Nous partons en petit groupe de 4x4 avec des copains au Maroc, pendant un mois
Quel est l'opèrateur qui couvre le plus le pays
et quels sont les prix des clés 3G
on m'a parlé que le prix c'est 18€ pour un mois illimité
merci
Les deux principaux, soit Méditel et Maroc Télécom.
Modem Méditel: 390 dhs avec un mois de connection gratuit.
Maroc Télécom je ne connais pas le prix mais cela doit être du même ordre...
mais je ne me fache pas surtout contre toi 🙂 meme s'il fait tres chaud depuis hier 🤪
la 3G d'inwi existe depuis avril 2007 bien avant meditel et ittissalat, deja au lancement agadir et region etaient couverts alors que le gsm de meditel par exemple son reseau est faible dés que tu t'eloigne du centre ville, alors la 3G...
seul hic de toute les 3g c'est la vitesse de connection qui diminue a partir de midi jusqua tard le soir, pour surfer tranquille faut prendre l'adsl avec au moins 4 mega mais ca engage les gens dans une ligne de fixe aussi... 😕
je ne sais pas s'il est encore en vigueur, Maroc télécom offrait le mois dernière un modem avec deux mois de connexion gratuite pour 290 DH, en suite 200 dh par mois
France Télécom va s'implanter au Maroc prochainement : l'opérateur français s'apprête à s'offrir 40% du capital de Médi Télécom (Méditel), le deuxième opérateur marocain, derrière Maroc Télécom, qui est lui détenu à hauteur de 53% par Vivendi. L'opération, d'un montant de 640 millions d’euros, devrait être finalisée d'ici la fin 2010 si elle est approuvée par l’autorité marocaine de régulation .
source : Usine nouvelle, 22 sept 2010
voir débarquer les grandes multinationales ne va pas arranger le niveau de prix de la téléphonie marocaine, déjà assez élevé.
il suffit de suivre l'historique de Vivendi et France Télécom :
La cour d’appel de Paris a condamné les trois opérateurs mobiles français pour entente illicite . Le conseil de la concurrence avait infligé aux trois opérateurs l’amende globale de 534 millions d’euros, la plus élevée jamais décidée par le Conseil de la concurrence. Au final, France Télécom, avait été condamnée à une amende de 256 millions d’euros, tandis que SFR (Vivendi Universal et Vodafone) devait verser 220 millions. Bouygues Telecom, filiale du groupe Bouygues, avait été sanctionné par une amende de 58 millions d’euros.
j'ai connu l'adsl 256 ko en 2005 a 300 dh par mois, maintenant tu as 4 mega pour le meme prix
les prix des communications ne fait que baisser, la concurence fait du bien, exemple: le transport aerien, pour 100 euros avec easy jet tu fait cdg agadir aller retour avec option assurance et bagage de 20 kg ce qui n'etait pas le cas avec safar tour ou un vol sec il y a 5 ans
pour maroc telecom meme filliale de vivendi, il y a plein de promos, ce matin j'ai recu un sms comme quoi il y a la double recharge jusqua la fin de ce mois, ces promos interviennent 2 fois par mois sans parler des demi tarifs sms mms, des heures a 30 dh pour l'europe etc. depuis le portable
Personnellement, j'ai deux clés 3G, une Ramoc Télémoc avec laquelle je ne capte walou, et une Démitel dont je me sers à cet instant même...Mais, il faut compter environ une heure pour modifier la photo de mon avatar!🏴☠️😠🤪
j'utilise wana et je n'ai pas a me plaindre sauf pour de long telechargement sur youtube par exemple ou pour charger une page entiere de grandes tof et ce l'apres midi ou ca rame, la nuit et le matin ca va on a presque un mega
ben voui, pas de carte de sejour pas d'abonement, pas de carte grise a son nom ...
faut dire que maintenant les gens qui avaient le fixe le coupent, si c'est pour etre reveillé a 3 heures du mat par "allouuuuuuuuu mouhmaaaaaaaaaaaaaad ? " vaut mieux le resilier ce que j'ai fait, tranquille intenet inwi et gsm maroc mocelet*
on recharge quand on veut, promos a gogo, tiens pour 2 mois j'ai payer 300 dh aulieu de 400 avec inwi
* je ne suis pas aussi fort que toi en verlan alors je fait une anagrame 😎
le domaine de transport aérien est tout à fait différent de celui de la téléphonie.
la convention de l'open sky, ratifiée par le maroc est à l'origine de baisse de prix, en écartant le monopole de Royal Air Maroc sur l'espace aérien du Maroc.
