En camping-car sur la RN 103 / 308 de Bragança à Lindoso (Portugal)
by Thilyon
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Je prépare un voyage au Portugal prévu septembre et octobre 2016.
J'envisage une ''arrivée'' par Brangaça, puis me rendre à Lindoso ( pour les espigueiros) par la RN 103 via Chaves puis la N308 pour rejoindre Lindoso via le parc Peneda Gerès .
En principe je calcuel mes itinéraires via M... Ma... etc ... Aucun d'eux conseille d'emprunter cet itininéraire.
L'un de vous a t il déjà pris cette route ?
Les espigueiros sont ils une curiosité de Lindoso?
Plus tard j'envisage une mini croisière (1/2 journée) sur le Douro entre Peso da Régua et Pinhao. Cela en vaut il la ''peine'' dans la mesure où nous aurons fait route depuis Porto le long du Douro.
Aussi, à Porto j'ai vu qu'il existait un circuit en bateau dit des Six Ponts. Est ce à faire ?
Merci à tous pour et bonne année 2016.
Bonsoir,
ravi de trouver quelqu'un qui s'intéresse aux espigueiros !
Il y en a un peu partout dans ce coin du parc Peneda Geres. Les plus connus sont ceux de Soajo village à visiter le jour du marché, en évitant de passer la nuit précédente sur... ... la place du marché ! Mais en fouinant dans les petits villages on en trouve aussi, plus discrets, charmants, autour de belles vieilles maisons... Côté espagnol aussi. Ci-dessous un petit échantillon pris au printemps 2013.



ravi de trouver quelqu'un qui s'intéresse aux espigueiros !
Il y en a un peu partout dans ce coin du parc Peneda Geres. Les plus connus sont ceux de Soajo village à visiter le jour du marché, en évitant de passer la nuit précédente sur... ... la place du marché ! Mais en fouinant dans les petits villages on en trouve aussi, plus discrets, charmants, autour de belles vieilles maisons... Côté espagnol aussi. Ci-dessous un petit échantillon pris au printemps 2013.




Merci de ta réponse.
C'est vrai que je n'ai pas trouvé grand chose sur VF à propos des espigueiros.
Ceux de Lindoso ont l'avantage, de se trouver dans un village ( pour nous c'est un petit détour entre Bragança et Braga) où il y a un parking Cc permettant d'y passer la nuit. Cependant, Soajo n'est pas éloigné de Lindoso, nous y ferons donc une visite .
Pour les petites routes d'accès: pas trop compliquées?
Bonjour Thierry,
Comme déjà répondu, les espigueiros se trouvent assez facilement autour do Geres, mais Soajo est effectivement la référence.
Si vous avez déjà fait la route depuis Porto, pas sûre que la croisière soit réellement intéressante, même si cela reste une "vue" différente sur les vignes en terrasses... Normalement il y en a des plus courtes que la demi journée, donc si les prix sont intéressants, peut être devriez vous regarder ces dernières.
Pour la croisière des 6 ponts, il me semble qu'elle est assez touristique, mais en septembre/octobre, ça devrait déjà aller mieux. Un conseil, promenez vous dans la ville d'abord, et vous verrez ensuite si cela vous tente.... La plupart des "croisières" se terminent par des dégustations de Porto, donc autant en profiter! :)
Cécilia
Pour la croisière des 6 ponts, il me semble qu'elle est assez touristique, mais en septembre/octobre, ça devrait déjà aller mieux. Un conseil, promenez vous dans la ville d'abord, et vous verrez ensuite si cela vous tente.... La plupart des "croisières" se terminent par des dégustations de Porto, donc autant en profiter! :)
Cécilia
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Pour les petites routes d'accès: pas trop compliquées?
Non, nous avons pas mal vadrouillé dans tout ce secteur de Peneda Geres, il y a des petites routes assez étroites, parfois même en terre, mais le trafic est assez réduit. Et en cherchant un peu on trouve des endroits très sympas en montagne où passer la nuit en pleine nature.
Non, nous avons pas mal vadrouillé dans tout ce secteur de Peneda Geres, il y a des petites routes assez étroites, parfois même en terre, mais le trafic est assez réduit. Et en cherchant un peu on trouve des endroits très sympas en montagne où passer la nuit en pleine nature.
Bonsoir Cecilia,
J'ai vu sur votre profil que vous êtes une spécialiste du Nord du Portugal.
