merci d'avance
Formalités pour revenir en France depuis le Maroc?
by Breizh29
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
🙁bonsoir,
j'ai un gros soucis qui m'embete bcp
en fait je suis venu passer un mes vacs avec mon epoux et mon fils, j'ai inviter une collegue et son fils d'un ans et demi a passer les vacances avec nous.
sur une air de repos en espagne j'ai pris un seul billet aller retour pour nous 5.
sur un coup de tete la personne que j'ai inviter a reserver aujourd'huit sans m'en parler , un bilet pour rentrer seule avec son fils mardi.
le souci c'est que j'ai peur que nous pose probleme pour nous lors de notre retour
mon mari avait appller l'agence au maroc ils ont dit qu'on va etre bloque a l'embarcadere😕
pour pouvoir passer faut justifier l'absence de 2 personnes, ou alors n cas de rapatriment !!
j y crois pas trop, pkoi on serait bloquer nous , l'essentiel c est qu'on a payer nos billets
s'il vous plait si vous avez des conseils a me donner pour echaper au devoir d'achter d'autre bilets , car on roule pas sur de l'or
merci d'avance
merci d'avance
votre message n'est pas clair du tout
tu veux dire qu'un enfant d'une autre personne va vous accompagner du maroc vers la france?
l'enfant a t il un passeport? nationalité?
tu veux dire qu'un enfant d'une autre personne va vous accompagner du maroc vers la france?
l'enfant a t il un passeport? nationalité?
Moi aussi, pareil, il n'est pas clair le message. Si vous preniez la peine de bien rédiger vos messages, vous auriez des réponses plus concrètes!
Les personnes qui devaient vous accompagner au Maroc sont-elles entrées sur le territoire marocain? Vous n'êtes pas le garant de cette personne et si elle n'est pas présente "à l'embarcadère" personne ne vous le reprochera. Du moment que vous ayez payé vos billets et que vous ne demandiez pas le remboursement pour les personnes absentes, personne ne vous demandera des comptes.
C'est un peu chelou cette histoire.
SALUT !!
Si je comprend bien ? vous êtes rentré au Maroc avec un véhicule et 5 passagers !! avec billet du bateau aller/r ? Vous n'êtes plus que 3 pour le retour ? Où est le problème ? vous avez en plus la possibilité de faire traverser gratuitement deux personnes .. Libre à vous d'avoir un billet de traverser maritime avec un nombre inférieur de passagers, le contraire serrait plutôt "un problème" Je ne me ferais pas de souci pour ça ..
Cordialement de PAPY
Si je comprend bien ? vous êtes rentré au Maroc avec un véhicule et 5 passagers !! avec billet du bateau aller/r ? Vous n'êtes plus que 3 pour le retour ? Où est le problème ? vous avez en plus la possibilité de faire traverser gratuitement deux personnes .. Libre à vous d'avoir un billet de traverser maritime avec un nombre inférieur de passagers, le contraire serrait plutôt "un problème" Je ne me ferais pas de souci pour ça ..
Cordialement de PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
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je suis ok avec papy
cela n'est pas un problème, et cela peut vous donner la possibilité de'inviter quelqu'un à traverser avec vous, ou même proposer la traversée un peu moins chère à deux personnes, a vous de voir, et no problèmo, vous seriez 5
je le trouve sympa ta collègue, elle ne vont pas être faciles le relations après ça 😕
bon courage
hadinna
cela n'est pas un problème, et cela peut vous donner la possibilité de'inviter quelqu'un à traverser avec vous, ou même proposer la traversée un peu moins chère à deux personnes, a vous de voir, et no problèmo, vous seriez 5
je le trouve sympa ta collègue, elle ne vont pas être faciles le relations après ça 😕
bon courage
hadinna
bonjour tout le monde , voila je reprend le méssage de mon epouse
donc voila notre histoire , la personne et son fils qui était descendu avec nous au maroc , on fait un caca nerveux pour partir plus tot , ( super les vacances) et nous avions pris un billet a/r commun , pour savoir si ca poserais probleme pour nous lors de l'embarquement j'ai appeler la compagnie , pour me renseigner et il m'on mis en relation avec la personne responsable et celle ci ma affirmé qu'on meposerais des soucis pour embarqué s'il manqué 2 personnes, il aurais fallu prendre des billet séparément, je ne leur ai pas demander de ma rebourser mais juste si je pouvais passer a 3 a la place de 5 dans la voiture , donc soit je trouve une personne et son enfant pour faire la traverser soit je doit racheter des nouveaux billet , alors si un jour vous devais venir avec des amis penser a prendre des billet séparés
Bizarre comme attitude! Comme l'a été dit précédemment, trouver une dame et son enfant pour faire la traversée retour en votre compagnie ne sera pas difficile, en plus si vous leur offrez gracieusement le voyage.
