Forêt d'Azrou, gorges du Ziz, Imilchil, gorges du Toudra et du Dadès en transport en commun?
by Jeremytex
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, je vous contacte car je suis actuellement en vacances au Maroc avec ma copine. On y reste pendant 1 mois et pour le moment, nous n'avons fait que des villes en 6-7 jours (à part les cascades d'akchour et les ruines de volubilis).
Cependant , nous souhaitons contrairement à nos voyages précédents ne pas louer de voiture et être dépendant seulement des transports en commun mais on se rend compte que c'est aussi la raison pour laquelle on ne fait que des villes pour le moment et on aimerait bien voir plus d'endroits naturels tels que ceux je vous ai cité dans le tître.
Pour le moment, on est rendu à Meknès et l'objectif est de passer par merzouga, ouarzazate, la vallée du draa pour ensuite rejoindre le sud d'Agadir et enfin retourner à Marrakech par les montagnes probablement.
Et le problème est qu'il y a plein d'étapes qu'on aimerait faire entre ces destinations telles que la Forêt d'azrou, les gorges du ziz, Imichil, les gorges du toudra et du dès mais on ne sait pas si cela est possible d'atteindre ces endroits en bus ou en taxi et si cela est possible, quel en serait le prix? Cordialement.
Jérémy.
Bonjour,
Pour le Ziz, pas de problème. La grande route suit la vallée. Tous les bus et grands taxis vous arrêteront où vous voulez sur la route. Pour repartir de votre arrêt, par contre, ça peut être un peu long. renseignez vous sur place pour connaître les points d'arrêts et les horaires stratégiques. De nombreux bus et grands taxis circulent sur cet axe à longueur de journée.
Pour la vallée du Todra : demander un taxi au départ de Tineghir. Depuis qu'il y a la nouvelle gare routière à Tineghir, je ne sais pas trop où est l'arrêt de ces taxis pour la vallée. Pour revenir de la vallée, il faut parfois patienter pour trouver vos places dans un taxi. Mais ils sillonnent la vallée à longueur de journée, ça prend pas des plombes d'attente, non plus. Sinon, les gorges sont à environ 6 ou 7 km de Tineghir. C'est sympa de les rejoindre à pied par la vallée, aussi.
Pour la vallée du Dades : il faut prendre une navette ou un grand taxi au centre de Boumalne du Dades. Préférez les jours de souks, il y a plein de navettes qui vont vers la vallée aux environs de 14h. Le vendredi aussi (après la prière). Ils vous arrêtent où vous le voulez. Pour le retour, préférez le matin, tôt si possible.
Pour les prix : partez du principe qu'en transports en commun (bus, grand taxi, navette), c'est environ 3-4 dh les 10 km (par personne, quand toutes les places du grand taxis sont occupées). Dans les navettes (grands fourgons, utilisés essentiellement par les Marocains), c'est aussi environ 3-4 dh/personne pour 10 km, même si toutes les places ne sont pas prises. les grands taxis sont un chouia plus cher. A peine.
cordialement, Murielle
Pour le Ziz, pas de problème. La grande route suit la vallée. Tous les bus et grands taxis vous arrêteront où vous voulez sur la route. Pour repartir de votre arrêt, par contre, ça peut être un peu long. renseignez vous sur place pour connaître les points d'arrêts et les horaires stratégiques. De nombreux bus et grands taxis circulent sur cet axe à longueur de journée.
Pour la vallée du Todra : demander un taxi au départ de Tineghir. Depuis qu'il y a la nouvelle gare routière à Tineghir, je ne sais pas trop où est l'arrêt de ces taxis pour la vallée. Pour revenir de la vallée, il faut parfois patienter pour trouver vos places dans un taxi. Mais ils sillonnent la vallée à longueur de journée, ça prend pas des plombes d'attente, non plus. Sinon, les gorges sont à environ 6 ou 7 km de Tineghir. C'est sympa de les rejoindre à pied par la vallée, aussi.
Pour la vallée du Dades : il faut prendre une navette ou un grand taxi au centre de Boumalne du Dades. Préférez les jours de souks, il y a plein de navettes qui vont vers la vallée aux environs de 14h. Le vendredi aussi (après la prière). Ils vous arrêtent où vous le voulez. Pour le retour, préférez le matin, tôt si possible.
Pour les prix : partez du principe qu'en transports en commun (bus, grand taxi, navette), c'est environ 3-4 dh les 10 km (par personne, quand toutes les places du grand taxis sont occupées). Dans les navettes (grands fourgons, utilisés essentiellement par les Marocains), c'est aussi environ 3-4 dh/personne pour 10 km, même si toutes les places ne sont pas prises. les grands taxis sont un chouia plus cher. A peine.
cordialement, Murielle
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponses, ça va énormément nous aider! Du coup, j'en profite pour te demander et aux autres si cela est également possible d'arriver aux cascades d'ouzoud, à la vallée d'ait-bougmez et au parc national de tazzeka en transport en commun aussi?
