Je pars trois semaines cet été (aoüt-septembre) au Kenya, j'ai pas mal consulté les guides papier et les forums de voyage mais j'ai encore du mal à me décider car même si je veux faire un safari je ne souhaite pas aller dans les parcs très courus (je souhaite vraiment découvrir des lieux inoubliables sans avoir 15 minibus autour d'un troupeau de lions... :-))...c'est pourquoi j'ai plus ou moins éliminé de mon programme le parc d'amboseli ou celui du masai mara mais arrêtez moi si je me trompe je n'y suis jamais allée c'est juste l'impression que j'ai à la lecture des messages...
Donc voilà ce que je souhaitais faire: passer un ou deux jours à nairobi puis prendre un matatu pour le lac naivasha y passer 2/3 nuits pour faire un safari à pied dans le hell's gate park (si certains l'ont fait est ce que ça vous a plu?), les autres jours se reposer avant de retourner sur nairobi...
ensuite donc revenir sur nairobi pour faire un safari de 5 jours (je n'ai pas des moyens énormes...) qui comprend le parc de samburu, les lacs de Baringo, bogoria et nakuru (biensur je sais qu il y a beaucoup d'affluence a nakuru mais j'ai très envie de voir les flamants roses...), ce circuit m'a plu car peu d'organisme propose le lac baringo qui a l'air d'être une merveille,
en revenant sur nairobi prendre l'avion (ou le bus, le train...) pour aller à lamu et redescendre la côte pour rejoindre monbasa d'où part mon vol retour.
La 2ème option est un safari de 8 jours qui comprend samburu, marsabit, chalbi desert, lac turkana (très peu d'organisme le propose également...) mais pour l instant à la date à laquelle nous voulons partir nous ne sommes que 2 participants et il en faut trois...et la fin du séjour la côte à partir de lamu également...
Je voudrai des conseils sur ce qui vous a vraiment plu au kenya, les tribus, les parcs, les paysages, les lieux que vous avez préféré en sachant que sûr nous ferons un safari en camping...et sur ce qui vous a plu comme lieu(s) sur la côte également ou dans les environs de nairobi...
J'ai juste réservé le billet aller retour pour l'instant (aller nairobi- retour mombasa)
Merci par avance de tous vos bons conseils et expériences. A bientôt
Je viens de lire votre message concernant votre voyage safaris au kenya.Pour commencer, c'est vrai qu'i ya peu d'organisme proposant certains endroits vise dans votre programmela raison etant dans les u de ces lieux la securite y est pas sure a cause des confilts frequents entrea les nomadistes et bienqur que des bandits.
Par contre, pour l'histoire de 15 bus autour d'un lion..c'est toujours rectifiable, y des guides organisant bien des sejours selons vos gouts et demandes..donc ce que vous souhaiterez c'est qu;on vous fera.
Nous sommes aussi partis au kenya avec un guide local au kenya organisant des voayges individuel alors que ce vous sera bien ideal pas de grand monde..je vous passe ses coordonnees en M.P.
J'ai un souvenir émerveillé du plateau de Laïkipia, au pied du Mont Kenya.
Il est possible de faire des safaris à pied en camping vers Lewa, il me semble.
merci à tous les 2 pour vos messages,
Chouchou69, pour le plateau de Laïkipia, ça me tentait bien quand j'ai vu qu'il y avait des ranchs qui faisait des programmes un peu comme en chambre d'hôtes, malheuresement tous ce que j'ai trouvé est bien au dessus de mon budget j'ai rien trouvé à moins de 200$ /pers/nuit et j'ai vu que les véhicules extérieurs n'étaient pas acceptés (ça c'est normal on rentre pas chez les autres comme ça ;-))
Donc je veux bien avoir les infos sur le camping depuis Lewa que tu as fait car ce sera forcément moins cher merci beaucoup en tout cas et ça me tente bien...
Cedricbelo, merci encore pour les coordonnées j'attend la réponse, de toute façon j'ai de moins en moins envie d'aller au lac turkana car ça fait beaucoup de temps de route et la vallée du rift me tente beaucoup plus à la place.
S'il vous avez d'autres endroits qui vous ont plu n'hésitez pas à m'en faire part...
A bientôt
Je n'ai pas fait moi-même ce safari à pied, j'en ai juste entendu parler.
