Je suis étudiant en médecine et cet été nous partons avec une amie faire un stage hospitalier à l’hôpital Bach Mai de Hanoi. Ce stage devrait durer 15 jours dans lesquels nous aurions sûrement les week end de libre (plus ou moins un ou deux jours). Nous souhaiterions rester au Vietnam pour une durer totale de 36 à 40 jours (de mi-juin a fin de juillet), ce qui nous laisserait une vingtaine de jours complètement libre.
Nous pensions profiter des 15 jours a Hanoi pour visiter le Nord puis descendre dans le sud à la fin de notre stage et prendre le vols retour a Saigon….Qu’en pensez vous ???
Pourriez vous m’indiquer un itinéraire pour les 15 premiers jours puis pour notre descente ??
Merci d’avance.
Pour avoir été au Vietnam en 2003, je peux te dire que le pays est très long (du Nord au Sud). Je te conseille peut-être de faire un week-end à la Baie d'Halong bien sûr (80 kms de hanoi) et un autre week-end à laBaie d'halong terrestre que j'ai adirée. les paysages y sont magnifiques et c'est le Vietnam rural.
Ensuite, je te cite le parcours que j'ai fait et qui était pas mal : à la fin de ton stage, prendre l'avion pour Hué, descendre en voiture à Da Nang (2 ou 3 jours). Ensuite, avion pour Nha Trang, et faire la boucle en voiture par Buon Ma Thuot (frontière Cambodge), puis descente en voiture sur Dalat (en altitude et sympa) puis Saïgon, et faire le Delta du Mékong.
C'est une exemple...
Les itineraires sont multiples et varies, je peux t en sortir des wagons. Apres cela depend comment tu envisages ton voyage. Pour la decouverte de cette sublime region, 2 solutions : Par une agence ou un guide independant Par toi meme. Dans ce cas la, je ne vois qu une solution la moto. Ne cries pas!!! Tu peux louer a Hanoi des motos automatiques 125cc avec sacoches pour tes affaires. Une fois sortis de Hanoi et de sa peripherie, la route est super agreable. Et lorsque tu gagnes les montagnes, c est du pur plaisir. Croies moi il n y a pas besoin d etre un pilote chevronne. Je connais des filles qui sont parties avec nous en viree, elles n avaient jamais conduis de moto. De retour a Hanoi une d entre elle s est carrement achete une 250cc MZ. Le Nord Vietnam a souvent ete pour de nombreuses personnes un revelateur.
Si la moto te branche, alors je te donnerais des itineraires. Attention ca peut changer une vie....
en gros deux solutions s'offrent a nous: se limiter au Nord Vietnam durant 1 mois et demi faire les principaux sites de l'ensemble du vietnam
c'est un choix cornelien😕
Vous pouvez consacrer 3 semaines au Nord, faire une boucle pour aller savourer les majestueuses montagnes du Haut Tonkin, visite de Hanoi, baie d Along, Tam Coc.
Puis 3 semaines pour le Centre et le Sud.
HANOI – MAI CHAU : 150km
Mai Chau, village montagnard blotti dans le creux d une vallee superbe de rizieres. Une fois sortis de Hanoi la route devient tres belle et agreable. Beaux paysages, belvederes magnifiques aux vues plongeantes grandioses, qui dominent des vallées encaissées où des rivières se cherchent paisiblement un chemin. Mai Chau est habite en majorite par l ethnie Thai blanc. Tu dormiras chez eux dans leur maison sur pilotis, cuisine excellente. Tu pourras peut etre assiste a un spectacle de musique traditionnelle.
MAI CHAU – SON LA : 240 km
La plus longue étape. Belle route, beaux paysages notament au col de Pha Din. Nombreuses minorités ethniques rencontrees en chemin.
Deux choix s offrent a toi
q SON LA– DIEN BIEN PHU
Je n ai jamais ete a Dien Bien Phu. Ce que je peux te dire ce que beaucoup ont ete decu par la ville. S arreter a Dien Bien Phu demande une journee de plus sur l ensemble du parcours. A toi de voir
OU
q SON LA– LAI CHAU
La route quoi que un peu difficile est grandiose. Paysages montagneux superbes, nombreux villages traverses ou nous sont lances de joyeux ‘ hello ‘ par des bambins, activite agricole debordante, nombreuses tribus montagnardes. Arrive Lai Chau en fin de journee. Gentil petit village situe dans une vallee encaissee, ammene a disparaitre dans quelques annees a la suite de la construction d un barrage.
LAI CHAU – SAPA
Route magnifique qui serpente le long de la riviere Nam Na, nombreux villages Thai noir avec leurs grandes maisons sur pilotis, un regal. Nombreux cols don’t celui de Tram Ton qui mene a Sapa. Vue spectaculaire. A savoir, Sapa est tres touristique. C est la principale destination du Nord après Along. Les paysages aux alentours sont tout de meme magnifique. A toi de voir sit u veux y rester une journee ou deux soit se ballader a moto ou a pied dans les environs, en independent ou en faisant un trekking 2j/1n avec nuit chez l habitant.
OPTION, si tu veux esquiver Sapa tu peux faire l itineraire suivant :
LAI CHAU – THAN UYEN
Somptueux, totalement hors des sentiers battus. Magnifiques paysages de rizieres en terrasses. Dans dans ce décor d une rare beaute que vivent de nombreuses minorities ethniques.
SAPA ou THAN UYEN – BAC HA
Il faut essayer de programmer cet itineraire pour pouvoir assister au marche de Bac Ha qui se tient le dimanche, etourdissant de couleurs.
BAC HA
Visite du marche, surprenant. L après-midi, ballade a pieds ou a moto dans les environs.
BAC HA – THAC BA
Redescendre de la montagne pour prendre une tres jolie route entre rizieres et riviere. Vie locale, “ hello ‘, sourires …Thac Ba est un coin paradisiaque ou quasi personne ne va. Des centaines d’îles, en forme de bol renversé, hérissent la surface du lac. Les berges sont couvertes d’une végétation dense. La population locale vit de pêche et de culture sur des îlots escarpés.
THAC BA – PARC NATIONAL DE BA BE
Ici, pas de jet ski ou de planche à voile, juste de paisibles et longues balades sur l'eau. Huitième parc national du Vietnam de 23.000 hectares, Ba be abrite plus de 550 espèces de plantes, quelques 300 espèces d'animaux dont 65 mammifères, singes, sangliers et même panthères, et 214 sortes d'oiseaux. Le parc regorge de cascades, de rivières, de lacs et de de grottes encadrés de pics montagneux. Malgré la beauté de l'endroit, cet havre de nature ne connaît relativement pas l'afflux touristique. Nuit chez l habitant de l ethnie Tay au bord du lac.
PARC NATIONAL DE BA BE
Je te conseille de rester une journee pour decouvrir le parc en faisant une superbe ballade en bateau sur le lac.
PARC NATIONAL DE BA BE - HANOI
Retour sur Hanoi par une tres belle route de campagne.
Pour faire ce circuit, il faut au minimum 10 jours. On peut toujours le modifier un peu pour le raccourcir ou le rallonger. Tu peux a Sapa, Bac Ha, Tam Duong, Ba Be, Thac Ba louer les services d un guide pour faire des ballades a pied ou en bateau. Avec ce circuit tu as un tres bel apercu du Nord.
BOUCLE OUEST – EST
Hanoi-Mai Chau ( nuit chez l habitant, a voir le dimanche matin le marché de Moc Chau )
Mai Chau-Son La ( Son La c est moche. A Tuan Giao il y a un petit marché de l ethnie Thaie tres interressant )
Son La -Lai Chau ( difficile mais superbe etape )
Lai Chau-Tam Duong ( marché de Tam Duong le jeudi matin )
Tam Duong-Sapa ( choisis le family Guesthouse a Sapa apres le Bamboo Hotel, 5 euros et une vue superbe sur la vallee )
Sapa-Bac Ha ( marche de Can Cau le samedi matin, a 30 km de Bac Ha )
Bac Ha-Xin Man ( marché de Bac Ha et de Xin Man le dimanche matin, choix difficile, les 2 sont somptueux, Xin Man pas du tout touristique )
Xin Man-Ha Giang ( magnifique )
Ha Giang-Meo Vac ( on entre dans une autre dimension ) ATTENTION normalement il faut un permis pour circuler dans cette region, j ai fais sans, pas de probleme. ATTENTION c est tellement beau qu il y a un risque d avoir les larmes aux yeux
Meo Vac-Ba Be ( longue etape, route difficile, beaucoup de piste )
Pour cette etape, tu peux t arreter a Bao Lac.
Ba Be - Hanoi ( splendide parc national, tu peux dormir chez l habitant en bordure du lac et y faire une promenade en bateau le lendemain )
Boucle quasi complete, elle te laissera un souvenir imperissable.
Il y a 2 agences qui te permettront de reellement de decouvrir le Nord. Ils connaissent par coeur cette region pour l avoir parcouru jusqu a en connaitre tous les sentiers, ils l aiment, la respectent, ils ont un reseau d amis partout dans le Nord qui te permettra d avoir un reel echange avec la population.
Compagnie Bourlingue et Vietattitude.
Ce sont des passionnes pas comme certaines agences qui se le disent. J ai travaille pour une agence de Hanoi qui se disait figure de proue de l ecotourisme et tout le blabla .... le patron roulait en BMW a 60 000 $.
J'envisage de partir au vietnam au mois de fevrier avec ma copine et je regarde les itineraires, l'idée de la moto m'a plut, tu pourrais m'en dire un peu plus, combien ca coute pour deux semaines par exemple?, est ce qu'il faut un permis? est ce que tu peu monter a deux sur une moto?
Je pensais partir deux semaines ou trois semaine au vietnam et deux semaine en thailande, mais d apres ce que je peu lire sur les forums il vaudrait peut etre se consacrer qu'au vietnam vu qu'il y a tellement de villes a visiter! Qu'en pensez vous est ce que c'est faisable de faire deux ou trois semaine au vietnam et deux semaines en thailande ou est ce que c 'est trop court?
Merci
Si tu souhaites venir a Sapa je serais tres heureux de te faire decouvrir la region.
J'y habites depuis plus de 2 ans et demi et connait plein d'endroits sympas et peu touristiques.
2j et 1n comme certains le disent est tout simplement une pure heresie ! Pour pleinement decouvrir la region 3 jours est un minimum. 1 semaine l'ideal mais rares sont ceux qui le font (Sapa n'est pas limite aux tours proposes a Hanoi...)
Si tu souhaites plus d'informations je serais heureux de te repondre.
bonjour,
si vous allez au Vienam en juin ou en juillet, je devrais vous predire une chaleur terrible, c'est a dire, il va faire tres chaud. pourtant, les payseges seront tres beaux.
pour votre15 jours au nord, vous pouvez visiter tout le nord du Viet nam. mais si vous etes tout seul, le tarif du voyage coutera plus cher.
je vous passe un circuit
jour 1: hanoi - sapa
jour2 : visite de sapa
jour 3 : visite d' un marche a Lao cai( si vous y allez mardi ou samedi., ou dimache)
jour 4: Ha noi visite
jour5 : Hanoi - baie d' Along( dormir sur le bateau)
jour 6: Halong - L'ile Catba ( dormir a l'hotel )
jour 7: Catba - Hai phong ( en hydroglisseur)- Tam coc
jour 8: Tam coc - Hoa lu
jour 9 : Ninh Binh - Maichau
jour 10 :Maichau trekking
jour 11 : maichau trekking
jour 12 : maichau trekking
jour 13: maichau - pagode des parfums- Ha Noi.
jour 14 : libre
merci fabworld pour ton itineraire, je pense partir fin janvier pour Hong Kong puis passer qques semaines au vietnam et ta formule moto me plait beaucoup. possible de louer une moto pour plusieurs semaines? une idée du tarif? (eh oui encore et tjrs l'argent) et pas de probleme de vol?, de surveillance? etc etc pas passer son temps a surveiller la machine.
Pas mal voyagé en Amerique et en Afrique mais encore jamais en Asie alors vous allez me revoir sur d'autres post, je suis à la recherche de ...tout tuyau utile...
ceux qui ne s'éloignent jamais de leur lit et comptent mourir dedans sont déjà morts...
Le prix de la moto varie de 10$ a 20$ par jour selon le modele. Je te conseille de louer une Minsk, c est robuste et au cas ou tu peux reparer partout. Aucun probleme de vol, a la campagne tu peux laisser ta becane avec les cles dessus, surtout si c est une Minsk. Aucun soucis la dessus. Les Viets sont arnaqueurs ( parfois ) mais pas voleurs.
bonjour a tous,
finalement notre sejour au vietnam se deroulera du 17/06 (soir) au 25/07 (soir)
Nous avons decidé apres mure concertation de prendre un aller retour paris- Ho chi Minh ville via qatars airways.
En effet notre stage sur hanoi debutant la semaine du 23/06, cela nous lassier quelqus jours pour voir saigon, le delta plus quelques villes en remontant. Nous nous consacrerons ensuite au nord puis redescendrons par le train de nuit sur ho chi minh
Qu'en pensez vous? Quel sites dois je priviligier entre le 18 et le 23 ?
Merci d'avance
Thibault
Bonjour
Du 18 au 23 et si vous souhaitez remonter en train, cela ne vous laisse pas une tripotée de temps pour le Sud et les villes intermediaires.
Il y a une multitude d agences qui font visiter le delta, un peu tte la meme chose mais en venant d arriver et si on est pressé et qu on veut qq chose de pas cher c est le mieux (pour nous c etait 25 dol par j et par p, hors repas bien entendu mais deplacements et hotel). Se référer aux grosses agences qui sont indiquées dans ts les guides et qui st quasi ttes dans le quartier ou tt le monde va.
Sinon en remontant (mais en fonction du temps) mon point de chute favori c est Hoi An, la ville splendide et préservée (une rareté au VN) et l ile au large avec ses belles plages, ses grottes pour les chasseurs de nid d hirondelle et d assez jolis fonds. Sans compter que la campagne autour de Hoi An est tres sympa a faire en moto. Pour l hotel la bas, je conseille si il existe encore le Minh A, a un angle du marché, un peu bruyant et spartiate mais c est une ancienne maison de commercant chinois, ambiance Le dernier Empereur garanti. Desuet et charmant.
Sinon pour le Nord, suivez les conseils de fabworld, perso j adore cette région et en particulier Lai Chau et ses alentours. DBP est decevante comme bcp de villes, mais le site est marquant pour ceux qui aiment l histoire, la cuvette, les collines, les PC et les restes de la bataille. Mais sans conteste, dans le coin, ce qui marque ce sont les paysages fabuleux (des qu on monte sur les hauts et qu on sort du delta) et les gens, la vie rurale super ingenieuse et interessante. Tt a été bien détaillé, le passage par DBP en venant de Son La est sympa aussi, la route DBP/Lai Chau tres belle et peu frequentée. Largement le temps de faire cela en 2 semaines, 3 semaines, possible en moto, possible aussi de louer une voiture avec guide, pas tres cher non plus (mais plus que moto). Attention pour les permis, des fois ca peut etre mieux de juste aller passer voir la police pour demander la permission. En general ils l accordent et en general aussi les guides savent ce genre de chose et savent comment faire.
Il peut etre sympa sur un WE de 3 jours d aller faire un tour a Sapa en prenant le train de nuit, simple, pas cher et rafraichissant en venant du delta. Sapa est bien pour tourner dans les environs ou faire le Fansipan pour ceux qui aiment la montagne.
Halong, perso bof mega bof mais bon les gouts, les couleurs...
Hanoi est une ville extra qu il faut aussi prendre le temps de decouvrir, probablement une ville bien plus authentique et pepere que HCM. Les vieux quartiers, la vie dans les rues et ruelles sont a voir bien plus que les marionettes flottantes. Bcp de parcs et de petits quartiers ou s insinuent une vie tradi a rencontrer. La encore passer la trouille du debut : la circulation !!! des bus de ville, des xe om, des taxis et pourquoi pas la location de moto pour se ballader. Bcp de tres bons restos a ptt prix, la nourriture de la rue est aussi pas mal.
Et le must, le matin tres tres tot dans les rues ou dans les parcs (Lenine en particulier) : le tai chi, la gym style toutouyoutou, le badminton etc...
Bref la ville et le Nord vous permettent de vous en mettre plein les mirettes et de decouvrir un pays plein d energie en plein boom mais encore gorgé de sa culture originale.
merci pour ta reponse
je sais que ça ne laisse pas beaucoup de temps pour le sud mais notre objectif principal est le nord. Nous tenions quand meme a voir quelques sites aux sud et aux centre histoire de se donner une idée
D'ou le dilemme: que faire du 18 au 22?
Re-
Il fallait lire dans le delta 3 jours pour 25 dol/personnes. Le mieux de mon point de vue c est le soir de l arrivée prendre un forfait avec une agence locale pour 2/3 jours dans le delta. Pas de prise de tete de depart et ca permet de se familiariser avec le pays. En general les tours font quasi ts les memes trucs mais etrangement on avait croisé quasi personne, de plus c est rythme VNmien donc prevoir 8 visites dans la journée, pas de course ou presque. Mais globalement pour une premiere et pour un apercu du Sud c est bien. Nous c etait marché flottant de je sais plus ou, ballade a pied et en bateau dans le delta, pause velo rapide puis depart pour Cho Doc a la frontiere cambodgienne, bus, ferme des crocos, bateau sur le Mekong, retour le lendemain apres une visite d une ferme aquacole, du village cham, d un temple et vue sur Cambodge.
Franchement ce n est pas vraiment ma conception de la decouverte mais j avais peu de temps pour le Sud (je bossais a Hanoi et peu de congés), donc au final ca m allait.
Apres je suis remonté avec les navettes bus pour les touristes, j ai été a Hoi An pres de Danang, puis de Danang a Hanoi en train. Le train vaut vraiment le coup : paysages splendides et ambiance vraiment sympa a l interieur. Confort tres correct. Comme j avais un peu plus de temps tt de meme je suis resté 4 jours a Hoi An.
Donc ca ferait : Arrivée HCM le 18 / 2 à 3 jours dans le delta avec une agence locale bien entendu / remontée a Hanoi soit direct par le train (ca prend tt de meme plus de 30 heures/32 pour l express si je me souviens bien), soit avec un arret sur le chemin en fonction du temps que vous avez et perso je conseille Hoi An (direct en bus, arret a Danang et taxi si voyage en train).
Les autres points de chute a part Hoi An sur le trajet qui remonte selon vos centres d interet : Mui Ne si plage et dunes / Nha Trang si ville, plage et snorkeling mais un peu tristou de mon point de vue : Palavas sous les tropiques / Hue si interet pour archi et histoire.
Danang ne presente pas d interet sauf si on est passionné de culture cham.
Voila planning serré alors a calculer et recalculer sur place. Possible aussi de ne faire qu une journée dans le delta et de remonter en s arretant dans les points de chute cités ci dessus. Attention le VN est tres grand et le trajet du sud au nord tres long, que ce soit en train ou en bus.
bon va falloir que je prevois un deuxieme voyage alors😉
merci en tout cas pour tes reponses
Hué et hoi an nous interessent particulierement
Pourquoi ne pas utiliser l'ensemble de notre temps pour ces 2 villes (et alentours) et garder le delta pour un hypothetique futur voyage au cambodge (c'est pas tres loin😕)
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Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
