommes de terre : 0, 65 euros 1 kilo de pommes : 2, 20 euros 1 kilo de poire : 1, 20 euros 1 kilo de filet de boeuf : 12 euros 1 kilo de mouton : 7 euros 1 kilo de volaille : 4, 5 euros 1 litre de lait : 0, 80 euros 1 place de cinéma : 2-3 euros
De très bonnes infos sur le site de l'ambassade marocaine : http://www.ambafrance-ma.org/maroc/medias/Livret_de_Bienvenue.pdf
La monnaie nationale est le dirhams marocain, tel que 100 dirhams marocains = 9, 05 euros.
Au Maroc, vous pouvez considérer qu'à niveau de vie égal, vous dépenserez 20% de moins qu'en France. Il y a toutefois plusieurs postes de dépenses à surveiller :les transports, si vous achetez une voiture hors du Maroc, car c'est particulièrement couteux à cause des taxes douanières.le prix des aliments importés (en particuliers le fromage...)les prix dans les villes très touristiques et en haute saison : Ajouter 25% aux prix cités ci-dessous 1 appartement de 50m2 dans une bon quartier de Casablanca (Sidi Maarouf) : 255 euros/mois après négociation 1 appartement de haut standing de 70 m2 à Marrakech : 500 euros/mois 1 nuit dans 1 hôtel pour backpackers : 8-10 euros 1 nuit dans un hôtel moyen de gamme : 30 euros Location de voiture (Logan) : 350 euros/mois 1 repas dans un restaurant local : de 5 euros à 9 euros 1 repas dans un restaurant moyen de gamme : 10 euros à 18 euros 1 repas dans un très bon restaurant : 20 euros et plus... Un trajet dans un "petit taxi" de 20 minutes : 3 euros 1 kilo de tomates : 0, 90 euros 1 kilo de carottes : 0, 6 euros 1 kilo de pommes de terre : 0, 65 euros 1 kilo de pommes : 2, 20 euros 1 kilo de poire : 1, 20 euros 1 kilo de filet de boeuf : 12 euros 1 kilo de mouton : 7 euros 1 kilo de volaille : 4, 5 euros 1 litre de lait : 0, 80 euros 1 place de cinéma : 2-3 euros
De très bonnes infos sur le site de l'ambassade marocaine : http://www.ambafrance-ma.org/maroc/medias/Livret_de_Bienvenue.pdf
Skier en Bulgarie
Le coût de la vie partout dans le monde
Vie nocturne à Quito
Bonjour,
Combien de temps as tu vécu au Maroc ??? Beaucoup de postes de dépenses (santé, électricité, etc ..), parmi les plus couteux, sont totalement ignorés ! C'est peut etre cela qui te permet de faire une économie de 20%, parfaitement illusoire, que ce soit à Casa ou à Marrakech.
* **Location de voiture (Logan) : 350 euros/mois *** erreur de frappe ??
Combien de temps as tu vécu au Maroc ??? Beaucoup de postes de dépenses (santé, électricité, etc ..), parmi les plus couteux, sont totalement ignorés ! C'est peut etre cela qui te permet de faire une économie de 20%, parfaitement illusoire, que ce soit à Casa ou à Marrakech.
* **Location de voiture (Logan) : 350 euros/mois *** erreur de frappe ??
Bonjour,
Je ne sais pas ou vous avez trouvé le prix des fruits et légumes, mais ils sont tout à fait faux. Hier les tomates étaient à 2dhr50 le kg notamment Le poulet a 16dh le kg Manger ne coute vraiment pas beaucoup au Maroc.
mes dépenses fixes par mois à Agadir appartement neuf non meuble de 70m2 1700dh/mois electricité pour 100dh/mois en moyenne eau pour 80dh/mois en moyenne connection internet 200dh/mois via opérateur wana abonnement portable 300dh/mois voiture de location 5000dh/mois
cordialement chantal
Je ne sais pas ou vous avez trouvé le prix des fruits et légumes, mais ils sont tout à fait faux. Hier les tomates étaient à 2dhr50 le kg notamment Le poulet a 16dh le kg Manger ne coute vraiment pas beaucoup au Maroc.
