Merci d'avance pour vos lumières.
Tour du Mont Blanc
by Sapapaya
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous.
Voila, avec un ami, nous avons décidé de faire le TMB en partie, en 6-7 jours.
J'aimerai me faire conseiller une agence qui s'occuperait d'organiser la reservation des logements et transfert entre etapes si necessaire.
Nous voudrions faire le Tour avec nos sac au dos pour le sejour en entier. Donc pas de transport de bagage par l'organisateur.
Du fait du portage des sacs, existe-t-il une variente du tour où on reste vers des refuges qui sont moins accesible par la route comme c'est souvent prévu lors des tours organisés classique. Mais peut etre que je me fais une mauvaise idée et que c'est inévitable de devoir descendre vers des gites d'etapes plutot que des refuges. Je compte partir du 09 au 15 septembre, je sais que c'est un peu tard dans l'année, mais ce sont mes disponibilités. Nous sommes des marcheurs de bon niveau, pour ma part je fais du jogging et trail à raison de 4 h d'entrainement +/- par semaine.
Merci d'avance pour vos lumières.
Merci d'avance pour vos lumières.
Bonjour,
mi septembre, vous pouvez avoir une météo moins favorable, mais vous éviterez la foule de la période mi-juillet/mi-aout. Comme vous n'êtes que 2 et que vous n'envisagez pas le transfert de vos affaires, à votre place j'oublierai l'agence. Vous pouvez très bien gérer vous même. Prenez le topo "tour du Mont Blanc", faites votre itinéraire et profitez en bien!
Vérifiez juste que les refuges sont encore ouverts à cette époque. Ensuite vous pouvez facilement faire vos résa vous-même (voire ne pas en faire vu que vous êtes 2, à cette période ça doit passer, éventuellement posez la question en vérifiant les ouvertures. Ca vous permet éventuellement d'adapter sur place selon si vous éprouvez le besoin de raccourcir ou rallonger certaines étapes.) Il y a pas mal de possibilités de refuge hors vallées, donc pas de souci.
Solcha.
mi septembre, vous pouvez avoir une météo moins favorable, mais vous éviterez la foule de la période mi-juillet/mi-aout. Comme vous n'êtes que 2 et que vous n'envisagez pas le transfert de vos affaires, à votre place j'oublierai l'agence. Vous pouvez très bien gérer vous même. Prenez le topo "tour du Mont Blanc", faites votre itinéraire et profitez en bien!
Vérifiez juste que les refuges sont encore ouverts à cette époque. Ensuite vous pouvez facilement faire vos résa vous-même (voire ne pas en faire vu que vous êtes 2, à cette période ça doit passer, éventuellement posez la question en vérifiant les ouvertures. Ca vous permet éventuellement d'adapter sur place selon si vous éprouvez le besoin de raccourcir ou rallonger certaines étapes.) Il y a pas mal de possibilités de refuge hors vallées, donc pas de souci.
Solcha.
Merci Solcha,
Quand tu dis "topo" tour du mont blanc, s'agit-il d'un ouvrage qui rassemble en détail le tour avec carte et données de contact pour les refuges ? Tu connais une reference pour se fournir cela.
Ou bien ce que tu appelles "topo" est une sujet du forum sur ce site ou autre.
Merci
Merci
Je parle du topo-guide de la fédé de randonnée (http://www.ffrandonnee.fr/boutique/topo-guide.aspx?ref=028)
C'est un petit livret qui rassemble la carto au 1/50 000 et le descriptif des différentes étapes, y compris les variantes + infos hébergement. Les sentiers sont bien balisés donc il suffit largement.
et pour les hébergements: http://www.cdrp74.fr/gr/heberg-tmb.html
avec une petite recherche sur internet, vous trouverez pleins de retours de randonneurs pour avoir des idées d'étapes sympa.
En tout cas c'est un super projet!
Solcha.
et pour les hébergements: http://www.cdrp74.fr/gr/heberg-tmb.html
avec une petite recherche sur internet, vous trouverez pleins de retours de randonneurs pour avoir des idées d'étapes sympa.
En tout cas c'est un super projet!
