Hello everyone, and especially to the regulars of the MADA forum that I read every day.
This time, I’m asking you not to argue and to try to help me with my problem.
A week ago, I submitted a visa application for France where I was supposed to meet a family who was going to help me with medical exams and host me on a short-stay tourist visa.
My application was put together with the help of my friends over the past two months, and we checked everything multiple times—nothing was missing, and everything was in order.
Last Friday, I picked up a visa refusal from the embassy in Tana with the reason: your intention to leave the territory of the member states before the visa expires could not be established.
Yet, I had handwritten a letter committing to return to my country.
I went to the embassy twice because the first time they couldn’t find my file, and the second time I still wasn’t registered in their computer. After a while, the person came back from another room with my passport and this refusal slip. I’m starting to wonder if my application was even reviewed.
I’m completely desperate, and even though my friends in France have filed an appeal in Nantes, I’m forced to leave Tana because my savings are running out fast. We have very little hope for the appeal in France since there must be hundreds of applications.
So I’m open to any information or advice, but please "HELP ME".
Regarding your visa request, didn’t you mention it was for medical exams?
If so, no surprise it was refused.
If not, the authorities likely felt you didn’t have enough ties (steady, well-paid job, kids, etc.) to Madagascar to ensure you’d return.
That’s usually the main reason visas get denied.
Only solution: strengthen your ties to Mada, typically by landing a good job.
No one here can really help—doubt a French minister reads this forum, so no one has the clout to override immigration services.
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
I think you’ve unfortunately hit the nail on the head with your problem—there are very few people who get approved with this system that has no clear rules.
Some people do know tricks to get the coveted visa, but personally, I don’t, so all you can do now is hope that those people reach out to you.
Keep the faith—you never know. God’s in charge, and unfortunately, humans come after.
Good evening Adeline... and unfortunately, I can't help you because I have no power, just to offer you some comfort after reading your message and to tell you what I would do in such a situation... like they rightly said, "insist on your approach" by clearly explaining the ins and outs, push hard with several people—charm them, demand, threaten by saying your file wasn’t properly examined... in short, insist heavily even if it’s not in your nature 😛. Sometimes, as they say, "moving heaven and earth" can bring good surprises, and you’ve got nothing left to lose. Go to the Alliance Française—sometimes there are people with good connections in the right places or who could help get your file through with favorable elements. Anyway, I’m with you wholeheartedly, and maybe a Guardian Angel will watch over you soon. Keep us posted. Laurence 🙂
I read your message and I’m ""happy"" to tell you we had the same problem as you.
A friend of mine put together her entire file to come study in France, and despite support from the Alliance Française—her application was really well put together and had no issues—her visa was refused, and they didn’t give her any reason. She had financial support, insurance, on-campus housing, and a scholarship.
After appealing to the appropriate authorities, we only got a response when it was too late—it was the end of December, and the school year had started in November. Their answer: NO.
So, we decided to reapply this year and try our luck again, because it really is an adventure...
If you’re under 30 and single = NO
If you’re over 30 with family in France but no job and/or kids (yes, plural) in Madagascar = NO
If you’re traveling for health reasons but don’t have a job or aren’t married with kids in Madagascar = NO
If you have a serious illness and might die on French soil = NO
There are plenty of other reasons for them to say no, but listing them all would take too long—though this gives you an idea.
You should know that the current minister is worse than their predecessor, and the unwritten, unknown rules are extremely strict, making it easy for them to send people back to Madagascar. Around 50 per month, and they don’t talk about it.
If your residence permit is about to expire and you don’t have a job = deportation
If your residence permit is about to expire and you have a temporary job = deportation
If your permit has expired and you haven’t received the new one yet, and you don’t have the receipt with you = deportation
The worst part is that it’s fast—immediate, even. They put you on a plane the same day.
At this point, if nothing else works, we’re thinking of a sham marriage so she can come study. Then we’ll divorce afterward, and she’ll go back... . . ..LOL
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
hi,
yeah, the situation has gotten tougher. This didn’t start with the new leadership.
The French administration doesn’t have to justify a visa refusal for entry into the country. It’s a law that’s over 50 years old. It has to be said that so many abuses have taken place that it’s not surprising to get a systematic refusal.
"Sham marriages" are also one of the reasons for the administration’s intransigence. And for you, it’s a source of trouble you can’t even imagine.
Helping a foreigner enter European territory by any means is punishable by legal action.
If someone has been refused a visa, their identity is recorded in the system, and there’s little chance of being allowed into the country. Each case is painful, but the administration is within its rights.
First of all: I want to clarify, as you can see in my text, that this ending (sham marriage) was just a joke. . .
I did say that we had started another application.
Secondly: Regarding the end of your intervention, I don’t know by what right you’re speaking, because there are things required to get the visa. . . and in the end, even if you have a complete file, all possible and imaginable guarantees, it’s: NO.
I shared the reasons given by the embassies for the refusals, and I didn’t list them all, but. . . meh. . .
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
While everyone can understand your disappointment—even your distress—honestly, no one can really help you here.
It’s actually lucky they gave you a reason, and it’s clear.
You can apply again, justifying with medical certificates the need for exams that aren’t available in Madagascar and proving upfront that you have the means to pay for them.
I know of a case—though it’s not recent—where it worked.
You’re a victim of the abuses and the existence in France of too many associations that defend undocumented immigrants without offering any real solutions for their integration. Plus, a visa for France gives access to the entire Schengen area.
First, it depends on whether it's a man or a woman traveling to France and who they'll be staying with—like an older *vaza* hosting a Malagasy woman. In many cases, the answer is no, but over 50% of applications are approved, and I know people who’ve managed to get that coveted visa to come to France.
But you’ve got to understand France’s perspective: the risk of the visitor not leaving is high, and a French visa lets you travel across all Schengen member states.
hi,
I quote you: "Secondly: Regarding the end of your comment, I don’t know by what right you’re speaking, because there are requirements to get a visa... and in the end, even if you have a complete file, all possible and imaginable guarantees, it’s: NO."
You’re on a public forum, and I’m responding politely. Just because I’m not a "yes-man" doesn’t mean you should get upset. The realities of everyday life can be hard to swallow. But the plethora of "undocumented immigrants" is the reason for stricter laws. And if there weren’t so many fools defending illegal immigrants, everything would be simpler. There are thousands of "undocumented Malagasy" in the country...
To hope to continue your studies in France, you need to be among the top 30/50 in the country... Otherwise, there’s the university in Madagascar.
When Madagascar deports foreigners, the country doesn’t pay for the return ticket! You pay, or you wait at Antanimora until your family pays or the embassy advances the amount, which you or your family must reimburse.
In France, it’s the taxpayer who foots the bill, and the current situation doesn’t allow us to feel sorry for the issue of welcoming illegal immigrants!
I’ll go further—last year, I wanted to bring my recognized daughter and her mom for a 2-month vacation (even though all the required documents for the visa were in order), but we got a flat-out refusal. Their excuse? That we weren’t married, down to the last 2 Ariary.
l'important n'est pas de convaincre, mais de donner à réfléchir
Well, that’s kind of normal as far as your mother’s concerned. As far as the French state is concerned, your mother doesn’t count for you—only marriage or a civil partnership (PACS) has any legal value.
For your daughter, yeah, it’s a shame.
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
I asked about it two weeks ago, and the answer was categorical:
A PACS doesn’t grant any rights regarding residence permits, nationality, visa applications, or family reunification.
The PACS is only for people who have legally entered the country and are in compliance with the law.
Only and exclusively marriage counts in these matters.
Here’s the exact response I received.
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
I have a 28-year-old Malagasy friend who was evacuated to France at the end of 2011 for severe medical issues in his brain. He and his mother easily obtained an indefinite-duration visa given the seriousness of his medical situation. Here’s what they explained:
- The French Consulate in Madagascar likely determined that his illness could be treated in Madagascar and that a medical evacuation to France wouldn’t be necessary. In this case, his application wouldn’t be considered and would be refused.