Alors vous connaissez certainement Georges DUSSAUD ?
Come vous, je pense qu'après avoir parcouru la route qui longe le Douro - en prenant son temps - la croisière risque de perdre un peu de son intérêt.
Come vous, je pense qu'après avoir parcouru la route qui longe le Douro - en prenant son temps - la croisière risque de perdre un peu de son intérêt.
Bonsoir
La route que vous evoquez est elle la RN 108 de Porto â Peso de Regua?
Je pensais faire une mini '' croisière '' de Peso de Regua jusqu'à Pinhao et retour en train.
A vous lire je peux faire le trajet en Cc depuis Porto â Pinhao. La RN 108 puis la RN 222 sont elles adaptées aux Cc ? Sur les cartes routières elles paraissent très secondaires. J'ai eu affaire à ce type de routes en Sicile et Turquie. Ça passe toujours mais c'est parfois pas agréable voire, galère..
Vous connaisez ces endroits, qu'en pensez-vous ?
Merci
Bonsoir.
Je connais la route vers Peso de Regua et Pinhao, le long de la rivière. Je n'ai pas souvenir de problèmes mais on ne fait que 6,40m de long, cependant des bus et des semi-remorques passent par là.
Pour vous rassurer, avec Google Street Map, on peut visualiser l'itinéraire en vraie grandeur, donc prenez le temps de faire défiler les images. Un exemple au hasard sur cette route 222: https://www.google.fr/maps/@41.1534551, -7.6782617,3a,75y,36.2h,91.51t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfZflKZ3Q-_M6LweCsklUzQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DfZflKZ3Q-_M6LweCsklUzQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D140.9384%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Cliquer sur le petit bonhomme en bas à gauche et faites le tourner pour vous positionner dans l'axe de la route, puis avancez le bonhomme pour suivre l'itinéraire.
Je connais la route vers Peso de Regua et Pinhao, le long de la rivière. Je n'ai pas souvenir de problèmes mais on ne fait que 6,40m de long, cependant des bus et des semi-remorques passent par là.
Pour vous rassurer, avec Google Street Map, on peut visualiser l'itinéraire en vraie grandeur, donc prenez le temps de faire défiler les images. Un exemple au hasard sur cette route 222: https://www.google.fr/maps/@41.1534551, -7.6782617,3a,75y,36.2h,91.51t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfZflKZ3Q-_M6LweCsklUzQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DfZflKZ3Q-_M6LweCsklUzQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D140.9384%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Cliquer sur le petit bonhomme en bas à gauche et faites le tourner pour vous positionner dans l'axe de la route, puis avancez le bonhomme pour suivre l'itinéraire.
Je peux résister à tout, sauf à la tentation.
Oscar Wilde
https://www.escapades-nature-camping-car.fr/forum/
Même réponse pour la 108, elle tourne plus, c'est tout.
Utilisez Google Street Map pour vous rendre compte, les images prises par les caméras de leurs voitures sont superbes.
Utilisez Google Street Map pour vous rendre compte, les images prises par les caméras de leurs voitures sont superbes.
Je peux résister à tout, sauf à la tentation.
Oscar Wilde
https://www.escapades-nature-camping-car.fr/forum/
Bonjour,
Pour compléter la réponse de Pierrebcc à la question que vous me posiez...
je parlais plutôt de la route 222, côté rive gauche du Douro, que j'ai préférée à la 108. Quant à dire que l'une tourne plus que l'autre, euh...sur les deux il faut accepter de prendre son temps.
Nous avons remonté la 22 jusqu'à S Joao da Pesquera. Les vues sur les coteaux du Douro sont superbes tout du long.
Je ne connais ni la Sicile ni la Turquie, mais ces routes ne sont pas plus délicates qu'une départementale chez nous. Et bien plus faciles que certaines voies des Highlands ou du Pays de Galles, voire de certains cols de nos Alpes. Avez vous essayé le col d'Allos en camping car ?
En venant de Bragança vers la serra de Geres, prenez le lac de Vilarinho (barrage d'Alto Rabagao) par sa rive sud : petits villages, espigueros "non touristiques", jolies vues, par temps brumeux on pourrait parfois se croire en Ecosse !
Par contre, petite route...mais rien à voir avec la N103 qui longe la rive Nord.
