Je vais séjourner à Meknes dans les jours qui viennent et je voulais savoir si une visite à Ifrane était intéressante.
Comme je ne séjournerais que quelques jours la-bas, je m'interrogeais sur l'utilité et la pertinence d'une telle visite.
On m'a conseillé d'y aller pour y voir les sommets enneigés et la neige eternelle.
Avez-vous des infos quant au prix et à la durée du trajet en taxi ?
Merci.
Les sommets ennéigés et la neige éternelle !!! en septembre à Ifrane ??😏😏 🙁
Visite incontournable, c'est toi qui voit, c'est une petite ville charmante et calme, avec des environs propices à la promenade.
Pour les taxis,
c'est soit une voiture "privée", pour laquelle il faut compter 600 à 900 dh par journée, selon négociation.
Soit un taxi collectif, et une place coute environ 35 dh pour 100 km.
Un taxi collectif avec ses innombrables arrets, roule à une moyenne de 40 km/h, mais il faut rajouter les temps d'attente de remplissage, parfois multiples si correspondance, (dans ton cas, au minimum à Fes), qui peuvent varier de quelques minutes à quelques heures.
Une voiture a 600/900dh c'est pas cher ca?? ca me donne le vertige... tu trouveras a moitié de ce prix pour une voiture normale, dacia peut etre a 350dh.
sinon pour les taxis ca depend l'heure quand tu veux le prendre, le matin avant 9h ca se rempli vite fait.. y'a du monde de meknes qui vont travailler a ifrane. juste aprés cet horaire tu peux bien attendre pour remplir le taxi sauf si tu payes les places restantes.
Moi j'aime ifrane pour son calme, et surement il te faudra une voiture pour faire les environs et le lac s'il est tjs plein d'eau :)
Salut,
Pour une fois vous semblez etre enthousiaste pour une destination autre que Marrakech & régions ( ouarzazate, merzouga...)
selon vous a part ces zones y'a rien a faire ni a agadir ni a casa ni a tanger et le logement chez l'habitant n'existe pas au maroc et ts les gens qui proposent leur service et leur gentilesse au etrangers sur le forum sont forcement des arnaqueurs ou des profiteurs ?? voyons un peu d'optimiste le maroc c pas si mauvais que ca, ca arrive qu'on veuille aider quelqu'un sans avoir a en tirer un profit, ou l'heberger meme juste pr le plaisir d'échanger d'idées. et y'a bkp de choses a faire a agadir et autour de cette ville.
Meknes Ifrane en voiture de loc,
350 dh de loc
300 dh d'essence, cout sensiblement identique à un taxi privé bien négocié,
et notre ami qui nous pose la question a peut etre fait le choix de ne pas louer !
Bonjour,
Ifran est une jolie petite ville située dans le moyen Atlas. partir de Meknes pour la visiter est une bonne idée surtt que la distance c'est environ une heure par grand taxi. aussi on peut revenir le meme le jour.pour la question de la niege, c'est pas encore la saison, c'est à partir du mois de novembre.
bon voyage
cordialement
Hicham El Attar
Bonjour, je ne sais pas ou ils ont trouve des tarifs aussi honereux, mais c possible, cependant je peux t'affirmer que tu peux faire le voyage pour meme pas 10 € aller retour, en taxi collectif 6 places ou en car, j'ai souvent ete a el hajeb, village qui se trouve exactement entre meknes et ifrane, il doit y avoir a peine 70km entre ces 2 villes, en bus je paye 3 dh pour faire el hajeb meknes en bus pour 40 km. La ville d'ifrane est a visite et je te confirme que la neige eternelle, tu pourras les voir dans cette ville en septembre, mais en carte postale, et si tu peux, n'hesites pas a passer a el hajeb, petite ville sympas sur le trajet, bon voyage...
je te confirme que la neige eternelle, tu pourras les voir dans cette ville en septembre, mais en carte postale, et si tu peux, n'hesites pas a passer a el hajeb, petite ville sympas sur le trajet, bon voyage...
On ne peut pas voir les neiges eternelles au mois d'aout?
biensur que non la neige est la pendant 3 mois ou un peu plus par an c tout, y'a aucun lieu au maroc ou y'a la neige eternelle meme la plus haut sommet du royaume (toubkal 4165) ne connait pas de neige eternelle,
mais tres peu d'etrangers s'interessent a IFRANE vu que ca ressemble aux petits villages en suisse ou au pays basque ( Biarritz ou bayonne), ifrane c surtout une ville destinée au tourisme locale, on y trouve moins d'hotels que des maisons d'hotes, et les quelques hotels qui sont la ne sont pas vraiment d'une excellente qualité
Une voiture a 600/900dh c'est pas cher ca?? ca me donne le vertige... tu trouveras a moitié de ce prix pour une voiture normale, dacia peut etre a 350dh.
Encore un qui compare les choix et les carottes :)
A 350 dirhams, c'est sans essence, sans chauffeur et sans taxes supplémentaires.
Avec un plein minimum à 300-350 dihrams, puisque les voitures de loc sont louées réservoir vide, ... tu fais le calcul tout de suite.
Ca ne fera qu'un hors sujet de plus, mais comme j'ai été égratigné .....
***** Salut,
Pour une fois vous semblez etre enthousiaste pour une destination autre que Marrakech & régions ( ouarzazate, merzouga...)
selon vous a part ces zones y'a rien a faire ni a agadir ni a casa ni a tanger et le logement chez l'habitant n'existe pas au maroc et ts les gens qui proposent leur service et leur gentilesse au etrangers sur le forum sont forcement des arnaqueurs ou des profiteurs ?? voyons un peu d'optimiste le maroc c pas si mauvais que ca, ca arrive qu'on veuille aider quelqu'un sans avoir a en tirer un profit, ou l'heberger meme juste pr le plaisir d'échanger d'idées. et y'a bkp de choses a faire a agadir et autour de cette ville.****
ce n’est pas de ma faute si 95 % des questions concernent Marrakech, Ouarzazate et Merzouga.
selon moi, et il suffit de lire mes messages :
Je n’accorde aucun intérêt à Agadir, mais un chapitre du forum sur les hôtels club le traite.
Casa est pour moi le vrai Maroc, l’authentique, celui qui se bouge, et je ne me gène pas pour le dire. l’éternelle confrontation entre tradition et modernité, ( 😉😉 M.A. si tu nous lit ! ) qu’il faut avoir vécue pour commencer à comprendre le pays.
Tanger, je ne connais pas, et il est hors de question que j’invente, de même que les lieux ou je n’ai pas mis les pieds depuis quelques années.
Et lorsqu’il y a des questions sur d’autres lieux que je connais, je n’hésite pas à faire part de mes tuyaux. Fes, Rabat, Safi, Essaouira, Tiznit, Sidi Ifni, Goulmine, Tarroudant, etc….. plein de belles choses.
le logement chez l’habitant, c’est une question de définition ! mais si c’est quelque chose d’organisé et de rétribué régulièrement c’est une forme commerciale, dite de « maison d’hôte ». Le vrai hébergement chez l’habitant ne peut, pour moi, que se concevoir dans le cadre de relations privées.
les marocains qui proposent "certains" services, et surtout leur "gentillesse", sont souvent les mêmes qui nous collent dans les souks et harcèlent le touriste, ils sont gênés par la police touristique et essayent de recruter leurs pigeons (nnes) en amont en passant des heures dans les cybers. Il faut absolument mettre en garde les Vfistes contre leurs agissements, qui peuvent compromettre des vacances.
C’est qui ? ces fameux "étudiants" qui aiment faire "visiter leur beau pays", n’importe ou, en toute saison ??? il y en a des dizaines sur les forums, avec le même langage que ceux des souks.
Sans oublier les plans "meetic" dans le chapitre ‘voyage au féminin’, heureusement rapidement modéré.
Toutes ces propositions de logements, de location de voiture pas cher, d’accompagnement, ne sont que de médiocres copies de ce qui se passait sur place avant la création de la police touristique.
Les quelques personnes honnètes et désintéressées sont noyées dans le flot de rabatteurs, dommage !.
""" un peu d'optimiste le maroc c pas si mauvais que ca """
Mais, moi, je suis optimiste, mais c’est en y dénonçant certains travers qu’on le rendra encore moins mauvais. Mais la tournure même de ta phrase, démontre que, toi même, tu n’es pas entièrement convaincu.
Pour conculre je vous remercie pour votre réponse, et aussi pour votre effort dans ce Forum, c't juste une ou des remarques, si non je suis bien convaincu que vous êtes une mine d'information pour les futures visiteurs du maroc.
voila merci encore
Ifrane est superbe ( personnellement j'adore ) mais bon en taxi, tu risque d'avoir un sacrée taux d'adrenaline si tu n'es pas habitué 😉
sinon tu as qqles lacs qui sont sympa, il y a aussi une foret avec des tres vieux cedres, ou niche des singes en libertés.
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.