Certains d'entre vous sont allés voir les fjords de Norvège en croisière. Je voudrais savoir si aux escales du bateau se trouvent des taxis qui proposent de faire des virées à prix raisonnable. Je ne connais rien aux pays nordiques et je sais qu'il existe des excursions proposées en car à des prix excessifs par les compagnies maritimes. De plus nous n'avons dans ce cas aucun choix de l'itinéraire. Nous sommes 4 à partir et peut être qu'une excursion en taxi ne coûterait pas plus cher ??? Et nous permettrait d'avoir le choix de nos visites. Qu'en pensez vous ? Est ce utopique ? Je suppose en effet que des centaines de touristes qui se précipitent vers les taxis celà doit être une belle cohue ? Faut -il réserver le taxi à l'avance et comment ? Merci pour vos conseils et vos expériences.
Fjords de Norvège en croisière, excursions
by Anoulita
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Certains d'entre vous sont allés voir les fjords de Norvège en croisière. Je voudrais savoir si aux escales du bateau se trouvent des taxis qui proposent de faire des virées à prix raisonnable. Je ne connais rien aux pays nordiques et je sais qu'il existe des excursions proposées en car à des prix excessifs par les compagnies maritimes. De plus nous n'avons dans ce cas aucun choix de l'itinéraire. Nous sommes 4 à partir et peut être qu'une excursion en taxi ne coûterait pas plus cher ??? Et nous permettrait d'avoir le choix de nos visites. Qu'en pensez vous ? Est ce utopique ? Je suppose en effet que des centaines de touristes qui se précipitent vers les taxis celà doit être une belle cohue ? Faut -il réserver le taxi à l'avance et comment ? Merci pour vos conseils et vos expériences.
Certains d'entre vous sont allés voir les fjords de Norvège en croisière. Je voudrais savoir si aux escales du bateau se trouvent des taxis qui proposent de faire des virées à prix raisonnable. Je ne connais rien aux pays nordiques et je sais qu'il existe des excursions proposées en car à des prix excessifs par les compagnies maritimes. De plus nous n'avons dans ce cas aucun choix de l'itinéraire. Nous sommes 4 à partir et peut être qu'une excursion en taxi ne coûterait pas plus cher ??? Et nous permettrait d'avoir le choix de nos visites. Qu'en pensez vous ? Est ce utopique ? Je suppose en effet que des centaines de touristes qui se précipitent vers les taxis celà doit être une belle cohue ? Faut -il réserver le taxi à l'avance et comment ? Merci pour vos conseils et vos expériences.
Bonjour,
Dites nous vos escales et nous vous donnerons des infos sur ce qu'il y a à voir et comment y aller😉
Dites nous vos escales et nous vous donnerons des infos sur ce qu'il y a à voir et comment y aller😉
Jany
Bonsoir Annie
Je dirais la même chose que Jany.
La Norvège est un pays cher et les taxis sont chers aussi .
Le mieux est souvent de faire les visites à pied par soi même . C'est souvent possible . Par exemple à Geiranger , qui est l'escale la plus belle il y a des bus qu'on peut réserver à l'avance sur internet .
Tu peux regarder sur mon profil , j'ai fait une croisière en Norvège l'an dernier en mai juin . J'ai fait un compte rendu au retour tu le trouves dans les discussions que j'ai démarrées .
A bientôt Claudine
Bonjour Annie,
Nous avons fait les fjords avec Croisière de France.
Nous avons fait toutes les excursions par nous-mêmes, nous étions 2 familles de 4 personnes. Nous n'avons jamais pris de taxi, mais bateau, train et bus. Il y a des taxis dans les ports.
Voici les escales si les tiennes sont les mêmes :
http://les-croisieres-de-sodisabi.eklablog.com/norvege-c26039298
Sandrine
Nous avons fait les fjords avec Croisière de France.
Nous avons fait toutes les excursions par nous-mêmes, nous étions 2 familles de 4 personnes. Nous n'avons jamais pris de taxi, mais bateau, train et bus. Il y a des taxis dans les ports.
Voici les escales si les tiennes sont les mêmes :
http://les-croisieres-de-sodisabi.eklablog.com/norvege-c26039298
Sandrine
Bonjour à tous,
Certains d'entre vous sont allés voir les fjords de Norvège en croisière. Je voudrais savoir si aux escales du bateau se trouvent des taxis qui proposent de faire des virées à prix raisonnable. Je ne connais rien aux pays nordiques et je sais qu'il existe des excursions proposées en car à des prix excessifs par les compagnies maritimes. De plus nous n'avons dans ce cas aucun choix de l'itinéraire. Nous sommes 4 à partir et peut être qu'une excursion en taxi ne coûterait pas plus cher ??? Et nous permettrait d'avoir le choix de nos visites. Qu'en pensez vous ? Est ce utopique ? Je suppose en effet que des centaines de touristes qui se précipitent vers les taxis celà doit être une belle cohue ? Faut -il réserver le taxi à l'avance et comment ? Merci pour vos conseils et vos expériences.
bonjour Annie, Je pars aussi voir les Fjords de Norvège et je suis à la recherche de renseignements pour les excursions. J'ai commencé mes recherches sur Warnemunde qui sera notre première escale puisque nous partons de Copenhague. Quels sont vos escales ? Pour ma part, Warnemunde, Bergen, Hellesylt, Flaam et pour finir Copenhague. Si vous le souhaitez nous pourrons échanger, nos idées. bien cordialement.
Certains d'entre vous sont allés voir les fjords de Norvège en croisière. Je voudrais savoir si aux escales du bateau se trouvent des taxis qui proposent de faire des virées à prix raisonnable. Je ne connais rien aux pays nordiques et je sais qu'il existe des excursions proposées en car à des prix excessifs par les compagnies maritimes. De plus nous n'avons dans ce cas aucun choix de l'itinéraire. Nous sommes 4 à partir et peut être qu'une excursion en taxi ne coûterait pas plus cher ??? Et nous permettrait d'avoir le choix de nos visites. Qu'en pensez vous ? Est ce utopique ? Je suppose en effet que des centaines de touristes qui se précipitent vers les taxis celà doit être une belle cohue ? Faut -il réserver le taxi à l'avance et comment ? Merci pour vos conseils et vos expériences.
bonjour Annie, Je pars aussi voir les Fjords de Norvège et je suis à la recherche de renseignements pour les excursions. J'ai commencé mes recherches sur Warnemunde qui sera notre première escale puisque nous partons de Copenhague. Quels sont vos escales ? Pour ma part, Warnemunde, Bergen, Hellesylt, Flaam et pour finir Copenhague. Si vous le souhaitez nous pourrons échanger, nos idées. bien cordialement.