Par contre, le monopole de Maroc Télécom est loin d'être allégé au profit d'autres concurrents.
chaque operateur fait ce qu'il veut, meditel aussi fait des promos, a des lignes de fixe avec ses numeros 06 65 meme s'ils pretent a confusion avec ceux du portable, passe autant de spots publicitaires que maroc telecom ou inwi
l'etat n'a plus son mot a dire dans maroc telecom puisque vivendi en detient a peu pres 70 pc
inwi qui appartient a l'ona aussi s'aligne sur les prix des 2 autres operateurs et ne leur fait pas de concurence deloyale
propriétaire et locataire .... pas la même chose !!!!.
<<Voui! A condition d'être résident, sinon t'es puni: pas de ligne fixe chez Ramoc Télémoc.>>
<<ben voui, pas de carte de sejour pas d'abonement......>>
Bonjour Claude
Soyons précis pour les lecteurs des messages
Lis bien les messages des intervenants , il n'est fait nulle part allusion au fait qu'ils soient locataires ou propriétaires , seulement la condition d'être résident
Leur affirmation équivaut à une généralité , ce qui rend cette affirmation erronée s'il n'est rien précisé de + , comme tu le fais
un proprietaire peut prendre une ligne de fixe et un abonement internet et louer son logement a des europeens qui ne sont pas residents ca se fait aussi...
Non , ce n'est pas à ce cas que je faisais allusion
Mais tu as parfaitement raison, voila une autre possibilité qui permet à un résident locataire (non propriétaire donc ) de pouvoir disposer d'une ligne fixe à son domicile
"J'ai le regret de te contredire
Je suis non résident (par choix) , mais j'ai une ligne fixe Maroc Télécom depuis 9 ans à la maison + Menara ADSL"
Bis dixit Raoulx et d'autre part, Macor Télémoc a changé sa politique clientèle suite à de nombreux retours en Europe de ses clients européens avec des ardoises plus ou moins conséquentes laissées au bled...
je l'ai desactivée a cause d'une folle qui me harcelle par mp avec des insultes, malgré qu'elle se fasse bannir suite a ca elle revient, quelle fierté 😐
dommage pour les autres, mais je la reactiverais l'espace de quelques heures 😉
Je te cite un cas concret :
Un de mes voisins , retraité Français , carte de résidant depuis 8 mois seulement, habitant un appartement en location au quartier Wededia , possède une ligne fixe Maroc Télécom et un abonnement Menara depuis févier 2010 (c'est moi qui lui est fait l'installation de son modem Menara adsl )
Les changements de traitement dont tu parles doivent être vachement récents !!
En février, quand il a demandé sa ligne MT, il était donc déjà résident ...
Ça ne nous dit pas si un non résident peut l'obtenir ! locataire ou propriétaire.
Il y a incompréhension , ma réponse précédente concernait une affirmation disant que Maroc Télécom ne délivrait plus de ligne fixe à un locataire (même résidant ) relis bien tous les messages 🙂
Et j'affirme le contraire
Relis bien également ce que j'ai écrit dans mon premier message : je suis non résident , et j'ai ma ligne Maroc Télécom
Là , je sent qu'on va se lancer dans une discution sans fin ....donc je vais vous laisser croire ce que vous préférez
Pour ma part , je sais à quoi m'en tenir sur ce sujet 🙂
je l'ai desactivée a cause d'une folle qui me harcelle par mp avec des insultes, malgré qu'elle se fasse bannir suite a ca elle revient, quelle fierté
Moi, je n'ai eu droit qu'à un message...complètement incohérent auquel je n'ai évidemment pas répondu...
C'est dommage de te priver de ta messagerie privée, car elle reviendra sur le forum vaille que vaille la folle-dingue aux mille pseudo!🤪
voila
de retour du maroc
j'ai donc acheté une cles usb maroc telecom200DH et deux mois illimité
question vitesse ou plutot lenteur
il faut se lever a 6 hoo du mat pour avoir un peu de vitesse , le soir c'est le désastre
par contre la captation dans les grandes villes c'est bon
partout ailleurs c'est nul , vraiment nul
le portable captait normalement et la pluspart du temps
maroc iam si je ne me trompe pas , mais rien en 3G
dans les campements erg chebbi ou a Tafnidilt le portable passe mais rien en 3G
je pensais que maroc telecom c'était le plus representé
pour la prochaine fois je cherche un utre operateur
pour la prochaine fois je cherche un utre operateur
C'est encore pire...!
Auparavant, Méditel captait pas mal mais nouvelle "politique": maintenant on paye selon le débit, donc pour 50dhs/semaine tu as le plus lent débit avec lequel tu ne peux même pas "charger" une photo😠.
Quant à Inwi c'est de la m....
J'ai utilisé pendant plusieurs mois la clé 3G Maroc tele, et je dois dire que mis a part quelques lenteurs
en fin de journée notamment, ça marche bien et connection rapide
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.