Il me semble que c'est à Lewa, moi j'étais à Borana, juste à côté, et on atterrissait à Lewa, ils ont dû m'en parler sur place.
bonjour,
comme le turkana est loin et laborieux, pourquoi ne pas s'arreter a maralal 2 jours et faire un petit safari a dos de chameaux au yare camel club ? ainsi vous serez "hors des sentiers battus" et vraiment imprégné d'un autre kenya en terres samburu.
je n'ai pas eu le temps de le faire mais c'est une option qui me parait interressante.
ceci rajouté a lamu vous fera decouvrir de nombreuses facettes du pays.
3 jours a naivasha me parait beaucoup.vous pouvez faire le parc et le hells gate en 1 jour.pour la marche, vous pouvez aussi faire le cratere longonot (une journée).
les lacs bogoria et baringo sont a voir et pourquoi pas faire une excursion en territoire pokot .
j'ai beaucoup aimé le parc samburu et je vous le recommade.
voila qqs idées, bonne preparation et bon voyage §§
Merci beaucoup mimikita pour votre réponse avec de très bonnes idées j avais pense faire la balade au bord du cratère longonot aussi dans les 3 nuits a naivasha... Le chameau j aime beaucoup il faut que je me renseigne mais si c est compris dans la boucle des lacs et de samburu ça peut être complique avec l organisme du circuit qui devra attendre a maralal...meme si je n ai toujours pas réserve mon safari ! C est assez dur d' organiser un voyage au Kenya avec un budget moyen😊 sinon comment faire l excursion en territoire pokot ? En matatu? L avez vous fait? Merci encore
non, je ne l'ai pas fait , mais d'apres mes lectures , le lac baringo club propose des excursions aux villages pokots.
parait-il que la route qui va de loruk /tangulbei/kisima a maralal est superbe avec de nombreux habitats pokots. par contre , pas de matatu , prevoir une reserve d'essence et un 4*4 est necessaire.
si vous etes anglophone, je peux vous donner les coordonnees d'un chauffeur/guide qui connait tres bien cette region ainsi que maralal et ses alentours.(sa famille vit la-bas).
Merci beaucoup encore pour ces bons conseils, je regarde pas mal de possibilités et de part les mp que je reçois je suis presque convaincue que pour notre 1 er voyage au Kenya je vais faire masai mara, j avais très envie de faire samburu mais plusieurs internautes et organismes m ont dit que cette année en mars il y a eu pas mal d' inondations et que les animaux se sont deplaces et on ne sait pas si ils ont été réintroduit bon enfin faudrait que quelqu un m eclaire sur tout ça sinon je sais pas si je vais faire samburu je trouve ça dommage mais bon...du coup samburu et la région marsabit turkana jpense que ce sera lors d' un prochain voyage...
L itinéraire que j etudie en ce moment n est plus du tout hors des sentiers battus! Quoique il suffit de s éloigner un peu... Donc je débuterai par un safari de 4/5 jours au masai mara avec 3 nuits dans le parc après on nous dépose a naivasha et nous démarrons la partie vallée du rift par nous même donc 1 jour hells gate 1 jour cratère longenot(ou pas a voir) lendemain 1 jour nakuru après 1 jour bogoria baringo puis le lendemain retour Nairobi vu que c est en bus et matatu je compte 1 bonne journée puis avion lamu qqlque jours lamu évidement puis on redescent la cote et peut être 3ou4 jours safari tsavo et qqlques jours cote sud Mombasa et retour par avion... En 3 semaines ça vaut le coup ou ça fait courir? Merci pour vos avis a bientôt
De retour du Kenya depuis maintenant plus d'un mois, je vais raconter dans les grandes lignes comment s est déroulé notre voyage
Nous sommes arrivés à nairobi vers 19h30 et avons fait la queue pour les visas(je dirai 20 min d' attente pas plus mais nous avons peut etre eu de la chance, le tarif était de 25 dollars), ensuite nous avons échangé un peu de monnaie mais le taux de l aeroport n est pas très avantageux, après taxi et nuit à l hôtel (nous avons préfèré ne pas prendre des hôtels fabuleux à Nairobi pour se faire plaisir ailleurs, mais les hébergements de Nairobi me semblait assez cher dans l ensemble)
Le lendemain nous avons démarré le safari au masai mara réservé depuis la France grâce aux bons conseils des voyageurs de ce forum, donc nous avions choisi de faire un safari de 3 nuits en camping (tout le reste du voyage on s est débrouillé directement sur place c est facile de se déplacer en matatu mais j y viendrai après ) safari donc avec un cuisinier génial (je croyais qu on allait toujours manger la même chose eh bien pas du tout c était délicieux en plus) et un chauffeur très bien c est vraiment pas facile de conduire dans les réserves je précise pour les personnes qui voudrait tenter l expérience et donc un guide parlant français qui trouvait facilement les animaux et nous expliquait plein de détails sur leurs comportements... Moi qui au départ n était pas tenter par le masai mara j ai trouvé ça sublime en + nous y étions pendant la grande migration des gnous bref j ai adoré...
Après toute cette fine équipe nous a déposé au lac naivasha ( l après midi il s est mis à pleuvoir malgré le fait qu aout- septembre soit la saison sèche on a eu pas mal de pluie), à cause de la pluie on en a profité pour de reposer un peu au fisherman ça fait du bien aussi finalement.
Le lendemain on a loué des vélos pour voir le parc du hells gate, labas on a vu des troupeaux de gazelles traverser juste devant nous, les phacochères aussi on a vu une girafe de très près, enfin c était vraiment de bons moments après on a posé les vélos et on a marché dans les gorges, beaucoup de rochers à escalader n y allez pas avec des fringues bien propres parcequ on est très sales à la fin!
L après midi peu de temps après etre revenu du parc, on a de nouveau eu des trombes d' eau donc on a décidé de partir pour nakuru, on a pris un matatu du lac naivasha à la ville de naivasha puis un autre jusque nakuru, c est assez rapide.
En arrivant sur nakuru on a trouvé un guide pour voir le parc de nakuru le lendemain...
A 6h30 on a donc été au parc j ai eu un beau coup de cœur malgré tous les avis mitigés que j avais reçu en mp, déjà j y ai vu le rhinocéros, ensuite la première fois que l on voit autant de flamants roses je pense que ça marque, le parc est plein d' oiseaux que je n ai vu nullepart ailleurs et il y a un point de vue magnifique pour dominer le parc donc vraiment je le recommande.
Le midi on réfléchissait à la suite du parcours et on a choisi de prendre un matatu pour marigat puis à marigat un matatu pour le Lac baringo, on a dormi dans une banda au roberts camp c était génial on a décidé d' y rester 3 nuits, par contre faire très attention les hippopotames viennent brouter la nuit juste à côté!
Le lendemain on s est reposé et l après midi on a fait une excursion en bateau sur le Lac baringo avec la population locale, plein d' oiseaux encore une fois mais aussi des crocodiles et des hippopotames...on a été voir une communauté de pêcheur sur une des îles aussi on a senti qu il n y avait pas beaucoup de touristes par labas ça reste de très bons souvenirs
Le lendemain on avait envie d' aller au lac bogoria, on a pris un matatu pour marigat puis un autre pour le Lac bogoria, on voulait voir le parc à pied d' après la carte du lonely y avait environ 6 km jusqu aux geysers mais sur place c était en fait 13km depuis le panneau auquel on ajoute 2km pour marcher jusqu au panneau donc on a loué une mobylette c était génial des milliers de flamants roses qui s envolent, les geysers aussi , nous avons aussi eu la chance de voir le grand koudou.
Le lendemain nous sommes retourné à Nairobi, toujours en matatu, on en a profité pour voir les marchés et pour diner au carnivore, incontournable pour qui aime la viande , un peu cher quand même mais ça les vaut. On a été aussi voir la maison de Karen blixen on a eu un peu de mal à se repérer dans les matatus pour se déplacer à Nairobi mais ne pas hésiter à demander au chauffeur ou aux personnes qui "animent" les matatus, sinon négocier les taxis surtout le soir ne pas se déplacer seul on le répétera jamais assez!
Le lendemain soir nous avons pris le train de nuit pour nous rendre à Mombasa, nous avions pris une cabine en 1ère classe pour 2 personnes mais la 2ème classe est très bien pour les familles de 4 personnes. C est une très belle expérience que je conseille et le train prend son temps ce qui est assez agréable après autant de trajets en matatu...
Arrivée à Mombasa on a pris un tuktuk pour prendre le ferry pour aller sur la côte au sud de Mombasa on a passé 3 nuits sur tiwi beach c est très tranquille la plage est belle, on a pris un taxi un soir pour diner au restaurant Ali barbour s cave restaurant à diani, un restaurant dans une grotte à ciel ouvert, tout simplement magique et la cuisine est divine bref même si vous êtes en séjour tout compris à diani je le recommande complètement!
Une matinée nous nous sommes promenés dans la vieille ville de Mombasa j ai beaucoup aimé...
Après tiwi nous avons remonté la côte pour kilifi , très tranquille aussi j ai aussi bien aimé ce coin, les plages sont fréquentés beaucoup par les locaux on a pas mal discuté, un matin on a pris un matatu pour voir les ruines de gede on était seul sur le site swahili, pour qui aime l histoire ces ruines sont très intéressantes il y a des guides très compétents à l entrée
Après on a été à l arabuko soloke Forest on a été un peu déçu car on a vu très peu d' oiseaux et on a juste entr'aperçu le rat à trompe mais je pense que c est une question de chance!
On est ensuite parti pour malindi ( parfait point de départ pour lamu), encore beaucoup de pluie du coup on a évité le snorkelling car après la pluie les eaux sont parait il troubles, mais sinon le site vaut le coup d' après ce qu on nous a dit...
Et ensuite nous avons pris le bus (à réserver la veille) pour lamu où nous avons passé 4 jours , lamu c est l endroit que nous avons vraiment préféré sur la côte, je recommande fortement d' y aller même si le trajet sur la piste pour s y rendre en bus est terrible!
On a pris un petit avion pour retourner sur Mombasa ensuite.
Je ne sais pas si toutes mes explications sont claires, mais je peux dire que le Kenya peut très bien se voir en routard en mode roots en individuel ou peu importe comment on l appelle, à aucun moment je n ai regretté de me déplacer par les transports locaux, il faut juste etre un minimum prudent mais finalement comme partout mais dès lors que vous voulez faire un safari dans un parc réserver par une agence locale depuis Nairobi ou Mombasa ou même depuis la France est une bonne solution, mais pour le reste se débrouiller seul avec un guide papier est très simple, à force de messages (parfois agressifs d' ailleurs j ai toujours pas compris pourquoi!) j appréhendais cette solution et en fait tout se passe très bien. Cependant le Kenya est une destination pour laquelle il faut faire quelques économies car les entrées dans les parcs sont très chères
N hésitez surtout pas si vous avez des questions, le Kenya est une superbe destination
Cherchant à organiser mon voyage au Kenya dans les prochaines semaines, je suis tombée sur votre message très complet. Pourriez-vous svp m'indiquer le nom de votre guide pour le safari du masai mara?
D'autre part, vous me rassurez sur la possibilité de voyager en matatu au Kenya : en lisant de nombreux messages, j'avais l'impression que c'était chose totalement impossible.
D'autre part, serait-il possible que vous m'indiquiez votre budget pour ces 3 semaines de vacances?
J'imagine que les prix ont évolué mais ça me donnera une bonne indication.
Tout d'abord je te rassure le Kenya c'est génial à découvrir par soi même avec les transports locaux, donc les matatus et c'est vrai que beaucoup de personnes ne sont pas rassurées mais vraiment ça se fait bien et ça rattrape bien un budget car ce n'est pas cher!
Le budget déjà à la louche, tout compris (sauf le billet d'avion) 3400 euros pour 2. C'est la destination la plus chère que nous ne nous soyons jamais offerte quoique depuis nous sommes allés en Nouvelle-Zélande! Mais c'est aussi quelque chose que l'on ne peut pas regretter.
Bon ce n'est pas le sujet! Alors notre guide c'était Erick, je t'envoi les coordonnées mail par MP nous avions choisi l'option camping 840 euros pour 2 dans un minibus tout seul, 4 jours, 3 nuits, tout le matériel de camping est fourni, il y a un cuisinier et un chauffeur aussi et qu'est ce qu'on avait bien mangé. A l'époque nous étions étonné je me souviens!
Bon c'est LA plus grosse dépense.
Le problème au Kenya ce sont les entrées des parcs sans ça ce serait bien plus abordable ou alors il faut être expatrié...Bon encore une fois ce n'est pas le sujet.
Moi ce que j'ai préféré c'est le Masai Mara, le Lac Bogoria (parce qu'il n'y avait personne) et Lamu.
Jonathan mon amoureux a adoré Masai Mara, Mombasa & Lamu.
Mais je te dirai de ne pas rater Baringo!!! Et Nakuru non plus...
Bon au Kenya on a tout aimé sauf Nairobi en fait. Enfin le Carnivore c'est pas mal quand même...Va faire un petit tour sur mon blog à droite tu as la colonne avec les destinations et j'ai une dizaine d'articles sur le Kenya pour te donner une idée mais ne va pas le voir juste avant de partir gardes toi des surprises!
Voilà je ne sais pas combien de temps tu pars. Trois semaines c'était très bien.
N'hésite pas si tu as d'autres questions.
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March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!