Circuit de vingt et un jours dans l'Ouest américain en juin 2011
by Ng63
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour
Je prépare mon séjour de 21 jours avec mon mari en juin 2011 et aimerais avoir votre avis sur le parcours que je prévois, il s'agit de mon premier voyage là bas.
Programme dans ses grandes lignes : arrivée à San Francisco et 2 journées entières (sans voiture)
puis location voiture direction Yellowstone en 2 jours. Visite du parc sur 3 jours avec logement en cabin (ca m'a l'air sympa et plus nature que les hotels ?)
puis un jour ou 2 à Grand Téton, 3 jours entre Moab, Canyonland, Arches, puis route pour le Grand Canyon via Monument Valley
Je souhaite faire l'hélico au grand canyon puis y passer 2 jours à randonner jusqu'en bas du canyon et dormir au phantom ranch, quelqu'un l'a-t-il fait ? j'ai l'habitude de randonner mais cela me semble assez dur quand même ?
Ensuite je prévois une étape d'une après midi et une soirée à Las Végas, on rend la voiture et on loue une moto pour 3 jours autour de Death Valley (furnace creek, kingman ?)
On repars de Las Végas pour Paris.
Si vous avez des conseils à me donner sur cet itinéraire, les lieux...votre expérience me sera utile
je pense passer par une agence pour s'occuper de toutes les réservations, ça me semble trop compliqué vu le nombre d'hotels différents........
j'attends vos conseils !
merci par avance 🙂
Nathalie
Bonjour,
J'ai fait un quasi copier coller de ton futur voyage en Juin 2009.
Concernant les cabins de yellowstone, j'avais posté ça, ça vous donnera un avant goût :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2917511;search_string=cabin%20ouest;
Pour Yellowstone, prévoir des vetements chaud, l'année dernière ça caillait sévère sur la zone, les lacs n'étaient pas dégelés et c'était pour le moins humide. Cette météo ajoute au coté surréaliste de l'endroit mais en contrepartie cela peut quelque peu compliquer la visite si on est pas bien équipé. Les routes en revanches étaient bien dégagées et ne posaient aucun problème.
Pour le reste de ton trajet c'est de l'ultra classique et vous trouverez des kilos tonnes d'infos là dessus sur ce forum.
Entendre encore qu'il vaut mieux passer par une agence pour les hotels est toujours autant une belle connerie.....La toile est un puit sans fond d'offres en tous genres et cela permet en plus de faire de belles économies pour financer d'autres postes du voyage, personnelement j'ai mis 10 mois à monter mon trip mais les économies réalisées grace au net ont financées les deux spectacles que nous avons vu à Vegas.
Franchement ce voyage est une tuerie si il est bien préparé pour ne pas perdre de temps en recherche d'hotels et que le trajet routier est bien organisé.
Pour les parcs je pense que vous avez entendu parler du pass à 80$ qui offre bien des avantages.
Si questions sur un hotel ou autre dont vous avez la liste dans le post mis en référence, je reste à votre disposition.
Bonne prépa.
J'ai fait un quasi copier coller de ton futur voyage en Juin 2009.
Concernant les cabins de yellowstone, j'avais posté ça, ça vous donnera un avant goût :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2917511;search_string=cabin%20ouest;
Pour Yellowstone, prévoir des vetements chaud, l'année dernière ça caillait sévère sur la zone, les lacs n'étaient pas dégelés et c'était pour le moins humide. Cette météo ajoute au coté surréaliste de l'endroit mais en contrepartie cela peut quelque peu compliquer la visite si on est pas bien équipé. Les routes en revanches étaient bien dégagées et ne posaient aucun problème.
Pour le reste de ton trajet c'est de l'ultra classique et vous trouverez des kilos tonnes d'infos là dessus sur ce forum.
Entendre encore qu'il vaut mieux passer par une agence pour les hotels est toujours autant une belle connerie.....La toile est un puit sans fond d'offres en tous genres et cela permet en plus de faire de belles économies pour financer d'autres postes du voyage, personnelement j'ai mis 10 mois à monter mon trip mais les économies réalisées grace au net ont financées les deux spectacles que nous avons vu à Vegas.
Franchement ce voyage est une tuerie si il est bien préparé pour ne pas perdre de temps en recherche d'hotels et que le trajet routier est bien organisé.
Pour les parcs je pense que vous avez entendu parler du pass à 80$ qui offre bien des avantages.
Si questions sur un hotel ou autre dont vous avez la liste dans le post mis en référence, je reste à votre disposition.
Bonne prépa.
Bonsoir,
comme Dominique, je trouve votre ébauche correcte, pas trop "japonaise".
'ai l'habitude de randonner mais cela me semble assez dur quand même ?
Sedonax, grand connaisseur de cette région, l'a fait avec son père (qui est loin d'être un débutant) dans la journée (aller-retour 😉); donc, si vous avez l'habitude de randonner, en 2 jours cela devrait aller (c'est ce que j'ai prévu pour 2012 😎).
on loue une moto pour 3 jours autour de Death Valley
ça existe la clim sur les motos ?
Si vous avez des conseils à me donner sur cet itinéraire, les lieux
D'abord, "visiter" ouestusa.fr où tu trouveras plein d'info. Ensuite, lis les différents carnets de voyage (dont le mien 😎) et tu trouveras d'autres renseignements.
je pense passer par une agence pour s'occuper de toutes les réservations, ça me semble trop compliqué vu le nombre d'hotels différents........
Inutile. D'abord, dans les parcs comme Yellowstone, il faut réserver via Xanterra ; une agence ne t'apportera rien. Idem pour Grand Canyon. Ensuite, réserver le moins possible d'hôtels pour te donner plus de souplesse dans ton circuit. Tu trouveras "toujours" un hôtel.
'ai l'habitude de randonner mais cela me semble assez dur quand même ?
Sedonax, grand connaisseur de cette région, l'a fait avec son père (qui est loin d'être un débutant) dans la journée (aller-retour 😉); donc, si vous avez l'habitude de randonner, en 2 jours cela devrait aller (c'est ce que j'ai prévu pour 2012 😎).
on loue une moto pour 3 jours autour de Death Valley
ça existe la clim sur les motos ?
Si vous avez des conseils à me donner sur cet itinéraire, les lieux
D'abord, "visiter" ouestusa.fr où tu trouveras plein d'info. Ensuite, lis les différents carnets de voyage (dont le mien 😎) et tu trouveras d'autres renseignements.
je pense passer par une agence pour s'occuper de toutes les réservations, ça me semble trop compliqué vu le nombre d'hotels différents........
Inutile. D'abord, dans les parcs comme Yellowstone, il faut réserver via Xanterra ; une agence ne t'apportera rien. Idem pour Grand Canyon. Ensuite, réserver le moins possible d'hôtels pour te donner plus de souplesse dans ton circuit. Tu trouveras "toujours" un hôtel.
Il faut bien te renseigner pour les assurances des motos dans Death Valley.. Eagle rider ne l'interdit pas, mais se décharge de toute responsabilité en cas de problème.. à méditer😛 ce n'est pas pour rien qu'un tel réglement est imposé.. mais si les engins souffrent, les humains dessus...ça risque aussi de faire un peu boboour moi, c'est une bien mauvaise idée🤪😇
3 jours autour de DV?? pour aller où??Kingman n'est pas "autour"😛
Pour le reste ton circuit est un peu flou..temps de route?? temps de visites??? comme ça, ça a l'air de passer, mais si tu le fais au journalier ça reste a voir..
Pourquoi atterir a SF, si c'est pour repartir à Yellowstone deux jours après???? Pourquoi ne pas finir par Yellowstone et repartir de là??
3 jours autour de DV?? pour aller où??Kingman n'est pas "autour"😛
Pour le reste ton circuit est un peu flou..temps de route?? temps de visites??? comme ça, ça a l'air de passer, mais si tu le fais au journalier ça reste a voir..
Pourquoi atterir a SF, si c'est pour repartir à Yellowstone deux jours après???? Pourquoi ne pas finir par Yellowstone et repartir de là??
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Salut
merci à tous pour les conseils, en réponse à tout le monde, j'ai retenu que je ferais des économies sans passer par une agence, je me débrouillerais par internet. Le seul hic est pour la nuit au phantom ranch car je leur ai fait un mail et ils m'ont répondu que les réservations se faisaient uniquement par tél à partir du 1er juin 2010 (pour juin 2011), ne faisant plus d'anglais depuis des années j'ai peur de rien comprendre au tél ! 😊 je tiens absolument à descendre dans le canyon sur 2 jours...
pour la moto, ok je vais changer mon plan de route car j'ai pas envie de "cramer" ! j'avais vu sur une agence qu'il faisait un circuit en moto dans death vallée donc je pensais que c'était faisable.........par contre avez-vous un trajet à me conseiller sur 3 jours maxi au départ de las végas : kingman, seligman ?......
Je ne souhaite pas rentrer en avion de yellowstone car les frais d'abandon de l'auto sont cher dans le wyoming (et gratuit à LV) et l'avion j'ai vu qu'il y avait 2 escales depuis jakson pour paris. Je n'ai pas eu le temps de voir les sites/carnets de tmandarin et isap29 mais je vais y aller ce soir ou demain, ca m'interesse bcp
merci
Nathalie
Si tu repars de SLC, il y a un direct avec AF... les frais d'abandon doivent être de 300 DOLLARS....
si ça te fait gagner du temps (et des sites)... c'est a méditer cos time is money (english lesson one🏴☠️😏😛😛)
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Tmandarin
je viens de voir votre post sur les cabins et j'ai encore plus envie de prendre ce genre de logement ! merci, par contre il faut prévoir le sac de couchage si j'ai bien compris ? on l'achète là bas ou on l'emmène dans la valise ?
par contre avez vous fait un post sur votre itinéraire puisqu'il semble ressembler au mien ? j'aurai aimé lire ce que vous avez fait et vos commentaires
oui je vais prendre le pass pour les parcs
et ok je vais réserver par internet, sans agence ! 😕 lol
bonne soirée et merci
Nathalie
Bonsoir,
Je n'ai eu besoin du sac que j'vais pris avec moi que dans le koa de Moab ou il n'y avait vraiment rien, partout ailleurs ya ce qu'il faut Prévoir les serviettes par contre surtout lorsque les sanitaires ne sont pas dans la cabin (yellow et koa). Nous avions adoré ce type de logement au coeur des parcs, on arrive avant tout le monde et on repart après tout le monde. A yellow on est au pied du old et ya une sacré ballade à faire aux alentours par exemple, quand on l'a fait à 5h30 du matin on était seul en Juin. En plus c'est plus ludique qu'une chambre de motel, on va sur les mini terasses devant sa cahute partager les impressions du jour et les projets du lendemain, on est dans l'ambiance, c'est reposant, nous n'y avons vu que des avantages.
Pour le reste non je n'avais pas fait d'autres post sur mon voyage, il y en a des km sur le site sur ce trajet qui est ultra classique....les nouveaux ne font souvent que répétition. Nous étions parti du 29 mai au 20 Juin, loué un suv, tout réservé par web sauf 2 nuits d'hotel, avons vu 2 spectacles à vegas (copperfield et rêve), fait une multitude de parcs et avons plus que largement amorti le pass....quelques state park aussi mais plus rapidement. Très beau voyage qui nous a couté environ 2500€ par personne. Avons juste eu soucis au retour sur la northwest...surbooking, avons rejoint Paris après un marathon de deux jours en faisant Sfo, Minnéapolis, Atlanta et enfin Paris. Cependant je vais vous surprendre, je suis ok pour que ça m'arrive tous les ans, en effet en dédommagement nous avons reçu deux coupons de 750 dollars chacun, résultat cette année nous avons payé 110€ nos allers retours directs paris miami avec Air France pour le mois de Juin. Très bonne affaire au bout du compte.
Voilà si vous avez d'autres questions je reste à votre dispo.