Pour remonter vers Geres, la 308-1 et juste après Geres, à gauche une (très) petite route rejoint Campo do Geres (camping agréable) par la montagne.
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et juste après Geres, à gauche une (très) petite route rejoint Campo do Geres (camping agréable) par la montagne
Route très belle du point de vue panoramas (s'il fait beau !) mais je confirme qu'elle est très étroite. Jolies balades à pied dans le coin.
et juste après Geres, à gauche une (très) petite route rejoint Campo do Geres (camping agréable) par la montagne
Route très belle du point de vue panoramas (s'il fait beau !) mais je confirme qu'elle est très étroite. Jolies balades à pied dans le coin.
Je peux résister à tout, sauf à la tentation.
Oscar Wilde
https://www.escapades-nature-camping-car.fr/forum/
je confirme qu'elle est très étroite.
Oui mais moins que celle (non revêtue) qui rejoint aussi Campo do Geres en longeant le lac (embranchement juste avant d'arriver au col).
Jolies balades à pied dans le coin
Bien d'accord ! Et puis aussi quelques espigueros anonymes.
Oui mais moins que celle (non revêtue) qui rejoint aussi Campo do Geres en longeant le lac (embranchement juste avant d'arriver au col).
Jolies balades à pied dans le coin
Bien d'accord ! Et puis aussi quelques espigueros anonymes.
Merci à tous pour vos informations.
Je reviendrai probablement pour d'autres infos concernant le sud Portugal.
Je ne sais pas si en règle générale vous utilisez des guides pour préparer vos voyages.
Je le fais mais pas toujours satisfait de mes choix en la matière. Je veux dire que certains guides sont trop axés sur les resto, les bars, les hôtels.. c'est bien mais trop de pages sur ces sujets. Je recherche plus des infos sur les endroits, sites, monuments, musées... à visiter. Pas pleinement satisfait de Lo.. Pl..., Rout.. Mich.. Connaissez vous '' le compagnon de Camping car'' qui édite un guide Portugal en Cc. Aussi un guide '' Voir'' consacré au Portugal ?
Bonsoir Kougarok!
Pour le coup on je ne connaissais pas du tout! j'ai jeté un oeil sur son site!
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Bonsoir,
Passionnée de photographie, grande connaisseuse du Portugal, je pensais que vous connaissiez forcément Georges Dussaud.
Pour ma part, je vous avoue que ce n'est qu'assez récent....
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Et qu'en pensez vous ?
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We’re thinking of:
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We love nature, hiking, and culture (and also good food and wine).😉
Do you have an itinerary to suggest?
Thanks in advance for your replies
We’re traveling in our camper van from Haute-Savoie.
We’ve got 2 weeks in April and want to explore northern Portugal.
We’re thinking of:
- Peneda-Gerês National Park - the Douro Valley - Porto
We love nature, hiking, and culture (and also good food and wine).😉
Do you have an itinerary to suggest?
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there,
We're planning a full week in Iceland in April. Given the short timeframe to prepare, I’m asking for some help on the forum.
We’re considering renting a camper van to be more independent with our travel. - Is this really a good idea at this time of year due to weather conditions (cold nights, poor road conditions, etc.)? - Can we just "park" anywhere for the night to sleep, or do we absolutely have to go to a campsite? What are the approximate rates for a van with 2 people? Do we need to book in advance? - If this mode of transport is recommended, do you have any good places to rent one?
Iceland is still a big island with lots of points of interest, so I think it’ll be tough to see everything in 8 days. - Are there parts of the island we should prioritize in April? We like hiking (nothing too long—6 or 7 hours is out of the question) and unique landscapes. - Are some sites inaccessible at this time of year? - Is Reykjavik worth stopping for a day or two?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Jeff
We're planning a full week in Iceland in April. Given the short timeframe to prepare, I’m asking for some help on the forum.
We’re considering renting a camper van to be more independent with our travel. - Is this really a good idea at this time of year due to weather conditions (cold nights, poor road conditions, etc.)? - Can we just "park" anywhere for the night to sleep, or do we absolutely have to go to a campsite? What are the approximate rates for a van with 2 people? Do we need to book in advance? - If this mode of transport is recommended, do you have any good places to rent one?
Iceland is still a big island with lots of points of interest, so I think it’ll be tough to see everything in 8 days. - Are there parts of the island we should prioritize in April? We like hiking (nothing too long—6 or 7 hours is out of the question) and unique landscapes. - Are some sites inaccessible at this time of year? - Is Reykjavik worth stopping for a day or two?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Jeff
Hi there,
Most of the time when I travel, I tow a trailer with an ATV for my local trips... I’d love to hear from anyone who’s traveled with a trailer and a second vehicle of any kind—especially the downsides of towing a trailer in Norway, aside from ferry costs.
Thanks!
Most of the time when I travel, I tow a trailer with an ATV for my local trips... I’d love to hear from anyone who’s traveled with a trailer and a second vehicle of any kind—especially the downsides of towing a trailer in Norway, aside from ferry costs.
Thanks!
hi,
I’m planning a trip to Albania in a camper van, most likely between May, June, and early July (2027), for about 60 days. On the way down, I’ll go as far as Bari (or Brindisi) and cross by ferry, and on the way back, I’ll go through the former Yugoslavia (or maybe take the return ferry?).
Has anyone been there recently? What are the roads like, the must-see spots, and any general tips you can share?
There’ll probably be two of us traveling together.
Thanks
Hi there,
During our last trip to Greece in 2021, we used Anek Lines' open deck offer, which allowed us to spend the night in our van on an open deck by the sea with access to the ferry's bars, restaurant, and showers (on the Ancona-Igoumenitsa route).
From my initial research, it seems this service no longer exists—can anyone confirm this?
Any alternatives?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to drive my camper van to southern Spain in autumn 2026. Ideally, I’d like to find a ferry leaving from France (Marseille or Toulon, doesn’t matter) that drops me off as far south in Spain as possible. I’ve done some research but haven’t had any luck.
Thanks for your tips!
Vanouk
We’d like to spend 15 days in August visiting Normandy by camper van, starting from Lyon.
Has anyone got an itinerary to suggest for exploring Normandy?
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
Hi there,
I have a bit of a crazy dream... I'd love to drop everything and hit the road with my wife and kids in a camper van.
I want to visit villages to learn, immerse ourselves in other cultures, and see different perspectives on the world. To teach my kids different values.
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
Hi, I’m planning to pick up a camper van in Dubai and drive it back to France... is this even possible? What’s the best route? What are the main challenges? Are there secure parking areas along the way? Is diesel fuel available for the whole trip? ... So many questions... Thanks for your help! See you soon!
I'm planning to drive to the UAE by road, going through Iraq. Has anyone done this and can give me some info? Specifically about the border crossings Turkey/Iraq and Iraq/Kuwait.
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on a trip to New Zealand in a campervan. Is it a good idea to mix hotels and a car on the North Island and a campervan on the South Island? Or should I do the whole trip in a campervan—though visiting big cities seems trickier that way.
Other questions: which companies do you recommend, and what are the least tiring or most sensible routes? 😄
Thanks for sharing your experiences and ideas!
Hi there,
We’re planning to tour Scandinavia by camper van—Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and Norway (in that order)—for 5 weeks from late May to late June 2026.
I’ve done it before, but that was way back in 1980 😎 and by hitchhiking!
We’d love to hear from anyone who’s done this trip about the best routes, great tips, must-know advice, and what to do or avoid (ferries, campsites, etc.).
Thanks in advance!
hi there,
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip with my camper van in autumn 2026 to head to southern Italy from Genoa by ferry.
Ideally, I’d like to leave from Genoa for southern Italy (like Messina) or another city in the boot.
I’ve done some research online but haven’t had any luck.
Can you help or give me some advice?
Thanks in advance!
Vanouk
Hi there, we’ll be in Portugal from March 9 to April 14, 2026. We’ve booked our first five days in Lisbon for sightseeing. After that, we’d like to rent a campervan (RV), but we’re having trouble finding a good site for the rental. The rental would be for about three weeks. Do you have any suggestions for us? We think it’s best to book the campervan before we arrive. And since we’re not mechanics, we need a vehicle in good condition...
Thanks so much for your suggestions. We’re open to everything—even route ideas and places to visit! Pierrette
Thanks so much for your suggestions. We’re open to everything—even route ideas and places to visit! Pierrette
Hi everyone,
We’re leaving from New York and want to head to Quebec in January to visit friends. We’re traveling in our camper van with all-terrain tires and have chains. Is that possible? From what we’ve heard, winter tires are mandatory, which we get—otherwise, there are heavy fines. Can anyone give us some info? Thanks






