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salut,
j'aimerai faire un trekk de Djanet à Ghat au mois de novembre. Est-il possible de traversée la frontière à cette hauteur ou non? Avez-vous un tuyau pour un guide du côté Lybie?
merci pour votre réponse🤪
Frontière Algérie - Libye à pied
by Ledésert
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
j'aimerai faire un trekk de Djanet à Ghat au mois de novembre. Est-il possible de traversée la frontière à cette hauteur ou non?
Bonjour il n'y a pas de passage officiel, càd avec procédures administratives, pour passer de Djanet à Ghat, et cela depuis de nombreuses années je pense que vous êtes au courant des contraintes administratives pour entrer en Libye, elles sont lourdes et couteuses 😛 et je vous déconseille d'essayer un passage "malin" surtout pas les temps qui courent ..... de Djanet, pas d'autre solution que de remonter sur El Borma, pour entrer en Tunisie, puis la Libye au bout de la ligne droite ....😇 pas jouable à pied, dommage pour vous
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Dom
Bonjour il n'y a pas de passage officiel, càd avec procédures administratives, pour passer de Djanet à Ghat, et cela depuis de nombreuses années je pense que vous êtes au courant des contraintes administratives pour entrer en Libye, elles sont lourdes et couteuses 😛 et je vous déconseille d'essayer un passage "malin" surtout pas les temps qui courent ..... de Djanet, pas d'autre solution que de remonter sur El Borma, pour entrer en Tunisie, puis la Libye au bout de la ligne droite ....😇 pas jouable à pied, dommage pour vous
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Dom
🙂Bonsoir,
merci pour vos renseignements. Non je ne suis pas au courant des contraintes administratives? Pourquoi dites-vous qu'elles sont lourdes? Je commence seulement les démarches depuis aujourd'hui donc encore peu au courant.
Tous vos renseignements me sont utiles.
🤪Bonne soirée
Non je ne suis pas au courant des contraintes administratives?
pour entrer en Libye, ce n'est pas aller en Tunisie 😛 il faut savoir que le visa n'est délivré QUE dans le pays d'origine, ou de résidence
il va falloir vous munir d'une lettre d'invitation d'un Libyen résident sur place en Libye (agence de voyage Libyenne, fait l'affaire) pour faire votre demande de visa pour demander votre visa, sans un Libyen sur votre pays d'origine, la délivrance risque d'être aléatoire, donc il va vous falloir rétribuer une personne Libyenne, qui se chargera de vous obtenir votre visa 😇 puis à la frontière Tuniso-Libyenne (seul poste frontalier actuellement est Ras Jedid, sur la côte), il vous faudra attendre qu'un réceptif vous prenne en charge (on le contacte par mobile), car même avec le visa, vous n'êtes pas autorisé à entrer en Libye, il vous faut un correspondant, qui se portera garant, de vos lieux de séjour; hotel, ou chez de vos amis, auprès des autorités locales 😇 ce garant (ou 1 de ses amis, ou collaborateur) vous accompagnera où vous déciderez d'aller, il vous faudra le rétribuer à la journée, le nourrir, et lui assurer le coucher le soir ....
pas besoin de vous dire que tout cela a DES COÛTS, et en €uros, ou en U$ 😛😎😛 au choix je viens de passer en transit il y a 10 jours, en direction de l'Égypte
je vous conseillerais de regarder d'autres pays actuellement 😛 si vous restez sur votre idée, Djanet - Ghat 😇 bien que connaissant les 2 lieux, je vous comprends 😉 (je fus résident aussi bien en Algérie et Libye) mais je serais circonspect maintenant
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Dom
pour entrer en Libye, ce n'est pas aller en Tunisie 😛 il faut savoir que le visa n'est délivré QUE dans le pays d'origine, ou de résidence
il va falloir vous munir d'une lettre d'invitation d'un Libyen résident sur place en Libye (agence de voyage Libyenne, fait l'affaire) pour faire votre demande de visa pour demander votre visa, sans un Libyen sur votre pays d'origine, la délivrance risque d'être aléatoire, donc il va vous falloir rétribuer une personne Libyenne, qui se chargera de vous obtenir votre visa 😇 puis à la frontière Tuniso-Libyenne (seul poste frontalier actuellement est Ras Jedid, sur la côte), il vous faudra attendre qu'un réceptif vous prenne en charge (on le contacte par mobile), car même avec le visa, vous n'êtes pas autorisé à entrer en Libye, il vous faut un correspondant, qui se portera garant, de vos lieux de séjour; hotel, ou chez de vos amis, auprès des autorités locales 😇 ce garant (ou 1 de ses amis, ou collaborateur) vous accompagnera où vous déciderez d'aller, il vous faudra le rétribuer à la journée, le nourrir, et lui assurer le coucher le soir ....
