Nous partons cet été pour la première fois dans l'ouest américain avec nos 2 enfants de 8 et 10 ans.
Nous avons déjà nos billets d'avion arrivée et départ de LA.
Voici le parcours que nous avons imaginé en suivant déjà les conseils du forum.
Jour 1 : arrivée LA fin de journée
Jour 2 : LA Las vegas
Jour 3 : Las Vegas : soirée Cirque du Soleil?
Jour 4 : LV - Gd Canyon : question : en partant vers 8h, qu'a t'on le temps de voir et faire à Grand Canyon?
Jour 5 : Gd Canyon - Page : survol hélico le matin puis route vers page. Arrêt à Horseshoe?
Jour 6 : Page repos autour du lac : soit crique tranquille soit location bateau mais ça semble très cher
Jour 7 : Page-Antelope (vers 11h) (faut il faire les 2?) puis monument valley. Aura t'on le temps de faire scenic drive à MV? Nuit à Bluff.
Jour 8 : Bluff (retour vers MV si pas eu le temps de faire le scenic drive) puis Moab
Jour 9 : Moab : canyonlands
Jour 10 : Moab : Arches
Jour 11 : Moab-route vers Bryce en prenant le temps sur la route de Capitol reef. Où dormir? Rubys Inn?
Jour 12 : Bryce (rando tranquille) puis route vers Zion
Jour 13 : Zion pour la journée et route le soir sur LV comme étape. Faisable?
Jour 14 : LV- Death Valley. Nuit à Furnace creek ranch
Jour 15 : Death valley - lee vining. Bodie dans la même journée?
Jour 16 : Yosemite
Jour 17 : Yosemite - SF
Jour 18 : SF
Jour 19 : SF - Monterey
Jour 20 : Monterey - LA
Jour 21 : LA Universal Studio
Jour 22 : Départ matin de LA
Le programme est chargé, surtout avec des enfants, mais on a vraiment envie de voir beaucoup de choses car on ne reviendra sans doute pas de si tôt. Peut être peut on gagner du temps pour pouvoir visiter quelques quartiers de LA.
Maintenant, j'attends vos idées et conseils pour faire de ce voyage un grand succès pour nous et les enfants. Quelles animations peut on trouver pour les enfants?
Un conseil, garde un 2 éme jour a LA pour faire universal , cela te permettra de te remettre du décalage , a universal on ne s'endort pas et route vers LV le jour 3, tu feras le reste de LA a ton retour
Pour zion , essai de passer une nuit dur place au zion lodge, fabuleux cela te permet de faire une rando par exemple angel's landing
Pour la route ente death valley et bodie, je pensais comme beaucoup, que cela ferais beaucoup de route et bien en partant a 6 heures de furnace creek, j'ai pu faire BODIE super en prenant mon temps, un petit arrêt au mono lake et passage de la tioga pass jusqu'à yosemite lodge sans vraiment courir , trés étonnant et pourtant j'ai des enfants de 12 et 13 ans et aucun n'a trouvés que la route été longue
Merci Stéphane pour ton conseil. C'est noté pour la nuit à Zion.
En ce qui concerne la visite d'Universal Studio le lendemain de notre arrivée, c'est ce que je voulais faire initialement mais ça me faisait passer le vendredi et le samedi à Las Vegas. Avec ce programme là, j'y serai le jeudi et vendredi.
Autre solution, aller directement à Gd Canyon et aller à Las Vegas après Zion, mais là aussi, ça tomberait un week end...
bon c'est dense c'est sûr, mais pas infaisable... je ferais effectivement LA - Grand Canyon d'une traite au début du voyage (les réveils matinaux dus au décalage horaire peuvent aider 😉) pour gagner un peu de temps...
Jour 1 (me) : arrivée LA fin de journée
Jour 2 (je) : LA - Universal Studios -
Jour 3 (ve) : LA - Grand Canyon
Jour 4 (sa) : Grand Canyon (hélico, visites des points de vue, coucher de soleil)
Jour 5 (di) : Grand Canyon - Page (Cathedral Wash par ex, Horseshoe Bend, Lower Antelope Canyon)
Jour 6 (lu) : Page (Upper Antelope Canyon) - Monument Valley (Scenic Drive et coucher de soleil) - Mexican Hat
Jour 7 (ma) : Monument Valley - Valley of Fire - Goosenecks SP - (Canyonlands Needles) - Moab
Jour 8 (me) : Moab (Arches NP)
Jour 9 (je) : Moab (Canyonlands, Island in the Sky - Dead Horse Point - Fisher Towers)
Jour 10 (ve) : Moab - passage rapide à Capitol Reef - Bryce Canyon
Jour 11 (sa) : Bryce Canyon - Mount Carmel Junction
Jour 12 (di) : Mount Carmel Junction - Zion (Canyon Overlook + d'autres balades/randos selon votre courage comme les Narrows, balade dans l'eau qui amusera les enfants...)