- A medical evacuation requires a prescription from his treating physician in Madagascar stating that his illness can’t be treated locally and that evacuation to France is necessary for a "life-or-death" situation. Additionally, a medical counter-visit by a French doctor accredited by the French Consulate in Madagascar would need to confirm this. Otherwise, the application wouldn’t be considered and would be refused.
- Malagasy students from extremely wealthy families in Madagascar (like the children of CEOs) who passed the French baccalaureate at the French Lycée in Antananarivo have a 99.9% chance of easily obtaining their visas to continue their university studies in France, even without having family ties there.
- Malagasy students from extremely wealthy families in Madagascar (like the children of CEOs) who followed a typical Malagasy school curriculum also have a 99.9% chance of obtaining their visas to continue their university studies in France, even without having family ties there.
- Average, less affluent Malagasy students with very wealthy family ties in France (earning more than 5,000 € net per month) easily obtain their visas with a 99.9% chance.
Hi there, here's my situation—maybe you can help me out!!!
I went to Madagascar in March 2013 for a 2-month internship at an orphanage. While I was there, I made lots of friends, including a Malagasy guy who became my boyfriend! I went back to Madagascar again in August for a month and a half to be with him. Now, I’d love for him to come to France, but the visa is the big issue here.
I thought maybe it’d be better to apply for a visa with marriage in mind, but I’m scared it’ll get refused!! What do you think? Do you have any solutions to suggest? This long-distance relationship is becoming unbearable, and I don’t want to move to Madagascar. Thanks in advance for your answers and help.
There’s no longer a marriage visa for France. If he comes and you get married, he’ll still be a tourist with his tourist visa for the number of days it was issued, and he’ll have to leave and apply for family reunification later.
The best option is to follow the marriage procedure in Madagascar and bring him over later with full legal compliance, avoiding any reason for visa refusal.
Check out the French Embassy’s website in Madagascar:
Thank you so much for your time and help!
So, if I understand correctly, I need to go back to Madagascar and get married there. Then I come back to France and my husband applies for family reunification—is that right?
However, I’d like him to come to France before we get married so he can see my life here and get to know my country! As a student, do you think it’ll be tough to get a Schengen visa?
See you soon...
knowing a Malagasy who became my boyfriend! I went back to Madagascar again in August for a month and a half to be with him!
I thought it might be better to apply for a visa with a view to marriage
So if I understood correctly, I need to go back to Madagascar and get married there
No offense to anyone, but you want to marry someone you’ve only known for three and a half months??? 🤪 The Malagasy are even more intense than the Senegalese 😄
No offense, but you want to marry someone you’ve only known for 3 and a half months??? 🤪 The Malagasy are even crazier than the Senegalese 😄
Rvgrens,
I think you’ve misunderstood my problem.
I’M NOT ASKING FOR JUDGMENT ON MY SITUATION, BUT RATHER FOR HELP FINDING A SOLUTION!!
And from what I’ve just seen, you’ve got nothing to offer me, so if you don’t mind, go check somewhere else—I’d appreciate it 😉!!!
If you want your boyfriend to see your life in France first, the only solution is for him to apply for a tourist visa.
If it’s refused, marriage is the only remaining option. You’ll need to come to Madagascar. Don’t overlook the six weeks required for publishing the banns, and the preliminary appointment for both of you at the French Consulate General in Antananarivo.
Once the marriage is done, you’ll have to request the transcription to obtain the French family record book (about 3 months).
After that, you’ll need to apply for a visa. You’ll have to prove you have a large enough place to accommodate him and sufficient income to support him.
Once he arrives in France, he’ll have to follow the integration process for foreigners and will receive a one-year visa without a residence permit being issued.
Once the marriage is completed, you’ll need to request the transcription to obtain the French family record book (around 3 months).
Once obtained, it will be up to you to apply for a visa. You’ll need to prove you have housing large enough to accommodate them and sufficient income to support them.