Nicole
MSC Fantasia : Italie, Croatie, Grèce avril 2014
MSC Opéra : Fjords de Norvège - juin 2017
Msc Meraviglia : Italie, Malte, Espagne - 2018
Bonjour,
Pour Warnemunde je vous conseille de prendre le train (la gare se trouve à côté du bateau) et qui va à Rostock (changement à Haupbahnof, les infos pour y aller sont dans le petit guide que l'on vous remet au port). C'est une très jolie ville à faire le matin par exemple puis retour pour manger au bateau puis faire la petite station balnéaire de Warnemunde l'après midi avec plage si le temps le permet.
Bergen pas besoin de prendre une excursion non plus. C'est une très jolie ville faisable à pied : quartier hanséatique, musée hanséatique, funiculaire pour aller au point de vue, marché aux poissons...
Geiranger vous pouvez prendre le bus touristique qui emmène dans la montagne pour des points de vue. Soit réservé par internet soit sur place à l'office du tourisme qui se trouve dans le port (descendre dans les premiers pour espérer avoir une place)
Flam je vous conseille soit de prendre une excursion du bateau soit réserver sur internet une promenade en train (flamsbana) à travers la montagne.
Copenhague, est une très jolie ville à faire soi même à pied par contre le port est loin de la ville. Nous avions pris un bus local à la descente du bateau puis un métro pour aller en centre ville, mais peut être y a t'il plus pratique
Jany
Bonjour à tous
nous partons pour les fjords avec la croisiere costa terre de wiking le 1 /7/16
nous avons l'habitude de faire les balades par nous même
nous partons de warnemunde et nos escales sont :
copenhague , Geiranger, Bergen, Kristiansand, Arthus
je regarde avec attention vos conseils à tous sur le forum
nous souhaitons profiter de copenhague :il n'y a pas de navettes depuis le port?
cordialement à tous
mijog
Bonsoir Nicole,
Je crois comprendre que prendre les excursions proposées par les compagnies de navigation ce n'est pas utile et très cher. Seule la sécurité des horaires est assurée. J'ai entendu dire et je comprends que ce doit être le cas, que les clients ayant réservé les excursions payantes sont les premiers à débarquer, CAD qu'on leur offre plus de temps pour être à l'heure partout. Nous sommes 4 amies à partir, je pense que nous opterons pour les moyens personnels, taxi ou train selon le cas. Et en fonction des coûts. Bonne soirée. Annie.
Bonsoir Nicole,
Je confirme que tout est très cher en Norvège.
Il ne faut pas trop compter sur les taxis. A part dans les grandes villes comme Bergen, il n'y en a pas.
Pour Bergen, Helslyt, Geiranger, tu trouveras des renseignements sur http://www.laroutedusel.net/croisieres-fjords-et-cap-nord-avec-le-costa-mediterranea-aout-2014.html
Bonjour
à Geiranger , nous pensons réserver 1 bus pour" la route des aigles "
pour Kristiansand et Arhus je commence les recherches ...
à Copenhague la fameuse "petite sirène" est elle loin du bateau ?
merci pour vos infos à tous
mijog
Bonjour Dominique,
C'est sûr qu'il est tout à fait possible de faire ses excursions par soi-même en Norvège.
Si vous avez des questions, n'hésitez pas.
Sandrine
C'est sûr qu'il est tout à fait possible de faire ses excursions par soi-même en Norvège.
Si vous avez des questions, n'hésitez pas.
Sandrine
Bonjour Sandrine
tous vos CR sont un régal !
pour l'instant je me penche sur les balades de" terre de viking"
Geiranger : bus pour prendre de l'altitude !
BERGEN :pas de problème grâce à vos conseils
Copenhague : Bus et metro pour se rendre au centre ?
Arhus :quelqu'un a t il des infos ?
Kristiansand: assez peu d'infos sur le forum
conseillez vous de changer de l'argent ou peut on payer par carte ?
bon we à tous
marie
mijog
Bonjour Marie,
Merci pour les compliments sur mon blog, ça fait plaisir !!!
Je ne connais pas les villes du grand nord. Peut-être une prochaine croisière ???
Nous avions tout payé en carte bleu Mastercard, il y a juste une commission prise par la banque, mais c'est bien plus pratique.
Sandrine
Merci pour les compliments sur mon blog, ça fait plaisir !!!
Je ne connais pas les villes du grand nord. Peut-être une prochaine croisière ???
Nous avions tout payé en carte bleu Mastercard, il y a juste une commission prise par la banque, mais c'est bien plus pratique.
Sandrine
Bonjour Sandrine
Je te félicite pour ton blog, les photos sont très belles
Je pars moi aussi sur cette destination avec les escales suivantes :
Copenhague, Stavanger, Bergen, ALESUND et GEIRANGER
Je viens de réserver cette croisiere sur Royal Caribbean et commence à regarder un peu
Nous sommes très nature et randonnées
A GEIRANGER ( 7h 17h ) nous n'avons pas de stop à Elysat ( je suis pas sûre de l'orthographe), je suppose que c'est plus grandiose d'aller au mont DALSNIBBA que la route des aigles, j'aimerais aussi faire une randonnée l'après midi par exemple, est ce possible ?
À Bergen est ce intéressant de monter a pied au lieu de prendre le funiculaire ?
Comme se rendre au bateau à Copenhague ?
Merci d'avance à tous 😏
A GEIRANGER ( 7h 17h ) nous n'avons pas de stop à Elysat ( je suis pas sûre de l'orthographe), je suppose que c'est plus grandiose d'aller au mont DALSNIBBA que la route des aigles, j'aimerais aussi faire une randonnée l'après midi par exemple, est ce possible ?