Passez une annonce sur le forum avec les dates de retour, on ne sait jamais.
j'avais bien compris
mais il y a quand même un truc dans les réponses de l'agence, c'est que on peut changer d'avis et rester 3 mois au maroc sans formalités suplementaires
mais bon je suppose qu'ils ont les bonnes infos
c'est sympa quand on est remercié comme ça, j'espère que ce n'était pas "une amie", bonjour l'ambiance
dans ce cas l'idée la plus simple me parait effectivement comme le dit larab, c'est de proposer le passage, soit gratuit soit bcp minoré et de passer une annonce sur les forums
pour les billets séparés, c'est vrai que c'est l'idéal il m'est arrivé de faire du covoiturage, j'ai toujours demandé aux personnes de prendre leur billet et leur bagage pour le bateau, ne voulant pas être responsable au cas ou il y aurait des choses pas nettes, on ne sait jamais
j'espère de tout mon coeur que vous trouviez une solution autre que de racheter des billets
boussa hadinna
c'est sympa quand on est remercié comme ça, j'espère que ce n'était pas "une amie", bonjour l'ambiance
dans ce cas l'idée la plus simple me parait effectivement comme le dit larab, c'est de proposer le passage, soit gratuit soit bcp minoré et de passer une annonce sur les forums
pour les billets séparés, c'est vrai que c'est l'idéal il m'est arrivé de faire du covoiturage, j'ai toujours demandé aux personnes de prendre leur billet et leur bagage pour le bateau, ne voulant pas être responsable au cas ou il y aurait des choses pas nettes, on ne sait jamais
j'espère de tout mon coeur que vous trouviez une solution autre que de racheter des billets
boussa hadinna
Bonjour
D'abord bon courage, je voyage plus avec d'autres personne hors de ma petite famille (sauf la belle mère ) pour garder les enfants 😉
je ne crois pas que pendant les deux mois de Juillet et aout les flics et les douaniers vont compter les personnes voitures par voitures ils ont d'autres chats à fouetter (au pire tu glisse un billet de 10dh= 1 euro).
je ne crois pas que pendant les deux mois de Juillet et aout les flics et les douaniers vont compter les personnes voitures par voitures ils ont d'autres chats à fouetter (au pire tu glisse un billet de 10dh= 1 euro).
Nemo
moi je comprends bien ils sont 3 et sa collègue et son fils sont 2 eux elle les a invités. et le fils de la collègue avec donc sa mère veulent partir avant , pour moi c'est clair. malheureusement je n'ai pas de solution pour eux-autres, avec une voiture, oui, tu es obligé de revenir avec ou une remorque attachée à la voiture, sinon il faut un justificatif, mais les personnes ???
bien à vous et bonne chance à eux
moi je comprends bien ils sont 3 et sa collègue et son fils sont 2 eux elle les a invités. et le fils de la collègue avec donc sa mère veulent partir avant , pour moi c'est clair. malheureusement je n'ai pas de solution pour eux-autres, avec une voiture, oui, tu es obligé de revenir avec ou une remorque attachée à la voiture, sinon il faut un justificatif, mais les personnes ???
bien à vous et bonne chance à eux
Si haut que l'on soit assis , on est toujours assis que sur son cul.
Les hommes c'est comme les livres, plus ils sont haut et moins ils servent.
Nous n'héritons pas de la terre de nos ancêtres, nous l'empruntons à nos enfants,
"(au pire tu glisse un billet de 10dh= 1 euro). "
Le billet de 10 dhs a été retiré de la circulation il y a bien belle mère lurette. Et si tu pouvais nous épargner tes conseils à la con de citoyen sous-développé, on t'en saurais bien gré.