Cordialement.
Cordialement.
Pour les Ait Bougmez , bus jusqu’a Azilah et ensuite grand taxi qui dessert jusqu’a Tabant si je me souviens bien .Superbe vallée , pas trop envahie , aller y vite .
Pour Ouzoud bus et ensuite les grands taxis attendent au croisement .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Arf ...Azilal , mais tout le monde auras compris même toi ......😉
Ce doit être la chaleur 🤪
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Salut,
Pour Tazzeka, tu trouveras les grands taxis sur Taza.. Attention, renseignez vous bien du retour avant d'y aller, ce n'est pas une région très touristique... à tort... Pas si simple que ça sans véhicule quand même et hébergement limité si vous êtes à pince... Plutôt long et compliqué par d'autres routes.
Bougemez, il y a beaucoup eu de post la dessus...
Grands taxis ou camionettes style merco 307 ou 308D... voir plus vieux dans le coin... Demnate ou Azilal.. Tu trouveras facilement.
Pour info, quand tu es dans les bougemez, tu as des vieux 208D qui vont de l'autre côté sur la vallée des roses pour moins de 100 dhs...A prendre sur Tabant jusqu'à Kelaa possible. Du grand Maroc par là... 2 cols à 3000 et une vue sur le M'Goun superbe.
Pour Tazzeka, tu trouveras les grands taxis sur Taza.. Attention, renseignez vous bien du retour avant d'y aller, ce n'est pas une région très touristique... à tort... Pas si simple que ça sans véhicule quand même et hébergement limité si vous êtes à pince... Plutôt long et compliqué par d'autres routes.
Bougemez, il y a beaucoup eu de post la dessus...
Grands taxis ou camionettes style merco 307 ou 308D... voir plus vieux dans le coin... Demnate ou Azilal.. Tu trouveras facilement.
Pour info, quand tu es dans les bougemez, tu as des vieux 208D qui vont de l'autre côté sur la vallée des roses pour moins de 100 dhs...A prendre sur Tabant jusqu'à Kelaa possible. Du grand Maroc par là... 2 cols à 3000 et une vue sur le M'Goun superbe.
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Merci beaucoup pour vos reponses!
Groschat, est-ce que le Minibus dont tu parles est possible dans le sens inverse, c'est-à-dire en partant de Kalaa?
De plus, nous sommes à Midemt et nous avons vu qu'il y avait le village d'aouli à faire à côté. Vous savez si c'est possible d'y aller en taxi?
Cordialement.
Oui, les trucks font aussi ce trajet en partant de Kelaa. Si tu peux, quitte à donner un billet en plus... Il faut tenter d'avoir les 2 places de devant... La vue sera plus sympa que dans le cul et plus confortable... ça chahute un peu sur cette piste.. 😉
Pour Aouli, c'est Antoine de Maximy qui t'as inspiré ? 😁 Je ne trouve pas que ce soit une obligation d'aller voir les mines encore plus quand on est sans voiture... Tu as bien mieux à faire dans les environs... Je connais aussi de superbes coins dans les environs de l'Ayachi mais sans caisse, ce sera pour une autre fois.
Garde toi des jours pour rejoindre la vallée des roses avec par exemple si tu veux t'imprégner des hauts plateaux cet itinéraire :
Puisque tu as mentionné les gorges du Ziz, va jusqu'à Goulmina, de là tu iras jusqu'à Amellago via les méconnues gorges de Ghriss. Puis Ait Hanni et tu remontes sur Agoudal via l'un des plus haut col du Maroc, le Tirherhouzine. ( en marchant 1 grosse demi heure, point de vue difficile d'accès mais ultra photogénique )... De Agoudal, tu peux monter sur Imilchil ou redescendre sur les gorges du Dadès via le tizi Ouanno... En passant, tu peux visiter une grotte particulière et l'une des plus belles arches naturelles du Maroc. ( zut, on le place où le Todgha 😂)
Mini bus ou grand taxi font ces itinéraires...
Pour crécher ou les petits plans randos hors sentiers battus, n'hésite pas.
Pour Aouli, c'est Antoine de Maximy qui t'as inspiré ? 😁 Je ne trouve pas que ce soit une obligation d'aller voir les mines encore plus quand on est sans voiture... Tu as bien mieux à faire dans les environs... Je connais aussi de superbes coins dans les environs de l'Ayachi mais sans caisse, ce sera pour une autre fois.
