bonjour ma mere et au maroc pour une semaine et je lui et demander de me ramener une tortue car il parrait possible il y en a sur les marcher vrais ou pas 🙂 merci a+
Salut a toi, il se rouve ke je suis actuellement au maroc, de retour de mon voyage en solitaire a travers le pays.
3500km parcourus, 36h de bateau, 46h de bus, 11h de taxi au minimum et 200km de marche dans l'atlas et le desert.
de tanger a marrakech, en passant par rabat, de marrakech a mahmid par ouarzazate.la ville la plus attachante est sans doute marrakech, un bon hotel a marrakeck : la gazelle, rue bani marine, demander une chambre au 2eme, une bonne adresse a zagora : hotel la rose des sables, mais attention !! ne pas suivre les faux guides, il y en a tout les 10m et a chaque coin de rue ils attendent le visage pale !! arnaques garantie !
pour le deser, choisir une agence sur l'avenue mohammed5 a zagora, attention c pas facile !! pour en revenir a marrakech, ne pas oublier de manger le soir sur la place jena el fnaa, ok ca fait cliché touriste mais c sympa, bref marrakech s'apprivoise vite, c une ville de rencontres innatendues.
entre ouarzazate et zagora, ne pas louper tamnougalt, un hotel sympa avec une piscine enormissime, eviter la periode des dates, les petites mouches blanches sont virulentes et piquent !!
mail moi pr plus de detail, je reviens en france le 20
Deux spécialistes du Maroc sur une même discussion ...
Je souhaite partir au Maroc en juin prochain en train par Interail. Est-ce facilement envisageable ?
12 jours, est-ce suffisant pour déjà avoir un bon aperçu du pays ?
Est-il possible de descendre vers le Sahara occidental sans risque politique ?
Une question encore :
L'achat de la carte d'étudiant internationale (ISIC) est-elle vraiment interessante pour la visite des musées et autres monuments ?
Merci de vos réponses.
En ce qui concerne le transport au Maroc, le train, à mon humble avis, n'est pas la meilleure solution.La meilleure bien sur est d'etre motorisé, plus d'autonomie et donc de liberté. Toutefois le voyage a la routarde est enrichissant, ainsi j'ai choisi le bus et le taxi pour la majorité de mes deplacements. Le train, trop lent et trop cher (comparré au bus) les horaires quoi qu'il en soit sont rarement respectés, en bus ou en train il est raisonnable d'ajouter 1h ou meme 2h à l'horaire indiqué.
En 12 jours tu peux facilement traverser le pays, personelement je te conseillerai d'eviter le nord, sale et sans grand interet, l'aventure commence a Marrakech, ensuite prend Ouarzazate comme base de depart pour diverses excursions dans le sud, est ouest ou grand sud, Mahmid ou Erfoud, les oasis les vallées desertes etc ne te decevront pas.
Quant aux risques, ils sont plus "commerciaux" que politiques, le continuel harcelment des commercants, faux guides et escrocs tres habiles risquent de te fatiguer, j'ai eu ma dose de "ras le cul" 🤪
A 30km de la frontiere algerienne tout va encore tres bien, choisi bien tes guides, reste si possible en contact avec d'autres voyageurs, ou partage leur route. Je te conseille 3 ou 4 jours de desert, inoubliable 😎 mais tres dur selon le rythme.
Je suis revenu à la fois enchanté et déçu, j'essaye de numeriser mes photos dont je suis assez content.Engageons la conversation a propos du Maroc, je cherche eventuellement une "fine équipe" de routard afin de completer mon parcours du pays une prochaine fois.. a bientot ?
Bonjour Dan,
Merci de tes réponses. Le voyage en train m'a toujours plu, je vais essayer de continuer, et puis 1h, 2h de retard, qu'est-ce que c'est quand on est en vacances ...
Quand on voit le nombre de km que tu as parcourus ça impressionne ! Je ne suis pas aussi endurante !
Je te remail lorsque j'ai plus d'infos sur mon départ.
Merci encore.
j'espère qu'on en saura bientôt un peu plus sur ton périple marocain et qu'on aura l'occasion de voir quelques photos.
Puisque tu cherches du monde pour ton prochain séjour la-bas, au printemps 2004 entre le 15 avril et le 15 juin j'ai 4 semaines à passer dans l'Atlas... Nous sommes déjà deux de VF, si cela te tente...
B'slama
José
« Nomade j’étais quand, toute petite, je rêvais en regardant la route, la blanche route attirante, toute droite vers l’inconnu charmeur… »
Isabelle Eberhardt
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/wihalane/
Je pense que tu parles du Fort Tafnidilt situé à 20 km de Tan-tan et à 7 km de la grande route qui va en Mauritanie. c'est une superbe auberge dans un coin non moins superbe, isolé tu ne seras pas gêné par les voisins. Le patron Guy Dubau est super sympa. Tu as le choix, dormir sous les tentes berbères ou tu peux avoir une chambre. Vas sur mon site, il y a les photos du coin. http://www.desert-aventure.com/maroc.htm
😉 super sympha ton site, je voyage moi en camping car, penses tu que je puisse faire les 7 kms de piste sans problèmes, est ce que par hasard il y a un moyen de les contacter, je vais également à fort bou jérif ils ont changé de propriétaire l'année dernière as tu rencontré les nouveaux
merci de tous tes renseignements, ça fait du bien de parler avec de vrais routards du désert, nous a cause du cc nous sommes assez limités
Merci pour le compliment, Oui je pense qu'avec un camping car tu peux aller au Fort Tafnidilt il n'y a pas de sable et en allant doucement, ça doit passer, quitte à dégonfler un peu tes pneus.
Oui je suis passé à Fort Bou Jérif au moment du changement de proprio en mai dernier, les nouveaux m'ont paru sympa...mais bon on est resté qu' une seule nuit. Le coin est joli et reposant.
Voici un autre baroudeur qui est un transfuge du Camping car vers un Land Rover 130 équipé d'une cellule camping car . Vas voir son site, c'est une option intéressante. Tu peux lui envoyer un mail de ma part ... il est sur VF, son nom est Gaetan http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gaetan.magre
Si tu veux on peux communiquer en privé à cette adresse : jmbsim@desert-aventure.com
😊 Je vien de rentrer du sud et me suis arreté a I ROCHA, une auberge, chambre d'hotes tres sympatique a50km de ouarzazate sur la route de marrakech, c'est un petit paradis!!!!
I Rocha a en effet l'air super. Le guide du Routard est très peu explicite sur la description du trajet pour y arriver. Nous y allons bientôt. As tu une description précise du trajet en venant de marakech ? Je n'ai pas envie de perdre du temps.
comme Dedeur ... je suis aussi preneur de renseignements d'accès...
J'ai une ou deux nuits à passer par là fin avril...
Merci
« Nomade j’étais quand, toute petite, je rêvais en regardant la route, la blanche route attirante, toute droite vers l’inconnu charmeur… »
Isabelle Eberhardt
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/wihalane/
en fait, pour I ROCHA, c'est trés facil...se trouve sur la route principal entre Marakech et Ouarzazate (à 50km avant Ouarzazate si tu vas dir. Mar.--Ouarz.) c'est trés bien indiqué avec plusieurs panneaux et à 300m de la route. bonne sejour!!! POETE
C'est trés facile!!! tu prend (de Marakech) la route de Ouarzazate, tu passes le col du tichkà et 50 km aprés tu veràs les panneaux sur la route, IROCCHA se trouve simplement a 300m de la route principal Mar/Ouarz. a 50km avant ouarzazate, on y passe forcement!!
« Nomade j’étais quand, toute petite, je rêvais en regardant la route, la blanche route attirante, toute droite vers l’inconnu charmeur… »
Isabelle Eberhardt
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/wihalane/
12 jours je trouve que ca fait juste... meme si c ce que je vais faire a bali... moi j ai fait trois semaines et c etait un peu court aussi. mais les gens sont tellement sympas la bas ! aprt a marrakech a mon sens mais bon, une nana c pas pareil !
evitr les lieux touristiques pour blanc, trop européens...
va dans le desert si tu connais pas et fais des vieilles villes (essaouira tres bien pour ca, meknes, fes)...
bon voyage !
"Les proverbes sont comme de petites gouttes d eau qui nonchalamment tombent quand Dieu pleure", moi.
Je vais aller au Maroc via Tanger au début mai peut-être pour m'y installer définitivement. Je désirerasi savoir si je peu passer la douane avec tous mes vêtements environ 60 70 kg. Faut-il sacquitter de taxes .........................
bonjour, tres beau site, felicitation.on m'a indique un bon coin de peche a l'embouchure de l'oued draa et pourriez vous me dire si la piste, partant de fort tafindilt et allant vers l'embouchure de l'oued draa, comporte des passages delicats genre sable mou, car j'ai moi meme, une cellule amovible sur pick up (ensemble lourd)et partant seul, je risque d'avoir chaud en cas d'enlisement.je me permet de vous faire parvenir une photo de mon engin afin de vous en faire une idee, sachant qu'a cette occasion le coffre ar sera depose, pour laisser la place a 2 jerrikans.en vous remerciant par avance, marc
j'ai reve de contrees inconnues, j'ai reve de realiser mon reve...
Salut Marc,
Merci pour le message. Je pense que la piste qui part de l'auberge " Fort Tafnidilt" vers l'embouchure de l'Oued Draa est faisable avec ton pick up équipé de la cellule. Le mieux est de faire un stop à l'auberge et de demander conseil à Guy Dubau le patron.
Bonne balade
Amicalement
Jean-Marie
merci milles fois jean marie, et pour l'anectote, nous partageons ma femme et moi, le meme point de vue.restons prudents, du fait que nous voyageons en totale autonomie.peut etre trouverons nous un camion comme le tient pour nous "tirer", mais dans le doute...bref, encore merci et tous mes souhaits de supers voyages .cordialement, marc ps:jm, connais tu jean louis dumas, bordelais egalement, qui lui aussi affectionne, avec son cam, toutes les pistes du maroc et de la mauritanie
j'ai reve de contrees inconnues, j'ai reve de realiser mon reve...
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.