Des vacanciers marocains agressés sur les aires d'autoroutes espagnoles (23 juillet 2009)
by Christalblue
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Si cela s'avère vrai c'est profondément pathétique.
20ans pour arrêter une bande organisée + que visible de tous.Quelle honte.
20ans pour arrêter une bande organisée + que visible de tous.Quelle honte.
avec le voyage, le temps s'arrête, le notre continue
Fin septembre , je dois traverser l Espagne pour le rendre au Maroc av un camping car , je suis seule av un chien... ET J AI PEUR !!! Je cherche de toute façon des gens qui descendent a cette date la ... Oui il y a des agressions en Espagne , il y a une dizaine d année av un camping car ( aire de Sagunto ),5 enfants 3 chiens nous avons tous été endormis et fouillés!!! et............volés 🙂 , il y a 2 ans , j ai rencontré dans le sud du Maroc , un petit groupe de Hollandais qui avais décidé de faire la traversée de l Afrique en commencant par le Maroc , av 2 gros 4X4 et tractais sur un plateau les motos , des faux policiers les on arretés et... Ils se sont fait volés une grosse d 'argent , ce n est pas un HOAX et que ca plaise ou non , je connais tres bien l Espagne et c'est vraiment le seul pays qui me fait peur !!!
C' est malheureusement réputé comme ca ... L 'Espagne c'est DANGEREUX , surtout l 'autoroute apres Madrid non payante pour aller a Granada !!!
Il y a 4 ans j'étais seule en voiture golf et mon chien , juste environ 50 m avant d arriver aux guichets ou on prend les tickets pour le bateau au ^port, il était environ 18 h , un homme s est approché de moi av un faux batch qui pendais a son cou ou il était marqué ( Ferry ) la personne était algérienne , il me demande les papiers de ma voiture , et me dit que c trop tard pour le bateau sauf le rapide , il monte ds ma voiture et me dit qu en se depechant , de faire demi tour pour aller chercher un tiket , ( pour moi ct le premiere fois que je prenais ce bateau seule ) alors je m 'execute et il me fait aller vers un endroit assez desert , pres de l eau , la il me dit de le suivre , mais mon chien reste ds la voiture , alors il a fait en sorte de m'éloigner de ma voiture , je me suis méfiée et je lui ai arracher mes papiers de véhicule des mains , et je suis retournée a ma voiture , il me suivais et déjà un de ses complice était pres de ma voiture , qd je suis rentrée , le complice a ouvert la portiere du coté passager et a passer sa main pour attrapper un sac , et mon chien a surgit et lui a mordu le bras , il a eu le reflexe de se retirer et j ai démarrer , la tout de suite j ai vu la police et je les ai alerter en klaxonant ils on compris que qlq chose n allais pas et de suite il sont partis a la recherche des voleurs , ils en on rattraper un dailleurs !!! ( voila comment je sais qu il était algérien ) , j'étais assez choquée , sur le coup je ne panique pas du tout , mais apres ... Les policiers Esapgnols on été tres gentils av moi , café, chocolat 😠, se sont occupé des formalités douane ectr et m on fait embarquer prioritaire ds le ferry pour Tanger.
Au Maroc je n ai pas peur, je m y sent bien , mais pas en Espagne.
On juge la grandeur et la morale d'une nation a la façon dont elle traite ses animaux.
Délicieux, ces messages qui année après année reviennent, annonceurs des beaux jours ! 😄😄😄😄😄
Cordialement,
Romain
« Il faut d'abord savoir ce que l'on veut, il faut ensuite avoir le courage de le dire, il faut enfin l'énergie de le faire. » (Georges Clémenceau)
Romain
« Il faut d'abord savoir ce que l'on veut, il faut ensuite avoir le courage de le dire, il faut enfin l'énergie de le faire. » (Georges Clémenceau)
Non non c la premiere fois que je post sur ce sujet , et si je m y interresse c justement parce que je dois descendre en septembre... Je ne comprend pas pourquoi voius réagissez comme ca , il n est pas question de mettre en cause le pays en lui mm , mais des dangers réels qui existent en Espagne.
On juge la grandeur et la morale d'une nation a la façon dont elle traite ses animaux.
😉bonjour voici un cas concret arrivé la semaine passéé , une de mes nieces , espagnole d, origine descend a VALENCE chercher sa maman , un peu après BARCELONE elle s arrete dans un station avec resto pour faire le plein et aller au wc , ,, pedant quelle fait le plein , une voiture se met tout près d, elle , ,, et au moment de payer plus de sac , ,sur le siège , ,, plus de papier , plus de telèphone , ,elle va s, adresser aux policiers qui buvaient leur café , ,, c, était le 3eme vols identiques en 4 heures , ,en plein ap midi avec plein de monde autour , ,, heureusement quelle parle espagnol et que la police était sur place , ,, mais elle en est traumatiséé ...voici encore un cas concret ...😊
et bien moi c'est du vecu , 2 fois meme !!!!
