Vu que le fait de rester au cap avec les frais de drop fait un peut trop augmenter le budget, j'envisage de rentrer sur Jobourg.
Voilà l'itinéraire envisagé, pourriez vous me dire ce que vous en pensez ?
J13 Kgalagadi Lodge - Kgalagadi - Grootkolk
J14 Kgalagadi - Grootkolk
J15 Kgalagadi Grootkolk - Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp
J16 Kgalagadi Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp
J17 Kgalagadi - Augrabies Falls
J18 Augrabies Falls
J19 Augrabies Falls - Taaiboskraal (namaqualand)
J20 Taaiboskraal
J21 Taaiboskraal - Western National Park
J22 Western National Park
J23 Western National Park - Mount Ceder
J24 Mount Ceder
J25 Mount Ceder - Karaoo National Park
J26 Karaoo National Park
J27 Karaoo National Park - Bloemfontein
J28 Bloemfontein - Jobourg - Depart Paris
Pour le dernier jour tout dépendra de l'heure du retour de l'avion selon on pourra rajouter un J29
C'est plus le prix du billet sur le Cap qui risque d'augmenter le prix du voyage que les frais de drop off...
En août, j'irais plus à Kieliekrankie qu'au Kalahari Tc. C'est en dur, il y fera plus chaud ! (En plus, c'est plus beau...)
Tu peux facilement faire la vallée de l auob depuis ce camp.
Sur ta route de retour, y a le Mountain Zebra. Dans quelques jours sur mon carnet. .😇
En août, j'irais plus à Kieliekrankie qu'au Kalahari Tc. C'est en dur, il y fera plus chaud ! (En plus, c'est plus beau...)
Le froid ne me dérange pas, j'ai surtout ciblé les 3 camps où je souhaite me rendre en priorité, après on verra en fonction des disponiblités. Mais je le je note
Sur ta route de retour, y a le Mountain Zebra. Dans quelques jours sur mon carnet. .😇
Tu enlèves ce parc Western National Park et tu remplaces également Bloemfontein par Golden Gate Highlands (uniquement si il y a de la place pour se loger à Highland retreat). 😉
Une nuit à Bitterpan est une option plus simple. 😉
(Il y avait aussi un court trail près de Twee Rivieren- pas de nuits- mais comme il n'est plus indiqué, je ne sais pas s'il est toujours ouvert)
Les Eco Trail j'avais vu, mais bon camping et tout ça pas pour le moment. J'ai Bitterpan dans mes tablettes, tu y es déjà allé ? La piste est 4x4 est pas trop compliquée ?
Je suis allée à Bitterpan mais j'ai triché en ne prenant pas la longue piste 4x4.
Xtrail et ensablement 2 heures avant pour sortir de Gharagab oblige. 😊
Si c'est comme Gharagab (et je pense que ça l'est), c'est la piste 4x4 la plus compliquée que nous ayons prise jusqu'ici. (franchissement de dunes de sable)
Michel sur ton carnet du coté de mount ceder tu dis avoir fait "Majestirivier" mais quand on regarde sur le site Mountain Pass on ne reconnait pas du tout par apport a tes photos ... tu peux me confirmer que c'est bien celle là ?
L'Eselbank pass c'est bien celle-là. L'arrivée sur Wupperthal ( ou plutôt le départ de Wupperthal a du changé puisqu'en travaux quand on y est passé, ce ne doit plus être le même chemin caillouteux).
Le lien de notre parcours https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/Eselbank+Mor+Primary+School, +Citrusdal, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/Mount+Ceder, +Grootrivier+Farm, +Breede+River+DC, +6836/Wupperthal, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/Clanwilliam, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/@-32.3570834,18.868587,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m26!4m25!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c328b190d916aa7:0x602dd4da291e82f0!2m2!1d19.2159999!2d-32.3465!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32a2e5d5cfc243:0x2471cbebe2ecf1f!2m2!1d19.4091432!2d-32.6486958!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c3260add6a6bcf1:0x68ddd407c126c812!2m2!1d19.1939509!2d-32.238726!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32520e5491a8db:0xa508061c650d7a3a!2m2!1d18.8967409!2d-32.1975789!3e0
On traverse bien la Matjiriver (?) nature reserve et c'est le coin le plus top.
En arrivant par le Sud au Mount Ceder: Blinkberg pass / Mount Ceder / Groot River Pass. On file tout droit en laissant à gauche la Kromrivier Pass (pass pour un gars qui n'a pas peur de se noyer et de franchir un gué olé olé). Quand la route fait 90° à gauche (l'Ouest) on file tout droit vers Eselbank Wupperthal.
