Une journée pour faire Bryce Canyon-Moab (Utah) par la BW12?
by Cathour
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
toujours en préparation de mon circuit pour octobre 2007.
J'ai prévu une journée pour faire Bryce (Tropic, voire Escalante si la veille on "finit" Bryce pas trop tard) - Moab.
C'est un peu court mais il faut faire des choix et je n'ai que 17 jours...
Comment optimiser au mieux cette journée, il y a tant de choses qui donnent envie sur cette portion...
Traverser Capitol Reef en s'arrêtant juste aux points de vue + Goblin Valley State Park et Little Horse Canyon + trajet : est-ce que c'est possible ?
Sachant que fin octobre le soleil se lève à 7h et se couche vers 17h30 ...
Merci pour vos réponses
J'y suis retourné le mois dernier sur 3 jours rien que pour cette portion donc effectivement y'a tant à voir que c'est impossible de s'arrêter partout sur 1 journée.
Si tu pars de Bryce, moi je ferais tout de suite Kodachrome Basin Park ainsi tu pourras en profiter aux meilleures heures. Compter 3h00 avec au moins 1 randonnée ( Pas de 4x4 nécessaire )
Ensuite la route c'est que du grand spectacle jusqu'à Boulder où on rentre dans de la forêt moins spectaculaire. Etant donné le trajet restant, tu aurais encore 1 truc à faire qui pourrait être :
Burr Trail au départ de Boulder : juste la partie Long Canyon goudronnée en 2h00 AR Scenic Drive dans Capitol Reef : Là aussi 2h00 AR en voiture jusqu'à Capitol Gorge ( 5$ en + du Pass ) Goblin : J'ai été moins emballé que les 2 précédents et tu y seras pas à la bonne heure.
Si tu pars de Bryce, moi je ferais tout de suite Kodachrome Basin Park ainsi tu pourras en profiter aux meilleures heures. Compter 3h00 avec au moins 1 randonnée ( Pas de 4x4 nécessaire )
Ensuite la route c'est que du grand spectacle jusqu'à Boulder où on rentre dans de la forêt moins spectaculaire. Etant donné le trajet restant, tu aurais encore 1 truc à faire qui pourrait être :
Burr Trail au départ de Boulder : juste la partie Long Canyon goudronnée en 2h00 AR Scenic Drive dans Capitol Reef : Là aussi 2h00 AR en voiture jusqu'à Capitol Gorge ( 5$ en + du Pass ) Goblin : J'ai été moins emballé que les 2 précédents et tu y seras pas à la bonne heure.
Tous mes voyages sur : http://www.vazyvite.com/
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Bonjour,
Moi, je vais faire cette route mais dans le sens inverse. Je pars le matin de très bonne heure de Moab pour aller sur Bryce. Je ne sais pas trop comment faire cette route : prendre l'autoroute pour arriver le plus rapidement possible à Bryce ou se prendre plus le temps passer par Capitol Reef, Kodachrome Basin Park... J'ai un peu de mal à me faire une idée du temps que ca va prendre, sans compter les temps d'arret...
Est ce que tu connais le temps de route en passant par ces petites routes ? Qu'est ce que tu me conseillerais ? Je suis completement dans le flou sur cette partie
Moi, je vais faire cette route mais dans le sens inverse. Je pars le matin de très bonne heure de Moab pour aller sur Bryce. Je ne sais pas trop comment faire cette route : prendre l'autoroute pour arriver le plus rapidement possible à Bryce ou se prendre plus le temps passer par Capitol Reef, Kodachrome Basin Park... J'ai un peu de mal à me faire une idée du temps que ca va prendre, sans compter les temps d'arret...
Est ce que tu connais le temps de route en passant par ces petites routes ? Qu'est ce que tu me conseillerais ? Je suis completement dans le flou sur cette partie
En ce qui me concerne, j'aurai passé la journée précédente entière à Bryce (que je connais déjà) et je passe ensuite 2 jours entiers à Moab donc ma journée est entièrement consacrée à cette portion et je trouverai dommage de passer par l'autoroute, surtout avec tous les commentaires que j'ai lu sur le scénic 12.
google maps donne environ 6 h pour Bryce-Moab par la 24 et la 12 mais c'est sans les arrêts et toujours un peu sous-évalué. C'est ma plus grosse journée de route et je voudrais la couper au mieux et trouver des endroits pour se dégourdir les pattes.
Merci à Vazyvite pour sa réponse J'avais pensé à Goblin valley state park car cela me semblait différent et qu'on pouvait s'y promener à pied. je pars avec mes enfants et déjà 6 heures de route....c'est aussi pour cela que j'avais éliminé la scenic drive de capitol reef.
Merci à Vazyvite pour sa réponse J'avais pensé à Goblin valley state park car cela me semblait différent et qu'on pouvait s'y promener à pied. je pars avec mes enfants et déjà 6 heures de route....c'est aussi pour cela que j'avais éliminé la scenic drive de capitol reef.
Ce ne sont pas non plus des chemins de campagne. Jusqu'à Capitol Reef, on roule à 65miles/h en 3h00 environ de Moab. Cette partie, la US 24 n'offre pas grand chose sauf le Goblin Park .
Ensuite c'est toujours de la route normale mais c'est le panorama qui te fait ralentir 😛
Au total, on met environ 6h00 jusqu'à Bryce ( en comptant un pique-nique ) sans faire de visite en gros ... donc pas un gain incontournable par rapport à l'autoroute.
Dans tous les cas, la Scenic 12 offre des paysages fabuleux entre Boulder et Bryce même sans en sortir donc le choix est vite fait de choisir cet itinéraire, sans compter la simple traversée de Capitol Reef qui est aussi magnifique. Maintenant, il y a les 4 possibilités, entre autres, que j'ai cité précédemment et qui prennent chacun 2h00 mini. Mon préféré reste Kodachrome qu'il faut faire en début ou fin de journée pour la lumière ... et la chaleur en été si on veut faire un des trails. Ensuite Burr Trail à Boulder ( juste sur la 1ère partie ) et la Scenic Drive de Capitol Reef juste un chouia derrière 😛 Goblin Park est original effectivement mais j'ai moins accroché, si je devais faire un classement 😇
Donc on va dire un gros 10h00 avec 2 de ces stop ce qui peut te faire un 17h00 à ton motel si tu pars avant 7h00 de Moab. Kodachrome étant juste avant Bryce, ça te permet d'ajuster le temps de visite sur place pour en profiter un peu + 😎
Dans tous les cas, la Scenic 12 offre des paysages fabuleux entre Boulder et Bryce même sans en sortir donc le choix est vite fait de choisir cet itinéraire, sans compter la simple traversée de Capitol Reef qui est aussi magnifique. Maintenant, il y a les 4 possibilités, entre autres, que j'ai cité précédemment et qui prennent chacun 2h00 mini. Mon préféré reste Kodachrome qu'il faut faire en début ou fin de journée pour la lumière ... et la chaleur en été si on veut faire un des trails. Ensuite Burr Trail à Boulder ( juste sur la 1ère partie ) et la Scenic Drive de Capitol Reef juste un chouia derrière 😛 Goblin Park est original effectivement mais j'ai moins accroché, si je devais faire un classement 😇
Donc on va dire un gros 10h00 avec 2 de ces stop ce qui peut te faire un 17h00 à ton motel si tu pars avant 7h00 de Moab. Kodachrome étant juste avant Bryce, ça te permet d'ajuster le temps de visite sur place pour en profiter un peu + 😎
Tous mes voyages sur : http://www.vazyvite.com/
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
C'est vrai que tu pars en Octobre donc Goblin dans l'APM sera moins pénible qu'en été à cause de la chaleur et c'est sûr que ce sera + fun pour les enfants 😎
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Effectivement, j'ai plus peur de la neige que de la chaleur 🙂
Les temps de trajet que tu as donné à CarineLV me rassurent, même si les journées sont plutôt courtes à cette période (02 novembre pour cette journée). D'ailleurs, est-ce que la BW 12 peut être fermée début novembre (où trouver cette info)? Je serai vraiment décue de devoir passer par l'I-70 .
Est-ce que tu t'es arrêté à Escalante Petrified forest et à Anasazi State Park museum, toujours dans l'optique de faire des arrêts intéressants pour les enfants (12, 10, 6 ans), pas trop longs, qui dérouillent les guibolles, qui coupent la route et qui changent un peu des paysages "classiques" de l'ouest, histoire de pas les lasser (ça s'appelle le beurre, l'argent du beurre et la fille de la crémière 🤪) ?
Pour ceux que ça intéresse un PDF qui décrit les stops principaux de la BW 12 www.brycecanyoncountry.com/county/drives.htm et aussi www.scenicbyway12.com
Est-ce que tu t'es arrêté à Escalante Petrified forest et à Anasazi State Park museum, toujours dans l'optique de faire des arrêts intéressants pour les enfants (12, 10, 6 ans), pas trop longs, qui dérouillent les guibolles, qui coupent la route et qui changent un peu des paysages "classiques" de l'ouest, histoire de pas les lasser (ça s'appelle le beurre, l'argent du beurre et la fille de la crémière 🤪) ?
Pour ceux que ça intéresse un PDF qui décrit les stops principaux de la BW 12 www.brycecanyoncountry.com/county/drives.htm et aussi www.scenicbyway12.com
La neige est pas impossible mais ça reste une route "normale" et pas un accès dans un parc ou un col donc avec la DDE locale sans doute 😎
Tu verras assez vite l'état du coin ne serait-ce qu'à la TV !
Pas fait les 2 arrêts cités
Pas fait les 2 arrêts cités
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Bonjour Carine,
Misère de misère ! Faire le trajet Moab-Bryce et en plus visiter Bryce, tout ça en un jour ? 😠😠😠😠 Même un car de Japonais n'y arriverait pas ! Et pourtant ils sont entrainés ! Avec tout ce que t'a indiqué Jean-Luc (ce à quoi je souscris totalement), il faut 2 jours pour le trajet seulement, car en plus il faut un jour plein pour Bryce. Si tu envisages "sereinement" de faire des centaines de km par autoroute, reste en Europe, tu économiseras plein de sous 😛😛😛😛
Misère de misère ! Faire le trajet Moab-Bryce et en plus visiter Bryce, tout ça en un jour ? 😠😠😠😠 Même un car de Japonais n'y arriverait pas ! Et pourtant ils sont entrainés ! Avec tout ce que t'a indiqué Jean-Luc (ce à quoi je souscris totalement), il faut 2 jours pour le trajet seulement, car en plus il faut un jour plein pour Bryce. Si tu envisages "sereinement" de faire des centaines de km par autoroute, reste en Europe, tu économiseras plein de sous 😛😛😛😛
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Ohh ohhh stop les jugements à 2 balles !
Si je viens ici c'est pour avoir des avis et des renseignements, pas des jugements !
Tout le monde ne peut pas avoir 4 semaines de vacances en été...
De plus que ton jugement est injustifiés, car cette route est faisable, sans faire Capitol Reef (qui d'apres d'autre forum n'est pas le plus indispensable dans ce coin la...), mes parents l'ont fait et bien apprécié cette route !
Ah si papa l'a fait alors je n'ai plus rien à dire !
Essaie d'avoir un peu plus le sens de l'humour ! ça peut être utile !
Essaie d'avoir un peu plus le sens de l'humour ! ça peut être utile !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Si je viens ici c'est pour avoir des avis et des renseignements, pas des jugements !
De plus que ton jugement est injustifiés, car cette route est faisable, sans faire Capitol Reef (qui d'apres d'autre forum n'est pas le plus indispensable dans ce coin la...), mes parents l'ont fait et bien apprécié cette route !
Bonjour, Mon avis, c'est que dans ce coin là, le plus indispensable, c'est Bryce Canyon et que ça vaut bien un jour plein. Pour moi, mais je n'ai pas fait Burr Trail, ni Goblin, ni Kodachrome, Capitol Reef vient juste après en 2ème position et avant Zion. Il y a peut-être moyen de gagner quelques heures là, en consacrant un peu plus d'une journée à Moab - Bryce et un peu moins de temps à Bryce -Zion-Las Vegas. Zion se visite assez vite. Bon voyage
Bonjour, Mon avis, c'est que dans ce coin là, le plus indispensable, c'est Bryce Canyon et que ça vaut bien un jour plein. Pour moi, mais je n'ai pas fait Burr Trail, ni Goblin, ni Kodachrome, Capitol Reef vient juste après en 2ème position et avant Zion. Il y a peut-être moyen de gagner quelques heures là, en consacrant un peu plus d'une journée à Moab - Bryce et un peu moins de temps à Bryce -Zion-Las Vegas. Zion se visite assez vite. Bon voyage
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Capitol Reef est en fait l'un des plus beaux parcs de l'ouest. Mais il ne se donne pas au premier venu et si on se contente de faire la scenic road, ce n'est pas très spectaculaire.
De plus il y a vraiment peu de monde dans ce coin la, ce qui rend ce parc encore plus intéressant.
Capitol Reef est en fait l'un des plus beaux parcs de l'ouest. Mais il ne se donne pas au premier venu et si on se contente de faire la scenic road, ce n'est pas très spectaculaire.
De plus il y a vraiment peu de monde dans ce coin la, ce qui rend ce parc encore plus intéressant.
Bonjour
Bryce canyon est très grand ou plutot très haut, en mai nous avons eu de la neige sur le sommet si le temps est clair cela vaut le cout d'aller j'usqu'a la pointe mais franchement quand je regarde mes photos les paysages sont magnifiques on peut faire tout en voiture contrairement à zion ou pour une visite il faut prendre les navettes de bus. Dans tout les cas il faut prendre sont temps et faire des priorité on ne peu pas tout voir en 15 jours
bon séjour
Bryce canyon est très grand ou plutot très haut, en mai nous avons eu de la neige sur le sommet si le temps est clair cela vaut le cout d'aller j'usqu'a la pointe mais franchement quand je regarde mes photos les paysages sont magnifiques on peut faire tout en voiture contrairement à zion ou pour une visite il faut prendre les navettes de bus. Dans tout les cas il faut prendre sont temps et faire des priorité on ne peu pas tout voir en 15 jours
bon séjour
Jean-Marie
Merci, mais je prends mon temps : j'ai une journée pour Bryce et une journée pour Bryce-Moab. C'est CarineLV qui veut tout faire en 1 jour.
C'est ma 2ème journée qui est un peu juste et que j'aurai voulu optmiser au mieux en choisissant quoi visiter !
Merci à tous pour vos réponses en tout cas et si quelqu'un a fait Anasazi Park museum et Escalante pétrified Forest, je suis toujours intéressée par des avis...
Bonjour cathour,
Si c'est bien du Musée des Anasazi au tout petit village de Boulder dont tu parles, OUI, j'ai bien aimé cet arrêt, assez intéressant. Bien sur si on fait Mesa Verde dans le même circuit, on trouvera Boulder un peu "plat".
Pour Escalante Petrified Forest : je dois l'avoir raté ! damned 😊😊😊😊😊
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
C'est bien celui-là, et comme on ne fera ni mesa verde, ni le canyon de chelly, trop excentrés par rapport à notre circuit, je pense que cet arrêt peut être sympa.
j'ai retrouvé le post qui parle de mocki dugway (cette fois c'est le bon nom !) Il est du 6/02/2007 "Intérêt de valley of the gods" - je sais pas pourquoi mais je n'arrive pas à copier le lien
j'ai retrouvé le post qui parle de mocki dugway (cette fois c'est le bon nom !) Il est du 6/02/2007 "Intérêt de valley of the gods" - je sais pas pourquoi mais je n'arrive pas à copier le lien
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!