1ere fois janvier 2007 , une golf vient rouler devant moi et ralentit et veut me faire stopper en avec un type coté passager qui pend a travers la vitre en faissant signe un probleme avec ma roue, heureusement j'avais lu des mesaventures et je n'ai pas ralentis ils se sont jetés sur la troisieme bande et sont partis
2e fois, avril 2011 j'entends trois coups de suite a l'arriere de la voiture une audi break me dépasse avec une femme cote passager qui pend a travers la vitre me fais signe de stopper , ils roulent devant moi et ralentissent pour me faire stopper , moi j'accelaire a fond pour lui foncer dedans ( un gros parre buffle de land cruiser dans son cul cela doit faire mal) , mais il avait directement compris , c'est jeté sur la troisieme bande et est parti resultat, trois coup dans la carosserie sur portes arrieres du toyota , probablement du aux lancement de pierres
les deux fois c'était du coté de barcelone, sur l'autoroute un endroit SANS peage en pleine journée
ceci n'est pas vu dans un film de western mais du vecu personellement tout cela se passe en quelques secondes que l'on a meme pas le temps de noter le numero de plaque de leur voiture
1ere fois janvier 2007 , une golf vient rouler devant moi et ralentit et veut me faire stopper en avec un type coté passager qui pend a travers la vitre en faissant signe un probleme avec ma roue, heureusement j'avais lu des mesaventures et je n'ai pas ralentis ils se sont jetés sur la troisieme bande et sont partis
2e fois, avril 2011 j'entends trois coups de suite a l'arriere de la voiture une audi break me dépasse avec une femme cote passager qui pend a travers la vitre me fais signe de stopper , ils roulent devant moi et ralentissent pour me faire stopper , moi j'accelaire a fond pour lui foncer dedans ( un gros parre buffle de land cruiser dans son cul cela doit faire mal) , mais il avait directement compris , c'est jeté sur la troisieme bande et est parti resultat, trois coup dans la carosserie sur portes arrieres du toyota , probablement du aux lancement de pierres
les deux fois c'était du coté de barcelone, sur l'autoroute un endroit SANS peage en pleine journée
ceci n'est pas vu dans un film de western mais du vecu personellement tout cela se passe en quelques secondes que l'on a meme pas le temps de noter le numero de plaque de leur voiture
Bonjour,
Un petit rappel qui n'est peut-être pas superflu;
Un "touriste en voiture", c'est quoi ?
Une personne qui a avec elle:
Des bagages,
Du cash et des moyens de paiement,
Des objets de valeur (camescope, appareil photo, Gsm, ordiou tablette, etc...),
C'est donc une "personne intéressante" pour les tires-laines de tout poil.
Ceci est vrai partout.
Accessoirement, en Espagne, certains itinéraires concentrent le trafic (autour de Madrid, Valence, Grenade, Salamaque, Seville). En France, ce sera Paris et le triangle Orange/Nimes/Toulon-Aix.
En tout cas, il est "déconseillé" de laisser certaines affaires visibles et "à portée de mains indélicates".
Les MRE en transit en Espagne réunissent toutes les conditions pour succiter certains intérets comme les "Européens du nord" (réputés à tort ou à raison comme payant en cash).
Bref, et sans trop se prendre la tête, comme partout, il convient d'être raisonablement prudent.
J'ai du faire une bonne vingtaine de milliers de Km en Espagne, sans aucun soucis, mais tout en étant "relativement" vigilant.
Donc bons voyages à tous,
Razul
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We’re planning a trip to Finland and Norway this summer, starting in Oulu to explore Lapland, heading up to the North Cape, and then making our way down to Bergen.
This route means renting a car in Finland and dropping it off in Norway. My initial searches are showing rental rates that are... astronomical—about three times the price compared to returning it at the starting point.
I’m guessing I’m not the only one wanting to visit both countries. Are there any great tips to drastically reduce the cost of renting a car?
Thanks to the community for your suggestions!
Hi there, we’re a couple of bikers planning a trip to Majorca in June 2026, and I’d love to organize a half-day or full-day boat or catamaran outing. Which coast do you think is the nicest for this, and do you have any suggestions or personal experiences to share? Thanks in advance!