mes dépenses fixes par mois à Agadir appartement neuf non meuble de 70m2 1700dh/mois electricité pour 100dh/mois en moyenne eau pour 80dh/mois en moyenne connection internet 200dh/mois via opérateur wana abonnement portable 300dh/mois voiture de location 5000dh/mois
cordialement chantal
bonjour, j'aimerai beaucoup que vous me donnez des renseignements sur la ville de casa, sur tout les domaines c'est à dire le loyer, la nourritures, le coût des vêtement je dois m'y m'installer d'ici deux mois pour le travail et pour une durée de 2 ans et franchement j'y connais personne dans cette grande ville
bonjour, j'aimerai beaucoup que vous me donnez des renseignements sur la ville de casa, sur tout les domaines c'est à dire le loyer, la nourritures, le coût des vêtement je dois m'y m'installer d'ici deux mois pour le travail et pour une durée de 2 ans et franchement j'y connais personne dans cette grande ville
Bonjour,
je n'ai pas essayé de faire quelque chose de scientifique, il s'agissait juste de donner aux gens quelques repères. Bien sur le cout de la vie dépend aussi de ce que l'on vient faire au Maroc (tourisme ou expatriation), si l'on vient seul ou avec sa famille, si on vit local ou pas...
certains produits, notamment les charges d'une maison, sont chers au Maroc, mais on ne peut pas nier que si l'on compare par rapport à Paris (je suis Parisien donc j'imagine que la vie est moins cher en Province), on a une qualité de vie bien meilleure avec la même somme d'argent.
J'espère en tout cas avoir posé des bases, et que d'autres commenteront/détailleront en fonction de leur propre expérience.
Cordialement,
HM
je n'ai pas essayé de faire quelque chose de scientifique, il s'agissait juste de donner aux gens quelques repères. Bien sur le cout de la vie dépend aussi de ce que l'on vient faire au Maroc (tourisme ou expatriation), si l'on vient seul ou avec sa famille, si on vit local ou pas...
certains produits, notamment les charges d'une maison, sont chers au Maroc, mais on ne peut pas nier que si l'on compare par rapport à Paris (je suis Parisien donc j'imagine que la vie est moins cher en Province), on a une qualité de vie bien meilleure avec la même somme d'argent.
J'espère en tout cas avoir posé des bases, et que d'autres commenteront/détailleront en fonction de leur propre expérience.
Cordialement,
HM
Skier en Bulgarie
Le coût de la vie partout dans le monde
Vie nocturne à Quito
bonsoir,
désolée, je ne peux pas vous renseigner pour Casa
cordialement
Chantal
désolée, je ne peux pas vous renseigner pour Casa
cordialement
Chantal
bonsoir,
d'après toi il faut plus que 100euros soit +- 1100dhrs pour 2 par semaine pour se nourrir?
chantal
d'après toi il faut plus que 100euros soit +- 1100dhrs pour 2 par semaine pour se nourrir?
chantal
on parlai du cout de la vie au Maroc et non pas de vacances, ni de visites touristiques
Bonsoir .
La vie (a part le logement)n est pas chere a Casa .Les prix sont moins chere qu a Saly et plus chere qu a M'bour .
Y a beaucoup de Senegalais installes a casa .Dans un quartier entre le port et Bab Marrakech .Bon sejour a casa .
La revolution ?quelle revolution?
tu peux nous dire où tu loues une logan au mois a 350euros?
Jojonana, il y a longtemps qu'il est retourné d'ou il venait, la question il l'a posée en mars 2006. Et quand bien même, ses vacances, il les voulait loin des grandes villes et allait dormir dans son camion.
Donc je pense que nous sommes d'accord pour dire que la vie courrante au Maroc coute nettement moins chere qu'en Europe.
Cordialement
Chantal
Le cout de la vie à Tiznit est la même qu'à Agadir voir moins chère peut être.
Hier, dans un café d'Aglou plage, nous avons payé 16dh pour un expresso et un soda.
cordialement Chantal
cordialement Chantal
Bonjour,
mon logement était payé donc je n'ai pas parlé des charges de mon appart vu que je les ignore completement!
pour la logan, il faut contacter l'agence Carsalis qui fait des locations longue durée à 4000 dirhams
Bien à toi,
HM
mon logement était payé donc je n'ai pas parlé des charges de mon appart vu que je les ignore completement!
