Itinéraire 18 jours au Maroc?
by BernardDu
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je m’adresse aux connaisseurs du Maroc. Nous partons du Québec, arrivée Casablanca et retour par Marrakech (via Paris) 18 jours au total, de la fin mai au 10 juin. Nous louerons une voiture pour les déplacements sauf pour les derniers jours à Marrakech. Idéalement nous aimerions voir Fès mais aussi la région de Ouazazarte, Le haut Atlas, Essaouira et un peu de bord de mer. Est-ce trop ambitieux comme programme ? Nous sommes conscients de la route à parcourir mais nous ne voulons pas passer notre temps en voiture. Sinon quel serait l’itinéraire conseillé, les musts? Y a-t-il des contre indications compte tenu que nous serons dans la période du ramadan?
Merci à tous pour vos réponses
Merci!
votre projet n'est pas ambitieux
une jolie maison d'hôtes franco marocaine à quelques km d'Essaouira (à l'abri du vent de l'océan) direction Sidi Kaouki donc au sud d'Essaouira
pour moi un must car la campagne d'Essaouira est si jolie...
http://www.parfums-d-etoiles.com/
Idéal en période de Ramadan.. bien que tous les hôtels soient ouverts en période de Ramadan..
Bon voyage !
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Merci à tous pour vos réponses
wahou
un "souci" est la cohérence du trajet compte tenu de la situation d'Essaouira. (aux antipodes du haut Atlas)
ça peut donner cela :
Casablanca - Fes - Arrachidia - N10 vallée du dades (haut Atlas) - Ouarzazate - toujours N10 la grand route du sud, superbe, Taroudant/Agadir puis remonter sur Essaouira - un bout de côte en remontant - retour sur Marrakech
ne réservez pas (sauf arrivée à Casa si vous y restez et Marrakech) : ainsi vous modulerez votre itinéraire selon la réalité, et vos envies.
attention lorsque vous établirez votre prévision d’itinéraire : les temps de trajet donnés par les calculateurs (michelin, google) sont fantaisistes, pas réalistes. Comptez entre 50 et 60 km/h de moyenne.
wahou
un "souci" est la cohérence du trajet compte tenu de la situation d'Essaouira. (aux antipodes du haut Atlas)
ça peut donner cela :
Casablanca - Fes - Arrachidia - N10 vallée du dades (haut Atlas) - Ouarzazate - toujours N10 la grand route du sud, superbe, Taroudant/Agadir puis remonter sur Essaouira - un bout de côte en remontant - retour sur Marrakech
ne réservez pas (sauf arrivée à Casa si vous y restez et Marrakech) : ainsi vous modulerez votre itinéraire selon la réalité, et vos envies.
attention lorsque vous établirez votre prévision d’itinéraire : les temps de trajet donnés par les calculateurs (michelin, google) sont fantaisistes, pas réalistes. Comptez entre 50 et 60 km/h de moyenne.
Merci! c'est noté
Noté Merci!!
Bonjour Bernard,
18jours pour visiter le Maroc est faisable, j'ai fait plusieurs fois un cercuit qui démarrent de la ville de Fès , prévoir une journée pour visiter la médina , à mon avis il vaut mieux trouver un hôtel à Batha à 200m de la grande porte Babou boujloud et de là descendre vers la vielle ville. Ensuite direction Ifrane et azrou pour admirer les forêts de cèdres les singes les très beaux tapis berbères à Azrou.
Après direction midelt, errachidia direction arfoud et entre ces deux villes un bon accueil et halte dans la palmeraie le long du Zizi une maison d'hôtes s'y trouve le long de la route qui s'appelle la palmeraie.cela vaut la peine d'y être sous le couvert des palmiers et le propriétaire est hyper sympa .j'y étais il y'a 8ans! Mais l'endroit est saisissant par la beauté du site!
Ensuite direction arfoud si vous aimez le dessert une autre nuit est obligatoire ☺ plusieurs maisons d'hôtes vous propose une nuit de bivouac à deux ou trois heures à dos de dromadaire dormir à la belle étoile sous un ciel pur ds un désert rose merzouga où le silence vous parle reste une expérience inoubliable.
Ensuite deux directions vous serons proposées directions la vallée de la rose oubien directement ouarzazate ...dormir à skoura est super parmis les palmiers ds un des ksars .... Après ouarzazate directions Marrakech où je pense qu'il faudrait deux ou trois nuits il y'a tellement de choses à voir et ça en vaut la peine...direction après cette visite Essaouira , deux jours pour l'océan la ville dormir en dehors sur la route côtière à 10kms au jardin des dunes par exemple .une bonne réception et belle halte à savourer ds une forêt de thuya et genévrier et autres lavandes... Et à la fin prendre cette même route côtière vers Casablanca halte pour déguster des huîtres visiter ensuite les citernes portugaise à eljadida.
Voilà un exemple de cercuit qui personnellement m'a tjrs fait plaisir.
