Forêt d'Azrou, gorges du Ziz, Imilchil, gorges du Toudra et du Dadès en transport en commun?
by Jeremytex
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, je vous contacte car je suis actuellement en vacances au Maroc avec ma copine. On y reste pendant 1 mois et pour le moment, nous n'avons fait que des villes en 6-7 jours (à part les cascades d'akchour et les ruines de volubilis).
Cependant , nous souhaitons contrairement à nos voyages précédents ne pas louer de voiture et être dépendant seulement des transports en commun mais on se rend compte que c'est aussi la raison pour laquelle on ne fait que des villes pour le moment et on aimerait bien voir plus d'endroits naturels tels que ceux je vous ai cité dans le tître.
Pour le moment, on est rendu à Meknès et l'objectif est de passer par merzouga, ouarzazate, la vallée du draa pour ensuite rejoindre le sud d'Agadir et enfin retourner à Marrakech par les montagnes probablement.
Et le problème est qu'il y a plein d'étapes qu'on aimerait faire entre ces destinations telles que la Forêt d'azrou, les gorges du ziz, Imichil, les gorges du toudra et du dès mais on ne sait pas si cela est possible d'atteindre ces endroits en bus ou en taxi et si cela est possible, quel en serait le prix? Cordialement.
Jérémy.
Bonjour,
Pour le Ziz, pas de problème. La grande route suit la vallée. Tous les bus et grands taxis vous arrêteront où vous voulez sur la route. Pour repartir de votre arrêt, par contre, ça peut être un peu long. renseignez vous sur place pour connaître les points d'arrêts et les horaires stratégiques. De nombreux bus et grands taxis circulent sur cet axe à longueur de journée.
Pour la vallée du Todra : demander un taxi au départ de Tineghir. Depuis qu'il y a la nouvelle gare routière à Tineghir, je ne sais pas trop où est l'arrêt de ces taxis pour la vallée. Pour revenir de la vallée, il faut parfois patienter pour trouver vos places dans un taxi. Mais ils sillonnent la vallée à longueur de journée, ça prend pas des plombes d'attente, non plus. Sinon, les gorges sont à environ 6 ou 7 km de Tineghir. C'est sympa de les rejoindre à pied par la vallée, aussi.
Pour la vallée du Dades : il faut prendre une navette ou un grand taxi au centre de Boumalne du Dades. Préférez les jours de souks, il y a plein de navettes qui vont vers la vallée aux environs de 14h. Le vendredi aussi (après la prière). Ils vous arrêtent où vous le voulez. Pour le retour, préférez le matin, tôt si possible.
Pour les prix : partez du principe qu'en transports en commun (bus, grand taxi, navette), c'est environ 3-4 dh les 10 km (par personne, quand toutes les places du grand taxis sont occupées). Dans les navettes (grands fourgons, utilisés essentiellement par les Marocains), c'est aussi environ 3-4 dh/personne pour 10 km, même si toutes les places ne sont pas prises. les grands taxis sont un chouia plus cher. A peine.
cordialement, Murielle
Pour le Ziz, pas de problème. La grande route suit la vallée. Tous les bus et grands taxis vous arrêteront où vous voulez sur la route. Pour repartir de votre arrêt, par contre, ça peut être un peu long. renseignez vous sur place pour connaître les points d'arrêts et les horaires stratégiques. De nombreux bus et grands taxis circulent sur cet axe à longueur de journée.
Pour la vallée du Todra : demander un taxi au départ de Tineghir. Depuis qu'il y a la nouvelle gare routière à Tineghir, je ne sais pas trop où est l'arrêt de ces taxis pour la vallée. Pour revenir de la vallée, il faut parfois patienter pour trouver vos places dans un taxi. Mais ils sillonnent la vallée à longueur de journée, ça prend pas des plombes d'attente, non plus. Sinon, les gorges sont à environ 6 ou 7 km de Tineghir. C'est sympa de les rejoindre à pied par la vallée, aussi.
Pour la vallée du Dades : il faut prendre une navette ou un grand taxi au centre de Boumalne du Dades. Préférez les jours de souks, il y a plein de navettes qui vont vers la vallée aux environs de 14h. Le vendredi aussi (après la prière). Ils vous arrêtent où vous le voulez. Pour le retour, préférez le matin, tôt si possible.
Pour les prix : partez du principe qu'en transports en commun (bus, grand taxi, navette), c'est environ 3-4 dh les 10 km (par personne, quand toutes les places du grand taxis sont occupées). Dans les navettes (grands fourgons, utilisés essentiellement par les Marocains), c'est aussi environ 3-4 dh/personne pour 10 km, même si toutes les places ne sont pas prises. les grands taxis sont un chouia plus cher. A peine.
cordialement, Murielle
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponses, ça va énormément nous aider! Du coup, j'en profite pour te demander et aux autres si cela est également possible d'arriver aux cascades d'ouzoud, à la vallée d'ait-bougmez et au parc national de tazzeka en transport en commun aussi?