I’ll add a few clarifications:
Housing
Beyond health and equipment standards, the minimum living space required varies by geographic zone, ranging from 22 to 28 m² for a childless household. This threshold increases by 10 m² per additional person (5 m² beyond 8 people).
Money
Income to be justified by the applicant:
2 to 3 people: Average of the minimum wage (Smic) net monthly over the 12 months prior to the application.
The applicant’s income can come from salaried or non-salaried work, asset management, retirement pensions, etc.
The spouse’s income is also taken into account, provided they have income that will continue to be paid once they leave their country.
The following are excluded from the couple’s income:
family benefits
active solidarity income (RSA)
solidarity allowance for the elderly
temporary waiting allowance
specific solidarity allowance
retirement equivalent allowance.
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
Regarding the resources I need to justify: I'm a student and I'm entitled to a scholarship as well as a return-to-work allowance (Pôle Emploi compensation). Do you think that would be enough as proof??
My boyfriend just got his agricultural engineering degree, and we're looking for a thesis director so he can do a PhD in France, but no one wants to take on a foreigner 😕 It's tough...
If you have any other ideas besides marriage, I'm all ears because I JUST WANT TO BE BY HIS SIDE...
Regarding the resources to justify: I’m a student and I’m entitled to a grant as well as a return-to-work allowance (Pôle Emploi compensation). Do you think that might be enough as proof??
My boyfriend just got his agricultural engineering degree, and we’re looking for a thesis director so he can do a PhD in France, but no one wants to take on a foreigner 😕 It’s tough...
If you happen to have any other ideas besides marriage, I’m all ears because I JUST WANT TO BE NEAR HIM...
Best,
Morgane
If I remember correctly, the agricultural engineering degree obtained in Madagascar is recognized in France.
So it should be possible for him to do a PhD in France—the process is the same: he’ll need to go through the French Consulate, and they’ll provide the list of documents required.
Regarding the resources I need to justify: I’m a student and I’m entitled to a grant as well as a return-to-work allowance (unemployment benefits from Pôle Emploi). Do you think that might be enough as proof??
I think the main issue here is that you’re actually committing fraud (unintentionally).
As far as I know, you can’t be on unemployment benefits and have student status at the same time.
And definitely not a grant *plus* ARE (return-to-work allowance). That’s for sure—it’s one or the other.
With that kind of income, I doubt you have enough stable revenue for your application to be approved.
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
I think you're actually committing fraud (unintentionally).
It seems to me that you can't receive unemployment benefits and have student status at the same time. Even less so a scholarship + ARE (return-to-work allowance) 😮
No, you're mistaken because when I apply for my scholarship, I state that I'm receiving unemployment benefits from Pôle Emploi, and it's still accepted!! I have a lot of friends in the same situation, and they receive both too, so I don't think it's a mistake!!
In any case, I have nothing to reproach myself for—I've always declared all my income!!
Your memories are good, but things have changed over the past few years.
There’s an institution near the embassy called CAMPUS FRANCE where you must register to make any requests and search for a program in France.
That’s a good idea because once he’s in France for at least a year, he can use this route to apply for a study grant and also find housing—all without even mentioning you in his applications (which would be better).
And marriage can happen in time.
We also went through this process, and he’s been registered with Campus France since September, but still nothing...
I agree with you—“it’ll be better” and it gives us time to get married whenever we want...
But honestly, with no response from Campus France, we’re starting to lose hope!!!
Anyway, thanks for all the support—it’s great not to feel alone.
This application is extremely complex to complete.
When you start it, there are lots of stages to fill out, and if you miss one, it’s like with the embassy—it’s a fail.
The main thing is sending the printed and signed application to Campus France.
But if they need help finishing it while I’m in Tana, I can lend a hand.
See you soon
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
Good evening,
don’t stress—this answer is the most appropriate: (The best thing is to follow the marriage procedure in Madagascar and then bring him over later with full legal backing and no reason for a visa refusal.)
This isn’t about accommodation... but about bringing your spouse to your side. What could be more important? Later, if you’re looking at family reunification, that’s a different story—your income, apartment, and other factors come into play.
Just so you know, if the agricultural engineering degree is from the Ratsiraka era (eastern country), it’s not worth a clove of garlic, let alone a rabbit’s foot. (The only one recognized worldwide is the "Petrochemistry" degree obtained in Algeria.)
l'important n'est pas de convaincre, mais de donner à réfléchir
No, you're mistaken because when I apply for my grant, I state that I'm receiving unemployment benefits from Pôle Emploi, and it's still accepted!
After that, did you notify Pôle Emploi that you're switching to student status?
Do a Google search. You might be surprised.
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
Regarding the resources to justify: I'm a student and I'm entitled to a grant as well as a return-to-work allowance (unemployment benefits from Pôle Emploi). Do you think that might be enough as justification??
I think the main issue here is that you're committing fraud (unintentionally, I’m sure).
As far as I know, you can't receive unemployment benefits and have student status at the same time.
And even less so a grant + ARE (return-to-work allowance). That’s for sure. It’s either one or the other.
With that kind of income, I doubt you have enough stable revenue for your application to be approved.
I think the main issue here is that you’re committing fraud (unintentionally, I’m sure).
As far as I know, you can’t receive unemployment benefits and have student status at the same time.
And even less so a scholarship *and* ARE (return-to-work allowance). That’s a given—it’s one or the other.
With that kind of income, I doubt you have enough stable revenue for the application to go through.
Come on, you’re exaggerating!!!!!
France is a wealthy country, last I checked.
We can afford this kind of generosity!!!!!
Fraud has practically become a national sport!
And while the French aren’t the only ones doing it, they’re not exactly the worst either.
I don’t mind a student getting some help, but when those benefits become a lifelong income, that’s a different story.
Hello,
I’m not judging you or trying to discourage you.
But if you feel this is the right path, still prepare yourself for long, difficult, and uncertain procedures—and definitely for some really tough moments.
You’ve got to be ready to struggle quite a bit and likely plan at least one more trip to Madagascar.
There have been so many scams—fake marriages, people who didn’t return after their leave, fake documents (so easy to get in Madagascar, and not just there)—that consular agents aren’t exactly compassionate or attentive to every case. They’ve seen and heard so many professions of faith, promises, and "solid" applications that ended in fraud that, unfortunately, even in straightforward cases, they’re extremely meticulous and don’t apply the principle of presumption of honesty. It’s more like a direct presumption of fraud.
In my case, despite having proof of cohabitation (1.5 years living together in Madagascar, 3 years there for me, and my wife being older than me—pretty rare...), with a child, decent income, my wife couldn’t even get a transit visa for France, just for a short stopover when she came to join me in Asia. In the end, we had to make the trip in one go. No stop in Paris.
After that, it took a marriage and then 4 years before naturalization for life to finally get easier. Every time I went back on leave (since I’ve been living in Africa ever since), it meant a massive file and suspicion, even after a dozen Schengen visas.
In short, brace yourself for it not being easy—and especially nearly impossible if you don’t make things a bit official and don’t go back to Madagascar.
It’s up to you to decide if you’re ready for that.
"I'M NOT ASKING FOR MY SITUATION TO BE JUDGED, BUT RATHER FOR HELP FINDING A SOLUTION!!"
The French consulate in Madagascar, representing the French Ministry of the Interior, is obligated to review and assess your situation—as well as your friend’s—so that your friend can obtain a visa to join you in France. This assessment determines whether the visa will be approved or denied.
Your entire life—and your friend’s—will be scrutinized by the consul (who is a police prefect) because a visa for France isn’t granted with a wave of a magic wand just by presenting a marriage certificate (to avoid sham marriages).
The first thing the consulate checks is your personal and professional situations (both yours and your friend’s). The *last* thing they verify is the marriage certificate itself.
The solution I can suggest is to prepare a very strong application, putting your successful personal and professional situations front and center.
Your entire life and that of your friend will be scrutinized by the consul (who is a police prefect)
Let’s not exaggerate—we’re not under the Vichy regime anymore!
All applications submitted to the French administration must be fully completed and accurate, nothing more.
Furthermore, it’s not up to the Consulate to judge the validity of a marriage.
"Let's not exaggerate, we're no longer under the Vichy regime!"
Actually, the consul is exaggerating because their main task is to verify the authenticity of visa applications, even though the applicant's file is fully completed and in order. A meet-up with the consul for an interview feels like a real police investigation.
"It's not up to the Consulate to judge the validity of a marriage."
On the contrary, the consul is obligated to determine whether it's a sham marriage or not.
"Let's not exaggerate, we're no longer under the Vichy regime!"
Actually, the consul is exaggerating because their main task is to verify the authenticity of the visa application files, even though they’re already fully completed by the applicant. A meet-up with the consul for an interview can even feel like a real police investigation.
"It is not up to the Consulate to judge the appropriateness of a marriage."
On the contrary, the consul is obligated to determine whether it’s a sham marriage or not.
I’ve been through this, and it’s nothing like a police investigation. It’s just the application of French law, nothing more.
For sham marriages, you should look toward the Maghreb, not Madagascar.
There’s no connection between a sham marriage (verifying cohabitation) and the appropriateness of the marriage.
The meet-up at the Consulate, prior to marriage, is mainly to check if the future Malagasy spouse speaks French.
Everyone knows that marriage can be followed by a visa application, which is a rightful visa.
Don’t confuse a foreigner who wants to bring their family to France with a French person who wants to bring their spouse.
Don’t try to teach me the ins and outs of French law because you don’t know anything about it. And don’t try to tell me how a French consul works because you don’t know anything about that either.
"Everyone knows that marriage can be followed by a visa application, which is a rightful visa."
Actually, from what I know, many Malagasy people married to French citizens have been denied visas—and even French nationality. Some of them have children together, kids stuck in Madagascar because they lack… a visa.
Don’t try to teach me the ins and outs of French law because you don’t know anything about it. And don’t try to teach me how a French consul works because you don’t know anything about that either.
From what I know, many Malagasy people married to French citizens have been denied visas and even French nationality. Some of them have children together, kids stuck in Madagascar because they don’t have… a visa.
Not only narrow-minded but pretentious too!!!
have been denied visas
Don’t you have a slightly nicer way to phrase that for someone who claims to know everything? 😉😉😉😉
When you’re out of arguments, you attack the person, claiming they know nothing—how petty, really petty.
"Don’t you have a nicer way to put it for someone who claims to know everything?"
Well, actually, I do: some Malagasy friends married to French citizens had the misfortune of not getting their official entry visas for France. They had submitted complete applications—more than complete, even!
Logically and theoretically, they should have gotten the much-desired visa since their files were fully in order, but unfortunately, that’s only true in theory.
Between theory and practice, there’s a huge gap I invite you to dig into to learn more.
But you really dug yourself into a hole here: you seem to know everything about French law, yet you know nothing about the directives the French Ministry of the Interior sends to its consuls regarding visa application procedures.
You’re lecturing me about French law—a subject you don’t even master! What a joke this guy is!
But you dug it all wrong: you seem to know everything about French law, yet you know nothing at all about the directives that the French Ministry of the Interior sends to its consuls regarding visa application procedures.
You’re talking to me about French law, a subject you don’t even master! What a loser this guy is!
When you confuse ministerial directives with French law, you avoid calling others losers.
If you actually knew anything, it would’ve been obvious long ago—you wouldn’t have made a fool of yourself by claiming to know the cost of housing in Antananarivo better than those who live there 😉😉😉😉
I’ll stop here; I’m not going to serve as your punching bag.
"When you confuse ministerial directives with French law,"
Ministerial directive = decree issued by the Council of Ministers and subsequently validated by the President of the Republic to be published in the *Journal Officiel* after approval by the Constitutional Council. Any other questions?
Just a clarification: don’t confuse a directive (which is closer to an instruction or an "internal" note given to ministry department heads) with a decree. A directive can also accompany a decree to explain how it should be applied.
Back to the topic, based on my own experience, I can assure you that a complete and coherent file will help you achieve your goal, but it’s true that you mustn’t give in to discouragement.
Personally, I got married in Madagascar after receiving the *certificat de capacité à mariage* (which involves prior steps like publishing the banns in France and a whole bunch of documents like birth certificates, etc.).
The *certificat de capacité à mariage* is issued after an interview where they ask you questions. From what I felt, these questions are designed to detect sham marriages—or maybe more "gray" ones. They likely compare age gaps, socio-cultural differences, and financial situations in France. If the gaps seem too large, the consulate will be very demanding (nitpicky) about the documents, which probably leads to many people giving up—and I think that’s exactly their goal. I also remember them photocopying all my visas in my passport to check if we really knew each other well... When everything goes smoothly, marriage, transcription, *livret de famille*, family reunification right after, one-year visa...
Our son, recognized by me at birth at the town hall in Tana and also registered at the Consulate, born 4 months before our marriage, was immediately added to the French *livret de famille*.
Regarding my wife’s daughters from her first marriage:
- When we arrived in France, we immediately tried for a student visa with me as their legal guardian and financial guarantor, but the consulate refused (the reason was only given orally: we were bypassing the family reunification process to save time). It wasn’t entirely wrong in spirit since I was indeed married to their mother, but we did meet all the criteria... We didn’t push it and even avoided applying for a short-stay visa for their vacations to avoid "burning bridges"...
- We finally put together the family reunification file in France (after my wife’s legal residency period in France). This file is relatively heavy (OFII, prefecture, home visit, income check, employer verification...) and long (communication between OFII and the prefecture is poor, and documents can get lost). Most of the people we dealt with were more or less condescending and treated us with contempt.
Coincidentally or not, after reaching our breaking point and just after threatening to take legal action (we had neither a refusal nor an approval, just no response), we received a positive answer.
Today, the girls are in France and in school. (We could also talk at length about the obstacle course to get their education level recognized... But it’s done now, and they weren’t held back academically and are doing pretty well!)
It’s a long, *very* long, and extremely discouraging obstacle course... (Especially when you see that some Maghreb countries get ENORMOUS facilitations...)... but not impossible.
In conclusion, there’s no refusal that the administration can’t justify. You can only reproach them for excessive zeal and a lack of consideration and empathy, especially when you feel you’re "in the right"... but well, they receive directives... 😉 to discourage as many people as possible.
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Hi there,
I’m heading to Senegal in January for a month and was wondering if I just need my French driver’s license or if I should get an international permit?
Thanks!
JL
Hi,
I’m bringing Seresta, an anxiolytic (tranquilizer) from the benzodiazepine family,
to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
Thanks a bunch!
I’m heading to Laos next spring, but I have a question about the Thai arrival/departure form. I’ll be flying PAR-BKK, then taking the train to Laos (so exiting Thailand), and later re-entering Thailand by train to catch my return flight. Do I need to fill out two forms in this case?
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
Can I get a TPD (Temporary Admission Document)?
Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
Worst case, I can add my personal name as a co-owner on the registration, but that would be a real shame!
Hi,
I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Seb
Hi there,
I’m a French citizen living in Switzerland, and I set up an RV LLC in Montana, USA. Through that, I was able to register 3 vehicles (an RV, a Jeep, and a Harley) with Montana plates.
I’d like to spend 3 months in Mexico, but it seems complicated—maybe even impossible—to cross the border from the US with all 3 vehicles.
Can anyone give me some advice?
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April.
My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
Bruno.
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident.
I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia.
For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted.
Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month.
I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival?
How long do the formalities take on the spot?
Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay.
If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand,
do I need to submit a new TDAC application?
Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window.
The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days.
2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date.
If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period.
In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th.
The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.