Solcha.
super, je me rejouis deja d'y etre....
encore merci
encore merci
Bonsoir,
Tout à fait d'accord avec Solcha, le topo guide de la FFRP que vous pouvez commander via Internet, suffit largement pour faire ce tour. Vous avez les temps de marche et dénivelés de façon précise et détaillée .Nous avons fait le tour du Mont Blanc en 2006 et avons retenu les hébergements d'après les indications de ce topo guide.Ce tour est varié, la partie italienne superbe car les glaciers sont proches et pas franchement difficile avec un peu d'entraînement et vous semblez en avoir bien suffisamment.Bonne rando.Cordialement.
Petite photo pour vous mettre en appétit, c'est le col de la Seigne (frontière franco-italienne)
hello !
je l'ai fait 2 fois, une 1ere très classique et une autre avec des variantes corsées.
6 7 jours me semblent assez juste pour le tour complet surtout à cette époque
pas mal de randonneurs traversent le coté suisse en car et c'est vraiment dommage
quel parcours envisages tu?
des refuges, il y en a partout
le coté italien avec les 13 glaciers qui de déroulent l'un après l'autre c'est grandiose
le fenêtre d'Arpette c'est à ne pas manquer
le balcon face au massif du Mont Blanc coté français est incontournable : du col des Montets à Plan praz on déroule la banane du massif et on ne finit pas d etre ébloui
Si t as pas compris j adore et on peut en causer ....
KENAVO PATRICK
Bonjour Patrick44, en fait vous m'avez répondu alors que je répondais moi même à Sapapaya, donc il faut rediriger votre message.
Celà dit, celà me permet de vous dire que j'ai beaucoup aimé ce tour, fait fin juin( en 10 jours) donc encore un peu enneigé et nous avons du mettre les crampons dans la montée du col du Bonhomme(enfin parce que nous ne sommes plus tout jeunes.....)Du fait de l'enneigement, nous n'avons pu faire certaines variantes.
J'ai vraiment beaucoup aimé le côté italien, par contre, nous n'avons rien vu du grand col Ferret dans la purée de pois et c'est sans doute dommage car on voit paraît il jusqu'au Cervin.Le lac blanc m'a plu énormément mais c'était un dimanche, on se serait cru aux heures de pointe dans le métro, les gens avec leur glacières, le melon et le petit rosé, on s'est vite sauvé.
Cette année Tour des Cerces, avez vous fait ce parcours?
Bonne journée, cordialement.A
Salut,
Je vais commander le topo et voir un peu avec mon comparse quelles sont nos envies.
Je vous demanderais surement vos appreciations quand mon itineraire sera fixé.
A bientot.
A bientot.
Bonjour à tous,
Nous avons décidé de faire le TMB en baroud à deux donc.
Mais vu nos disponiblités on pensais peut etre faire le demi tour sud ou le demi tour nord. Ou encore le tour complet mais en sautant une partie en bus ( certainement de Courmayeur a Champex).
Dans le cas d'un demi tour, il y a-t)il une préférence entre les deux. Vous allez me dire que le tour complet est bien mieux, mais bon. S'il fallait faire un choix, plutot Les Houches-Champieux Courmayeur ou bien Courmayeur-Champex-Les houches ???
Merci de me donner vos avis.
Bonjour,
avez-vous pensé à l'option Les Houches - Courmayeur - Argentières (et rattraper votre point de départ en train dans la vallée de Chamonix)? L'option col du bonhomme - tête des fours plutôt que Champieux est vraiment top!
Solcha.
avez-vous pensé à l'option Les Houches - Courmayeur - Argentières (et rattraper votre point de départ en train dans la vallée de Chamonix)? L'option col du bonhomme - tête des fours plutôt que Champieux est vraiment top!
Solcha.
On avait pensé faire : Les Houches-Chalet du Truc-Refuge col du Bonhomme-(Col des Fours)-Refuge Elisabetta-Courmayeur , puis retour par le tunel. Avec sac a dos de 10-12 kg et tente.
Cest vrai que le tour nous plairait mieux, mais on devrait prendre 3 bus je crois, sauf si je me suis mal renseigner, pour relier Courmayeur à Champex. Ca nous permet de boucler le tour en 8 jours. Maintenant ce trajet en bus est p-e une erreur ???
C'est pour ca qu'on c'est dit autant rester en vadrouille dans la montagne et ne faire q'un demi tour, mais fatallement plus court en jours de marche.
