Hi !
avis perso,
laisse tomber ce que tu as prévu le 18 et fonce sur le grand canyon ou chelly
le 22, laisse tombé le Navaro NM et fait un tour en bateau sur le lac Powel, le plus court le moins cher, celui qui fait la partie immergée d'Antelop canyon
le 24, peu de temps pour Bryce et Zion -* dans ce cas favorise le premier -dodo à Mesquite plutôt que St Georges
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Ok...
Merci pour cet avis!
Combien de temps faut il pour faire Phoenix Grand Canyon? et dans quelle ville peut on faire une étape pour dormir si je continue mon périple après?
(Grand Canyon village c'est trop cher....😕)
Je précise que l'on est 3 filles avec une voiture...
Le 18 : perte de temps sur un sur un timing aussi court.
Le 20 : l'A/R pour Chelly, ne vous permettra pas une grande visite, et ne vaut pas necessairement le coup ( voir post precedant sur sujet).
Le 21 : meme avec la visite voiture , la ballade à cheval t le coucher de soleil, votre journée ne sera pas rempli, loin de là. Prevois plutot de faire Navaro national monument à ce moment là ( jamais fait donc je sais pas si ca vaut le coup) ou alors d'aller faire Valley of God.
Tu recuperes 1 ou 2 jours ( 18 et 20) Rajoute un jour pour Zion Bryce. Ainsi, non seulement tu visiteras Bryce, mais tu pourras egalement faire Zion . On traverse le parc effectivment lorsque l'on vient de Bryce , et la route est magnifique, mais n'a absolument rien à voir avec "l'interieur" du parc, qui est tres beau egalement, et qui merite un arret pour courte rando. ( voir les post sur le sujet)
Cela te laisse egalement un jour de plus pour rejoindre Phoenix en trainant du cotéde Sedona, voir de descendre à Tucson admirer les cactus Saguarro, et visiter le musee du desert.
Bonne vacance
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
Je rentre d'une boucle Phoenix/phoenix, différente de la votre. Il y a des dizaines d'hôtels près de l'aéroport qui viennent vous chercher en navette. La visite de Flagstaff ne vous prendra pas longtemps, en revanche vous y trouverez plusieurs magasins "country". Les hôtels dans le parc de GC sont très chers, mais à Canyon City, de nombreux hôtels bons marchés. Attention, l'été c'est souvent bondé! Coucher de soleil sur le canyon de Chelly magnifique! Monument Valley idem GC, prix excessifs, essayez Kayenta. Le lac Powell est une merveille et mérite plus qu'une baignade! Pour Las Végas, des centaines d'hôtels à tous prix, attention au WE. Pour un tarif affiché de 850$ la chambre à l'Excalibur, j'ai payé 46$ dimanche soir et 36$ lundi soir, résa sur le net dans le hall de l'hôtel! Sedona est superbe et l'environnement splendide. Oatman est à voir, Kingman sans intérêt, Seligman mérite un coup d'oeil chez "Delgadillo" et Williams a encore un parfum de route 66, photos au Wigwam Hôtel. La chaîne Motel 6 est dans les moins chers, avec wi fi internet dans les chambres, mais il y a plein de motels indépendants à comparer. Voilà, qq idées, bon voyage, c'est un pays magnifique. Mais, mais les indiens des "réserves" sont rarement aimables, leurs produits, hôtel compris, bcp trop chers et n'ont rien à faire de votre satisfaction! Mais, mais j'en ai rencontré des charmants qui n'avaient rien à me vendre, c'est un "feeling" spontané qui permet de belles rencontres! L'Arizona, pays splendide, est divisé en de nombreux "états", "nations" ou "réserves indiennes" avec leurs lois fédérales et principes locaux. On the road again!
Allez, je me dévoue 😛 : ne le prenez pas mal, mais votre projet me semble surréaliste ! 🤪
18/08 : perso je ne m'attarderais pas à Flagstaff ! vu votre peu de temps partout, filez au Grand Canyon et essayer d'en profiter un peu... surtout que vous dormez loin du parc (Cameron)...
19/08 : journée impossible à tenir ! 🤪 avec "balade bateau dans Lac Powell+baignade, Antelope canyon, Horseshoe Bend, Monument valley"
Cameron --> Page ~ 1h30 de route... Horseshoe Bend et Antelope Canyon me semblent plus raisonnable... la balade en bateau + baignade bof...
Page --> Monument Valley ~ 3h de route... essayez de faire la boucle en voiture (~1h30 à 2h selon vos arrêts) avant le coucher du soleil...
20/08 : à quelle heure la balade à cheval à MV ? Valley of Gods + aller à Moab vous prendra bien 3h30... vous ne verrez pas grand chose de Arches (surtout en voiture)...
21/08 : Arches + Dead Horse Point + Canyonlands (partie Island in the Sky, j'espère ?) = impossible de faire tout ça en 1 journée ! ou alors vous ne sortez pas de votre voiture... vous ne profiterez de rien... et en + vous avez à faire la route jusque Torrey (~ 3h15) 🤪🤪🤪 !!!!
22/08 : Capitol Reef + route jusque Tropic = ok. Vous pouvez même envisager de commencer à visiter Bryce (coucher de soleil).
23/08 : Bryce + route jusque Springdale = ok
24/08 : Zion + route jusque Vegas = ok
25/08 : Las vegas, Hoover Dam, Route 66 et Dodo : Williams ... why not...
26/08 : Meteor Crater (why not, mais perso je ne ferais pas le détour, vous n'avez pas assez de temps !) - Sedona (en 1 jour, il faudra choisir quoi y visiter ! les balades sont nombreuses... on y a passé plus de 3 jours et on n'a largement pas tout vu ! sans compter qu'en août, la moindre rando dans le coin doit être infernale vu la chaleur !) ... Tucson ????? non c'est une blague ??? Le Tucson qui est à plus de 3h30 de route de Sedona (2h au sud de Phoenix) ???
Bref, c'est un peu too much comme programme en 9 jours !
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
A moins de ne pas sortir de la voiture, certaines journées sont trop chargées et donc sans intérêts. 🙁
Il faut reprendre au moins les 19, 20 et 21 août
Pffff c'est pas facile.... il y a tellement de choses à voir ....🤪
Et vous pensez quoi du circuit dans le sens inverse (n'hésiter pas à tout me dire, même si vous pensez que je dois supprimer des étapes, tant pis, je sais qu'il faudra chosir pour pouvoir mieux profiter du reste ....)
18/08 : Phoenix - Grand Canyon
dodo Grand canyon ou Tusayan
19/08 : Route vers Las Vegas (passage par la route 66 et par Hoover Dam)
dodo : Las Vegas
20/08 : Las vegas (départ fin de matinée) - Zion National Park
dodo Springdale
21/08 : Petite balade dans Zion - Bryce Canyon
dodo Tropic
22/08 : Scenic Byway 12 - Canyonlands National Park (route vers Island In The Sky)
dodo Moab
23/08 : Arches National Park - Monument Valley (pour couché du soleil)
dodo : Mexican Hat
26/08 : route vers Sedona (petite pause) puis Phoenix
dodo Phoenix
Dommage qu'on ne puisse pas faire la route et les balades au grès de nos envies sur place ... au feeling quoi!!
Au mois d'Aout, je préfère reserver les hotels donc me fixer dès que possible sur les étapes du soir et c'est pas simple .....😊
21/08 : MV - Canyon de Chelly (2h x2) ou Mesa Verde ? - dodo Mexican hat
22/08 : Valley of Gods - Goosenecks SP - Natural Bridges - Route vers Torrey (3h30) - dodo Torrey
23/08 : Scenic drive 12 (avec points de vue) - Bryce (4h30) - dodo Hatch ou Glendale, Orderville
Et Capitol Reef dans tout ça ?
24/08 : Zion - Las vegas (2h30) - dodo Las vegas
25/08 : Las vegas - route 66 - Sedona (5h de route)
Pour ton jour en +, je pense à plusieurs possibilités : un jour de plus vers Bryce/Zion car ta visite de Bryce risque d'être assez courte... une fin d'aprem à Bryce + une matinée serait plus sympa... puis une aprem à Zion et une matinée et un début d'aprem avant d'aller à Las Vegas (tu peux même envisager un passage à Valley of Fire en fin de journée avant d'aller à Vegas)... ou alors 1 jour à Sedona car il y a déjà 5h de route entre Vegas et Sedona, sans compter les arrêts Route 66... donc si tu as envie de faire qq randos à Sedona ?
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
Ah zut, j'avais un peu zappé que du coup ça t'obligeait à faire une étape Las Vegas --> Phoenix (6h de route) 🤪
Tu reprends l'avion tôt le matin à Phx ? j'imagine que tu as déjà tes billets d'avion ?
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
ou alors ne serait-il pas plus malin de faire Phoenix- Page le premier jour et s'arrêter au Grand Canyon en rentrant de Las vegas (du coup l'avant dernier jour) et faire GC - Phoenix le dernier jour ... ??
Entre les 2, j'ai une préférence pour l'itinéraire n°2 (le 26/08 reste une journée ultra chargée)...
Car dans l'itinéraire n°1, le 18 comporte déjà quasi 5h de route, idem pour le 25 et j'ai la vague impression que le passage au Grand Canyon risque d'être assez court... mais peut être que je me trompe ?? d'autres avis seraient bienvenus 😉
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Hello!
We’ll be arriving in Montreal on October 21st for a 3-day stay.
After that, we’re heading to Sherbrooke to visit our daughter, who’s studying at the university there. We’ll spend 3 days with her, and then, since she has a break that week, we’re taking her along for 3 days in Quebec City.
We’ve planned to visit Montmorency Falls and Île d'Orléans.
I’d love to hear what route you’d recommend for the drive from Sherbrooke to Quebec City—we’ll have the whole day to take it easy.
If you have any other recommendations, I’m all ears!
A little disappointed that the fall colors will be over by then, but the dates couldn’t be helped. Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello everyone,
We’ve planned a trip (retired couple) for late August to the first half of September in Western Canada.
Classic itinerary: arrival in Calgary, Banff, Jasper, Clearwater, Whistler, Vancouver Island, departure from Vancouver.
I know you can’t see into the future any better than I can, so I’m obviously not asking what the wildfire situation will be like in a month...
But if any of you could let me know if, CURRENTLY, there are major difficulties—not just for locals, of course, but for tourists as well?
We’re hesitating between taking the chance or canceling what we still can.
We’re not young anymore and don’t have the flexibility we once did...
A thousand thanks to those of you on the ground or with contacts there who can help us make this decision!
A friend is renting a car for an upcoming trip during the All Saints' holiday.
Nowadays, all rental cars come with GPS, but do you know if you can use it without paying for the GPS rental? I have no idea since I always use my own!
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
We went as a family to Mount Rushmore in 2023, where my son bought a multi-function pocket knife like the one below with his name engraved—'NOAH'.
Unfortunately, he just lost it, and he was really attached to it. So, if there’s a kind soul passing by Mount Rushmore who could bring one back for me (I’d obviously cover all costs), that would be amazing for my son.
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.
We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre.
Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!