Le billet de 10 dhs a été retiré de la circulation il y a bien belle mère lurette. Et si tu pouvais nous épargner tes conseils à la con de citoyen sous-développé, on t'en saurais bien gré.
Désolé j'ai quitté le Maroc depuis x temps, je ne peux pas savoir que les billets de 10dh sont plus en circulation, et c'est pas la peine d'être vulgaire (mes conseils à la con) ont ouvert à beaucoup de monde des portes malheureusement, tu l'accepte ou non le Maroc est parmi les pays les plus corrompus dans le monde. donc la fierté a deux franc tu la mets dans la petite pochette.
je suis marocain et ça me fait pas plaisir de dire mais c'est la vérité.
mais pour répondre à la personne qui s'inquiètent pour le retour , je crois pas qu'il vont te poser des problèmes surtout en juillet et aout , il y'a beaucoup de monde . a+
je suis marocain et ça me fait pas plaisir de dire mais c'est la vérité.
mais pour répondre à la personne qui s'inquiètent pour le retour , je crois pas qu'il vont te poser des problèmes surtout en juillet et aout , il y'a beaucoup de monde . a+
"tu l'accepte ou non le Maroc est parmi les pays les plus corrompus dans le monde."
Que tu l'acceptes ou non, si le Maroc occupe cette bien triste place c'est la faute, entre autres, aux personnes comme toi. Si la vermine est corrompue, c'est parce que le peuple alimente la pourriture. Donc, je réitère ce que j'ai dit, et n'y vois aucune vulgarité, tes conseils à la con, tu les gardes pour toi (et pour les portes, faut frapper, pousser, persévérer jusqu'à ce qu'elles cèdent)
Que tu l'acceptes ou non, si le Maroc occupe cette bien triste place c'est la faute, entre autres, aux personnes comme toi. Si la vermine est corrompue, c'est parce que le peuple alimente la pourriture. Donc, je réitère ce que j'ai dit, et n'y vois aucune vulgarité, tes conseils à la con, tu les gardes pour toi (et pour les portes, faut frapper, pousser, persévérer jusqu'à ce qu'elles cèdent)
Désolé mais quand tu as des enfants en bas ages et que le flic veut pas te laisser partir avec tes papiers et en plus il fait une chaleur d'enfer , tu comprendra.
j'assume mes conseils à la con .
a+
Aux grands maux les grands remèdes. Si le flic ne te laisse pas partir c'est qu'il te reproche quelque chose, si ce n'est pas le cas et que tu es dans ton droit total, tu piques un scandale, tu vas voir son supérieur mais tu ne tombes pas dans la bassesse de la corruption.
J'ai vécu au Maroc 23 ans et je n'ai jamais eu à soudoyer quiconque. Si je ne suis pas en mon droit, je l'assume, ce n'est pas toujours facile mais c'est une question de principes.
Tu sais bien que nombre de MRE, sont "princiers" et distribuent les oboles au petit personnel, quand ils viennent visiter le pays de leurs ancètres comme un zoo.
Au port de Tanger, ce n'est que magouilles , palabres et échanges de billets devant tous les chargements hétéroclites et surtout volumineux..... et ensuite les touristes sont pressurés et inquiétés par ce que quelques uns ont alimenté la machine de la corruption.
Au port de Tanger, ce n'est que magouilles , palabres et échanges de billets devant tous les chargements hétéroclites et surtout volumineux..... et ensuite les touristes sont pressurés et inquiétés par ce que quelques uns ont alimenté la machine de la corruption.
Il est clair que quand tu vois 5 étages de ferrailles sur la fourgonnette en plus de la remorque pleine à craquer et que le mec dit au douanier que ce sont des cadeaux destinés à la famille et aux amis, c'est prendre nos chers fonctionnaires pour des imbéciles (pléonasme parfois)
Au lieu de dédouaner tout ce bazar et de payer une taxe (tout à fait légitime puisque toute cette marchandise se trouvera le lendemain chez un ferrailleur ou aux puces) on préfère soudoyer le douanier ripoux ou crier au complot et à l'oppression des MRE.
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I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?