À Bergen est ce intéressant de monter a pied au lieu de prendre le funiculaire ?
Comme se rendre au bateau à Copenhague ?
Merci d'avance à tous 😏
Norvégian Gém NCL, Horizon CDF, musica MSC, Allure of the seas RCI, sérénade of the seas RCI, Symphony of the seas RCI, Régal PRINCESS, Fantasia MSC, seaside MSC, explorer of the seas RCI
A Bergen, ce qui est le mieux, c'est de redescendre à pied🙂🙂
D'abord comment allez-vous à Copenhague, train , avion, voiture....
Ensuite regarder sur le site du port où votre bateau sera amarré car il y a plusieurs terminaux.
MERCI Alain
l'escale à Bergen est de 8h à 18h
nous souhaitons donc prendre le funiculaire(il n'est pas nécessaire de réserver ?)
, et redescendre à pied
conseillez vous d'autres activités ?
bon we
mijog
Merci 😉
Norvégian Gém NCL, Horizon CDF, musica MSC, Allure of the seas RCI, sérénade of the seas RCI, Symphony of the seas RCI, Régal PRINCESS, Fantasia MSC, seaside MSC, explorer of the seas RCI
Bonjour
Nous arriverons la veille en avion et serons donc en centre ville le jour du depart du bateau
Le quai est C330
Connais tu un hotel ?
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Merci Bernard
avec costa notre escale est à copenhague , mais nous ne savons pas à quelle zone portuaire
comment le savoir ?
cordialement
marie
mijog
Bergen, c'est vraiment une belle ville à visiter:
- le quartier Bryggen, tout près du port
- le musée Hanséatique près du port,
- le port lui même et le fish market où tu peux manger une patte de crabe géant sur une assiette en carton et sur des tables sales (mais ça a le goût de l'authentique !!) au prix du homard à Paris,
- éviter les bus hop on hop off, qui n'ont aucun intérêt et te plantent à 3 km du bateau parce qu'il n'y a pas assez de clients
Au funiculaire, il y a la queue, mais ça débite assez fort
En redescendant, tu peux reprendre le funi descendant, il y a 2 stations intermédiaires.
Des photos sur http://www.laroutedusel.net/croisieres-fjords-et-cap-nord-avec-le-costa-mediterranea-aout-2014.html

Le quartier Bryggen

Le quartier Bryggen
Vous regardez sur le site du port si Costa est incapable de vous le dire.....
Bonjour,
Je n'arrive pas à copier le lien avec la tablette 🤪, j'ai regardé si c'est bien le 2 juillet avec le FAVOLOSA c'est aussi le quai C 330
Norvégian Gém NCL, Horizon CDF, musica MSC, Allure of the seas RCI, sérénade of the seas RCI, Symphony of the seas RCI, Régal PRINCESS, Fantasia MSC, seaside MSC, explorer of the seas RCI
Le point C330 est à Oceankaj, le plus éloigné.
2 solutions , le bus 27 qui arrive à 200 m du terminal mais il faut le rattraper dans Copenhague avec une éventuelle correspondance pas tellement pratique , ou sinon du centre le taxi 10/15 euros environ. C'est bien le Serenade of the seas ?
La veille de l'aéroport dans le hall d'arrivée, accès aux trains directs pour la gare centrale , distributeurs de billets 10 mn de train....
Pour les hôtels plus d'une centaine près de la gare, à chacun suivant son budget , le mieux est de regarder des sites de recherche booking.com ou kelkoo voyages et de faire son choix , emplacement et prix ....
Oui c'est donc bien aussi à Oceankaj, voir ma précédente réponse à Barriaux....
Merci
Oui c'est bien le serenade, tu le connais ?
On prendra un taxi, ce sera plus simple pour aller au port
Je regarde effectivement les hotels près de la gare mais difficile de se décider, il paraît que le rapport qualité prix n'est pas terrible
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Merci encore pour ces précieuses informations. ..
J'ai lu sur d'autres discussions que vous pouviez connaître le nombre des différents bateaux à quai lors des escales, cela pourrait nous être précieux pour les escales comme Geirenger, Bergen...
mijog
Je ne connais pas le Serenade....oui à Copenhague comme dans tous les pays nordiques , il faut bien regarder le descriptif de l'hôtel rapport qualité /prix ...donc ne pas attendre pour la résa....
Vous regardez les sites des différents ports et vous avez indiqué tous les bateaux en escale et leur emplacement.
Bonjour Marie-Christine,
A Geiranger, il est possible de réserver à l'avance le bus pour Dalsnibba, nous il n'y avait plus de place et nous étions allés route des Aigles.
A Bergen, il est tout à fait possible de monter en funiculaire et de redescendre à pied. C'est ce que nous avions fait. En passant, marché aux poissons et quartier hanséatique.
Je ne connais pas Copenhague. Nous étions partis de Calais.
Je peux vous envoyer mes documents de préparation d'escale. Pour cela, envoyez-moi votre adresse mail en message privé.
Sandrine
A Geiranger, il est possible de réserver à l'avance le bus pour Dalsnibba, nous il n'y avait plus de place et nous étions allés route des Aigles.
A Bergen, il est tout à fait possible de monter en funiculaire et de redescendre à pied. C'est ce que nous avions fait. En passant, marché aux poissons et quartier hanséatique.
Je ne connais pas Copenhague. Nous étions partis de Calais.
Je peux vous envoyer mes documents de préparation d'escale. Pour cela, envoyez-moi votre adresse mail en message privé.
Sandrine
A bergen le tour de ville en segway peut être sympa
La location est loin du bateau ?
A bientôt
mijog
Merci BERNARD
je vais donc regarder sur les différents sites des ports
Si j'ai un problème je vous fais signe
mijog
Bonsoir Marie Christine
Pour Geiranger si tu prends le bus pour le mont Dalsnibba , tu peux demander à te faire laisser, à la descente , environ un kilomètre avant le village , au niveau de la ferme Vesteras . On y arrive , , à pieds , en 15 minutes environ . De la on peut aller jusqu'à un point de vue qui domine le fjord et le bateau , très spectaculaire .
Et ensuite on redescend à pied jusqu'au village , en une petite heure , de mémoire .
J'ai fait un compte rendu, en juin dernier , tu le trouves dans les discussions que j'ai démarées .
Tu vas faire une très belle croisière .
Cordialement Claudine
Merci CLAUDINE
Fidèle du forum, j'ai lu le CR , toujours autant de plaisir à parcourir ces lignes!
A bientôt
Marie
mijog
MERCI pour le merci .
C'est super de savoir que notre contribution au forum peut être utile à d'autres .
J'apprécie beaucoup toutes les informations que je peux , moi aussi , récupérer ici !
Cordialement Claudine
Bonsoir Claudine
J'ai bien sûr lu ton CR et te remercie
J'attaque juste ma préparation et commence à y voir un peu plus clair 😉
Je vais suivre ton conseil pour le bus, si le trajet n'est pas changé comme tu le dit dans ton CR
Pour Bergen, tu dis que des norvégiens montaient à pied au lieu de prendre le funiculaire, penses tu que ce soit trop long et nous pénalise pour voir autre chose dans la journée ?
Bonne soirée 🙂
Je vais suivre ton conseil pour le bus, si le trajet n'est pas changé comme tu le dit dans ton CR
Pour Bergen, tu dis que des norvégiens montaient à pied au lieu de prendre le funiculaire, penses tu que ce soit trop long et nous pénalise pour voir autre chose dans la journée ?
Bonne soirée 🙂
Norvégian Gém NCL, Horizon CDF, musica MSC, Allure of the seas RCI, sérénade of the seas RCI, Symphony of the seas RCI, Régal PRINCESS, Fantasia MSC, seaside MSC, explorer of the seas RCI
Pour Bergen , à mon avis ça doit être long de monter à pied ...C'est pour les locaux , ou les touristes qui restent plusieurs jours .
Et comme tu le dis il vaut mieux utilser le temps pour visiter autre chose . Le trajet de descente (ou de montée ) se fait dans la forêt , c'est beau mais ça pourrait être ailleurs .
A Geiranger si tu veux aller au mont Dalsnibba c'est sur la même route que la ferme Vesteras .
Si tu tournes le dos au ponton de Geiranger , la route des aigles c'est sur ta gauche et la route pour Dalsnibba et la ferme Vesteras c'est sur la droite . Donc pas de problème de changement d'itinéraire pour ce trajet .
Bons préparatifs
Cordialement Claudine
Merci
Je vais noter tout ça dans mes fiches
Chaussures de marche indispensables je suppose ?
Norvégian Gém NCL, Horizon CDF, musica MSC, Allure of the seas RCI, sérénade of the seas RCI, Symphony of the seas RCI, Régal PRINCESS, Fantasia MSC, seaside MSC, explorer of the seas RCI
Pour Bergen , les baskets pourraient suffire. Ou les bottes en caoutchouc car il pleut souvent .
Par contre pour marcher à Geiranger il vaut mieux des chaussures qui tiennent la cheville et imperméables , le terrain peut être glissant .
Claudine
Ok...Bonnes chaussures et vêtements de pluie !
Te paraît il nécessaire de se munir de cartes ou bien y a t il des offices de tourisme à bergen et geiranger?
mijog
Pour Geiranger j'avais imprimé des cartes des chemins sur internet .
Ericat 1505 (c'est elle qui a débuté le calendrier de 2016 ) a fait des comptes rendus très détaillés de ses escales en particulier Geiranger .
Sinon dans toutes les villes il y a des plans à disposition .
Claudine
Bonjour à tous
je reviens vers vous car j'ai du mal à trouver des infos sur les escales de Aarhus et Kristiansand qui semblent peu fréquentes !
pour les autres escales vos conseils me sont précieux :BERGEN et Geirenger tout me semble callé , pour Copenhague il nous reste à gérer le transport pour le centre ville car effectivement (merci Bernard pour les infos) le quai semble éloigné !peut être y a t il des navettes costa ?
bonne journée
mijog
A Geiranger, il y a une antenne de l'office du tourisme sur le quai de débarquement. Ils ont tout ce qu'il faut.
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Hello,
We’re back from this cruise.
Boarding in Dunkirk: The doors opened around 12 PM. Since we were a bit early, I asked if my husband, who uses a walker, could wait inside instead of outside. I left him with the two suitcases and our two backpacks in the small hall while I parked the car in the reserved CFC parking lot for 10 € per day.
The shuttle that was supposed to take people from the parking lot to the model pavilion was supposed to arrive in 5 minutes, but after 15 minutes, nothing. After waiting 15 minutes, I saw a man walking and asked if I could follow him. In 15 minutes, we arrived, and still no sign of the shuttle—it must have passed us. Arrived at the model pavilion.
My husband had already checked in the suitcases with the help of a CFC staff member. The remaining formalities were completed quickly. We were on board by 12:15 PM. Headed to the buffet on deck 11 and waited in a lounge to access our cabin.
At 2 PM, we discovered our balcony cabin on deck 9 at the rear: spacious with a large balcony compared to MSC/COSTA.
Since we were at the rear, cabin 9202, there was always an issue with elevator number 4: "priority."
Elevator number 2 stops at deck 10... and elevator number 3 was often out of order, leaving only number 1 for those with mobility issues to reach the buffet, especially for people who struggle with stairs. Note: only one child on board and lots of "gray hair."
DAY 2: At sea. Lots of activities offered.
Day 3: GOTHENBURG (Sweden). Sunny, 19°C at 11 AM.
Excursion booked with CFC: Gothenburg and Haga for all.
Interesting visit with a great guide. The HAGA district, in our opinion, is full of cobblestones and nothing special, not suitable for people using a cane or wheelchair. Elevator number 3 was out of order again.
Day 4: Copenhagen. 15°C in the morning, showers in the afternoon.
We didn’t book an excursion since we’d already stopped here with CFC in 2025, and based on advice from this forum, we took the hop-on/hop-off bus right in front of the ship. I still went to see the Little Mermaid again.
No TV, but the elevator was fixed.
DAY 5: At sea. Still no TV.
DAY 6: GDANSK (Poland). 15°C, rain all day.
There’s a shuttle to get to the city center.
We took the excursion: Panorama of Gdansk.