Garde toi des jours pour rejoindre la vallée des roses avec par exemple si tu veux t'imprégner des hauts plateaux cet itinéraire :
Puisque tu as mentionné les gorges du Ziz, va jusqu'à Goulmina, de là tu iras jusqu'à Amellago via les méconnues gorges de Ghriss. Puis Ait Hanni et tu remontes sur Agoudal via l'un des plus haut col du Maroc, le Tirherhouzine. ( en marchant 1 grosse demi heure, point de vue difficile d'accès mais ultra photogénique )... De Agoudal, tu peux monter sur Imilchil ou redescendre sur les gorges du Dadès via le tizi Ouanno... En passant, tu peux visiter une grotte particulière et l'une des plus belles arches naturelles du Maroc. ( zut, on le place où le Todgha 😂)
Mini bus ou grand taxi font ces itinéraires...
Pour crécher ou les petits plans randos hors sentiers battus, n'hésite pas.
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
tu remontes sur Agoudal via l'un des plus haut col du Maroc, le Tirherhouzine. ( en marchant 1 grosse demi heure, point de vue difficile d'accès mais ultra photogénique )
Bonjour! Franchement, Groschats, même en connaissant parfaitement ce secteur je ne vois pas trop de quoi tu parles, là... Il y a bien un point de vue superbe (et insoupçonnable) au N-O du point 2635, mais c'est à 5 minutes à pied du goudron.

Bonjour! Franchement, Groschats, même en connaissant parfaitement ce secteur je ne vois pas trop de quoi tu parles, là... Il y a bien un point de vue superbe (et insoupçonnable) au N-O du point 2635, mais c'est à 5 minutes à pied du goudron.

C'est parce que tu n'as pas pris en compte un mot important... " photogénique "...
La photo pour moi ce n'est pas que prendre un souvenir de ce que mes yeux voient.... C'est une mise en scène, on compose sa photo de façon à montrer sa vision d'un point de vue différent...
L'endroit dont tu parles, qui part du petit parking sur la droite en allant sur Imilchil monte sur cette petite bute de caillasse en 5 mn en effet...
Il ne s'agit pas d'endroits nouveaux que tu ne connais pas mais d'un placement qui permet de voir autrement ce que toi tu vois en 5 mn de marche.
Question de photographie, pas de connaissance du Maroc. J'ai trouvé ça car utiliser du 16 mn pour réussir à avoir tout dans la boite ne me satisfaisait pas et je trouvais ça vide dans la compo mais c'est vrai c'est très beau visuellement. 😉
La photo pour moi ce n'est pas que prendre un souvenir de ce que mes yeux voient.... C'est une mise en scène, on compose sa photo de façon à montrer sa vision d'un point de vue différent...
L'endroit dont tu parles, qui part du petit parking sur la droite en allant sur Imilchil monte sur cette petite bute de caillasse en 5 mn en effet...
Il ne s'agit pas d'endroits nouveaux que tu ne connais pas mais d'un placement qui permet de voir autrement ce que toi tu vois en 5 mn de marche.
Question de photographie, pas de connaissance du Maroc. J'ai trouvé ça car utiliser du 16 mn pour réussir à avoir tout dans la boite ne me satisfaisait pas et je trouvais ça vide dans la compo mais c'est vrai c'est très beau visuellement. 😉
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Bonjour ,
Trajet fait autrefois avec bus CTM : depart Meknes vers 12H30 , bus passe par Fes , Ifrane, Azrou, Midelt , Rich , gorges du ZIZ , arrivée à Er Rachidia à 20 H. Beau trajet .
Bus CTM Er Rachidia à 6H30 vers Tinerhir , Boulmane puis Ouarzazate ou tu peux attraper une correspondance CTM pour Taroudant vers midi et demie , arrivée à 17 heures , le bus continue jusqu'à Agadir.
Bon voyage
Trajet fait autrefois avec bus CTM : depart Meknes vers 12H30 , bus passe par Fes , Ifrane, Azrou, Midelt , Rich , gorges du ZIZ , arrivée à Er Rachidia à 20 H. Beau trajet .
Bus CTM Er Rachidia à 6H30 vers Tinerhir , Boulmane puis Ouarzazate ou tu peux attraper une correspondance CTM pour Taroudant vers midi et demie , arrivée à 17 heures , le bus continue jusqu'à Agadir.
Bon voyage
Pour moi si je pense que c'est important... Une question a été posé. On est là pour donner nos plans...
Pourquoi sinon intervenir sans partager tes connaissance ? 🤔 Et encore me discréditer en passant...
Moi j'aimerais bien connaître ton endroit au col accessible en 5 mn... 😉
Pourquoi sinon intervenir sans partager tes connaissance ? 🤔 Et encore me discréditer en passant...
Moi j'aimerais bien connaître ton endroit au col accessible en 5 mn... 😉
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Moi j'aimerais bien connaître ton endroit au col accessible en 5 mn... 😉
Bonsoir, Je l'ai dit dans mon premier message : au N-O du point 2635. Voir la carte. C'est au-dessus de l’à-pic de la falaise de l'Akka n'Ougoulzi. Le col est plus au sud, hors de cette carte ; l'endroit en question est repéré par la mire rouge.

Bonsoir, Je l'ai dit dans mon premier message : au N-O du point 2635. Voir la carte. C'est au-dessus de l’à-pic de la falaise de l'Akka n'Ougoulzi. Le col est plus au sud, hors de cette carte ; l'endroit en question est repéré par la mire rouge.

Juste en dessous du 703 légèrement sur la gauche... Tu le vois le parking dont je t'ai parlé ? 😎
Ou faut peut être aussi remettre en question la notion du mot parking... 😋
Vraiment, je ne sais pas où tu veux en venir JF. En plus, je suis sportif et je peux t'affirmer que de la route au point rouge en 5 mn... Tu dois être fort à la course...
Je te taquine hein vu que t'aimes jouer sur les minutes...😏
Je n'ai rien contre toi. Je ne comprends pas c'est tout.
Ou faut peut être aussi remettre en question la notion du mot parking... 😋
Vraiment, je ne sais pas où tu veux en venir JF. En plus, je suis sportif et je peux t'affirmer que de la route au point rouge en 5 mn... Tu dois être fort à la course...
Je te taquine hein vu que t'aimes jouer sur les minutes...😏
Je n'ai rien contre toi. Je ne comprends pas c'est tout.
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Bonjour,
je peux peut-être vous être utile, j’habite la ville de Beni Mellal. Si vous avez des questions, n’hésitez pas !
Rebonjour, j'ai à nouveau besoin de votre aide! Du coup, on a fait beaucoup de route depuis Merzouga, on est allé jusqu'à Zagora mais c'était très compliqué de passer par Foum ZGUID (seulement un bus à 7h du matin) et on ne voulait pas rester une journée de plus a zagora avec la chaleur donc on est remonté jusqu'à ouarzazate et maintenant, on est sur la côte à Mirleft au sud d'Agadir.
Je voulais vous poser quelques questions. Est-ce que vous savez si certains endroits sont accessibles en taxi ou en bus , à savoir la palmeraie de tighmert depuis Guelmin? Les gorges d'ait-mansour depuis Tafraout? Ilmil depuis Taroudant? La vallée du paradis depuis Agadir ?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Je voulais vous poser quelques questions. Est-ce que vous savez si certains endroits sont accessibles en taxi ou en bus , à savoir la palmeraie de tighmert depuis Guelmin? Les gorges d'ait-mansour depuis Tafraout? Ilmil depuis Taroudant? La vallée du paradis depuis Agadir ?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Aucun souci pour aller a tighmert depuis guelmim
On y va en grand taxi qu on prend sur la place du souk en descendant. (pas a la gare routiere du haut)
Pour en revenir tu vas sur le goudron y a des grands taxis qui rodent a la recherche de client. Jamais attendu plus de 15 mn...
Tu peux aussi aller a Fask de la meme facon.
Y a aussi des bus mais j ai pas percute sur les horaires (un par heure on m a dit mais pas vu) et c est le meme prix que les grands taxis a 1 dh pres. Meme endroit
https://www.myatlas.com/beatrice/a-la-porte-du-desert-guelmim-et-ses-environs
Tu peux aussi aller a Fask de la meme facon.
Y a aussi des bus mais j ai pas percute sur les horaires (un par heure on m a dit mais pas vu) et c est le meme prix que les grands taxis a 1 dh pres. Meme endroit
https://www.myatlas.com/beatrice/a-la-porte-du-desert-guelmim-et-ses-environs
De taroudant a Imlil
Grands taxis et bus
Je pense qu il faut passer par Ouled Behrel puis remonter sur Asni. Ensuite Asni Imlil.
Je vois pas de traverse qui eviterait de passer par Asni mais tu peux voir ca sur place.
J ai pas compris : tu trouves complique de prendre un bus a 7 h du matin ? Dommage car ces routes sont magnifiques et Foum Zguid vaut d etre connue. 😉
J ai pas compris : tu trouves complique de prendre un bus a 7 h du matin ? Dommage car ces routes sont magnifiques et Foum Zguid vaut d etre connue. 😉
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Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
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Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
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It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
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Hello to all Morocco lovers,
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
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First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Hi
I’d like to know if the road between Msemrir and Tamttatouchte is doable with a standard car (Dacia Logan).
Thanks a lot
hi,
I’m looking for a country to visit for 10 days in February.
What do you recommend for a trip with some sunshine, hiking, and sightseeing?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
Hi there,
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.