Je n'ai eu besoin du sac que j'vais pris avec moi que dans le koa de Moab ou il n'y avait vraiment rien, partout ailleurs ya ce qu'il faut Prévoir les serviettes par contre surtout lorsque les sanitaires ne sont pas dans la cabin (yellow et koa). Nous avions adoré ce type de logement au coeur des parcs, on arrive avant tout le monde et on repart après tout le monde. A yellow on est au pied du old et ya une sacré ballade à faire aux alentours par exemple, quand on l'a fait à 5h30 du matin on était seul en Juin. En plus c'est plus ludique qu'une chambre de motel, on va sur les mini terasses devant sa cahute partager les impressions du jour et les projets du lendemain, on est dans l'ambiance, c'est reposant, nous n'y avons vu que des avantages.
Pour le reste non je n'avais pas fait d'autres post sur mon voyage, il y en a des km sur le site sur ce trajet qui est ultra classique....les nouveaux ne font souvent que répétition. Nous étions parti du 29 mai au 20 Juin, loué un suv, tout réservé par web sauf 2 nuits d'hotel, avons vu 2 spectacles à vegas (copperfield et rêve), fait une multitude de parcs et avons plus que largement amorti le pass....quelques state park aussi mais plus rapidement. Très beau voyage qui nous a couté environ 2500€ par personne. Avons juste eu soucis au retour sur la northwest...surbooking, avons rejoint Paris après un marathon de deux jours en faisant Sfo, Minnéapolis, Atlanta et enfin Paris. Cependant je vais vous surprendre, je suis ok pour que ça m'arrive tous les ans, en effet en dédommagement nous avons reçu deux coupons de 750 dollars chacun, résultat cette année nous avons payé 110€ nos allers retours directs paris miami avec Air France pour le mois de Juin. Très bonne affaire au bout du compte.
Voilà si vous avez d'autres questions je reste à votre dispo.
Dommm063 : merci pour le site road trippin, je l'avais repérer au début de mes recherches mais je n'y était pas retourné, c'est vrai qu'il y a plein d'infos utiles.....
décidement je trouve bcp d'auvergnat sur ce forum....
FabienneCA : j'ai regardé mon itinéraire et celui que tu me conseilles en repartant de SLC : il n'y a qu'une différence d'environ 200 kms de moins mais l'avion est plus cher de SLC + les frais d'abandon de 300 $, donc je vais garder mon choix initial (sauf death valley !), merci quand même !
Tmandarin : merci pour toutes les infos sur les cabins, c'est décidé je prendrai sçette formule au maximum.....je vois que votre budget a été exactement celui que j'ai "estimé", ca me rassure ! Vraiment cool l'aller retour à Miami à ce prix ! moi aussi je veux bien avoir un problème de surbooking !
Isap29 : je n'ai pas encore eu le temps d'aller voir votre carnet de voyage, arf je vais me dépècher d'y aller !
à + 😉🙂
FabienneCA : j'ai regardé mon itinéraire et celui que tu me conseilles en repartant de SLC : il n'y a qu'une différence d'environ 200 kms de moins mais l'avion est plus cher de SLC + les frais d'abandon de 300 $, donc je vais garder mon choix initial (sauf death valley !), merci quand même !
Tmandarin : merci pour toutes les infos sur les cabins, c'est décidé je prendrai sçette formule au maximum.....je vois que votre budget a été exactement celui que j'ai "estimé", ca me rassure ! Vraiment cool l'aller retour à Miami à ce prix ! moi aussi je veux bien avoir un problème de surbooking !
Isap29 : je n'ai pas encore eu le temps d'aller voir votre carnet de voyage, arf je vais me dépècher d'y aller !
à + 😉🙂
Nathalie
attention , début juin à yellowstone= possibilité de froid et neige, je vais en juin du 8 au 28 aussi dans l'ouest américain et au vu des conseils du forum, j'ai programmé yellowstone à la fin du circuit....
s'il n'est pas trop tard....
(arrivée à SFO et retour par SLC)
tout est provisoire...
merci pour tes conseils mais finalement c'est en sept 2011 que j'y vais, j'ai du changer la date depuis mon post...
on part du 01 au 22 sept, arrivée à SFO et retour par billings, on va faire un peu le même trajet que toi, mais plus tard !
je lis énormément sur ce forum afin de construire ce projet (qui n'est pas fini) et j'en profites pour remercier tout ceux qui y contribuent et qui nous font réver 🙂
j'ai hate d'y être !
bonne prépa
Nathalie
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!