J'avais aussi une autre question. Lorsqu'on dors sous tente a coté d'un refuge, a-t-on acces à la salle commune et au commodité ( moyennant finance j'imagine ), peut-on passer la soirée dans le refuge et ne pas y dormir. Faut-il prevenir aussi les refuges si on dors sous tente, pour les repas j'imagine que oui, enfin sait pas trop. Mais je vais surement demander par mail directement a chaque refuge...
Merci
J'avais aussi une autre question. Lorsqu'on dors sous tente a coté d'un refuge, a-t-on acces à la salle commune et au commodité ( moyennant finance j'imagine ), peut-on passer la soirée dans le refuge et ne pas y dormir. Faut-il prevenir aussi les refuges si on dors sous tente, pour les repas j'imagine que oui, enfin sait pas trop. Mais je vais surement demander par mail directement a chaque refuge...
Merci
Lorsqu'on dors sous tente a coté d'un refuge, a-t-on acces à la salle commune et au commodité ( moyennant finance j'imagine ), peut-on passer la soirée dans le refuge et ne pas y dormir. Faut-il prevenir aussi les refuges si on dors sous tente, pour les repas j'imagine que oui, enfin sait pas trop. Mais je vais surement demander par mail directement a chaque refuge...
Salut Si tu dors sous tente à côté du refuge, oui tu peux y manger le soir. C'est ce que j'ai toujours fait. Mais il vaut mieux prévenir par précaution et respect vis à vis des gérants. Les prévenir la veille suffit en général. Et bien sûr tu as accès à la salle commune. Pour les "commodités", toilettes, oui; douches, ça dépend : il te faudra peut-être payer un petit quelques chose.
Il est également de bon ton de prévenir dès que tu arrives. D'une part pour confirmer que tu vas manger le soir, et d'autre part pour demander où tu peux planter ta tente.
(au passage, salut à Patrick44 😉 )
Salut Si tu dors sous tente à côté du refuge, oui tu peux y manger le soir. C'est ce que j'ai toujours fait. Mais il vaut mieux prévenir par précaution et respect vis à vis des gérants. Les prévenir la veille suffit en général. Et bien sûr tu as accès à la salle commune. Pour les "commodités", toilettes, oui; douches, ça dépend : il te faudra peut-être payer un petit quelques chose.
Il est également de bon ton de prévenir dès que tu arrives. D'une part pour confirmer que tu vas manger le soir, et d'autre part pour demander où tu peux planter ta tente.
(au passage, salut à Patrick44 😉 )
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Merci, je pense que c'est ce qu'on fera. Reste a voir si on fait le tour complet avec une partie en bus, ou faire juste 1/2 tour sur ou nord.
Maintenant je pensais aussi, ca vaut ce que ca vaut, vous que nous avons 8 jours max. C'est de commencer le tour aux Houches, puis col du bonhomme, courmayeur, champex, argentiere. Puis bus d'argentiere aux Houches...
Salut Fred !!
Ma réponse : Il existe une navette de bus pas chère qui amène de la gare du Fayet à la sortie des Contamines ce qui met le refuge de Nant Borrant à moins d'une heure et donc la suite à planifier. Moi je trouverais génial de partir de là, puis Bonhomme, Courmayeur et les cretes vers Bertone ( super bivouac à 100m du refuge face au Mont Blanc ) col Ferret et bus à La Fouly pour rejoindre Champex. De là, le top du top, la Fenêtre d'Arpette pour revenir vers la France et les transports : à finaliser.
Pour ce qui est des bus entre Courmayeur et Champex, ne pas oublier qu'entre les 2 il y a la frontière élevée du col Ferret qui ne se franchit qu' à pieds et qu'il serait vraiment dommage de passer par le Val Veny plutôt que par les cretes : on découvre les 13 glaciers du massif au fur et à mesure de l'avancée.
Sur 8 jours ça doit cadrer mais si en rentrant en France tu peux garder une journée de libre, fais le balcon entre le col des Montets, le lac Blanc, Plan Praz, le Brévent ( quitte à descendre en téléphérique ) ce balcon, si le temps est clair, c'est du pur bonheur.
KENAVO Patrick
Je crois que cela résume très bien!
Même en 7 jours, il y a de quoi faire un super tour!
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So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