Jour 13 (lu) : Zion - Valley of Fire (y être tôt) - Las Vegas
Jour 14 (ma) : Las Vegas - Death Valley
Jour 15 (me) : Death Valley - Bodie - Lee Vining
Jour 16 (je) : Lee Vining - Tioga Pass - Yosemite
Jour 17 (ve) : Yosemite - SFO
Jour 18 (sa) : SFO
Jour 19 (di) : SFO
Jour 20 (lu): SFO - Monterey - San Simeon
Jour 21 (ma) : San Simeon - LA
Jour 22 (me) : Départ matin de LA
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
je ne connais pas tes enfants 😄 😉... difficile de répondre donc ... s'ils sont patients ou non... s'ils arrivent à s'occuper (jeux ou autres) ou à dormir en voiture... c'est sûr que c'est une longue étape (vraiment le seule grosse étape)... mais ça permet d'avancer... ~2h après LA, tu as des outlets à Barstow pour une petite pause ou Calico Ghost Town (mais je ne connais pas et il parait que c'est assez bof)... l'idéal serait de filer assez tôt vers Oatman/Kingman/Hackberry/Seligman (route 66) où là il y a des choses sympas à voir et qui plairont aux enfants (décors typiques de la route 66, les ânes...)... puis un petit stop à Williams qui est à ~1h du Grand Canyon...
il n'y a rien à Mount Carmel Junction (à part le golf ?) 😄 mais là aussi ça te permet d'avancer en quittant Bryce vers Zion... comme ça le lendemain, tu es tout proche de l'entrée est de Zion... ce qui permet d'aller faire la courte balade de Canyon Overlook le matin et de visiter Zion ensuite sans perdre trop de temps...
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
exact, j'avais pas vu 😊 ! Je dirais même, dans l'ordre: MV - Goosenecks - Valley of the Gods - Needles - Moab.
Nous y avions rajouté Natural Bridges, mais ça finit par faire une journée bien chargée.
En fait, en reprenant vos conseils, j'ai apporté quelques modifications à mon parcours, ça donnerait :
J1 (mar) : arrivée LA
J2 : LA Universal
J3 : LA
J4 : LA - Gd Canyon
J5 : Gd Canyon
J6 : Gd Canyon - Page
J7 : Page- Antelope canyon-Monument Valley
J8 : Monument Valley- Gooseneck - valley of gods-Moab
J9 : Moab : Canyonlands
J10 : Moab : Arches
J11 : Moab- Bryce
J12 : Bryce
J13 : Zion-Las Vegas
J14 : Las Vegas
J15 : Las Vegas-Death valley (furnace creek)
J16 : Death valley-Lee Wining
J17 : Josemite
J18 : Josemite - SFO
J19 : SFO : j'ai enlevé une journée pleine pour prendre le temps de faire la côte
J20 : SFO - San Simeon
J21 : San Simeon -LA
J22 : Départ pour Paris
En l'écrivant, je me demande si ce n'est pas trop chargé!!
J'ai hésité à enlever une journée à Moab pour pouvoir passer plus de temps à Zion. Pour l'instant, je privilégie Moab même je me demande si l'idée de survoler (en avion) Canyonlands peut à la fois me faire gagner du temps et nous en mettre plein la vue!! mais ça semble être assez cher!
oui merci Jacqueline 😊... petit coup de fatigue hier soir 😉...
par contre, je n'irais pas trop tôt à Goosenecks SP car sinon il risque d'y avoir des ombres...
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
dommage de "sacrifier" SFO... car en 1 jour et qq heures à peine, c'est vraiment très juste et dommage pour une telle ville... 😕
pour Moab : là aussi ça serait dommage d'y aller seulement 1 journée ! 😕
mais c'est sûr qu'il va falloir faire des choix ! car en 22 jours, une telle boucle n'est pas évidente...
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Vnoa
"A la liberté de provocation, répond la liberté d'objection"
"Les cons, ça ose tout. C'est même à ça qu'on les reconnaît"
"Le con ne perd jamais son temps, il perd celui des autres"
Carnet de Voyage: De Mile High City à Sin City (Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada) -> voir mon profil
C'est vrai que je sacrifie un peu SFO mais avec les enfants, en dehors d'Alcatraz, des Piers, du Golden Bridge et des cable cars, j'ai peur qu'ils s'ennuient.
Et je me dis que je reviendrai sans doute à SFO un jour.
Si je devais rajouter un jour à SFO, sur quelle étape je pourrais prendre. J'ai une contrainte vs Las Vegas car j'y dors le dimanche et le lundi. Je ne voudrais donc pas prendre un jour avant d'y passer car j'y serais vraiment en plein week end.
Il n'aurait pas fallu faire une boucle, mais repartir de San Francisco (et donc sacrifier la côte, mais pour le peu de temps que vous y passez, pas bien grave...). Malheureusement les billets d'avion étant déjà achetés... 😕
Effectivement, on aurait dû mieux réflèchir avant de prendre nos billets. Mais on a vu passer une offre qui nous paraissait intéressante, alors on l'a prise. Mais c'est sûr que si c'était à refaire, j'arriverais à Las Vegas et je repartirais de LA.
En ce qui concerne SFO, qu'est ce que je dois voir absolument en 1 grosse journée et demie?
hello,
le J11 de moab à bryce me semble une longue journée. J'opterais pour une nuit à Escalante, comme ça tu pourrais faire mossy cave et bryce canyon le j12 et de loger aux allentours de Mt carmel junction.
Dans ce cas j13: matinée Zion (avec canyon overlook et une balade à choisir dans la vallée) et dans l'apres midi vers Vegas (ça doit faire environ 3h de route (moins 1h de décalage horaire)
j16: passer par les alabama hills près de lone pine, et près de Lee vining, faire le crochet par Bodie
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Patrick
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Et pourquoi ne pas enlever le J5 à Grand Canyon ?
Tu arrives le soir en venant de L.A. (grosse journée de route 😕 pour tes enfants), tu fais la journée du lendemain dans le Grand Canyon. Que tu quittes en fin de journée pour aller dormir à Page.
Et tu ajoutes cette journée entre Moab et Las Vegas pour ne pas arriver un samedi à LV. 😉
Je dirais même, dans l'ordre: MV - Goosenecks - Valley of the Gods - Needles - Moab.
Non non, pas dans cet ordre car il va se retrouver à Goosenecks SP avec le fond pas très bien éclairé. Donc, dans l'ordre :
MV, VOG en commençant par l'entrée est, Goosenecks SP, Moky Dugway ; continuer sur la 261 puis la 95 avant de reprendre la 191.
Juste avant la route de Needles, Church Rock sur la droite.
Mais comme on aura fait Los Angeles-Williams, je me suis dit qu'il était préférable de ne pas trop rouler le lendemain, surtout que je voulais voir le coucher de soleil tranquille.
Le premier soir on a finalement réservé à Williams (Days Inn) et le lendemain soir au Holiday Inn Express de Gd Canyon Village.
En fait, les hôtels qui nous semblaient intéressants étaient déjà réservés!!
MV, VOG en commençant par l'entrée est, Goosenecks SP, Moky Dugway ; continuer sur la 261 puis la 95 avant de reprendre la 191.
Oui, pourquoi pas, ça fait juste un petit A/R de 9 mi pour rejoindre Goosenecks.
Honnêtement, je trouve que Goosenecks, après GC et MV, et avant Canyonlands et Arches, "ça vaut pas tripette".
Gooseneck est à 8mn de la route empruntée, je trouve que c'est d'un très bon rapport temps/km/beautée http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=UT-316+W&daddr=Utah+316, +Mexican+Hat, +Utah+84531, +United+States+(Goosenecks+of+the+San+Juan+River+State+Park)&hl=fr&geocode=FT6cNwIdx19z-Q%3BFZg9NwIdyKVy-SHxLm6T629rLg&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=13&sll=37.174404, -109.926984&sspn=0.119682,0.198097&ie=UTF8&ll=37.182613, -109.901733&spn=0.059835,0.099049&t=h&z=14
Perso je le trouve plus beau et sauvage que Horseshoe Bend par la noirceur des roches et les méandres très serrés.
Le trajet proposé était d'entrer dans VOG par l'est et revenir sur GSP ensuite. Il faut donc redescendre la 261 sur 9 mi, pour repartir enfin vers Moki Dugway et la 95.
Ce n'est pas si long, mais bon... à voir.
Le premier soir on a finalement réservé à Williams (Days Inn) et le lendemain soir au Holiday Inn Express de Gd Canyon Village.
En fait, les hôtels qui nous semblaient intéressants étaient déjà réservés!!
moi aussi j'ai réservé au HI express pour début août!
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
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Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
