Je m`apprete a finir mon voyage de 6 semaines en Ethiopie ( excusez pour le manque d`accent, clavier ethiopien oblige).
J`aimerais avoir le ressenti des gens qui ont parcouru ce pays par rapport aux enfants ethiopiens. Je n`ai pas assez voyage dans d`autres pays pour avoir de point de comparaison, et c`etait la premiere fois que je voyageais seule, donc j`aurai besoin du point de vue de voyageurs plus experimentes avant de me faire un avis sur la question.
J`ai seulement decouvert rapidement 2 semaines le Mali, et dans mes souvenirs, les enfants n`etaient pas comme en Ethiopie : peut etre la langue joue-t-elle un role dans le rapport aux enfants. Voici mon ressenti en Ethiopie
Sur 40 jours, il m` a ete quasiment impossible de nouer des relations ou seulement de passer de bons moments avec des enfants. Pourtant, j`adore les enfants, je suis tres sociable, et en general je deambulais seule, donc facilement accessible. Je vais peser mes mots car je ne voudrais pas porter de jugements hatifs, mais il m`a vraiment semble que les enfants ne parviennent pas a te voir comme autre chose qu`un porte monnaie ambulant ou comme une banque de don. J`ai meme fait les frais de quelques comportements agressifs: pincements, cailloux, etc.
Je comprends tout a fait les conditions materielles de ces enfants, seulement au Mali, ou pourtant leurs conditions de vie sont similaires, il etait possible de jouer avec eux, ou de partager un bon moment. Ici, bien que j`ai essaye, impossible, si je leur dis que je ne leur donnerai pas d`argent, ils demandent des stylos. Pas de stylos? Ils me demandent mon turban, mes chaussures, mes boucles d`oreilles, a manger...
Avant de porter un jugement, et en ayant tout a fait conscience de la misere ethiopienne, je souhaitais reccueillir des temoignages, savoir si cela est caracteristique de l`Ethiopie seulement ou si c`est dans tous les pays pareil. Parce que, et cela n`engage que moi, je ne peux pas dire que la relation avec les enfants soit agreable en Ethiopie. Je parle essentiellement des enfants dans la rue ou en bande, et des regions du nord. A l`est, la medicite est moindre.
Merci a tous, et svp, pas de reponse moralisatrice. Mon intention n`est pas d`engager un debat sur la pauvrete en Ethiopie et sur le fait que nous sommes privilegies, etc. J`en ai tout a fait conscience, et je savais a quoi m`attendre, mais peut etre pas a ce point..
Finissons sur une note positive: cela ne gache pas le voyage, mais le rend peut etre moins agreable, l`objectif d1un voyage etant aussi d`echanger avec la population.
bonjour Camille,
J'ai répondu à VF sur le site que l'on a proposé de lire sur l'accueil éthiopien. Je n'ai pas eu cette impression. Mais il faut savoir qu'en ethiopie, les habitants d'addis ont besoin d'un interprète dans de nombreuses régions (idem à madagascar, entre Tana et le reste de l'île). Alors nous, comment établir un dialogue avec ces gens alors que tout nous sépare et différencie. durant nos 3 semaines en ethiopie, nous n'avons eu aucun problème avec la population et nos enfants (14 et 16 ans) ont toujours des"copains" partout où nous nous sommes arrêtés. Dans de nombreux endroits, ils n'avaient jamais vu d'enfants blancs!!!!Incroyable mais vrai...
Quant à vouloir échanger avec la population, tout le monde n'est pas Lévy Strauss et la barrière de la langue sera toujours un handicap pour nous rapprocher. Au fait, Camille, sais-tu comment vit ta voisine de palier en France ?
Bonne fin de circuit et profites en bien.
dominique
Je n' ai pas le profil que vous recherchez (jamais allé en Ethiopie , et a priori sans intention de m' y rendre) .
Mais pour avoir lu un certain nombre d' échanges sur le sujet , dont nombre d' interventions proches de votre compte-rendu mais d' autres aussi qui s' en démarquent : on a souvent l' impression que les voyageurs n' ont pas visité le même pays !
Cela relativise les témoignages humains , et souligne la difficulté du reportage d' information ... 🤪
Tout de même , il ne doit pas être aisé d' "échanger" entre personnes aux moyens d' existence si radicalement différents à partir du moment où chaque partie a conscience de cette situation . Peut-être dans des villages restés à l' écart des informations du monde , et plus naturellement avec des enfants (mais à l' évidence pas tous) ...
La différence criarde (on peut même parler d' abyme) entre nos conditions économiques et celles de certains pays peut expliquer partiellement des comportements peu agréables...qu' on ne peut cependant généraliser..
Il y a de nombreux échanges et écrits sur le sujet pour l' Ethiopie, dont un Post "difficile Ethiopie" qui a donné lieu à des débats très animés..
L' Ethiopie est plus que pauvre, je n' ai plus le PIB par habitant en tête, mais c' est tellement bas que certaines industries chinoises envisagent de délocaliser des productions en Ethiopie...
Cela étant, pour ce qui est des comportements de la part des enfants , je suis persuadé qu' il y a également une part d' éducation; je rentre d' un court voyage entre autres en Zambie et au Zimbabwe; dans ce dernier pays (PIB 200 dollars par tête par an, soit 200 fois mois qu' en France), le premier mot des enfants de certains villages reculés a été "give me a sweet". Je n' ai jamais eu cela en Zambie, qui n' est pourtant pas beaucoup plus riche...
Allez savoir...je persiste à penser, même si certains membres de VF ont de très bonnes expériences, dues également pour partie à des relations personnelles sur place, qu 'il existe une certaine xénophobie en Ethiopie...
Bonjour Eric et Jean michel54,
soit je ne suis pas normal, soit j'accepte tout: j'ai pas mal bourlingué et je n'ai pas le ressenti présenté sur certains posts vis-à-vis de l'accueil des Ethiopiens au regard des étrangers. Ce n'est pas pire qu'au Maghreb ou qu'en Egypte. Les demandes des enfants sont quasiment les mêmes partout -money, bonbons, .....- Au niveau de l'éducation, les enfants en ethiopie apprennent l'anglais dès la primaire et même dans les endroits reculés. un petit français de 8 ans serait bien en mal de demander à un étranger de quel pays il vient!!!! Bien sûr, tous ne vont pas à l'université...le fait de demander à un étranger quelquechose est principalement fonction de la fréquentation touristique. en 2011, nous étions au soudan et là aucun enfant n'est venu nous demander quoi que ce soit ( 2000 touristes par an, toutes nations confondues!!).
bien sûr, le niveau de vie est très faible en Ethiopie, mais la population est à 85% agricole donc elle vit en autosuffisance. Les marchés regorgent de produits et la famine des années 70 a marqué les esprits européens. Le problème essentiel réside dans le manque de mécanisation de l'agriculture, tout est fait encore avec la houe en bois tirée par des boeufs malgré la taille des champs qui ferait rougir des fermiers de la Beauce!!! Les tracteurs commencent à faire leur apparition et même les moissonneuses batteuses. mais le chemin sera long avant qu'il y ait une amélioration quantifiable de la production agricole afin de pouvoir exporter des excédents. Le coton et la canne à sucre sont les nouveaux produits qui compléteront les productions déjà exportées telles que le café en particulier.
Pour finir, il n'y a pas de xénophobie en Ethiopie pour la simple raison est que c'est le seul pays africain à ne pas avoir été colonisé (sauf 5 ans par les Italiens entre 36 et 41)
Pour finir, il n'y a pas de xénophobie en Ethiopie pour la simple raison est que c'est le seul pays africain à ne pas avoir été colonisé (sauf 5 ans par les Italiens entre 36 et 41)
Pas évident que la xénophobie soit nécessairement la conséquence d' une période de sujétion coloniale préalable .
Elle semble en grande partie absente de la presque totalité des pays d' Afrique hérités dans leurs limites géographiques et ethniques des colonisations européennes (en réalité brève parenthèse historique d' une soixantaine d' années) .
En revanche , elle a pu s' exprimer parfois avec force dans des pays politiquement souverains comme la Chine ou le Japon du XVIIème au XIXéme siècle . Ces pays étaient convaincus du prestige et de la valeur de leur civilisation , mais aussi du retard économique pris sur l' Occident , et adoptaient une attitude de défense (mais sélective - cf le rôle scientifique des Jésuites à la cour impériale de Pékin par exemple) .
Certes l' empire d'Ethiopie , ou d' Abyssinie , fut un ensemble beaucoup + modeste à tous égards , mais avec une religion ancienne qui lui est propre , des légendes comme celle de la reine de Saba , et qui malgré sa pauvreté fut capable d' opposer une résistance militaire coriace aux troupes italiennes . Maintenant , pas non plus de quoi établir forcément un rapport avec les gamins qui jettent parfois des pierres sur les voyageurs ... 🤪😉
Bonne journée 🙂
bonjour Jean michel,
on s'est connu sur les forums Namibie: les gamins en ethiopie ne sont pas différents des gamins himba. ils demandent la même chose: argent, bonbons, stylo. souvent c'est de notre faute, en voulant faire plaisir nous leur avons donné de mauvaises habitudes et comme le plus souvent également nous ne parlons pas leur langue, cela ne facilite pas le contact.
quant à la xénophobie éthiopienne, cela ne m'est jamais apparu au cours des 2 voyages effectués dans ce pays. J'ai quasiment parcouru l'ensemble du pays excepté le tigray et le Danakhil que je ferai certainement bientôt. Personne ne nous a jeté des pierres même en nous promenant sans guide. la seule agressivité pouvait venir de personnes alcoolisées mais cela est une autre histoire et malheureusement universelle!!
Je n`ai senti aucune xenophobie de la part des adultes et de la majorite des Ethiopiens, et je ne parle pas de xenophobie de la part des enfants, qui selon moi sont juste irresponsables.
Bien sur il y a une abime entre eux et moi, mais je tenais juste a souligner le fait que parfois, ( je parle de 3 ou 4 fois dans mon voyage) cela devenait du harcelement : une petite fille qui refusait de me lacher le bras en me demandant money, money. Ca a dure presque une bonne minute ou j`ai du la decrocher avec force.. Une autre fois ou je me suis faite insulter parce que apres 10 mn de harcelement pour des bonbons par deux gamins d`une dizaine d`annees, je leur ai dit fermement baka!! ( ca suffit!!), et ils m`ont repondu fuck you!! Les adultes qui assistent a ces scenes, parfois me defendaient, parfois arretaient les enfants, donc je ne dirai pas qu`il y a un sentiment xenophobe de la part des Ethiopiens, en tout cas je ne l`ai pas du tout ressenti.
Au contraire, chaque fois que je disais d`ou je venais, les Ethiopiens etaient ravis, la France et les Francais semblent tres apprecies.
Le point noir du voyage aura juste ete ce rapport aux enfants. En outre, au fur et a mesure du voyage, j`avais le sentyiment qu`il etait important d`etablir une connexion avec eux peut etre pour nuancer la vision des farenjis qu`ils ont, mais sans succes.
Je ne peux pas leur en vouloir, je ne peux que le deplorer.
Merci pour vos reponses, et le debat reste ouvert.
.. Une autre fois ou je me suis faite insulter parce que apres 10 mn de harcelement pour des bonbons par deux gamins d`une dizaine d`annees, je leur ai dit fermement baka!! ( ca suffit!!), et ils m`ont repondu fuck you!! Je ne peux pas leur en vouloir, je ne peux que le deplorer.
Merci pour vos reponses, et le debat reste ouvert.
désolé 😉 mais c'est beka pour "ça suffit" !
J'ai souvent utilisé " beka" et en général ça les a bien stoppé
Par contre "fuck you" je leur aurrai fait passer l'envie de le répéter ! Il faut leur faire comprendre la portée de leur paroles ...car souvent ils agissent par immitation pour faire les malins devant leurs copains ...
PS : je parle en connaisseur puisque j'en ai adopté un 😉
Pour répondre à ta question, pour ma part, je n'ai pas eu de rapports aussi difficiles avec les enfants. Bien sûr je ne peux nier les "farenji, money, birr, et autres bonbons" que je ne compte plus. Je leur répondais en amharique "faut travailler pour gagner l'argent, d'abord l'école", à leur "faranji" je répondais "habesha" en rigolant et souvent le rire était communicatif.
J'ai aussi l'avantage du dessin et je peux te garantir que les gamins qui me regardent dessiner n'ont pas l'esprit à me demander quoi que ce soit, c'est à chaque fois un beau moment partagé. Bien sûr je ne dessine pas tout le temps et ça m'est arrivé de me faire un peu embêté par des gamins, mais jamais trop longtemps.
A Harar par exemple, j'ai croisé des voyageurs qui se faisaient tout le temps harceler, alors que moi j'ai fait de très belles rencontres, totalement désintéressées, je me suis d'ailleurs installé dans une famille en plein Ramadan.
Les jets de cailloux c'est au Yémen et au Maroc que j'y ai eu droit...
Salut Chris, il va falloir patienter un peu car on sort le carnet de Birmanie cette année.
Je bosse par contre sur le calendrier 2013 Ethiopie en ce moment même...😉
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
We're heading to South Africa for a month with 5 adults.
We'd like to rent a vehicle that can accommodate 5 people and all our luggage.
We're starting in Cape Town and ending in Johannesburg.
What vehicle would you recommend?
EDITH
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country.
I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much).
Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
😊🦁
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
