Lariam ou malarone pour l'Asie du Sud-Est?
by Aisling
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Pour un long voyage en Asie du sud est, j'hésite a prendre Lariam ou Malarone pour me proteger du paludisme. Quelqu'un a t il un avis sur la question ? D'autre part, j'ai lu que le traitement curatif etait aussi preferable (par example plusieurs comprimes d'un coup en cas de symptomes du palu) au traitement preventif ? des conseils et experiences vécues sur le sujet serait les bienvenus.
Allez voir dans la rubrique "rechercher" - rechercher par mot-clé, en tapant lariam et vous devriez découvrir pas mal de mails où l'on parle des effets secondaires 😠 du lariam !
Michelle
Long, c'est combien de temps ?
Et pourquoi pas Doxypalu qui vient de m'être prescrit par un service spécialisé de l'hôpital et confirmé par l'Institut Pasteur ?
Beaucoup moins cher que Malarone.
Béatrice
Merci beaucoup Carrincha, Michelle et Beatrice,
Il s'agit d'un voyage en Chine, Laos, Cambodge, Thailand (peut-être Birmanie), Malaisie et Singapour sur 6 mois environ. Pour l'instant je serais plutot tenté par la Malarone en traitement curatif (4 comprimés X 3 prises à 8 heures d'intervalles en cas de symptomes palustres), car pour un long voyage le traitement préventif ne convient pas et reviendrait trop cher. Entre Malarine et Doxipalu, je ne sais pas ? Le problème c'est que les avis sont très variés et contradictoires sur ce site et ailleurs. Merci quand même pour vos avis.
... donc si je comprends bien, tu ne prendrais rien, ni Lariam, ni autres anti-palu, meme pour Bornéo ?
Certainement pas ! Ce que je dis concerne le lariam.
J'ai connu personnellement 2 personnes au Zaïre qui sont décédées d'une malaria cérébrale.........Et la prévention sert srtt pour ce type de malaria !
Le conseil que je peux te donner c'est de consulter ton médecin ainsi que de des références scientifiques comme ( en tant que Belge !)le site de l'institut tropical d'Anvers- de renommée mondiale. http://www.itg.be mais vous en avez aussi en France, bien-sûr !
Bon voyage .🙂
Michelle
merci Michelle !
Bonjour
je pars moi aussi pour 3/4 mois en Asie et mon médecin ne sait pas me répondre sur la durée du traitement : il me prescrit du malarone.mais je ne sais pas combien de temps je dois le prendre ? les 3 mois d'affilléeou comme tu sembles le dire plutôt que si symptome ? merci de ton expérience ou conseils obtenus sur le sujet !
je pars moi aussi pour 3/4 mois en Asie et mon médecin ne sait pas me répondre sur la durée du traitement : il me prescrit du malarone.mais je ne sais pas combien de temps je dois le prendre ? les 3 mois d'affilléeou comme tu sembles le dire plutôt que si symptome ? merci de ton expérience ou conseils obtenus sur le sujet !
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c est particuliereement incroyable ici le nombre de personne qui ont connu qq un qui est mort du plasmodium
eh bien moi qui je vais en afrique depuis 1953 j ai jamais encore connu qq un de mort du palu chez les europeens bien sur !!!
les populations locales meurent le plus souvent par ignorance;soins tardifs;centre de soins eloignes, manque de moyens de plus les morts sont principalement dans les populations faibles, malades ou en bas ages
il faut savoir que l OMS apres multiples enquetes a vu le palu dimminuer de 70% dans certaines zones seulement avec l utilisation de la moustiquaire
jipi le zanatany
le voyage permet de garder l esprit ouvert aux autres
Peut-être as- tu un jour rencontré qlq 'un qui en est mort donc tu ne l'as plus revu !😛
C'est parfois une question de chance, parfois d'être en état de faiblesse !
Je ne suis pas certaine non plus que tous les hébergements aient une moustiquaire ds les chb ! Et on peut se faire piquer en dehors de la chb !
En ce qui concerne la doxicycline il y a contre- indication si on s'expose au soleil ainsi que pour les femmes qui prennent la pilule pour laquelle l'efficacité pourrait être diminuée.
A bon entendeur ou "bonne entendeuse"...
Michelle
j ai ma moustiquaire impregnee depuis plus de trente ans qui me suis (bien sur le la change et la reimpregne) et a partir de la tombee de la nuit pantanlon et tee shirt et toute peau qui depasse impregne de repulsif qui sont tres efficaces depuis plusieurs annees
pour la pilule je n en ai pas besoin😛
tous les medicos preventifs ont des effets secondaires
pour ma part depuis longtemps plus de preventif justec un curatif (coartem a base artemisinine ) au cas ou mais pour le moment jamais rien eu
jipi le zanatany
le voyage permet de garder l esprit ouvert aux autres
Attention au Lariam, effets secondaires trés puissants et trés négatifs sur certains sujets, j'en ai fait l'expérience, je n'en reprendrai plus! mais chez certains ça passe, si tu fais le choix du Lariam, essaye le avant de partir! il sera toujours temps de changer d'anti P avant ton départ.
Ne mésestime pas le prob du palu: préventif / curatif, je comprends qu'on hésite car 6 mois c'est long, mais quand même: prudence http://www.pasteur.fr/externe
va voir une consultation médecine tropicale, y'en au moins une par région, à l'hopital.
Voyage avec une moustiquaire imprégnée d’insecticide, couvre toi le soir (soquettes, foulard cou, manches longues), utilise des répulsifs, ( tortillons fumigènes, diffuseurs électriques..) ça ne suffit pas, mais ça réduit quand même les risques. Trés bon voyage à toi!
Ne mésestime pas le prob du palu: préventif / curatif, je comprends qu'on hésite car 6 mois c'est long, mais quand même: prudence http://www.pasteur.fr/externe
va voir une consultation médecine tropicale, y'en au moins une par région, à l'hopital.
Voyage avec une moustiquaire imprégnée d’insecticide, couvre toi le soir (soquettes, foulard cou, manches longues), utilise des répulsifs, ( tortillons fumigènes, diffuseurs électriques..) ça ne suffit pas, mais ça réduit quand même les risques. Trés bon voyage à toi!
mon pharmacien m'a prescrit lariam pour un voyage en thailande dans la règion du triangle d'or. sur un bouquin médical j'ai vu que ce traitement est conseillé aussi pour tes destinations. maintenant a toi de choisir😛
la vie est une épreuve à gagner.
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Bonjour,
Ton pharmacien t'a prescrit quelque chose comme ça ? 🤪
Michel
Ton pharmacien t'a prescrit quelque chose comme ça ? 🤪
Michel
mon pharmacien m'a prescrit lariam pour un voyage en thailande dans la règion du triangle d'or. sur un bouquin médical j'ai vu que ce traitement est conseillé aussi pour tes destinations. maintenant a toi de choisir
Où comment écrire deux énormités en deux lignes. En France, un pharmacien n'a pas le droit de prescrire quoi que ce soit et certainement pas du lariam. Tu as lu sur un bouquin, tu n'as visiblement aucune expérience personnelle du sujet ... et cela suffit pour que tu conseilles quelqu'un ! Sans soute as-tu essayé le lariam et il ne te réussit pas du tout 😉
Où comment écrire deux énormités en deux lignes. En France, un pharmacien n'a pas le droit de prescrire quoi que ce soit et certainement pas du lariam. Tu as lu sur un bouquin, tu n'as visiblement aucune expérience personnelle du sujet ... et cela suffit pour que tu conseilles quelqu'un ! Sans soute as-tu essayé le lariam et il ne te réussit pas du tout 😉
Ninou24,
Je suis persuadée que ton intervention part d'une bonne intention, mais ce n'est quand même pas très sérieux ! Répercuter des conseils (contestables) pour un traitement que tu n'as même pas expérimenté, je ne vois pas bien l'intérêt...