pour la logan, il faut contacter l'agence Carsalis qui fait des locations longue durée à 4000 dirhams
Bien à toi,
HM
Skier en Bulgarie
Le coût de la vie partout dans le monde
Vie nocturne à Quito
Pour ma part le moins cher que j'ai trouvé pour une location d'une logan est est 220 Dh jours km illimités et TTC dont le siège est à Agadir
cordialement
Jc
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
merci et tres bonne journee
bonjour
En allant sur des endroits populaires et si tu economise peu tu peux vivre avec les environs de 7 euro par jour non compris les depenses des hotels
cordialement
En allant sur des endroits populaires et si tu economise peu tu peux vivre avec les environs de 7 euro par jour non compris les depenses des hotels
cordialement
salut
pour repondre a ta question relative aux conditions d vie a casa, j dirai que pour la nourriture, les vetements.. il n ya aucun probleme a casa, bien sur tant que t evites les lieux tres chic!en ce qui concerne l loyer, là je dirai q effectivement il y a petit probleme, dans la mesure ou c est pas facile de trouver un loyer a bon prix, n empeche que tu en trouveras surement, il faut juste prendre le temps necessaire. tout depend d la nature du loyer tu cherches,
bereber soy:
De mon côté, j'ai trouvé également à Agadir, une logan en LLD à 200dh par jour
Cordialement
Chantal
content pour vous, vous devriez mettre l'adresse sur le forum.
ça peut interesser des personnes du Forum.
Cordialement
Jc
Jcaud
Un voyage de mille lieues a commencé par un pas ( Proverbe Chinois )
ah superbe, merci pour ton aide je cherche un appart avec 3chambres au maximun, avec salon cuisine, et toilette entre 2000dh/ mois ou 2500 dh/mois et aussi peut tu me renseigner sur le prix des meubles si c'est cher ou pas ( lit, tele, armoir, meuble de salon, table à manger, ... etc) c'est gentil de ta part
bjr chantal
j aimerai avoir des renseignements sur la vir ( le cout notament) sur les environs agadir, pas agadir. Cela fait longtemps que je ne suis pas venue au maroc. J envisage devenir m y implanter en fin d 'annee et creer une maison d hote vers le sud. Peux tu me donner des infos.Merci cordialement claudine
je vous informe de ma nouvelle adresse mail claudinelair@yahoo.fr
Bonjour votre message est ancien mais m'interresse...
j'aimerai venir m'installer au Maroc et plus précisément Agadir.
Mon budget maxi mensuel est de 2100e/mois, je n 'ai rien d'autre!
qu'en pensez vous? mon mail direct : pb12081@gmail.com
a vous lire merci
Mon budget maxi mensuel est de 2100e/mois, je n 'ai rien d'autre!
qu'en pensez vous? mon mail direct : pb12081@gmail.com
a vous lire merci
Au plaisir de nouvelles connaissances...
tu vivras seul sans aucun probleme avec cette somme au maroc
ok disons que ma questio n'etait pas compléte...
seul mais pas ermite non plus
je veux dire avec ce budget
y'a moyen d'avair une vie sociale comprenant sorties ...etc
ensuite pour la vie de tous les jours, je connais un peu et ca ne m'effraie pas j'aime la vie auprés des gens manger dans les souks
ensuite pour la vie de tous les jours, je connais un peu et ca ne m'effraie pas j'aime la vie auprés des gens manger dans les souks
Au plaisir de nouvelles connaissances...
Bonjour,
Tu n'es pas retraité...
Tu ne travailles pas ??
Il me parait difficile, dans ces conditions d'avoir une carte de résident !!!
pour obtenir une carte de resident, il faudra alors pouvoir faire des virements reguliers.
pour le logement prevoit autour 500euros
par contre, tu as une protection maladie? tu comptes cotiser pour ta retraite?
pour le logement prevoit autour 500euros
par contre, tu as une protection maladie? tu comptes cotiser pour ta retraite?