Au retour, en venant de Clanwilliam, la Nieuwoudt pass et la Uitkyk pass pour revenir au MC. Le retour est bien plus facile mais sur la façade Ouest donc avec plus facilement des nuages.
J'ai pas mal modifié mon itinéraire pour mon prochain voyage en AFS, voilà ce que ça donne maintenant, si vous avez des remarques n’hésitez pas 😛
@Michel il y a de la place dans la voiture 🙂
J1 Avion Jobourg
J2 Route Parc Kruger - Nelspruit - www.beetleloop.co.za/
J3 Arrivé Kruger - Byamiti
J4 Byamiti
J5 Byamiti - Départ Tamboti
J6 Tamboti
J7 Tamboti - Depart shindzela
J8 Shindzela
J9 Shindzela - Jobourg - Sunrock GuestHouse
J10 Jobourg - Golden Gate Highlands
J11Golden Gate Highlands
J12 Golden Gate Highlands - Mt Zebra National Park
J13 Mt Zebra National Park
J14 Mt Zebra National Park - Samara Private Game
J15 Samara Private Game
J16 Samara Private Game - Graf Reynet - aaqtansisi.co.za
J17 Camdeboo National Park
J18 Camdeboo National Park - Karaoo National Park
J19 Karaoo National Park
J20 Karaoo National Park - Mount Cedar
J21 Mount Cedar
J22 Mount Cedar - Western National Park
J23 Western National Park www.farrout.co.za/
J24 Western National Park - Taaiboskraal
J25 Taaiboskraal
J26 Taaiboskraal - Augrabies Falls
J27 Augrabies Falls
J28 Augrabies Falls - kgalagadi Lodge
J29 kgalagadi Lodge - Kgalagadi - Grootkolk
J30 Kgalagadi - Grootkolk
J31 Kgalagadi Grootkolk - Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp
J32 Kgalagadi Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp
J33 Kgalagadi - Lichtenburg
J34 Retour Paris
Je ne suis pas sûre que deux nuits au golden gate highland, ça ne fasse pas un peu trop surtout qu après ton étape est chargée. Une nuit et le lendemain une nuit pour te rapprocher de Mountain Zebra.
Pour le ktp, il est où le lodge où tu veux dormir avant Grootkolk ?
Si c'est celui à moins de 5 km de l entrée et que l horaire d ouverture du parc correspond à l horaire d ouverture des camps, c'est bon.
Je ne suis pas sûre que deux nuits au golden gate highland, ça ne fasse pas un peu trop surtout qu après ton étape est chargée. Une nuit et le lendemain une nuit pour te rapprocher de Mountain Zebra.
Le problème c'est qu'entre le moment ou je récupère la voiture et le moment de partir ça risque de faire juste pour profiter du parc .. J'ai deux grosses étapes sur mon voyage celle-ci et celle me ramenant du KTP à Lichtenburg. Mais il faut se rapprocher le plus possible pour l'avion.
Pour le ktp, il est où le lodge où tu veux dormir avant Grootkolk ?
Si c'est celui à moins de 5 km de l entrée et que l horaire d ouverture du parc correspond à l horaire d ouverture des camps, c'est bon.
C'est celui là : http://www.kgalagadi-lodge.co.za/ il est censé être juste a coté de l'entrée .... par contre pas tout compris sur l'histoire de l'horaire 🏴☠️
Le problème c'est qu'entre le moment ou je récupère la voiture et le moment de partir ça risque de faire juste pour profiter du parc..
Ce parc n'est pas si loin de Johannesbourg.
En arrivant, tu auras le temps de te promener au dessus des bungalows du Highland retreat + le coucher du soleil.
Le lendemain, tu fais les deux loops en voiture (aller à la cache à vautours) et une des courtes promenades piétonnes en face du camp principal.
Tu as ensuite largement le temps de prévoir ton étape suivant à 100 kilomètres de là (Fouriesburg, Ficksburg).
Ça fera toujours ça de moins à faire pour rallier Mountain Zebra !😉
C'est celui là : www.kgalagadi-lodge.co.za/ il est censé être juste a coté de l'entrée....
Il l'est bien.
par contre pas tout compris sur l'histoire de l'horaire 🏴☠️
Y a des fois où les horaires des portes extérieures des parcs ne correspondent pas aux horaires d'ouverture de celles des camps.
Il vaut mieux donc vérifier !