Je suis persuadée que ton intervention part d'une bonne intention, mais ce n'est quand même pas très sérieux ! Répercuter des conseils (contestables) pour un traitement que tu n'as même pas expérimenté, je ne vois pas bien l'intérêt...
Cyrille
alors d'une tu pourrais être un peu plus correct au lieu de te foutre de moi, car j'ai bien dis et je répète que c mon pharmacien qui m'a prescrit le lariam. je suis allée en pharmacie et j'ai demandé quel traitement anti palu été nécessaire pour la thailande. voila et je rajoute que c un très bon pharmacien même si il ne m'a pas demandé d'ordonnance.
d'autre part je sais que je ne connaît rien car à chaque fois que je fais une réponse sur ce forum tu es là pour me le rappeler. or, saches que c pas parce que je n'ai pas effectué autant de voyage que toi que ça fais de moi une personne stupide et sans culture. j'avais répondu à cette personne pour donner mon avis personnel et jusqu'à présent je crois que c le but d'un forum alors merci d'arrêter de toujours critiquer ce que je dis même si je convient ne pas tout savoir et ne pas être aussi cultivé que toi.
je suis désolé de déballer mon sac mais ça commence à m'énerver que l'on me parle comme ça.
j'èspère que tu comprendras et que l'on pourra avoir d'autre conversation plus amicale car moi je veux juste prendre des conseils et en donner quand je peux, bref pouvoir participer normalement à ce forum
la vie est une épreuve à gagner.
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Je ne me souviens pas m'être acharné contre toi comme tu le dis, rappelle moi en privé ce qui t'a heurtée.
La forme de ma réponse est certes un peu vive, mais sur le fond, je ne retire rien.
Désolé d'avoir heurté ta susceptibilité, mais ça aussi, ça fait partie de la vie d'un forum.
Bonjour,
Je ne voudrais pas être outrancièrement contrariant, mais un pharmacien ne prescrit rien.
Michel
Je ne voudrais pas être outrancièrement contrariant, mais un pharmacien ne prescrit rien.
Michel
je suis allée voir mon médecin qui m'a dis que je n'avais pas besoin d'ordonnance et qu'il fallait juste que j'aille à la pharmacie pour que le pharmacien me donne un traitement adapté à ma destination. je suis allée à la pharmacie et celui-ci m'a donné du lariam. après chez moi j'ai vu sur la boite que c uniquement sur ordonnance mais moi le pharmacien m'a rien demandé et mon médecin m'a dis que je n'en avais pas besoin. donc je confirme encore un fois que c mon pharmacien qui m'a donné le traitement.
la vie est une épreuve à gagner.
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Gardez donc un voile discret alors sur les identité de ces deux professionnels. 😉
Michel
Michel
Alors, je résume : ton pharmacien t'a donné un médicament délivré uniquement sans ordonnance, ce dont il n'a pas le droit, ton médecin t'a dit après que tu n'avais pas besoin de ce médicament, et tu conseilles quand même aux autres de le prendre tu vas cherche dans "un bouquin" de vagues conseils, que tu répètes ensuite aux autres...
Ninou, voici le mien de conseil : quand on est aussi peu compétente sur une question qui touche tout de même la santé des gens, on se tait et on garde ses recommandations pour soi...
Il me semble que concernant le traitement préventif du pallu, vu ce que tu nous racontes, tu as plus d'informations à recevoir qu'à donner...
Ninou, voici le mien de conseil : quand on est aussi peu compétente sur une question qui touche tout de même la santé des gens, on se tait et on garde ses recommandations pour soi...
Il me semble que concernant le traitement préventif du pallu, vu ce que tu nous racontes, tu as plus d'informations à recevoir qu'à donner...
Cyrille
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I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!