J'avais prévu de partir à l'hôtel Utopia à El Quseir au mois de juin. Est-ce toujours une bonne idée de partir malgré l'attentat de jeudi? Et l'hôtel, quel est l'avis de ceux qui y ont été?
Si les touristes devaient éviter l'Espagne à chaque
bombe de l'ETA, l'Angleterre à chaque bombe de l'IRA, les USA tant que Ben
Laden est libre et même la France lors de la campagne d'attentats d'il y a
quelques années...
El Qseir n'est jamais qu'à 750 Km du caire ...
La situation en Egypte est tout ce qu'il y a de plus calme, les Egyptiens avec qui je
suis en contact m'ont dit que la population est complètement abasourdie et
catastrophée et je suppose que les Starsky et Hutch de service vont encore
plus rouler des mécaniques lors des escortes des convois.
Il n'y absolument aucune raison d'annuler, ni même de changer les
programmes.
Vous pouvez y aller en toute confiance, vous serez plus en sécurité en
Egypte qu'à la Costa del Sol.
En vous promenant à la campagne en France, vous pouvez aussi être frappé par la
foudre.
Mais en Egypte, vous aurez une forêt de paratonneres autour de vous!
Pourquoi toujours croire que l'Egypte est un pays où il y a une bombe et un terroriste à chaque coin de rue ?
Allez-y sans crainte et bon amusement . Si cela peut vous rassurer, je vais à Louxor la semaine prochaine et en rentrant, je vous dirai ce qu'il en est en pratique.
Plus facile de désintégrer une molécule qu'un préjugé, comme disait Albert....
Ce serait assez drôle de rédiger la fiche du Ministère des affaires étrangères au sujet du voyage en France ; on y mettrait en garde contre le terrorisme corse, basque, breton, contre les conflits sociaux, contre le nucléaire, recommandant les pastilles d'iode...
Je me demande un peu à qui cette histoire profite, d'ailleurs.
Un bémol à vos réponses qui, sur le fond, sont pertinentes : les attentats en France ou en Espagne touchent rarement volontairement des touristes (même en Corse) 😉
Je comprends son inquiétude mais je pense qu'effectivement, ce serait dommage annuler un voyage pour cela, surtout si loin du Caire !
J'aime beaucoup ce "touchent rarement volontairement des touristes " !
En effet, dans les attentats de Paris, les terroristes ont choisi une ligne RER où, justement, les touristes sont peu nombreux !
Sont-y pas gentils, ces terroristes ?
Et les bombes de l'ETA (ou IRA, ou FLNC, au choix ...) sont des bombes intelligentes qui éviteront de blesser ou tuer volontairement des touristes. Et les coupables pourront toujours dire qu'elles ont tué, oui, mais "accidentellement, mousieur le Juge". Cela rassurera les victimes et consolera leurs familles !
Et puis, c'est rassurant aussi de savoir qu'en Europe, on a affaire à des assassins civilisés.
Si, par malheur de nouvelles explosions devaient retentir à Paris ou ailleurs, je souhaiterais que tous les autres pays évacuent leurs ressortissants et touristes séjournant en France, comme ils l'ont fait en Egypte en 1997. Et je suppose que vos autorités nationales diront aussi "Mais non, n'ayez pas peur, les attentats en France ou en Espagne touchent rarement volontairement des touristes (même en Corse) 😉 . Et si ça été le cas, ben, c'est un accident."
Franchement, un "bémol" pareil sonne très faux !
En visant les touristes, les terroristes égyptiens voudraient que ceux-ci boycottent le pays, privant ainsi une grande partie de la population de ressources car le tourisme est, directement ou indirectement, le premier employeur national. Et, plongés dans les privations, les Egyptiens trouveront de l'aide matérielle et spirituelle auprès des islamistes intégristes qui sont très bien organisés. Le prosélytisme aidant, imaginez ce qui va se passer.
Désolé Louxor, mais tu fais des interprétations...
Ce que je voulais dire (et je suis sûr que j'étais clair), c'est que - en France, en Espagne ou en Angleterre - la plupart des actions terroristes sont avant tout politiques, elles visent donc des cibles politiques (ex en Corse : la trésorerie d'une ville) et non des cibles touristiques, comme ça a été le cas au Caire la semaine dernière.
A ma connaissance, il n'y a pas eu d'attentat au pied de la tour Eiffel ou du Sacré Coeur depuis longtemps, non ?
Cela ne veut pas dire que des touristes ne sont pas touchés, mais en tout cas ils ne vont pas en Espagne en craignant un attentat parce qu'ils savent qu'ils ne sont pas des "cibles prioritaires".
Par ailleurs, outre ce constat, cela n'a rien à voir avec le degré de civilité des terroristes, et une victime touriste n'a pas plus ou moins de poids qu'une autre...
Quant au but des terroristes egyptiens, je te remercie, je pense que j'avais un peu compris... mais ce sera logique s'ils arrivent à leurs fins. Et si tu ne comprends pas les inquiétudes des gens, c'est que ton amour de l'Egypte te fait fermer les yeux sur ce qui s'y passe...
Mon but était de dire que les bombes frappent partout, au hasard et que le fait de viser tel ou tel endroit en supposant qu'il n'y aura pas de victimes " innocentes " (Ah, tiens, il y en a des coupables ?) est une pure vision de l'esprit. Voyageant aussi pour des raisons professionnelles, il m'est arrivé trois fois de passer devant des endroits où une bombe allait exploser peu de temps après. ( A Londres, à Madrid et à Ajaccio)
La plupart des actions terroristes en Europe sont politiques ? Et les autres alors ?
Et l'endroit où la bombe du souk Khan el Kalili a explosé n'est pas plus fréquenté par les touristes que par les Egyptiens, même moins d'ailleurs. Attentat revendiqué par un groupuscule extrémiste lié à la politique interne du pays, mais dont ici on ne parlera que des victimes occidentales et pas des victimes égyptiennes. Et mon amour pour l'Egypte me fait moins fermer les yeux sur ce qui s'y passe que l'étaient fermés ceux des millions de voyageurs qui allaient se bronzer sur les plages espagnoles au temps du franquisme.
Oui... Moi je comprends ce que tu veux dire, mais les gens qui préparent un voyagent en Egypte bourrés de préjugés par avance ne sont pas prêts à entendre ça.... Après, quand tu connais les gens et les lieux, il t'en faudrait cent fois plus pour renoncer, mais là, avec en plus la propagande médiatique insupportable, les gens perdent les vrais repères.
Oui... Moi je comprends ce que tu veux dire, mais les gens qui préparent un voyagent en Egypte bourrés de préjugés par avance ne sont pas prêts à entendre ça.... Après, quand tu connais les gens et les lieux, il t'en faudrait cent fois plus pour renoncer, mais là, avec en plus la propagande médiatique insupportable, les gens perdent les vrais repères.
Pour mieux voyager, vendez la télé !
Michel
faut peut-être pas exagérer la "propagande médiatique insupportable" (je rigole !), qui en a assez peu parlé vu le reste de l'actualité...
steph79 n'a pas l'air bourré de préjugés, il se pose des questions... l'approche me paraît un peu différente !
d'ailleurs, accessoirement, il demandait aussi des infos sur son hotel
Ma remarque ne portait pas spécialement sur cet événement, et elle était d'ordre plus général.
Je ne sais à vrai dire pas en quels termes les médias TV en ont rendu compte cette fois-ci, mais je vois tous les jours comment à tous propos les gens sont lobotomisés par les médias.
J'ai une vieille télé !! je ne vais pas aller trés loin avec ce que je vais en tirer a la vente ?? donc je la garde !! et je voyage sur la chaine "voyage", j'ai aussi les informations !! ça me permet de voir combien il y a de morts en Egypte, chez les touristes !! c'est moins qu' en Irak !! ce n'est pas pour ça que j'yrai y faire un tour, c'est un pay ou il y a une dictature camouflé en démocratie !! alors allez y !! remplissez leurs banques de devises!! ils vous le rendront en couteaux ou en bombes !! ou en sourires ???
Je voudrais savoir si on accepte des couple non marié au hôtels (même chambre) en Egypte, j'ai eu plusieurs avis concernant se sujet et j'avais cru savoir que…
Je dois partir demain en croisiére en Egypte et malheureusement mon passeport a été imprimé mais pas reçu à temps à la mairie, donc je ne l'ai pas en ma…
Je pars une semaine en mars à Safaga (Egypte) avec des kiters et des plongeurs. En dehors de l'excursion à Louxor, que puis-je faire sachant que je ne suis pas…
J'aimerais suivre un circuit de voyage de 15 jours à Luxor+Caire organisé par une agence de voyage française avec mon copain qui est officiellement un…
Nous devons aller en famille en égypte mi février. Nous pensons louer un minibus. Pourriez vous me dire si la circulation entre Assouan et Abou Simbel est…
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.