(Après, généralement ça ne joue qu'à 30 minutes- 1 heure sauf l'entrée KTP depuis la Namibie où, à cause de la frontière, les horaires sont assez horaires de bureau)
Y a des fois où les horaires des portes extérieures des parcs ne correspondent pas aux horaires d'ouverture de celles des camps.
Il vaut mieux donc vérifier !
Sur cette page il est indiqué que les portes ouvrent à 7h du matin, donc si j'ai bien compris les portes des camps ouvrent à 7h00 et ferme à 18h30 en août.
En partant à 7h00, on va dire 8h00 avec les formalités, avec 6 h de route ça fait arriver à 14h00, ça laisse donc une marge assez important pour traîner 😛
Sur cette page il est indiqué que les portes ouvrent à 7h du matin, donc si j'ai bien compris les portes des camps ouvrent à 7h00 et ferme à 18h30 en août.
Sur cette page, il est indiqué que tu ne peux pas entrer au KTP par la porte de Twee Rivieren avant 07 00 quelque soit la saison et que tu ne peux pas sortir du camp de Twee Rivieren pour baguenauder parmi les fauves avant 07 00 en août.
Tu serais en janvier et tu logerais à Twee rivieren, tu pourrais aller en safari dès 05 30 alors qu'un visiteur extérieur devrait lui toujours attendre que les 0700 sonnent...
En partant à 7h00, on va dire 8h00 avec les formalités, avec 6 h de route ça fait arriver à 14h00, ça laisse donc une marge assez important pour traîner 😛
TR - Grootkolk, c'est bon . Un peu long mais pas de course contre la montre.😉
Un bonjour à Shindzela. J'espère que la RP de Samara est bien. Un coucou au Mount Ceder. Préviens Camdeboo , Karoo et Moutain Zebra que je viendrais.
Re coucou aux girafes des Augrabies.
Je te souhaite de voir plein de lions au KTP !
Je commence doucement à m'interessé à la partie sud-africaine de notre voyage de cet été et je me demandais pourquoi avoir choisi cet itinéraire pour le Cederberg ? (cf plus haut)
N'y a t'il pas moyen de traverser le parc naturelle entre Clanwilliam et Mont Ceder ?
Euh...c'est Régis qui fait un parcours intéressant et original...
Si, il y a une 4x4 road qui va du Mount Ceder vers Clanwilliam via Esselbank et Wupperthal.
Un poil sportif mais super super...un forumeur l'a même fait en 4x4...version vélo.
Tu peux trouver cette route sur la carte (tu traverses la Majestiriver) et une partie sur le site Moutain Passes et là https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/Mount+Ceder, +Grootrivier+Farm, +Breede+River+DC, +6836, +Afrique+du+Sud/Wupperthal, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/Clanwilliam, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/@-32.3565033,18.8685899,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m20!4m19!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32a2e5d5cfc243:0x2471cbebe2ecf1f!2m2!1d19.4091432!2d-32.6486958!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c3260add6a6bcf1:0x68ddd407c126c812!2m2!1d19.1939509!2d-32.238726!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32520e5491a8db:0xa508061c650d7a3a!2m2!1d18.8967409!2d-32.1975789!3e0
Alors déja qu'y a t'il à voir/à faire au Cederberg ?
Initialement je pensais faire 1 nuit du coté de Clanwilliam et une nuit du coté de Mont Ceder et traverser le Cederberg en diagonale.
Mais tant qu'à faire j'aimerais ne pas faire que de la voiture et j'aimerais bien faire une petite rando de quelques heures. Où puis-je trouver les différents sentiers de randos ? 😊
Tu as quelques renseignements dans mon dernier carnet de février. Il y a des balades plus longues que celles que j ai faites.
Tout sinon est sur le site officiel : cape nature rubrique cederberg wilderness area.
Il te faudra prendre les entrées et autorisations diverses à Algeria en venant de Citrusdal. Ce parc fait partie de la wild card.
En continuant de mount ceder à tankwa par le chemin le plus court, pas de villes.
Il faudra donc prévoir un plein de courses pour mount ceder et le tankwa avant d entrer au cederberg ou bien tu es bon pour un détour...
East and Southern Africa › South Africa · 5 replies
Hi there, We're considering the following route: - Cape Town - West Coast National Park - Lambert's Bay - Springbok - Upington - KTP That s about 1,250 km in…
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
We're heading to South Africa for a month with 5 adults.
We'd like to rent a vehicle that can accommodate 5 people and all our luggage.
We're starting in Cape Town and ending in Johannesburg.
What vehicle would you recommend?
EDITH
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country.
I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much).
Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy