Perso j'avais pris les deux et après bien des réflexions, je pense que je choisirai le Lonely (même si soi-disant il est un peu moins récent) Le routard a le désaventage d'être (pour la birmanie) un peu moins complet. Mais attention, dis-toi qu'il y a toujours des variations dans les guides.
Ma technique. Soit si c'est possible les louer dans une bibliothèque et faire une brève comparaison, quitte à prendre des notes, soit le photocopier.
En tout les cas, ce ne doit pas être le poids qui doit te freiner, le lonely n'est pas très lourd et le routard non plus.
julien
"poser le pied hors de chez soi, c'est déjà voyager"
Regarde ceci un des carnets de voyage de Nancy très bien expliquer tu peux l'imprimer il te servira beaucoup ce récit est de novembre 2004 donc il est normal que les prix sont en légères augmentation .
Bonne lecture Birmanie - Novembre 2004
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Merci pour vos réponses !
je viens de rentrer du virgin et à priori l'édition la + récente serait celle du Lonely (2005)
a bientôt pour de nelles questions dès que mon circuit sera un peu avancé ...
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
J'osais pas le dire mais je le pensais trés fort !!!😛
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
J'y étais il y a 6 mois, avec le Lonely (le Routard, beurk !). Les prix ont un peu augmenté mais sinon il est tout à fait OK.
Le téléphone de la Royal GH à Mandalay (le must là bas) a changé et comme il vaut mieux réserver deux jours avant si on veut avoir une chambre et que suis une mère pour vous, je vous donne le bon : 02-65697.
Ne me remerciez pas les gars !
Biz
Shaiia
Pour aller loin: ne jamais demander son chemin à qui ne sait pas s’égarer.
J'ai passé 3 semaines le mois dernier en birmanie.
Pour un voyage de 3 semaines je pense qu'il est important d'avoir un guide, type GR ou Lonely afin de
ne pas perdre de temps a chercher les gares, arrets de bus, et d'avoir une idées des horaires.
Pour ma part j'avais le GR, je l'utilse pour les raisons citées plus haut et trés peu pour les gest-house,
restaurants ... il a bien remplit sa fonction.
L'avantage du GR c'est que pratiquement tous les routards que l'on rencontre on le Lonely (on peu
alors le consulter durant les longs trajets), et on a donc des infos un peu différentes.
type GR ou Lonely afin de
ne pas perdre de temps a chercher les gares, arrets de bus, et d'avoir une idées des horaires
triste, , , quant il suffit de aller demander a une personne localement, , et du coup on est en communications avec la population, , ses livres ne font que isoler les gens, , pas de place a l'imprévu la spontanéité, , seulement a l'efficacité, ,
se la me rappelle un post de naps, , qui disait sur un bateau sur le mekong ( laos ) les touristes etain plongés dans leur pl ou r, , et que ils n'ont pas vu les paysages, , tout cela pour tous aller dans la meme guest,
surtout la Birmanie qui a un peuple si accueillant, , et avide de communication, , ne pas oublier que ils sont seuls, , , , , , ils n'attendent que vous, ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Je pense qu'on peut avoir un guide et, malgré tout, sortir des adresses fournies dans ce guide et aller vers les gens. Le fait d'avoir un guide entre les mains ne modifie en rien ma façon de penser. Je prends ce qui m'intéresse. Ca ne n'empêche absolument pas d'aller au hasard si j'en ai envie.
Pour ma part, je prends souvent le Lonely mais sans en faire une bible!
Voyagez, voyagez, il en restera toujours quelque chose!
SLT JE PART EN BIRMANIE LE 26 JUILLET LE LONELY 7e EDITION EST SORTI EN AVRIL ET LE ROUTARD SORT LE 3MAI 06
POUR MA PART JE MET LES DEUX DANS MON SAC,
Trop lourd, trop lourd tout çà !!! 😉
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
aaaarrrh la grande question !!
à mon avis achète les 2 avant de partir....inscrit toutes les infos du routard (que tu ne trouveras pas sur le lonely) et pars avec le lonely...euh j'ai été clair?
tiens une petite infos, , que il n'y a pas ni sur le pl ni sur le R, , ces guides moutons, , il y a une minorité ethnique dans les hautes montagnes de birmanie, , ils sont pas plus grands que des pigmés africains, ,
ils ont de la chance que les bibles ne sont pas arrive chez eux, ,
( ne pas me demander ou ils sont, , je ne suis pas un guide, , c'est a vous de faire l'effort de recherche, ,
je ne donne que l'eau a la bouche, , pas plus, , )
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Partir sans guide, ça peut-être un bon plan... si tu pars longtemps.
Pour les voyageurs qui n'ont que une, deux ou trois semaines à consacrer à un pays, ils te permettent d'aller à l'essentiel. C'est déjà bien.
Sinon, leurs renseignements datent d'un an, voire deux, avant l'impression et aucun des auteurs n'a jamais ni le temps, ni les moyens financiers de voir ou de vérifier tout ce qu'ils conseillent. Donc des surprises - le sel des voyages -
En revanche, il est souvent très intéressant d'aller sur leur site et de consulter les forums...
Le routard se la joue 😇, cela plait à certains... et pas à d'autres
Autre avantage avec ce genre de guide c'est la traduction des villes et/ou sites interessants.
Perdu au fin fond du Yunnan (Chine du sud) ou les gens ne parle que le chinois il est bien pratique de montrer
les idéogrammes chinois du lieux ou l'on veux se rendre ca aide énormement et ca n'empêche aucunement le contact avec la population.
Oui et alors ? le Lonely te fera rencontrer tous les touristes Anglo-saxon du coin non ?
Dans les voyages il est quand meme sympa de rencontrer d'autres voyageurs ne serai-ce que pour
partager ou echanger de idées.
Ouais, c'est vrai, et juste à côté, dans les vallées, il y a une autre minorité ethnique, des géants (comme le géant vert du maïs en boîte). Mais moi non plus, ne pas me demander où ils sont, je ne suis pas un guide, c'est à vous de faire l'effort de recherche, je ne donne que l'eau a la bouche, pas plus.
(La prochaine fois on parlera de la minorité ailée et de celle à trois jambes...).
Que ce soit le Routard, Lonély, Petit futé et tant d'autres guide à mon avis la curiosité personnel sur place est le meilleur guide que l'on peut avoir c'est ce que je fais depuis longtemps la curiosité, bien sur il faut un minimum de renseignement pour savoir les sites les plus intéressant à voir et quelques infos du pays et pour les déplacements .
Tout cela dépend de chaque individu il y en a si ils n'ont pas leurs guides en main ils sont perdus, alors que sur place on peut avoir des conseils, des infos avec les gens du pays et souvent les meilleurs plans .
Partout ou je suis aller dans mes voyages de divers pays je préfère me renseigner sur place vis a vis des gens du pays et ensuite je prends ce qui m'intéresse, bien sur je reconnais des fois j'étais déçu mais pas souvent dans l'ensemble et puis j'aime bien d'aller vers les découvertes en cherchant et très souvent j'ai trouver des coins de rêve, mais bon pas de confort des fois pour les hôtels mais pour une nuit ou deux même trois pas de soucis .
A chacun de voir sa façon l'autoroute touristique ou le néant car il est impossible pour un guide de tout préciser si tels hôtel ou guest-house sera là encore après sa parution de son livre le temps de prendre les infos ( parfois sans y avoir été eux mêmes juste des infos de par çi et là ) et mis en vente ils se passent quelques mois et très souvent ça change ( surtout en Asie ça bouge toujours là-bas tu vois quelque chose de bien qui te plaît et six mois après tu reviens ?? envoler c'est plus là !!! ) et aussi bien pour les excursions alors là c'est encore pire j'en parle pas trop long .
Sauf bien sur les gros hôtels de grand nom et la aussi on peut avoir des difficultés de réserver si on passe pas par les TO .
La curiosité et pas avoir de doutes c'est la plus belle aventure de soi même tout en restant logique de ce qu'on veut aussi .
Et puis très souvent on se dit avant de partir je faire ça et voir ça je l'ai vu dans un bouquin ou la télé et souvent sur place on voit aussi d'autres choses et pas fait ce que on avait programmé . Que du bonheur la curiosité 😉
Alors conclusion les guides ok mais faut pas en faire une bible, le VF est là meilleur ressources d'infos presque au jour le jour si l'on peut dire comme ça .
Pour finir un bon plan Michelin ( pour les routes quand mêmes 😉 ) et c'est bon le filling fait le reste .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
C'est bien connu : ce sont ceux qui les dénigrent le plus, qui ont le plus utilisés les guide de voyage à leurs débuts dans un pays. Mais l'avoueront-ils ?...
Mon pauvre Marco, je crois que tu as bien essayé de faire comprendre ce que certains ne comprendront jamais ....😉, "laisses tomber", tout au moins avec des têtes dures .
Bon, ben moi, je vais me coucher !
Amitiés de qui tu sais !
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Je n'avais pas ouvert ce topic car la question me parait toujours saugrenue ( et que ça fini souvent en baston !)
Les gars/filles vous êtes capable de décider tout seul d'aller dans un pays lointain comme la Birmanie.
Vous pouvez sortir ... entre 600 et 900 eurois de billet d'avion. Alors ensuite, chipoter pour un bouquin à 15 euros ... Bôf ...
Achetez les deux, arracher les pages qui vous interessent (car je suis d'accord c'est beaucoup trop lourd et emcombrant ) et faites votre compilation perso selon VOS points d'interet .
En ce qui concerne la discussion globalement pour ou contre les guides ... j'ai suis à 100% avec Marco :
Alors conclusion les guides ok mais faut pas en faire une bible, le VF est là meilleur ressources d'infos presque au jour le jour si l'on peut dire comme ça .
Pour finir un bon plan Michelin ( pour les routes quand mêmes 😉 ) et c'est bon le filling fait le reste .
Hello everyone! I’m heading off solo in February and wanted to share my rough itinerary with you. Does this sound doable?
PS: I’m not really into beaches.
D1 Departure on February 17, 2027
D2 Arrival in Kuala Lumpur – stroll through Chinatown and visit the Petronas Towers
D3: Kuala Lumpur – Chow Kit Market, Batu Caves, Little India, Bukit Bintang downtown area
D4: Early morning bus to Malacca. Explore Malacca in the afternoon and evening
D5: Another 2–3 hours in Malacca in the morning, then bus back to Kuala Lumpur. Merdeka Square area. Stay in Chinatown
D6: Bus trip to Kuala Tahan. Night tour
D7: Morning – canopy walk and Bukit Terisek hike. Afternoon – off to Lata Berkoh
D8 & D9: 2-day jungle trek in Taman Negara National Park
D10: Head to Cameron Highlands
D11: Morning hike through the plantations. Afternoon still to be decided
D12: Morning – excursion to Mossy Forest and Sungei Plantation. Afternoon bus to Ipoh
D13: Morning – Mirror Lake / Sam Poh Temple area. Afternoon – explore downtown Ipoh
D14: Morning train to Penang. Afternoon – wander around Georgetown
D15: Morning – Penang Hill and Keh Loh Temple. Afternoon – Georgetown
D16: Bus to Butterfly Garden and Spice Garden. Late afternoon – Burmese and Thai temples
D17: Morning flight to Singapore. Afternoon – Chinatown and Marina Bay tour
D18: Morning – Gardens by the Bay area. Afternoon – Boat Quay, Clarke Quay, Kampong Glam
D19: Morning – The Ridges area and Botanical Garden. Afternoon – Little India, then back to Chinatown before 11:15 PM return flight
D20: Morning arrival
Has anyone traveled with the Laos travel agency ADV ?
I’m planning a trip to Laos and have received several quotes. Among them, this agency’s seem very reasonable, and so far, the interactions have been positive.
I’ve found a few positive reviews online, but I’d love to hear from travelers who’ve actually booked with them: how’s the organization, guide quality, accommodations, on-the-ground responsiveness, etc.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM).
Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do????
We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc.
Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.
Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else.
Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening.
We’ll be there at the end of October.
Thanks!
Hi,
I wanted to visit the plantations in the morning with GetYourGuide or by just showing up.
How much time should I really plan for?
I’d like to catch either the 3 PM or 5 PM bus back to KL.
Thanks
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search.
I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.