Cordialement.
Cordialement.
Pour les Ait Bougmez , bus jusqu’a Azilah et ensuite grand taxi qui dessert jusqu’a Tabant si je me souviens bien .Superbe vallée , pas trop envahie , aller y vite .
Pour Ouzoud bus et ensuite les grands taxis attendent au croisement .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Arf ...Azilal , mais tout le monde auras compris même toi ......😉
Ce doit être la chaleur 🤪
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Salut,
Pour Tazzeka, tu trouveras les grands taxis sur Taza.. Attention, renseignez vous bien du retour avant d'y aller, ce n'est pas une région très touristique... à tort... Pas si simple que ça sans véhicule quand même et hébergement limité si vous êtes à pince... Plutôt long et compliqué par d'autres routes.
Bougemez, il y a beaucoup eu de post la dessus...
Grands taxis ou camionettes style merco 307 ou 308D... voir plus vieux dans le coin... Demnate ou Azilal.. Tu trouveras facilement.
Pour info, quand tu es dans les bougemez, tu as des vieux 208D qui vont de l'autre côté sur la vallée des roses pour moins de 100 dhs...A prendre sur Tabant jusqu'à Kelaa possible. Du grand Maroc par là... 2 cols à 3000 et une vue sur le M'Goun superbe.
Pour Tazzeka, tu trouveras les grands taxis sur Taza.. Attention, renseignez vous bien du retour avant d'y aller, ce n'est pas une région très touristique... à tort... Pas si simple que ça sans véhicule quand même et hébergement limité si vous êtes à pince... Plutôt long et compliqué par d'autres routes.
Bougemez, il y a beaucoup eu de post la dessus...
Grands taxis ou camionettes style merco 307 ou 308D... voir plus vieux dans le coin... Demnate ou Azilal.. Tu trouveras facilement.
Pour info, quand tu es dans les bougemez, tu as des vieux 208D qui vont de l'autre côté sur la vallée des roses pour moins de 100 dhs...A prendre sur Tabant jusqu'à Kelaa possible. Du grand Maroc par là... 2 cols à 3000 et une vue sur le M'Goun superbe.
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Merci beaucoup pour vos reponses!
Groschat, est-ce que le Minibus dont tu parles est possible dans le sens inverse, c'est-à-dire en partant de Kalaa?
De plus, nous sommes à Midemt et nous avons vu qu'il y avait le village d'aouli à faire à côté. Vous savez si c'est possible d'y aller en taxi?
Cordialement.
Oui, les trucks font aussi ce trajet en partant de Kelaa. Si tu peux, quitte à donner un billet en plus... Il faut tenter d'avoir les 2 places de devant... La vue sera plus sympa que dans le cul et plus confortable... ça chahute un peu sur cette piste.. 😉
Pour Aouli, c'est Antoine de Maximy qui t'as inspiré ? 😁 Je ne trouve pas que ce soit une obligation d'aller voir les mines encore plus quand on est sans voiture... Tu as bien mieux à faire dans les environs... Je connais aussi de superbes coins dans les environs de l'Ayachi mais sans caisse, ce sera pour une autre fois.
Garde toi des jours pour rejoindre la vallée des roses avec par exemple si tu veux t'imprégner des hauts plateaux cet itinéraire :
Puisque tu as mentionné les gorges du Ziz, va jusqu'à Goulmina, de là tu iras jusqu'à Amellago via les méconnues gorges de Ghriss. Puis Ait Hanni et tu remontes sur Agoudal via l'un des plus haut col du Maroc, le Tirherhouzine. ( en marchant 1 grosse demi heure, point de vue difficile d'accès mais ultra photogénique )... De Agoudal, tu peux monter sur Imilchil ou redescendre sur les gorges du Dadès via le tizi Ouanno... En passant, tu peux visiter une grotte particulière et l'une des plus belles arches naturelles du Maroc. ( zut, on le place où le Todgha 😂)
Mini bus ou grand taxi font ces itinéraires...
Pour crécher ou les petits plans randos hors sentiers battus, n'hésite pas.
Pour Aouli, c'est Antoine de Maximy qui t'as inspiré ? 😁 Je ne trouve pas que ce soit une obligation d'aller voir les mines encore plus quand on est sans voiture... Tu as bien mieux à faire dans les environs... Je connais aussi de superbes coins dans les environs de l'Ayachi mais sans caisse, ce sera pour une autre fois.