il lui suffit d'avoir 200 dh par jour sur son compte convertible 😛
je connait des jeunes qui glandent et ont la carte de sejour et un compte a la bmce ou bmci, l'essentiel est d'avoir des ronds dessus
je connait des jeunes qui glandent et ont la carte de sejour et un compte a la bmce ou bmci, l'essentiel est d'avoir des ronds dessus
bonjour
pour 2100 euros (23 000 DH) tu as la vie de pacha:
quelques exemples pour quelqun de celibataire a agadir:
location d'un appart F3 meublé a la marina avec vue mer 1000 euros
location d'une villa a charaf meublée 600 euros
bons restos avec bouteille de bordeaux , poisson ou viande, entree dessert et kawa 50 euros
boites de nuit avec bouteille d'absolut ou de ballantines qu'on peut terminer une autre soirée 100 euros
loc de voiture au mois genre picanto ou logan 400 euros, ajouter 100 euros pour l'essence quand on circule beaucoup
un tour a marjane pour le plein de bitoux et de charcuteries et d'autres produits courants une fois par semaine 100 euros en etant large
pour 2100 euros (23 000 DH) tu as la vie de pacha:
quelques exemples pour quelqun de celibataire a agadir:
location d'un appart F3 meublé a la marina avec vue mer 1000 euros
location d'une villa a charaf meublée 600 euros
bons restos avec bouteille de bordeaux , poisson ou viande, entree dessert et kawa 50 euros
boites de nuit avec bouteille d'absolut ou de ballantines qu'on peut terminer une autre soirée 100 euros
loc de voiture au mois genre picanto ou logan 400 euros, ajouter 100 euros pour l'essence quand on circule beaucoup
un tour a marjane pour le plein de bitoux et de charcuteries et d'autres produits courants une fois par semaine 100 euros en etant large
bonjour
pour 2100 euros (23 000 DH) tu as la vie de pacha:
quelques exemples pour quelqun de celibataire a agadir:
location d'un appart F3 meublé a la marina avec vue mer 1000 euros
location d'une villa a charaf meublée 600 euros
bons restos avec bouteille de bordeaux , poisson ou viande, entree dessert et kawa 50 euros
boites de nuit avec bouteille d'absolut ou de ballantines qu'on peut terminer une autre soirée 100 euros
loc de voiture au mois genre picanto ou logan 400 euros, ajouter 100 euros pour l'essence quand on circule beaucoup
un tour a marjane pour le plein de bitoux et de charcuteries et d'autres produits courants une fois par semaine 100 euros en etant large
ce que tu decris j'ai bien peur que cela coute plus que son budget
sans oublier qu'il y a encore d'autres frais: assurance medicale, internet, telephone, france...
pour 2100 euros (23 000 DH) tu as la vie de pacha:
quelques exemples pour quelqun de celibataire a agadir:
location d'un appart F3 meublé a la marina avec vue mer 1000 euros
location d'une villa a charaf meublée 600 euros
bons restos avec bouteille de bordeaux , poisson ou viande, entree dessert et kawa 50 euros
boites de nuit avec bouteille d'absolut ou de ballantines qu'on peut terminer une autre soirée 100 euros
loc de voiture au mois genre picanto ou logan 400 euros, ajouter 100 euros pour l'essence quand on circule beaucoup
un tour a marjane pour le plein de bitoux et de charcuteries et d'autres produits courants une fois par semaine 100 euros en etant large
ce que tu decris j'ai bien peur que cela coute plus que son budget
sans oublier qu'il y a encore d'autres frais: assurance medicale, internet, telephone, france...
un an a la cfe (secu des expats francais)
http://www.cfe.fr/pages/assurances/particuliers/sans-activite/maladie-maternite/cotisations.php
tout depend des revenus, mais des mutuelles locales a 40 euros par mois (parfois moin) et plafond jusqua 90 000 euros existent
connection 3G 18 euros par mois
telephone courant (portable) 42 euros
1 mois canal sat carte officielle 16 euros
eau et electricité 50 euros a moin d'avoir un cumulus 🤪
fruits legumes ariel huile pain cornes de gazelles thé vert ou café par semaine 100 euros
billet pour la france avec compagnie low cost chaque 3 mois 200 euros donc moyenne de 70 euros par mois
😎😇
http://www.cfe.fr/pages/assurances/particuliers/sans-activite/maladie-maternite/cotisations.php
tout depend des revenus, mais des mutuelles locales a 40 euros par mois (parfois moin) et plafond jusqua 90 000 euros existent
connection 3G 18 euros par mois
telephone courant (portable) 42 euros
1 mois canal sat carte officielle 16 euros
eau et electricité 50 euros a moin d'avoir un cumulus 🤪
fruits legumes ariel huile pain cornes de gazelles thé vert ou café par semaine 100 euros
billet pour la france avec compagnie low cost chaque 3 mois 200 euros donc moyenne de 70 euros par mois
😎😇
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That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Hi
I’d like to know if the road between Msemrir and Tamttatouchte is doable with a standard car (Dacia Logan).
Thanks a lot
hi,
I’m looking for a country to visit for 10 days in February.
What do you recommend for a trip with some sunshine, hiking, and sightseeing?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
Hi there,
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.