pas besoin de vous dire que tout cela a DES COÛTS, et en €uros, ou en U$ 😛😎😛 au choix je viens de passer en transit il y a 10 jours, en direction de l'Égypte
je vous conseillerais de regarder d'autres pays actuellement 😛 si vous restez sur votre idée, Djanet - Ghat 😇 bien que connaissant les 2 lieux, je vous comprends 😉 (je fus résident aussi bien en Algérie et Libye) mais je serais circonspect maintenant
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Dom
Bonjour
Je confirme ces informations, et en plus tu seras escorté par un policier durant tout ton séjour ! Restes plut^^ot en Algérie sachant que pour le Tassili N'Ajjer ou le Hoh*ggar il te faut également un guide par mesure de sécurité (il y a des personnes qui sont mortes épuisées et perdues... + manque d'eau) et aussi par rapport au patrimoine de cesr égions !
Lili
Je confirme ces informations, et en plus tu seras escorté par un policier durant tout ton séjour ! Restes plut^^ot en Algérie sachant que pour le Tassili N'Ajjer ou le Hoh*ggar il te faut également un guide par mesure de sécurité (il y a des personnes qui sont mortes épuisées et perdues... + manque d'eau) et aussi par rapport au patrimoine de cesr égions !
Lili
en plus tu seras escorté par un policier durant tout ton séjour !
oui, c'est vrai ... je l'avais oublié celui-là 😇 obligatoire pour aller dans le Sud ....😛 et comme pour "l'accompagnateur", il faudra pour "l'Ange Gardien" le rétribuer à la journée + nourriture + logement 🏴☠️🤪🏴☠️
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Dom
oui, c'est vrai ... je l'avais oublié celui-là 😇 obligatoire pour aller dans le Sud ....😛 et comme pour "l'accompagnateur", il faudra pour "l'Ange Gardien" le rétribuer à la journée + nourriture + logement 🏴☠️🤪🏴☠️
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Dom
😐 Pas si simple!!
Mais peu importe, cela fait partie d'un grand projet et je ne me vois pas abandonner cette aventure! A présent, j'attends la réponse d'un guide Lybien qui m'a été recommandé. Mon but étant de traversée de la frontière Algérie, Lybie et ceci jusqu'à la frontière Egyptienne. Je ne désespère pas. Il y a toujours des solutions. Maintenant, si c'est impossible de traversée la frontière, je partirai de Tamanrasset jusqu'à Djanet à pied et prendrai un vol pour me rendre à Gath afin de poursuivre la traversée. J'ai déjà trouvé un guide qui prépare côté Algérien. 😉 Encore un grand merci pour tes informations.
Bonjour Tassili,
Merci pour tes informations, Effectivement un guide est prévu. Pour le reste, je ne vais pas abandonner la suite de ce grand projet qui a pris forme en 2000. 🙂
Mais peu importe, cela fait partie d'un grand projet et je ne me vois pas abandonner cette aventure!
tu as raison, il faut aller au bout de ses rêves 😉 mais au moins, tu as le "commencement" de l'idée où vont se trouver les obstacles 😛 un conseil d'ami, reste dans la légalité, n'essaye pas trop les "coups tordus" (e.i. passage de frontières en douce) 🤪 n'oublie JAMAIS que dans ces pays, 50% de la population travaille dans la police ou la sécurité, et que l'autre moitié travaille pour les premiers 😇 ça rigole de moins en moins, et les cachots ne sont pas des lieux de villégiatures idylliques 🏴☠️
bonne chance
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Dom
tu as raison, il faut aller au bout de ses rêves 😉 mais au moins, tu as le "commencement" de l'idée où vont se trouver les obstacles 😛 un conseil d'ami, reste dans la légalité, n'essaye pas trop les "coups tordus" (e.i. passage de frontières en douce) 🤪 n'oublie JAMAIS que dans ces pays, 50% de la population travaille dans la police ou la sécurité, et que l'autre moitié travaille pour les premiers 😇 ça rigole de moins en moins, et les cachots ne sont pas des lieux de villégiatures idylliques 🏴☠️
bonne chance
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Dom
Bonjour,
Je voudrais apporter deux correctifs aux informations que vous donnez:
1- Le passage de frontière à El Borma n'est pas possible pour absence de poste frontière: Pas de police et pas de douanes. De Plus, El Borma coté Tunisien est en zone militaire, et il faut une autorisation préalable pour y accéder. Quand j'y vais, les militaires Tunisiens ne cessent de me rappeler de bien faire attention à ne pas se retrouver en territoire Algérien. El Borma, on y accède par une piste, qui devient bitumée sur quelques kilomètres à partir de l'aéroport avant de disparaitre dans les dunes.
2- Le poste frontière de Dhibet permet le passage en Lybie. Il y a donc deux postes frontières entre la Tunisie et la Lybie.
Salutations.
OUPSSssss, merci du correctif
mélangé El Oued, et El Borma
pas malin de ma part, car je grenouillais pas mal dans ces coins là .... camps gaziers,
et c'est vrai qu'il ne vaut mieux pas se louper dans les pistes, car les militaires eux vous loupent pas 🤪
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Dom
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Dom
De rien mon cher,
Vu votre CV, je pensais bien qu'il y avait une confision quelque part.
A+😉
Vu votre CV
A+😉
que je viens d'actualiser, puisque nous sommes en Égypte actuellement Khamdoulillah 😉
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Dom
que je viens d'actualiser, puisque nous sommes en Égypte actuellement Khamdoulillah 😉
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Dom
ah bon, ce st si galere actuellement de la tunisie a la lybie?
il me semblait pourtant qu une fois domayeux tu disais sur ce forum qu en venant de tunisie on pouvait entrer et circuler librement en lybie, ce qui n est pas le cas quand on arrive d egypte.
je te demande car d ici 1 mois et demi j arrive en tunisie et je voulais aller justement faire un tour en lybie en independant et en faisant mon visa en tunisie.
alors, ca le fait ou pas?
Juste une petite info.... circuler en Libye librement ne fait pas partie du vocabulaire local ni des traditions touristiques ! Obligatoirement un guide et avec un peu de chance, un policier en civil .... dans un groupe ça passe plus ou moins inaperçu et pas trop gênant, par contre pour 1 à 2 personnes.... ce n'est pas très agréable d'avoir un gardien 24h/24h...
Bon voyage !
Bon voyage !
SALUT !!
Pour ton visa Libyen il te faut pas mal d'argent et beaucoup de tracasseries !! Le visa doit étre pris dans le pays d'origine (pour toi France ?) Une lettre d'invitation d'un Libyen ou agence pour obtenir ce visa (ça déjà c'est cher) Ce porte garant (l'agence qui à délivé cette invitation) doit ce trouver à la frontiere et c'est le porte garant qui fait tout les papiers échange de plaque Française du véhicule contre plaque Libyenne Accompagnateur obligatoire et payant (50€/jour) plus un 2ieme en arme pour le désert !! si pas de place pour tout ce monde dans ton auto, c'est pas grave, il sufit d'ouvrir le porte feuille = Un véhicule+1 accompagnateur+ 1 policier ou militaire en arme !! ça fait plus que 100€/jour Heureusement que le carburant n'est pas cher !! Surtout pas d'alcool dans le véhicule Passage frontiere avec tout les papiers et accompagnateur déjà arrivé, peu prendre la journée, à 2jours, suivant l'humeur de la douane ou d'un policier Libyen !! Bon courage et fait des économies pour te payer cette balade Cordialement
PAPY
Pour ton visa Libyen il te faut pas mal d'argent et beaucoup de tracasseries !! Le visa doit étre pris dans le pays d'origine (pour toi France ?) Une lettre d'invitation d'un Libyen ou agence pour obtenir ce visa (ça déjà c'est cher) Ce porte garant (l'agence qui à délivé cette invitation) doit ce trouver à la frontiere et c'est le porte garant qui fait tout les papiers échange de plaque Française du véhicule contre plaque Libyenne Accompagnateur obligatoire et payant (50€/jour) plus un 2ieme en arme pour le désert !! si pas de place pour tout ce monde dans ton auto, c'est pas grave, il sufit d'ouvrir le porte feuille = Un véhicule+1 accompagnateur+ 1 policier ou militaire en arme !! ça fait plus que 100€/jour Heureusement que le carburant n'est pas cher !! Surtout pas d'alcool dans le véhicule Passage frontiere avec tout les papiers et accompagnateur déjà arrivé, peu prendre la journée, à 2jours, suivant l'humeur de la douane ou d'un policier Libyen !! Bon courage et fait des économies pour te payer cette balade Cordialement
PAPY
merci a tous deux mais si ca marche comme ca en libye ben ils se passeront de moi.
en fait il m avait semble lire une fois qu en arrivant de tunisie on pouvait y aller independemment mais si ce st pas le cas c est pas grave.
je voulais passer aussi en algerie mais ca a l air un peu galere pour le visa, invitation etc donc khalas, on n en parle plus...
donc je commencerai par le maroc et descendrai vers le sud de la, j ai trouve un bateau a 35 euros depuis sete, cool...
J'ai rencontré plusieurs fois le patron de l'agence IDINEN TOUR tél 0724 24 60 il y a déja quelques années .
Cette agence est à GHAT. à gauche en façe de la nouvelle mosquée.
Voir OSMANE ABDALLAH FETHI qui parle français l'un de ces fréres à une agence à DJANET.
Avant, avec des droms il était possible de passer en mettant un burnous et avec des chameliers .
Mais depuis quelques mois, les Algériens on fait des soucis et même la piste qui va vers le sud est interdites, alors bon courage et insch Allah.
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I’m a bit embarrassed because I need to travel to Quebec from February 27th to March 13th. I’m a regular visitor to Canada—this will be my 10th trip since 1997, plus a year as a permanent resident (2000–2001) and a cross-country run from Vancouver to Halifax in 2011. So, I’m definitely not a terrorist! But since our last trip in July 2015, they’ve introduced this eTA thing. Seems more like a way to make money than to actually secure Canada, if you ask me, but anyway, that’s not the point. I applied for an eTA for myself, my wife, and our two kids. They all got approved within hours, but not me! I was asked to create a GC key and then an IRCC account, which I did. Normally, you get news within 72 hours, but since Monday, January 15th, nothing! In the "message" section of the account, it says "explanation letter (required)" with a deadline of January 25th, but I can’t find any explanation anywhere—despite searching the Canadian government website and Google. No links, nothing! I’ve emailed them but haven’t heard back yet. I’m thinking of calling the Canadian embassy in Paris tomorrow. Even though I’m not stressing yet, it’d be a bummer if everyone else got to go without me! If anyone’s had this issue before or knows what this explanation letter is about, I’d love to hear more.
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I’m heading to Seoul in September, and to do that I need to get a travel authorization that we apply for through K-ETA....... turns out I can (barely, I admit) fill out the form up to the address of our "stay location," but every address I’ve entered has been rejected by the system. I’ve tried my hotel, the Lotte Hotel (which is well-known in Seoul), the airport—basically, I’ve entered at least 20 addresses, all rejected....
So, to anyone who’s successfully gotten the authorization, could you tell me which address you used to get that "elusive" approval?...
Thanks for your help
So, to anyone who’s successfully gotten the authorization, could you tell me which address you used to get that "elusive" approval?...
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
Can I get a TPD (Temporary Admission Document)?
Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
Worst case, I can add my personal name as a co-owner on the registration, but that would be a real shame!
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
Hi there,
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth