L'Ouest américain en douze jours
by Kacem75011
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour
je voudrais effectuer avec ma femme un voyage de 12 jours et découvrir un maximum de choses
je m'y prend très tardivement je voudrais offrir ce voyage à ma femme pour son anniversaire le 29 mars
la ville d'arrivée est san francisco la ville de départ las vegas ou los angeles (je n'ai pas encore pris les billets)
quelqu'un a t'il déjà un circuit à me proposer sachant que je louerai une voiture sur place
toutes les suggestions sont les bienvenues
san francisco
los angeles
sandiego
las vegas
Bonjour Kacem,
Avant de te donner un itinéraire, peux-tu nous dire ce que tu attends de ton voyage. Découverte de grandes villes ou de grands espaces ? Du repos ou la fête ? Quelque chose de romantique ou de s'en prendre plein les yeux (ou les deux) ?
Regarde du côté de la Pacific 1, de Death Valley et Yosemite ce sont des choses à faire et qui prennent du temps en Californie et ça vaut vraiment le coup !
Personnellement je n'irai pas jusque San Diego pour si peu de jours.
Romain
Avant de te donner un itinéraire, peux-tu nous dire ce que tu attends de ton voyage. Découverte de grandes villes ou de grands espaces ? Du repos ou la fête ? Quelque chose de romantique ou de s'en prendre plein les yeux (ou les deux) ?
Regarde du côté de la Pacific 1, de Death Valley et Yosemite ce sont des choses à faire et qui prennent du temps en Californie et ça vaut vraiment le coup !
Personnellement je n'irai pas jusque San Diego pour si peu de jours.
Romain
merci romain pour ta reponse rapide
on oublie san diego quoi que je voulai voir sea world et legoland
je voudrai surtout voir les grands espaces et eventuellement un tour sommaire des villes
Repos non beaucoup plus fetes
bonjour
Alors un voyage de 12 jours alliant grands espaces et fêtes .....🙂
Alors personnellement je te dirais de zapper los angeles ....tu peux arriver par san francisco (y faire un peu la fête) puis partir par yosemite, puis death valley ....là c'est pour les grands espaces. Apres death valley eventuellement tu peux faire escale a las vegas pour y passer la soiree ...puis le lendemain partir faire la boucle las vegas_zion_bryce_puis directement grand canyon puis retour las vegas ...et fête !😉
Si tu as du temps entre bryce et grand canyon un detour par monument valley .....mais cela raccourcira ton sejour a las vegas pour la fete ....a toi de voir
J'ai zappé los angeles dans ce circuit car franchement entre san francisco et los angeles y a pas photo ....san francisco merite plus !
en 12 jours ce doit etre possible ....meme si c'est rapide mais possible.
bonne preparation😉
Alors personnellement je te dirais de zapper los angeles ....tu peux arriver par san francisco (y faire un peu la fête) puis partir par yosemite, puis death valley ....là c'est pour les grands espaces. Apres death valley eventuellement tu peux faire escale a las vegas pour y passer la soiree ...puis le lendemain partir faire la boucle las vegas_zion_bryce_puis directement grand canyon puis retour las vegas ...et fête !😉
Si tu as du temps entre bryce et grand canyon un detour par monument valley .....mais cela raccourcira ton sejour a las vegas pour la fete ....a toi de voir
J'ai zappé los angeles dans ce circuit car franchement entre san francisco et los angeles y a pas photo ....san francisco merite plus !
en 12 jours ce doit etre possible ....meme si c'est rapide mais possible.
bonne preparation😉
Mes photos de voyages: http://picasaweb.google.fr/hawkesbury.19
bonsoir
heureusement que tu as zappé LA
Envoyé quelqu'un sur Yosemite en mars avec si peu de temps ... tu le fais passer par où.
Je me contenterai de San Francisco, remontée sur LA, puis Las Vegas, Grand Canyon et peut-être Monument Valley et repartir par Phoenix. Comme j'aime San Francisco, j'y resterais 3/4 jours cela dépend de l'heure d'arrivée dans cette ville.
Itat et les autres, spécialistes des circuits sympa viendront sans doute leur donner de judicieux conseils.
Revil
heureusement que tu as zappé LA
Envoyé quelqu'un sur Yosemite en mars avec si peu de temps ... tu le fais passer par où.
Je me contenterai de San Francisco, remontée sur LA, puis Las Vegas, Grand Canyon et peut-être Monument Valley et repartir par Phoenix. Comme j'aime San Francisco, j'y resterais 3/4 jours cela dépend de l'heure d'arrivée dans cette ville.
