Bonjour à tous, en vue d'un voyage au népal pour le tour du Manaslu et une partie du tour des Annapurnas à partir du 14 octobre 2004, je voudrais savoir comment notre groupe peut s'entrainer pour être au mieux..
Merci pour tous vos commentaires..
"Demain, ou dans une prochaine vie, on ne sait jamais ce qui arrivera en premier" (Dicton Sherpa).
D'ici la mi-Octobre entrainement de type footing (endurance à 70-80% VMC) pendant une heure deux fois par semaine si on est en plaine . 1000 m de dénivelées à 500 m /h deux fois par semaine si on a de la grimpette à côté de chez soi. Plus une randonnée à bon ryhtme avec les chaussure que l'on a prévu d'emmener durée 8 heures une fois tout les 15 jours.
Ca devrait aller.
bon trek
si tu vois un péché chez ton frère, dépêche toi de l'enlever de ton coeur (proverbe tibétain)
Merci pour ta réponse. Nous n'avons que 500 m de dénivelé dans les environs mais nous pouvons emprunter une ligne directe qui grimpe bien ! Nous allons essayer de la faire deux fois par semaine.
"Quand c'est dur d'avancer, ce sont les durs qui avancent"
Quelle Chance !
Si le Tour du Manaslu ressemble à celui des Anapurnas, ça promet de beaux paysages et surtout de belles rencontres.
Les Népalais sont des gens très accueillants, tolérants et curieux vis à vis des étrangers, sans pour autant etre envieux ou jaloux. Enfin, c'était le cas il y a une 12aine d'années ... j'espère que ça n'a pas trop changé.
Bref, concernant l'entrainement, tout dépend des étapes que vous faites.
Si c'est un trek organisé par une agence (nous c'était l'UCPA, qui s'appuyait sur une agence locale), il y a de grandes chances pour que ce soit à la portée du plus grand nombre. Il y avait dans notre groupe d'env 15 pers des marathoniens et des gens (homme ou femme) pas vraiment sportifs, ni meme habitué des randos en montagne.
Cela dit, il ne faut pas tenter le diable, et 2 ou 3 footings par semaine en endurance, (ou course + vélo + piscine) n'ont jamais fait de mal à personne. Et pourquoi pas en profiter pour faire régulièrement des randos à la découverte de votre région ?
C'est beau les Vosges, non !? 😎
Là où ça pourrait devenir difficile, c'est si vous faites ça sans porteur ni cuisinier, parce qu'il faudrait alors porter lourd, et ça ça suppose un très bon entrainement, et une très bonne habitude de la rando en montagne avec un sac lourd : tenir un rythme lent et surtout régulier pendant plusieurs heures, et savoir s'alimenter régulièrement. L'entrainement set aussi à ça.
Quoi qu'il en soit, le plus dur sera sans doute le passage d'un col en altitude, et là, à moins d'alller au Mont Blanc, je ne vois comment savoir si vous en supporterez les méfaits. Et meme, c'est tellement aléatoire, que ça ne garantit rien.
Pour info, je suis (fus) marathonien (~3h) et j'ai passé le Thorong La (5400m) "dans les vap", avec un mal de tete pire qu'un lendemain de cuite...
Donc, mon conseil, au moins dans le cas d'un trek "organisé" (porteurs ...etc...) c'est d'avoirune activité physique raisonnable mais régulière dans les jours qui viennent, en faisant attention de ne pas vous faire mal, ce serait dommage !
Bon Voyage 🙂,
profitez-en bien et si vous allez jusqu'à Manang (tour des Anapurnas), prenez le temps de monter au dessus du village. Asseyez-vous et regarder, et écoutez le silence et le vent qui murmure les prières des drapeaux au dessus du village.
En entrainement nous avons passés qqes jours à Tignes pour monter à la Grande Sassière (3 747m), c'était un test pour voir comment on gére l'effort à cette altitude 😊 Tout le petit groupe est monté, c'est rassurant mais ça veut encore rien dire ! La grande Sassière est accessible facilement par temps sec avec une vue superbe sur la grande casse, le mont Pourri, le mont blanc et le Cervin.
Notre trek au Népal se fera avec des Sherpas et nous dormirons sous tentes, le sac de couchage devra être très douillet (ce sera le prochain achat, la semaine prochaine certainement !). Il y aura deux cols à passer le Larkya-La à 5200m pour le tour du Manaslu et le Thorong-La à 5416m dans les Annapurnas. L'entrainement est donc primordial d'autant plus que le footing, c'est vraiment pas notre truc 😕
Enfin, notre guide se veut rassurant, il nous promet une lente progression, si qq'un n'est pas bien, on fera une journée de repos, cela nous rassure.
Tu dis avoir passé le Thorong-la avec un mal de tête, comment as-tu fais, as-tu envisagé un instant faire demi-tour ? (ça passe ou ça casse ! mais j'y vais !)
c'est vrai qu'on se pose un tas de questions, surtout pour le premier séjour au Népal, en fait c'était pareil pour notre première randonnée sur 8 jours dans le Quéras, aujourd'hui on y va beaucoup plus confiant.
Ouaaah !
Ca va etre beau !
Pour le passage du Thorong La, je dois dire que j'étais dans un tel état que je ne pouvais pas vraiment décider ou envisager quoi que ce soit.
En tout état de cause, le guide et les sherpas veillent, observent sans rien dire et sont prets à daire redescendre quelqu'un qui va mal.
Moi, c'est allé mieux dès que je suis redescendu aux environs de 4500m.
Mais jusque là, "tunnel noir" ... je m'endormais en marchant ... sensation vraiment étrange.🤪
Le hic, d'après le guide, c'est que j'en parlais tellement de cette histoire d'altitude, que je ne me suis pas aidé "psychologiquement".
Et aussi, je n'avais pas marché assez régulièrement les jours précédents.
Bref, oublie ça un peu. C'est de toutes façons assez aléatoire. Ca peut bien se passer un jour et moins bien voire très mal un autre.
Le plus important est de bien gérer l'effort et l'alimentation. Tu verras, de toutes façons, l'appétit vient avec l'altitude !
Question nourriture, il faut aussi faire très attention à l'eau (faire bouillir), et éviter les crudités, surtout à Katmandou.
Quant à l'entrainement, de bonnes randos à un bon rythme dans les Vosges peuvent remplacer avantageusement des footings
😉
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It doesn’t have to be all trekking; day hikes are great too.
I’m open to any tips!
Also, I see there are lots of train options if you book well in advance—does that only apply to the "fast" trains? Are there buses as well?
Hello,
In mid-November, we’ll be in Mindelo and Santo Antão.
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One trip is from Porto Novo to Ponta do Sol, including the hike from Corda to Coculi.
What’s the trail like?
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An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk.
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What do you think of this itinerary?
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Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
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Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
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General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
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If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
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Elocine
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If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
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We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
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Hi there,
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A few details:
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Hi there,
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Have a great day,
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Best regards,
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Hello!
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Thanks in advance
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