The guide left us at the entrance of the city center for 45 minutes, telling us what to visit. Meet-up for the rest of the tour at 3 PM. The bus left at 3:15 PM to cover 10 km to see St. Mary’s Cathedral. We arrived at 4:16 PM... The guide said there are often traffic jams in that direction. We had 10 minutes on site before heading to see the lighthouse and the Westerplatte monument, where we also had 10 minutes.
Many of us wondered why we didn’t do the tour in the opposite direction since they knew there would be traffic...
I went to reception to complain about the organization. The staff member read me the program: we were supposed to start with the lighthouse, then go to the cathedral and stay for 30 minutes before heading to the center of Gdansk for a short guided walk with some free time to buy souvenirs, etc.
The guide did the complete opposite of what was planned and didn’t even give us a guided tour—just dropped us off in the city...
DAY 7: Bornholm Island (Denmark). 14°C, a few sunny spells.
We saw in the excursions that there was a walking tour of RØNNE. So, like many others, we explored on our own. There was a small orchestra welcoming us at the port and two people with city maps. We took the shuttle to leave the port—it ran every 15 minutes. The tourist office was next to the "shuttle bus." A pleasant visit at our own pace.
DAY 8: KIEL (Germany). 18–23°C, nice weather.
We took the "Kiel for all" excursion. Great guide and interesting visits.
The port is in the city, and in 10 minutes, we were in the city center by following a blue line on the ground from the port. Elevator 3 was stuck again... and the TV was back.
DAY 9: At sea. Elevator 3 works.
DAY 10: At sea. Elevator 3 is out of order again...
DAY 11: Disembarkation in Dunkirk.
Cabins had to be vacated by 7:30 AM. Buffet open until 9 AM.
Elevator number 1 was "reserved," leaving only number 2, which doesn’t go up to deck 11... a problem for people with mobility issues who had to cross the entire deck 11 and try to use one of the four working elevators at the front, which were crowded.
My opinion: Interesting stops.
The onboard staff were always welcoming, smiling, and mostly French-speaking.
Evening shows were better than in March/April 2025—better singers, dancers, and presenters, and the costumes were improved.
I liked the "magician" shows less.
There were three onboard lectures by a very cultured person, but they went off-topic and were too historical for my taste. I didn’t attend the other two; my husband went to the second but not the third.
For this cruise, there was a bridge theme, but we’re not players or interested.
We didn’t take a drink package on board—water, coffee, tea, and herbal teas were available.
We had a water leak in our cabin the night before disembarkation. We reported it, and after the technical staff came (with a translator who didn’t speak English), we were asked to leave the cabin for a while for repairs. We went to a lounge, and after 1.5 hours, I checked in at reception. The repair took longer than expected... we had to change cabins... not ideal the night before disembarkation. No balcony cabins were available, so we got an ocean-view cabin, 6075, with a bathtub (impossible for both of us to use). We packed our suitcases, took a shower in our cabin, and moved to the new one. Noise from chairs until 12:30 AM because the cabin was under a lounge, and constant ventilation noise in the hallway... sleep was hard to come by. Disembarkation: Well organized. We were helped with transporting the two suitcases and bags to the waiting room while I took the shuttle to get the car. Guylène
We had a water leak in our cabin the night before disembarkation. We reported it, and after the technical staff came (with a translator who didn’t speak English), we were asked to leave the cabin for a while for repairs. We went to a lounge, and after 1.5 hours, I checked in at reception. The repair took longer than expected... we had to change cabins... not ideal the night before disembarkation. No balcony cabins were available, so we got an ocean-view cabin, 6075, with a bathtub (impossible for both of us to use). We packed our suitcases, took a shower in our cabin, and moved to the new one. Noise from chairs until 12:30 AM because the cabin was under a lounge, and constant ventilation noise in the hallway... sleep was hard to come by. Disembarkation: Well organized. We were helped with transporting the two suitcases and bags to the waiting room while I took the shuttle to get the car. Guylène
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Has anyone taken the CFC recently?
Thoughts?
Thanks
Thoughts?
Thanks
hi there
Here’s the cruise schedule for 2026.
It’s a great way to get ideas and maybe even meet up with other members.
2 essential rules:
1) never "quote" the calendar when replying—this’ll avoid any confusion 2) follow the format below DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry!PLEASE respect the templates! COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE STRUGGLING DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / / It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF CRUISES 2026: JANUARY FEBRUARY MARCH APRIL MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NOVEMBER DECEMBER
1) never "quote" the calendar when replying—this’ll avoid any confusion 2) follow the format below DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / /
REMINDER Despite my requests, few people follow the requested format. Cruises that stray too far from it won’t be listed anymore—sorry!PLEASE respect the templates! COPY AND PASTE THE FORMAT BELOW AND REPLACE WITH YOUR DETAILS IF YOU’RE STRUGGLING DD/MM - username / SHIP IN CAPS / number of days / cruise title / departure port DON’T FORGET THE SPACES between the / / It takes time to fix mistakes, so THANKS TO EVERYONE for your help!
YOUR TURN 😉
NUMBER OF CRUISES 2026: JANUARY FEBRUARY MARCH APRIL MAY JUNE JULY AUGUST SEPTEMBER OCTOBER NOVEMBER DECEMBER
Hello everyone,
It’s with immense sadness that I learned this morning of the passing of our friend Nathalie (nadu). Many of us knew her through this forum, which she loved so much. She enjoyed reading your travel stories, joining discussions, sharing her cruise reviews, and offering valuable advice—always with kindness, gentleness, and discretion.
For me, Nathalie was so much more than just a cruise enthusiast. She was a friend, a deeply kind person who was always there to listen, despite the many health challenges she faced with tremendous courage. We corresponded regularly, and sometimes we had the chance to visit each other’s homes or attend the cruise show together with our respective husbands.
We shared a common dream: when we both retired, we had planned to finally go on a cruise together. Life had other plans, and that trip will forever remain a journey we never had the chance to take. That thought weighs heavily on my heart today.
I’ll remember her as a gentle, generous woman who was always ready to help others. Her presence on this forum will leave a huge void, just as her friendship has in my life.
I send my sincerest thoughts to her husband, her family, and all those who had the chance to know her.
Fair winds, Nathalie. I like to think you’re now sailing on an infinitely calm sea, under an eternally blue sky. You’ll remain in our thoughts and hearts every time we talk about cruises or set off on a new journey.
Rest in peace, Nathalie.
For those who’d like to send a message of comfort and sympathy to her husband, you can send me a PM, and I’ll pass it along. THANK YOU
For me, Nathalie was so much more than just a cruise enthusiast. She was a friend, a deeply kind person who was always there to listen, despite the many health challenges she faced with tremendous courage. We corresponded regularly, and sometimes we had the chance to visit each other’s homes or attend the cruise show together with our respective husbands.
We shared a common dream: when we both retired, we had planned to finally go on a cruise together. Life had other plans, and that trip will forever remain a journey we never had the chance to take. That thought weighs heavily on my heart today.
I’ll remember her as a gentle, generous woman who was always ready to help others. Her presence on this forum will leave a huge void, just as her friendship has in my life.
I send my sincerest thoughts to her husband, her family, and all those who had the chance to know her.
Fair winds, Nathalie. I like to think you’re now sailing on an infinitely calm sea, under an eternally blue sky. You’ll remain in our thoughts and hearts every time we talk about cruises or set off on a new journey.
Rest in peace, Nathalie.
For those who’d like to send a message of comfort and sympathy to her husband, you can send me a PM, and I’ll pass it along. THANK YOU
Hello everyone,
So happy to be back on this Forum!
We’re heading off on another cruise—our 7th—after a 5-year break...
We’ll be leaving from Venice on April 26th with stops in Kotor, Mykonos, Santorini, and Ancona.
Could you help me plan the stops by sharing tips, tricks, and advice?
For those who already know me, you know we prefer not to take the cruise line’s excursions but instead organize everything ourselves.
Thanks in advance to everyone, and looking forward to chatting with you all!
Hi there,
I'm looking at a cruise in the north.Which one do you think is more interesting? Thanks
Hello,
We’re taking a cruise to Northern Europe with a stop in SOUTHAMPTON.
We’d like to visit the Stonehenge site.
Is it possible to get there on our own (my husband is a wheelchair user), since the MSC excursion to Salisbury is priced at 127 € per person?
There’s also a stop in Rotterdam, and it seems there’s a "miniature village to visit" nearby. Has anyone here been there, and if so, how did you get there?
Thanks so much for your tips. Mum49
If you're traveling on the Costa Diadema from October 17th to 28th, 2026 to Lisbon, we can meet up for a drink. Share our cruising experiences, an excursion, a table...
hi there, a group of friends and I are going on a cruise at the end of June with CFC in Norway. I’d love to get some info on the different stops we’ll be making. Most of them are one-day stops (from around 10 AM to 8 PM on average). Here are the stops: Andalsnes, Trondheim, Honningsvåg, Alta, Hellesylt, Sandane, Austefjorden.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can share what there is to see or do in these places.
When I get back, I’ll post what we did—it might help others who come after us.
Also, does anyone know if the boat sticks to the arrival time in Dunkirk for catching tickets to head back south? We’ll plan a buffer just in case.
Thanks everyone!
Thanks in advance to anyone who can share what there is to see or do in these places.
When I get back, I’ll post what we did—it might help others who come after us.
Also, does anyone know if the boat sticks to the arrival time in Dunkirk for catching tickets to head back south? We’ll plan a buffer just in case.
Thanks everyone!
Hi there, The day before boarding the Costa Favolosa for the Norwegian Fjords cruise departing from Hamburg, I'd like to book a hotel. Which one would be the most convenient location-wise relative to the port?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Hi everyone on the cruising forum,
I’m looking to get in touch with someone who’s been on an Arctic Cruise aboard the ship POLARFRONT, operated by the French company "LATITUDE BLANCHE", for some info.
https://www.latitudeblanche.com/voyages-grandnord-polarfront/
I already posted a similar message here 2-3 months ago, and it mysteriously disappeared... ??
Hoping for a response this time.
Best to all,
Puma2A
...
I’m looking to get in touch with someone who’s been on an Arctic Cruise aboard the ship POLARFRONT, operated by the French company "LATITUDE BLANCHE", for some info.
https://www.latitudeblanche.com/voyages-grandnord-polarfront/
I already posted a similar message here 2-3 months ago, and it mysteriously disappeared... ??
Hoping for a response this time.
Best to all,
Puma2A
...
Hi there, I was wondering if anyone has ever taken a cruise with this PO Cruise company.
Would love to hear your thoughts!
They’ve got some great itineraries for Norway.Hello,
We’ll be sailing on the Renaissance with CFC to southern Norway from July 4 to 11, 2026, departing from Dunkirk (the cruise was booked through "Planète Croisière").
When entering some personal details or pre-selecting options on the CFC website, I’m wondering about the "optional" categories for drinks and WiFi.
I’m actually a bit surprised by these extra charges, as we weren’t used to them on other cruises (Australis in Patagonia; Hurtigruten’s Coastal Express in Norway and Alaska; Rivages du Monde in the Arctic or on the Douro River; a Nile river cruise in Egypt), where we sometimes had access to basic drinks at meals and free WiFi when near land.
Anyway, for those who’ve already taken a CFC cruise on the Renaissance, could you share some advice? Specifically about the most basic drink package, called "Fraîcheur" (238 € for two), which doesn’t seem to be described anywhere. The "Premium" package seems excessive (490 € for two for the week) for light drinkers.
As for WiFi, it’s 10 € per day per person. While I find that price acceptable for parking our car in Dunkirk, it feels overpriced here (especially since it was free on the Nordlys "Coastal Express" just 3 or 4 years ago).
So, I’d love to hear from experienced cruisers who’ve been on this ship!
Looking forward to seeing the excursion prices, which should be available soon! 😐
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d love to hear from travelers who’ve done this cruise with Rivages du Monde or CroisiEurope.
Thanks!
Elettra69
Hi there,
I’m considering a cruise on this ship in the recently introduced Yacht Club category.
Have any forum members tried it?
What are your thoughts? Positive or negative? Which cabins should we go for—or avoid?
We’re already familiar with the Yacht Clubs on the Splendida, Fantasia, Preziosa, and Divina series.
We weren’t as keen on the one on the Seashore—we found it too big.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Claudine
We're considering a new cruise soon and would like to try the Renaissance.
The uniqueness of the promenade cabins appeals to us, but could anyone give us some insights on the following points:
- Is the glass door sufficiently tinted to prevent outsiders from seeing into the cabin?
- Is the soundproofing good enough to block out conversations on the promenade deck?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Hi there,
Do you have a hotel near the cruise port (or easy to reach by metro with luggage) to recommend? I’m planning to spend two days there before boarding.
Thanks in advance! Claudine
Do you have a hotel near the cruise port (or easy to reach by metro with luggage) to recommend? I’m planning to spend two days there before boarding.
Thanks in advance! Claudine
Hello,
My husband, our two teens, and I are going on a cruise on the COSTA Esmeralda at the beginning of July. We’re thinking of exploring the ports on our own. Do any of you have recent experiences or tips to share? Are there shuttles between the port and the city center? Are they free? Looking forward to hearing from you.
My husband, our two teens, and I are going on a cruise on the COSTA Esmeralda at the beginning of July. We’re thinking of exploring the ports on our own. Do any of you have recent experiences or tips to share? Are there shuttles between the port and the city center? Are they free? Looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi, can you eat in the evening at the Costa Smeralda’s cafeteria, or do you have to dine at the restaurant? Thanks for your reply.
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Hi everyone,
As promised, here’s my review of the cruise I took from the 5th to the 19th on the MSC Virtuosa.
As you know, I had initially booked a cruise with Mein Schiff departing from Dubai (from Dubai to Cape Town). It was a 22-day cruise. Due to the issues in the Persian Gulf, my cruise was canceled by Mein Schiff.
So, we started looking for a Plan B because we really wanted to go. Especially my wife, who had just had a minor procedure and needed some rest. Since she had already taken time off, she was determined to travel. However, we were looking for an affordable Plan B since we weren’t sure when Mein Schiff or the airline would reimburse us.
While browsing online, I found a 15-day cruise departing from Pointe-à-Pitre (including flights, transfers, the cruise, and drinks) for a price of 1,200 € in a Fantastica balcony cabin. We thought, *Why not?*
I should mention that I’m not usually a big fan of MSC. My last experience with them was post-Covid (I took two cruises, one in 2021 and another in 2022), and it was honestly a disaster. We didn’t want to repeat that, but after talking to Catherine, who told me she was very happy with a short Christmas cruise, we decided to give it a try.
I have to say, I was left speechless. Honestly, the cruise was absolutely perfect. There’s nothing to complain about (or just a few minor details). In terms of service and food, I felt like I was on a premium cruise line. I’d even say MSC has nothing to envy from some of those companies. While premium lines like Holland, Celebrity, and Royal are cutting back on services, I think MSC has made huge improvements. Seriously, I wasn’t expecting this at all. You’ll see what I mean as we chat more.
I won’t do a full review like I usually do because there weren’t many stops: 1. We boarded in Pointe-à-Pitre 2. We stopped in Saint-Martin 3. Then it was a direct crossing to the Azores...
This cruise was really about relaxing, even if it’s not the kind of trip we usually take.
First off, I’m not a big fan of "flight and cruise" packages. I asked if we could leave two days early, but they said it wasn’t possible. We had to take the flight, then the bus, and board the ship directly.
It’s not really my thing, but given the price we paid and since we really wanted to relax, we thought, *Why not?*
Here’s the itinerary:
Boarding in Pointe-à-Pitre Saint-Martin Five days at sea The Azores Four days at sea Hamburg One day at sea Le Havre

But as I mentioned, it wasn’t about the itinerary. It was really about taking a break and unwinding. Honestly, I came back thrilled.
Departure and boarding details to come
As promised, here’s my review of the cruise I took from the 5th to the 19th on the MSC Virtuosa.
As you know, I had initially booked a cruise with Mein Schiff departing from Dubai (from Dubai to Cape Town). It was a 22-day cruise. Due to the issues in the Persian Gulf, my cruise was canceled by Mein Schiff.
So, we started looking for a Plan B because we really wanted to go. Especially my wife, who had just had a minor procedure and needed some rest. Since she had already taken time off, she was determined to travel. However, we were looking for an affordable Plan B since we weren’t sure when Mein Schiff or the airline would reimburse us.
While browsing online, I found a 15-day cruise departing from Pointe-à-Pitre (including flights, transfers, the cruise, and drinks) for a price of 1,200 € in a Fantastica balcony cabin. We thought, *Why not?*
I should mention that I’m not usually a big fan of MSC. My last experience with them was post-Covid (I took two cruises, one in 2021 and another in 2022), and it was honestly a disaster. We didn’t want to repeat that, but after talking to Catherine, who told me she was very happy with a short Christmas cruise, we decided to give it a try.
I have to say, I was left speechless. Honestly, the cruise was absolutely perfect. There’s nothing to complain about (or just a few minor details). In terms of service and food, I felt like I was on a premium cruise line. I’d even say MSC has nothing to envy from some of those companies. While premium lines like Holland, Celebrity, and Royal are cutting back on services, I think MSC has made huge improvements. Seriously, I wasn’t expecting this at all. You’ll see what I mean as we chat more.
I won’t do a full review like I usually do because there weren’t many stops: 1. We boarded in Pointe-à-Pitre 2. We stopped in Saint-Martin 3. Then it was a direct crossing to the Azores...
This cruise was really about relaxing, even if it’s not the kind of trip we usually take.
First off, I’m not a big fan of "flight and cruise" packages. I asked if we could leave two days early, but they said it wasn’t possible. We had to take the flight, then the bus, and board the ship directly.
It’s not really my thing, but given the price we paid and since we really wanted to relax, we thought, *Why not?*
Here’s the itinerary:
Boarding in Pointe-à-Pitre Saint-Martin Five days at sea The Azores Four days at sea Hamburg One day at sea Le Havre

But as I mentioned, it wasn’t about the itinerary. It was really about taking a break and unwinding. Honestly, I came back thrilled.
Departure and boarding details to come
Hi there
Is the water from the cabin sinks drinkable?
Is the water from the cabin sinks drinkable?
We’re stopping over in Rovinj this coming May, and since we’ve already visited the main sights (port, church, etc.), is there a walk we can do on our own—no boat needed—that would fill a morning?
Thanks to anyone who knows the area…
My wife and I are going on a cruise on the MS Vesteralen on August 4th. The ship stays close to the coast to deliver mail and packages. My wife is a musician and is sensitive to the movement of the boat. Which deck and cabin should we choose?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
So, I booked this cruise...
I know CFC gets a lot of criticism—
- And that it’s not really like the ships I usually take.
But the destination really interested me...
So, I’m giving it a try...
I’m going in with an open mind, thinking I got a good deal, so I’m not expecting the same experience as when I travel with Yacht Club or The Haven.
We’ll see... soon!hi, we’re going on a cruise with MSC Virtuosa in the Caribbean. Has anyone done this cruise before and could give us some tips for excursions on the different islands? Thanks for your help
😉Hi there,
A few months ago, CFC put the EN VOGUE experience on sale, departing from Dunkirk.
I booked this package to test the boat and onboard services for myself.
I’d read a lot of reviews mentioning numerous issues on board, so I wanted to see for myself what it was really like…
Okay, I’ll stop rambling… The package included boarding at 6 PM on Friday, dinner, a show, an overnight stay, and breakfast. We chose an interior cabin for this experience—since the boat wasn’t leaving the dock, we didn’t see the point in paying more… All in all, it cost 130 € per person. My mom joined us; she got the same cabin for 130 € with no single occupancy supplement.
We’d checked in online to board faster. We took the train to DUNKIRK, then a taxi to the shuttle pavilion—7 € for the ride. When we arrived at the pavilion, we were told to wait because there was a connection issue with check-in. Great start… After about ten minutes, we were finally allowed to proceed. At the counter, they said they didn’t have our cabin cards and no record of our check-in… Very odd. With no solution, they put us on the bus and said we’d sort it out at reception. Perfect. We went through security, and they confiscated our water bottles—never seen that before! Then they said my mom had a corkscrew in her bag, so they searched it… but there was no corkscrew. Total amateur hour… They eventually dropped it.
We got on the bus for a ten-minute ride… We boarded the ship with a crew member and headed to reception. Turns out, we weren’t the only ones in this situation. The nightmare began… Only two staff members were handling all the issues, and everything seemed complicated. They told my mom her cabin had been given to someone else 😲. That was the last straw…
It took forever—they had to redo the entire check-in. Finally, they told my mom her cabin was good to go; they’d mixed her up with someone else… After a solid half-hour, we could finally head to our cabin.
I’m determined to test everything: the pool, jacuzzi, show, restaurant, spa, etc… TO BE CONTINUED
Okay, I’ll stop rambling… The package included boarding at 6 PM on Friday, dinner, a show, an overnight stay, and breakfast. We chose an interior cabin for this experience—since the boat wasn’t leaving the dock, we didn’t see the point in paying more… All in all, it cost 130 € per person. My mom joined us; she got the same cabin for 130 € with no single occupancy supplement.
We’d checked in online to board faster. We took the train to DUNKIRK, then a taxi to the shuttle pavilion—7 € for the ride. When we arrived at the pavilion, we were told to wait because there was a connection issue with check-in. Great start… After about ten minutes, we were finally allowed to proceed. At the counter, they said they didn’t have our cabin cards and no record of our check-in… Very odd. With no solution, they put us on the bus and said we’d sort it out at reception. Perfect. We went through security, and they confiscated our water bottles—never seen that before! Then they said my mom had a corkscrew in her bag, so they searched it… but there was no corkscrew. Total amateur hour… They eventually dropped it.
We got on the bus for a ten-minute ride… We boarded the ship with a crew member and headed to reception. Turns out, we weren’t the only ones in this situation. The nightmare began… Only two staff members were handling all the issues, and everything seemed complicated. They told my mom her cabin had been given to someone else 😲. That was the last straw…
It took forever—they had to redo the entire check-in. Finally, they told my mom her cabin was good to go; they’d mixed her up with someone else… After a solid half-hour, we could finally head to our cabin.
I’m determined to test everything: the pool, jacuzzi, show, restaurant, spa, etc… TO BE CONTINUED
Hi,
We received a promotion from our CFC agency offering cruises at up to 40-100% off, and among other details: CFC organizes parking for departures from Dunkirk.
"Unattended parking located about 12 minutes away, fenced off with barriers, at a rate of 10 € per day. Drop off passengers and luggage at the Model Pavilion, and a CFC shuttle will take you from the parking lot to the Model Pavilion every 15-20 minutes. Same for disembarkation. You can book through your agency or on their website. No refunds if the booking is canceled; payment is due at reservation."
Have a great day,
Guylène
PS: Personally, we’d rather keep our vehicle in a free, supervised parking lot and take a taxi to the Model Pavilion.
Hi there,
In June we’re taking a cruise called "Pearls of the Baltic" on board Renaissance CFC Cruises—with stops in Kiel (Germany), Gdańsk (Poland), Rønne (Bornholm), Copenhagen (Denmark), and Gothenburg (Sweden).
This layover in Gothenburg doesn’t really inspire me—could you tell me what’s worth seeing? Are there locals offering excursions around the area by van right when you leave the port, like you often see on Caribbean cruises?
I saw there’s a hop-on hop-off bus, but I’m not sure if there’s a stop near the terminal.
What are your suggestions? Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This layover in Gothenburg doesn’t really inspire me—could you tell me what’s worth seeing? Are there locals offering excursions around the area by van right when you leave the port, like you often see on Caribbean cruises?
I saw there’s a hop-on hop-off bus, but I’m not sure if there’s a stop near the terminal.
What are your suggestions? Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi! On June 10th, we’re heading off on a 10-day Baltic Sea cruise with CFC Cruises’ *Renaissance*. We’ll be stopping in Copenhagen, and we’re planning to take the City Sightseeing hop-on hop-off buses to explore the city with multiple stops. Could anyone tell me which quay cruise ships usually dock at and how to get from the quay to the nearest stop to board the tour bus? Thanks for your tips and suggestions!