Bien à vous
Nadia
l'auberge la palmeraie, dans les gorges du Ziz : est celle - là ? www.danslapalmeraie.com/tarifs.php
ton itinéraire ? : Notre ami du Québec arrive par Casablanca et repars par Marrakech...😉
ton itinéraire ? : Notre ami du Québec arrive par Casablanca et repars par Marrakech...😉
Bonjour Cambrousse, désolée pour l'itinéraire !!! Pour ce qui est de la palmeraie c'est bien là bas. Où j'ai séjourné avec ma fille ...
c'est pas grave, c'était juste pour ne pas oublier la demande.
je ne me suis jamais arrêtée dans la vallée du Ziz, je ne l'ai vu que du bus. Très belle. mais je me dis que j'y ferais bien un petit arrêt un de ces jours😉
je ne me suis jamais arrêtée dans la vallée du Ziz, je ne l'ai vu que du bus. Très belle. mais je me dis que j'y ferais bien un petit arrêt un de ces jours😉
Merci beaucoup Nadia, je vais sûrement retenir vos propositions :)
C'est vrai cela mérite un détour ☺ à chaque fois c'est un émerveillement la montagne magique d'un côté et de l'autre côté de la route leZiz qui serpente le long de la palmeraie sous un ciel bleu azur....
Au plaisir .
Nadia
dans la palmeraie le long du Zizi
Euh... Comment dire... 😏 Et comment on les appelle les habitants du Ziz ?
Euh... Comment dire... 😏 Et comment on les appelle les habitants du Ziz ?
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les zizous
Bonjour
Cela pourrait donner ceci: J 1 et 2 Casa, J3 et 4 route Meknes, Meknes et environs (Moulay Idriss, éventuellement Volubilis), J5 et 6, route Fes, Fes, J7route Azrou, Azrou et environs (forêt singes...), J8 route vers Midelt et balade magnifique dans Gorges de Jafar, J9 route de Midelt à Merzouga par la belmle vallée du Ziz et nuit dans les dunes -ce serait dommage de ne pas le faire sauf si vous avez déjà eu l'occasion du même type de balade- J10 route Tineghir, Todra, J11 Dades jusqu'à la "Tortue" route Skoura, J12 Skoura, J13 Ait Benhaddou, J14, 15 et 16 route Essaouira et essaouira, J17 et 18 Route MRK et MRK.
Eventuellement vous pouvez regrouper les J12 et 13 (palmeraie Skoura le matin, Ait Ben l'après-midi) mais en 2 fois cela reposerait un peu de la route précédente. Vous pouvez évidemment éviter Merzouga mais dommage. Et même si la côte et Essaouira méritent un détour, c'est vrai que c'est excentré par rapport à vos autres objectifs donc ne pas y aller vous permettrait d'en voir plus à l'intérieur ( Sources Oum R'Rbia et Azigza, Imilchil, Goulmina., route du tizi n'test magnifique..). Bref, on a l'embarras du choix. A vous de voir. Bon voyage.
alquesn
Merci Alain,
Très intéressant, je pense qu'on devra y retourner une 2ieme fois :)
C'est ce que font pas mal de français. Pour vous, c'est peut-être plus compliqué
Si vous allez sur la côte, essayez de passer par des endroits très chouettes comme Aglou, le Cap Tafelnay, Imsouane...Et pour un autre voyage, envisagez RABAT, Chefchaouen, la vallée du Draa, M hamid, l'Ourika, Tafraoute, et tellement d'autres sites qu’il faudra....un 3ème voyage...!!!
alquesn
Rebonjour à tous, je vous sollicite encore une fois! Merci à l'avance :))
Après réflexion voici plus bas ce qui se dessine pour notre itinéraire de18 jours, arrivée 26 mai Casablanca et retour 11 juin de Marrakech. Je sais nous sommes gourmands...
Les temps de route estimés sont-ils réalistes si on ne tient pas compte des arrêts photo et autres... - S'il y avait une étape à oublier laquelle serait-elle ? Ou encore une étape non prévue à faireabsolument ? - Le meilleur endroit pour faire une nuit ou deux dans le désert? - Un 4 x 4 est-il indispensable pour cet itinéraire?
- Montréal Casablanca …… ….. 2 nuits - Casablanca Fes 294km 3h07 2 nuits - Fes Azrou 83km 1h37 1 nuit - Azrou Erfoud 335km 5h05 2 nuits - Erfoud Skoura 265km 4h 2 nuits - Skoura Taroudant 333km 4h45 1 nuit - Taroudant Tafraoute 165km 2h52 2 nuits - Tafraoute Imsouane 247km 4h24 1 nuit - Imsouane Essaouira 95km 1h34 2 nuits - Essaouira Marrakech 189km 3h 2 nuits - Marrakech Montréal....
Après réflexion voici plus bas ce qui se dessine pour notre itinéraire de18 jours, arrivée 26 mai Casablanca et retour 11 juin de Marrakech. Je sais nous sommes gourmands...
Les temps de route estimés sont-ils réalistes si on ne tient pas compte des arrêts photo et autres... - S'il y avait une étape à oublier laquelle serait-elle ? Ou encore une étape non prévue à faireabsolument ? - Le meilleur endroit pour faire une nuit ou deux dans le désert? - Un 4 x 4 est-il indispensable pour cet itinéraire?
- Montréal Casablanca …… ….. 2 nuits - Casablanca Fes 294km 3h07 2 nuits - Fes Azrou 83km 1h37 1 nuit - Azrou Erfoud 335km 5h05 2 nuits - Erfoud Skoura 265km 4h 2 nuits - Skoura Taroudant 333km 4h45 1 nuit - Taroudant Tafraoute 165km 2h52 2 nuits - Tafraoute Imsouane 247km 4h24 1 nuit - Imsouane Essaouira 95km 1h34 2 nuits - Essaouira Marrakech 189km 3h 2 nuits - Marrakech Montréal....
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)