Garde toi des jours pour rejoindre la vallée des roses avec par exemple si tu veux t'imprégner des hauts plateaux cet itinéraire :
Puisque tu as mentionné les gorges du Ziz, va jusqu'à Goulmina, de là tu iras jusqu'à Amellago via les méconnues gorges de Ghriss. Puis Ait Hanni et tu remontes sur Agoudal via l'un des plus haut col du Maroc, le Tirherhouzine. ( en marchant 1 grosse demi heure, point de vue difficile d'accès mais ultra photogénique )... De Agoudal, tu peux monter sur Imilchil ou redescendre sur les gorges du Dadès via le tizi Ouanno... En passant, tu peux visiter une grotte particulière et l'une des plus belles arches naturelles du Maroc. ( zut, on le place où le Todgha 😂)
Mini bus ou grand taxi font ces itinéraires...
Pour crécher ou les petits plans randos hors sentiers battus, n'hésite pas.
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
tu remontes sur Agoudal via l'un des plus haut col du Maroc, le Tirherhouzine. ( en marchant 1 grosse demi heure, point de vue difficile d'accès mais ultra photogénique )
Bonjour! Franchement, Groschats, même en connaissant parfaitement ce secteur je ne vois pas trop de quoi tu parles, là... Il y a bien un point de vue superbe (et insoupçonnable) au N-O du point 2635, mais c'est à 5 minutes à pied du goudron.

Bonjour! Franchement, Groschats, même en connaissant parfaitement ce secteur je ne vois pas trop de quoi tu parles, là... Il y a bien un point de vue superbe (et insoupçonnable) au N-O du point 2635, mais c'est à 5 minutes à pied du goudron.

C'est parce que tu n'as pas pris en compte un mot important... " photogénique "...
La photo pour moi ce n'est pas que prendre un souvenir de ce que mes yeux voient.... C'est une mise en scène, on compose sa photo de façon à montrer sa vision d'un point de vue différent...
L'endroit dont tu parles, qui part du petit parking sur la droite en allant sur Imilchil monte sur cette petite bute de caillasse en 5 mn en effet...
Il ne s'agit pas d'endroits nouveaux que tu ne connais pas mais d'un placement qui permet de voir autrement ce que toi tu vois en 5 mn de marche.
Question de photographie, pas de connaissance du Maroc. J'ai trouvé ça car utiliser du 16 mn pour réussir à avoir tout dans la boite ne me satisfaisait pas et je trouvais ça vide dans la compo mais c'est vrai c'est très beau visuellement. 😉
La photo pour moi ce n'est pas que prendre un souvenir de ce que mes yeux voient.... C'est une mise en scène, on compose sa photo de façon à montrer sa vision d'un point de vue différent...
L'endroit dont tu parles, qui part du petit parking sur la droite en allant sur Imilchil monte sur cette petite bute de caillasse en 5 mn en effet...
Il ne s'agit pas d'endroits nouveaux que tu ne connais pas mais d'un placement qui permet de voir autrement ce que toi tu vois en 5 mn de marche.
Question de photographie, pas de connaissance du Maroc. J'ai trouvé ça car utiliser du 16 mn pour réussir à avoir tout dans la boite ne me satisfaisait pas et je trouvais ça vide dans la compo mais c'est vrai c'est très beau visuellement. 😉
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Bonjour ,
Trajet fait autrefois avec bus CTM : depart Meknes vers 12H30 , bus passe par Fes , Ifrane, Azrou, Midelt , Rich , gorges du ZIZ , arrivée à Er Rachidia à 20 H. Beau trajet .
Bus CTM Er Rachidia à 6H30 vers Tinerhir , Boulmane puis Ouarzazate ou tu peux attraper une correspondance CTM pour Taroudant vers midi et demie , arrivée à 17 heures , le bus continue jusqu'à Agadir.
Bon voyage
Trajet fait autrefois avec bus CTM : depart Meknes vers 12H30 , bus passe par Fes , Ifrane, Azrou, Midelt , Rich , gorges du ZIZ , arrivée à Er Rachidia à 20 H. Beau trajet .
Bus CTM Er Rachidia à 6H30 vers Tinerhir , Boulmane puis Ouarzazate ou tu peux attraper une correspondance CTM pour Taroudant vers midi et demie , arrivée à 17 heures , le bus continue jusqu'à Agadir.
Bon voyage
Pour moi si je pense que c'est important... Une question a été posé. On est là pour donner nos plans...
Pourquoi sinon intervenir sans partager tes connaissance ? 🤔 Et encore me discréditer en passant...
Moi j'aimerais bien connaître ton endroit au col accessible en 5 mn... 😉
Pourquoi sinon intervenir sans partager tes connaissance ? 🤔 Et encore me discréditer en passant...
Moi j'aimerais bien connaître ton endroit au col accessible en 5 mn... 😉
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Moi j'aimerais bien connaître ton endroit au col accessible en 5 mn... 😉
Bonsoir, Je l'ai dit dans mon premier message : au N-O du point 2635. Voir la carte. C'est au-dessus de l’à-pic de la falaise de l'Akka n'Ougoulzi. Le col est plus au sud, hors de cette carte ; l'endroit en question est repéré par la mire rouge.

Bonsoir, Je l'ai dit dans mon premier message : au N-O du point 2635. Voir la carte. C'est au-dessus de l’à-pic de la falaise de l'Akka n'Ougoulzi. Le col est plus au sud, hors de cette carte ; l'endroit en question est repéré par la mire rouge.

Juste en dessous du 703 légèrement sur la gauche... Tu le vois le parking dont je t'ai parlé ? 😎
Ou faut peut être aussi remettre en question la notion du mot parking... 😋
Vraiment, je ne sais pas où tu veux en venir JF. En plus, je suis sportif et je peux t'affirmer que de la route au point rouge en 5 mn... Tu dois être fort à la course...
Je te taquine hein vu que t'aimes jouer sur les minutes...😏
Je n'ai rien contre toi. Je ne comprends pas c'est tout.
Ou faut peut être aussi remettre en question la notion du mot parking... 😋
Vraiment, je ne sais pas où tu veux en venir JF. En plus, je suis sportif et je peux t'affirmer que de la route au point rouge en 5 mn... Tu dois être fort à la course...
Je te taquine hein vu que t'aimes jouer sur les minutes...😏
Je n'ai rien contre toi. Je ne comprends pas c'est tout.
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Bonjour,
je peux peut-être vous être utile, j’habite la ville de Beni Mellal. Si vous avez des questions, n’hésitez pas !
Rebonjour, j'ai à nouveau besoin de votre aide! Du coup, on a fait beaucoup de route depuis Merzouga, on est allé jusqu'à Zagora mais c'était très compliqué de passer par Foum ZGUID (seulement un bus à 7h du matin) et on ne voulait pas rester une journée de plus a zagora avec la chaleur donc on est remonté jusqu'à ouarzazate et maintenant, on est sur la côte à Mirleft au sud d'Agadir.
Je voulais vous poser quelques questions. Est-ce que vous savez si certains endroits sont accessibles en taxi ou en bus , à savoir la palmeraie de tighmert depuis Guelmin? Les gorges d'ait-mansour depuis Tafraout? Ilmil depuis Taroudant? La vallée du paradis depuis Agadir ?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Je voulais vous poser quelques questions. Est-ce que vous savez si certains endroits sont accessibles en taxi ou en bus , à savoir la palmeraie de tighmert depuis Guelmin? Les gorges d'ait-mansour depuis Tafraout? Ilmil depuis Taroudant? La vallée du paradis depuis Agadir ?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Aucun souci pour aller a tighmert depuis guelmim
On y va en grand taxi qu on prend sur la place du souk en descendant. (pas a la gare routiere du haut)
Pour en revenir tu vas sur le goudron y a des grands taxis qui rodent a la recherche de client. Jamais attendu plus de 15 mn...
Tu peux aussi aller a Fask de la meme facon.
Y a aussi des bus mais j ai pas percute sur les horaires (un par heure on m a dit mais pas vu) et c est le meme prix que les grands taxis a 1 dh pres. Meme endroit
https://www.myatlas.com/beatrice/a-la-porte-du-desert-guelmim-et-ses-environs
Tu peux aussi aller a Fask de la meme facon.
Y a aussi des bus mais j ai pas percute sur les horaires (un par heure on m a dit mais pas vu) et c est le meme prix que les grands taxis a 1 dh pres. Meme endroit
https://www.myatlas.com/beatrice/a-la-porte-du-desert-guelmim-et-ses-environs
De taroudant a Imlil
Grands taxis et bus
Je pense qu il faut passer par Ouled Behrel puis remonter sur Asni. Ensuite Asni Imlil.
Je vois pas de traverse qui eviterait de passer par Asni mais tu peux voir ca sur place.
J ai pas compris : tu trouves complique de prendre un bus a 7 h du matin ? Dommage car ces routes sont magnifiques et Foum Zguid vaut d etre connue. 😉
J ai pas compris : tu trouves complique de prendre un bus a 7 h du matin ? Dommage car ces routes sont magnifiques et Foum Zguid vaut d etre connue. 😉
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Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!