Itat et les autres, spécialistes des circuits sympa viendront sans doute leur donner de judicieux conseils.
Revil
Je vais te proposer une alternative sous forme de Boucle:
Arrivée San Francisco
Pacific 1
Los Angeles
Route 66 jusque Vegas
Las Vegas
Death Valley
Yosemite
Retour San Francisco
Tu pourras avoir un bref aperçu de ces grandes villes qui sont à faire si tu veux t'amuser et découvrir des grands espaces, vivre un moment inoubliable le long de la pacific 1 et t'en prendre plein les yeux avec un sunlight à death valley. Je pense que ce parcours est déjà très dense ! Dommage que tes 12 jours ne soient pas extensibles !
Romain
Tu pourras avoir un bref aperçu de ces grandes villes qui sont à faire si tu veux t'amuser et découvrir des grands espaces, vivre un moment inoubliable le long de la pacific 1 et t'en prendre plein les yeux avec un sunlight à death valley. Je pense que ce parcours est déjà très dense ! Dommage que tes 12 jours ne soient pas extensibles !
Romain
Bonsoir,
si tu es plutôt ville, ton circuit est bien.
n'oublie pas de faire l'esta à temps, il semble que ces derniers temps, on n'ait pas la réponse tout de suite.
si depuis Las Vegas tu veux faire soit Death Valley ou/et Grand Canyon, tu peux également les inclure.
Regarde Google map pour les distances.
Revil
si tu es plutôt ville, ton circuit est bien.
n'oublie pas de faire l'esta à temps, il semble que ces derniers temps, on n'ait pas la réponse tout de suite.
si depuis Las Vegas tu veux faire soit Death Valley ou/et Grand Canyon, tu peux également les inclure.
Regarde Google map pour les distances.
Revil
Envoyé quelqu'un sur Yosemite en mars avec si peu de temps ... tu le fais passer par où.
Au fait le départ est pour le 29/3 ou plus tard ?
Au fait le départ est pour le 29/3 ou plus tard ?
le depart est pour le 27/03/2012
j'ai dejà fait l'esta
dur dur pour faire un circuit top en si peu de jours
je vous remercie tous pour votre contribution et pour votre aide
donc san diego definitivement zappeé
Bonsoir,
Death Valley - Yosemite fin mars, Tioga pass sera sûrement fermé, donc un détour à prévoir, sur 12 jours est-ce bien raisonnable ?
si on compte 3 jours San Francisco, 2/3 jours pour la Pacific 1 (attention aux travaux, voir si elle est bien ouverte sur toute sa longueur !), il ne reste pas grand chose, 12 jours est-ce bien 12 nuits sur place ou 12 jours avec le voyage ?
Revil
Death Valley - Yosemite fin mars, Tioga pass sera sûrement fermé, donc un détour à prévoir, sur 12 jours est-ce bien raisonnable ?
si on compte 3 jours San Francisco, 2/3 jours pour la Pacific 1 (attention aux travaux, voir si elle est bien ouverte sur toute sa longueur !), il ne reste pas grand chose, 12 jours est-ce bien 12 nuits sur place ou 12 jours avec le voyage ?
Revil
12 nuits sur place
Hello,
Je partage l'avis de Revil pour Yosemite.
Faire un trajet avec point de départ Los Angeles et point d'arrivée San Francisco (ou le contraire)...
Consacré 3 nuits à L.A. et San Francisco.
Exemple:Los Angeles (3 nuits)Phoenix (1 nuit)Grand Canyon (1 nuit) Bryce Canyon (1 nuit)Las Vegas (2 nuits)Death Valley (1 nuit)san Francisco (3 nuits)Il est possible aussi de faire le trajet Los Angeles - Grand Canyon en une journée puisqu'il faut compter environ 7h de route.
A + 😎
Je partage l'avis de Revil pour Yosemite.
Faire un trajet avec point de départ Los Angeles et point d'arrivée San Francisco (ou le contraire)...
Consacré 3 nuits à L.A. et San Francisco.
Exemple:Los Angeles (3 nuits)Phoenix (1 nuit)Grand Canyon (1 nuit) Bryce Canyon (1 nuit)Las Vegas (2 nuits)Death Valley (1 nuit)san Francisco (3 nuits)Il est possible aussi de faire le trajet Los Angeles - Grand Canyon en une journée puisqu'il faut compter environ 7h de route.
A + 😎
RV (Bluesjake)
I love L.A.
I love L.A.
Tu nous donnes de sages conseils Revil !
Dans ce cas là, nous pouvons imaginer :
SAN FRANCISCO
PACIFIC 1
LA (MALIBU, VENICE, SANTA MONICA)
DEATH VALLEY
LAS VEGAS
ou
SAN FRANCISCO PACIFIC 1 LA ... LAS VEGAS (via Route 66) VALLEY OF FIRE LAS VEGAS
Mais ne t'inquiètes pas, ici tu trouveras tous les conseils pour passer de superbes vacances et te motiver à revenir bientôt aux USA !
ou
SAN FRANCISCO PACIFIC 1 LA ... LAS VEGAS (via Route 66) VALLEY OF FIRE LAS VEGAS
Mais ne t'inquiètes pas, ici tu trouveras tous les conseils pour passer de superbes vacances et te motiver à revenir bientôt aux USA !
Bonsoir,
Valley of Fire, c'est tout près de Vegas, donc vous pourriez le faire en partant tôt le matin et revenir sur Vegas pour passer l'après-midi et la soirée. Attention les vendredi et samedi soirs les hôtels sont plus chers, à vous, si vous le pouvez d'éviter ces deux nuits.
Je ne suis pas partial, car contrairement à beaucoup de membres VF, j'aime Vegas et j'y reste chaque fois 3/4 jours, mais avec plus de temps que vous devant moi.
Calculez les kms que vous allez faire, les jours sont courts à cette période !
Revil
Valley of Fire, c'est tout près de Vegas, donc vous pourriez le faire en partant tôt le matin et revenir sur Vegas pour passer l'après-midi et la soirée. Attention les vendredi et samedi soirs les hôtels sont plus chers, à vous, si vous le pouvez d'éviter ces deux nuits.
Je ne suis pas partial, car contrairement à beaucoup de membres VF, j'aime Vegas et j'y reste chaque fois 3/4 jours, mais avec plus de temps que vous devant moi.
Calculez les kms que vous allez faire, les jours sont courts à cette période !
Revil
Salut
Exemple de circuit qui prend en compte le fait que la Tioga Pass est fermée à Yosemite.
J1: arrivée à SF J2: SF J3: SF J4: SF - Monterey J5: Monterey - Santa Barbara J6: Santa Barbara - LA J7: LA J8: LA J9: LA - Death Valley J10: Death Valley - Vegas J11: Vegas J12: Vegas (Visite de Valley Of Fire) J13: Départ de Vegas
Ma préférence va à ce circuit, et correspond mieux à l'envie de grands espaces:
J1: arrivée à LA J2: LA J3: LA J4: LA - Death Valley J5: Death Valley - Las Vegas J6: Las Vegas J7: Las Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Bryce J8: Bryce J9: Bryce - Page J10: Page - Monument Valley J11: Monument Valley - Grand Canyon J12: Grand Canyon - Phoenix J13: Départ de Phoenix
Exemple de circuit qui prend en compte le fait que la Tioga Pass est fermée à Yosemite.
J1: arrivée à SF J2: SF J3: SF J4: SF - Monterey J5: Monterey - Santa Barbara J6: Santa Barbara - LA J7: LA J8: LA J9: LA - Death Valley J10: Death Valley - Vegas J11: Vegas J12: Vegas (Visite de Valley Of Fire) J13: Départ de Vegas
Ma préférence va à ce circuit, et correspond mieux à l'envie de grands espaces:
J1: arrivée à LA J2: LA J3: LA J4: LA - Death Valley J5: Death Valley - Las Vegas J6: Las Vegas J7: Las Vegas - Valley Of Fire - Zion - Bryce J8: Bryce J9: Bryce - Page J10: Page - Monument Valley J11: Monument Valley - Grand Canyon J12: Grand Canyon - Phoenix J13: Départ de Phoenix
en effet .....vu comme ça !!! je pensais que mars c'etait la date du cadeau .....pour un voyage cet été ......pas que le voyage se faisais en mars !!!!!!!🤪
ben ....dans ce cas là .....SF _ los angeles c'est quasiment obligatoire ......
ben ....dans ce cas là .....SF _ los angeles c'est quasiment obligatoire ......
Mes photos de voyages: http://picasaweb.google.fr/hawkesbury.19
bonjour
Avec ton 2e circuit tu les envoies dans les parcs (Bryce à cette époque, il fait froid), ce qui est bien pour quelqu'un qui en est à son ènième voyage dans l'ouest. Par contre j'adhère à un départ Phoenix pour faire un saut au Grand Canyon
Si c'est leur premier séjour et qu'ils ont envie de voir des villes (San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas), cela n'est pas compatible d'aller à Bryce.
Pour le premier circuit, l'étape Monterey n'est valable que s'ils partent tard de San Francisco et que l'aquarium est à leur programme (voir également l'état de la route 1).
Qu'ils nous fassent déjà leur circuit et on verra si les cracks de VF (dont je ne suis pas) peuvent l'améliorer en tenant compte de leurs désirs.
Avec ton 2e circuit tu les envoies dans les parcs (Bryce à cette époque, il fait froid), ce qui est bien pour quelqu'un qui en est à son ènième voyage dans l'ouest. Par contre j'adhère à un départ Phoenix pour faire un saut au Grand Canyon
Si c'est leur premier séjour et qu'ils ont envie de voir des villes (San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas), cela n'est pas compatible d'aller à Bryce.
Pour le premier circuit, l'étape Monterey n'est valable que s'ils partent tard de San Francisco et que l'aquarium est à leur programme (voir également l'état de la route 1).
Qu'ils nous fassent déjà leur circuit et on verra si les cracks de VF (dont je ne suis pas) peuvent l'améliorer en tenant compte de leurs désirs.
Hello
Avec ton 2e circuit tu les envoies dans les parcs (Bryce à cette époque, il fait froid)
Oui en effet, mais les routes sont en général bien dégagées, donc s'ils se couvrent bien, il n'y aura normalement pas de soucis.
Si c'est leur premier séjour et qu'ils ont envie de voir des villes (San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas)
Je crois qu'ils veulent aller voir les "grands espaces".
Mais effectivement en si peu de jours faudra faire le choix entre le circuit des villes ou le circuit des parcs de l'Utah et de l'Arizona 😉
Qu'ils nous fassent déjà leur circuit
Ils ne leur restent plus beaucoup de temps pour cela! 😕
@++
Avec ton 2e circuit tu les envoies dans les parcs (Bryce à cette époque, il fait froid)
Oui en effet, mais les routes sont en général bien dégagées, donc s'ils se couvrent bien, il n'y aura normalement pas de soucis.
Si c'est leur premier séjour et qu'ils ont envie de voir des villes (San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas)
Je crois qu'ils veulent aller voir les "grands espaces".
Mais effectivement en si peu de jours faudra faire le choix entre le circuit des villes ou le circuit des parcs de l'Utah et de l'Arizona 😉
Qu'ils nous fassent déjà leur circuit
Ils ne leur restent plus beaucoup de temps pour cela! 😕
@++
coucou
Regarde le post de Lydia (section formalités administratives) elle est actuellement à Bryce - 17, elle a mis une photo ...
Grands espaces, je ne sais pas, on a tendance à oublier que pour certains c'est leur 1er voyage dans l'ouest, mais avec SF - LA - LV au programme, 12 jours passent vite.
Départ le 27, donc une bonne quinzaine pour établir un circuit cela devrait suffir.
Bonne journée
Revil
Regarde le post de Lydia (section formalités administratives) elle est actuellement à Bryce - 17, elle a mis une photo ...
Grands espaces, je ne sais pas, on a tendance à oublier que pour certains c'est leur 1er voyage dans l'ouest, mais avec SF - LA - LV au programme, 12 jours passent vite.
Départ le 27, donc une bonne quinzaine pour établir un circuit cela devrait suffir.
Bonne journée
Revil
Hello
En fait c'est pour cette phrase que je dis que je préfère et que je leur conseille le deuxième circuit:
je voudrai surtout voir les grands espaces et eventuellement un tour sommaire des villes
Le problème de SF c'est que c'est excentré par rapport aux parcs et sur 12 jours s'ils font SF, ils ne pourront pas faire beaucoup de parcs.
Regarde le post de Lydia (section formalités administratives) elle est actuellement à Bryce - 17, elle a mis une photo ...
D'ici fin mars ça peut changer 😛, ils peuvent avoir de la neige, comme un temps assez doux.
Départ le 27, donc une bonne quinzaine pour établir un circuit cela devrait suffir.
je le leur souhaite 😉
Bonne journée 🙂
En fait c'est pour cette phrase que je dis que je préfère et que je leur conseille le deuxième circuit:
je voudrai surtout voir les grands espaces et eventuellement un tour sommaire des villes
Le problème de SF c'est que c'est excentré par rapport aux parcs et sur 12 jours s'ils font SF, ils ne pourront pas faire beaucoup de parcs.
Regarde le post de Lydia (section formalités administratives) elle est actuellement à Bryce - 17, elle a mis une photo ...
D'ici fin mars ça peut changer 😛, ils peuvent avoir de la neige, comme un temps assez doux.
Départ le 27, donc une bonne quinzaine pour établir un circuit cela devrait suffir.
je le leur souhaite 😉
Bonne journée 🙂
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan




